From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #373 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, November 4 2002 Volume 05 : Number 373 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border ["Uri Baran" ] Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border [Andrew Walkingshaw ] [idealcopy] an appeal to composers. [Mike Edwards ] [idealcopy] SY, New Order, etc. ["Jason Rogers" ] Re: [idealcopy] Bo / WIR30 [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Colin's UltraZine Intervista [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] Do Something Magical and Disappear ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] More fun from British Sea Power ["Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border Having just returned from Amsterdam, I can state that it was a pleasure to see posters for that gig everywhere. When was the last time the same could be said about a Wire gig in London? 1980? Uri - -----Original Message----- From: Jan Noorda To: Ideal Copy Date: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:41 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Crossing Border >Noticed Wire is nearly playing with David Thomas on the Crossing Border >Festival next week 09 nov in the Melkweg Amsterdam > >Wire > >is performing on >saturday > >Melkweg The Max >20:15 - 21:15 > >David Thomas > >is performing on >saturday > > >Melkweg Oude zaal >21:30 - 22:15 > >Tonight Music and Paul Virilio on Dutch radio, >Nice Review in Dutch Paper NRC about Suicide latest American Supreme >My latest bought music : Star Switch On (TOUCH) > Fennesz - Field Recordings (TOUCH) > Thomas Koner - Unerforschtes Gebiet (Die >Stad) > > > > > > > >. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:53:30 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:42:20AM -0800, Uri Baran wrote: > Having just returned from Amsterdam, I can state that it was a pleasure to > see > posters for that gig everywhere. When was the last time the same could be > said about a > Wire gig in London? 1980? Wasn't there some postering for the All Tomorrow's Parties gig? - - Andrew - -- "Gertrude Stein says that's enough; But I know that that's not enough now." - - Idlewild, "Roseability" ('100 Broken Windows') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:53:17 -0800 From: "Uri Baran" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border Where? in Wales? ;-) Uri - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Walkingshaw To: idealcopy@smoe.org Date: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border >On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:42:20AM -0800, Uri Baran wrote: >> Having just returned from Amsterdam, I can state that it was a pleasure to >> see >> posters for that gig everywhere. When was the last time the same could be >> said about a >> Wire gig in London? 1980? > >Wasn't there some postering for the All Tomorrow's Parties gig? > >- Andrew > >-- >"Gertrude Stein says that's enough; > But I know that that's not enough now." >- Idlewild, "Roseability" ('100 Broken Windows') > adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:01:43 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: [idealcopy] an appeal to composers. I've got some technical questions about computer recording that I hoped you could help me with. This year I've written two books and I've decided to record them with music and present them as an "Audio book" on the Internet. I record my vocals using "Sound Studio", then import those vocals into an editing program called "Sound Edit", where I edit and add music. "Sound Edit" is a great tool, but when I mix the track using their mixing tool it adds lots of noise and crackles (follow link- http://CFT.tripod.com/ayear.html for an example.) Should I mix the raw tracks using another tool, or should I use a different program for mixing, recording, editing, etc. Is it better to record directly to your hard drive or on an outside source? Also, what is the best way to record vocals? As you can hear on the link my current way leaves my voice flat and nasally. > I use a Mac and I'm hoping to accomplish good sound so I can later > release the recordings on CD if there is enough interest. I also have > an IBM if that is preferable. > Thanks (assuming anyone can help) > Mike Edwards > aka M.Crow, author of "A Year without Sleep" and "Big Scary Jesus." > "It is a rare man who won't tamper with perfection." - Carl Marsh Come see The Mike und Pat reader! http://CFT.tripod.com/mikeundpat.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:03:53 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] SY, New Order, etc. I'd have to say that my favorite Sonic Youth album is Daydream Nation with Sister and Goo being tied for close second. I love "Disappearer" off of the Goo album. EVOL is a classic as well. What do all of you think of the new SY album, Murray Street? I've been listening to it a lot over the past five months or so and am happy with it; the longer tracks remind me of Can - Ege Bamyasi. On the subject of Sigur Ros: I should buy the new Sigor Ros, as I do like Agaetis Byrjun a good bit. There are a couple of albums that I'm more intrigued with at the moment, though. The Camper Van Beethoven box set is due in stores tomorrow...5 cd's for less than $30 and the first three albums are included in their entirity. For New Order Fans here, I've got the tracklisting of New Order - Retro (box set to be released in the U.S. on December 17): DISC 1  MIRANDA SAWYERS SELECTION 'Fine Time' 'Temptation' (1982 version?) 'True Faith' 'The Perfect Kiss' 'Ceremony 'Regret' 'Crystal 'Bizarre Love Triangle' 'Confusion' (1983 version?) 'Round and Round' 'Blue Monday 'Brutal' 'Slow Jam' 'Everyone Everywhere' DISC 2  JOHN McCREADYS SELECTION 'Elegia 'In a Lonely Place 'All Day Long 'Your Silent Face 'Sunrise 'Broken Promise 'Dreams Never End 'Cries and Whispers 'Chosen Time 'Ecstasy 'Sooner Than You Think 'Leave Me Alone 'Lonesome Tonight 'Every Little Counts 'Run Wild DISC 3 - MIKE PICKERINGS SELECTION 'Confusion (Koma & Bones Mix with Bernards new vocal) 'Paradise (Robert Racic Mix) 'Regret (Sabres Slow 'N Low Mix) 'Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone Mix) 'Shell Shock (John Robie Mix) 'Fine Time (Steve 'Silk Hurley Mix) '1963 Arthur Baker Mix 'Touched by the Hand of God (Original Version) 'Everythings Gone Green (Original) 'Blue Monday (Jam & Spoon Manuela Mix) 'World in Motion (Pickering/Parke Mix) 'Here to Stay (Chemical Brothers Remix) 'Crystal (Lee Coombs Remix) DISC 4 - BOBBY GILLESPIE (LIVE TRACKS) 'Ceremony (Studio 54, Barcelona on 7 July 1984) 'Procession (Sunderland 15 August 1984) 'Everythings Gone Green (Tolworth Rec. Centre, Kingston, London 6 Dec 1985) 'In a Lonely Place Glastonbury Festival 20/06/81 'Age of Consent (Spectrum Arena, Warrington 1 March 1986) 'This Time of Night (Fulcrum Centre, Slough 7 Dec 1985) 'The Perfect Kiss (Fulcrum Centre, Slough 7 Dec 1985) 'Fine Time (Hoffman Estates, Chicago 30 June 1989) 'World (Starplex Amphitheatre, Dallas 21 July 1983) 'Regret Reading Festival 31 August 1993) 'As It Is When It Was (Reading Festival 31 August 1993) ALAN WISES INTRODUCTION (Olympia, Paris 12 November 2001) 'Crystal (Big Day Out, Gold Coast 20 January 2002) 'Turn My Way (Olympia, Liverpool 18 July 2001) 'Temptation (Academy, Brixton 10 October 2001) Enjoy. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:19:50 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bo / WIR30 > >>Well, i know Andrew in person, we worked together for a years' time.<< > > So you're Dr Edward Moolenbeek!! > > Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:45 +0100 (CET) From: Bo Krogsgaard Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bo / WIR30 On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > >>Well, i know Andrew in person, we worked together for a years' time.<< > > So you're Dr Edward Moolenbeek!! HAHA! Nice try. Edward is no longer with us. And no, i am not Chris Watson or Zbigniev Karkowsky (sp?) either. Andrew lived in Denmark for four years, we worked with computers together. He actually got me back into Wire. It was quite interesting listening to his stories about how he played a concert with Wire in Vienna without being there. b counting down to the 14th ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:06:57 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bo / WIR30 >>HAHA! Nice try. Edward is no longer with us. And no, i am not Chris Watson or Zbigniev Karkowsky (sp?) either.<< No longer with us indeed. It's OK. We know.... Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:43:22 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] Colin's UltraZine Intervista [INTERVIEW: COLIN NEWMAN / WIRE] Wire is back! Mark three has released two volumes in their "Read & Burn" series by now, and is gigging regularly, e.g. on November 8th at Hof ter Lo in Antwerp, Belgium, as organised by CC Luchtbal. We found Colin Newman kind enough to find some time to answer (pv)'s questions about Wire and about his own solo career, just like Graham Lewis did in [uzine 01.10] (see our links section below. We received Mr. Newman's answers via e-mail on October 30th, 2002. *1* WIRE - - U: For such a young band you've obviously been influenced by Motvrhead ;-). Did you want to make a 'kick ass' record with "Read And Burn" - or what kind of an energy was it that drove you? + CN: Hmm, not sure about Motvrhead. More the energy of the times. "Read & Burn 01" was mainly conceived in 2001 and we were absolutely sure that it should not come out after Summer 2002 at the latest. - - U: You've recently rerecorded "12XU". You've called "12XU" 'the basic Wire rhythm, the father of "Drill"'... Was rerecording it a return to the roots? + CN: It was based on a version recorded at the Garage in 2000. It set the method for how to do Wire mk III recording. You cannot divorce Wire from its times & its culture. It's all about a moment in time and an associated methodology. - - U: Was there any art in starting again? + CN: A great deal. - - U: Was everyone ready to start that third career at roughly the same point in time? Or did someone keep the others waiting, did someone need coaxing? + CN: How Wire works is perhaps not at all obvious from the outside. Suffice to say that this is the most democratic and accountable version of Wire. Again its roots lie in cultural cycles and right timing. Not everyone really conceived it that way at the outset of Mk III but events have proven that there is logic in the thesis. - - U: How come Robert no longer calls himself Gotobed, all of a sudden? + CN: Ask him. - - U: You've been playing live sets. Is the stagelighting still stark white, as in the "Snakedrill" days, or do you use projections or...? + CN: Not at the moment but anything is possible in the right context. - - U: Is there a video for any of the tracks, or is there a video in the making? + CN: There is a video for "In the art of stopping". There are some web versions at http://posteverything.com/news/article.php?id=2745 - - U: That "1" on the sleeve of "Read & Burn" means it's not a one-off, or does it? What are Wire's intentions please? Is it a comeback with a purpose - - is there anything you really want to do? For instance, did you get together again because you love playing live as a band, or because you wanted to make a record, or for any other purpose? + CN: Our site http://posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=2789 will take you to the page for "Read & Burn 02". Re: Why? Because Wire deserves to exist and we as individuals need to prove that 'everything after "Pink Flag" sucks' is crap (which '80's Wire mainly failed to do). [These questions were sent through before "R&B2" was released, but obviously they could not be answered until Wire's American tour was finished - ed.] - - U: At first listen, "Read & Burn" strikes you as a remarkably un-technological record, and quite different from "The First Letter" or "Manscape". Is that perception correct? And if so, was there some sort of technology fatigue to explain for all that? + CN: I personally think the 't' word should be banned from interviews with musicians making contemporary music. The "Read & Burn" series involves a much more intensive use of computers and sequencing that any previous Wire efforts. The software is just better now. - - U: Even while playing more straightforward rock with pretty simple lyrics, Wire doesn't seem to be able to bring hollow words. Was it a hard job getting the lyrics and the songs written, this time around? + CN: It's all about editing. I'm personally no longer interested in obfiscation. The words had become too convoluted. It's like the music. Stripped. - - U: How did "Comet" come about? + CN: Bruce's lyric, my riff. - - U: Might "The art of stopping" and the way it is the first track on the first disc of your new career be a comment on some of those bands who were contemporary to yours and who are now playing the revival circuit? + CN: Like much of the other lyrics, they are deceptively simple. You can get a lot of meanings. One can take it in a more general sense and say that it's (on one level) about editing. We live in a time when we have comparitively limitless options in art made by digital means. But the 'art' is actually in the choosing not in the making. We can make anything but if the art is to be any good we have to reject a lot. - - U: Did you know that the (legendary to some) Mission of Burma decided to reunite upon seing one of your most recent live shows? Were/are you at all aware of the existence of this Bostonian cult band? + CN: I didn't know they re-formed for that reason. I have met them and know they have a great love for Wire. - - U: To me, you're one of the few bands who've reunited and made it worthwhile. Are you aware of any other succesful reunions? + CN: It's hard. I can't think of anyone right now but then I'm sure I sound arrogant by saying it. I think Wire are very lucky; were the conditions different we would have no choice to be anything but irrelevant. - - U: You've been invited to "All Tomorrow's Parties (ATP)" by Steve Albini. How was your initial reaction to that? + CN: Well rather amazingly we headlined the festival. (Well if you call headlining the Saturday on a weekend event 'headlining the event'!) Obviously we were quite flattered! ATP is a great institution. (We played in 2000 as well.) It's definitely the best UK festival. - - U: Who was Albini to you? For instance, how had you liked 'his' cover (i.e. with Big Black) of "Heartbeat"? + CN: I wasn't really a fan of Big Black although I like Steve as a person and I think he gets a great sound on some of his productions (Mclusky & Beachbuggy are examples). - - U: What are the Ex Lion Tamers up to these days? Are they ready to do "The Ideal Copy" yet? + CN: Jim Derogatis is quite a rock writer these days. He's done a couple of books and has a radio show in Chicago. There is no chance of them re-forming. - - U: What with tribute bands covering you and various websites being dedicated to you, I can imagine you've had to deal with all sorts of idolatry by now. Have there been less pleasant instances? + CN: It can be weird but actually a lot of the really big fans are pretty nice and understand that the fact that we are able to sometimes create extraordinary things doesn't make us superhuman as individuals. - - U: In a sense, your Pink Flag record label setup seems to pitch to Wire being a 'cult' band, with special limited releases and the like. What's uh the ploy? And was Mute no longer an option for Wire mk. III? + CN: No ploy, just a fairly good (and realistic) idea of how the industry works. We had no idea if doing it through pinkflag would make any sense. In the end we have succeed better with "R&B 01" than perhaps any other label would have done. Even if someone spent a lot of money (which we didn't), there probably would have been a backlash. People get sick of having stuff shoved down their throats. - - U: I don't suppose you're touring in much the same way as in 1980? Are you able to plan your concerts and your travels according to your own desires now, e.g. by having a journey abroad coincide with the opportunity to visit a country or city? + CN: In our dreams!! The tour of Europe we are about to undertake is in a more comfortable coach than in the past but when it comes down to it, economics dictate. - - U: Has (any member of) Wire ever lived the rock 'n' roll life whilst on tour - even remotely so? + CN: Some (definitely not me) have known their share of excess. - - U: Do you still meet a lot of interesting people on tour? E.g. musicians you'd want to collaborate with, or other kinds of people? Is there a touring anecdote you'd like to share with us? + CN: This all sounds a bit like the Beatles' house (four doors on a street but one house behind it). Unfortunately real life is not like that! Normally the only bands you meet on tour are the support band (usually the same one every day). You just go from one place to the next. Wake up, eat breakfast, travel to point B, soundcheck, eat dinner, play, go back to the hotel. You can do it more comfortably and you can get well paid but in the end it always comes down to the same thing. Tour anecdotes are for tour bores. A lot of it is quite depressing. *2* COLIN NEWMAN SOLO - - U: Mr. Newman, are there still things about Brussels that you miss, or are you perfectly happy in London? + CN: The food. It was a different time. I'm happy in London for now. - - U: Do you still have contact with a lot of people from your Belgian days? E.g. people at or artists on Crammed, dj Morpheus, Sean Bonnar...? + CN: Obviously I live with Malka and have contact with the Minimal Compact people (Fortis & Berry who live in Tel Aviv and Samy who is still in BXL). Haven't seen Sean for a while (he lives in Sicily). [Samy = Samy Birnbach aka dj Morpheus, who compiled the famous "Freezone" series for SSR/Crammed - see our URL section for more details - ed.] - - U: What is the current status of the Swim~ label? And of your solo career? + CN: Surviving. It's a technical point but pinkflag couldn't really exist without swim. It uses its facilities (including studio). Wire took up a lot of my time recently but we always have plans to advance swim. There is a new 7" by a new band called Rhodes getting some UK attention. [See also our URL section - ed.] - - U: Are there any instruments you'd wish you'd master? Which are the instruments you love to work on the most, e.g. for songwriting? + CN: My main instrument is my Macintosh G4. I do production rather than songwriting. - - U: What is your current setup? Are there any instruments that you've sold over the years but that you wish you'd kept? + CN: G4, running Digidesign Pro Tools through 001. I get eighteen outputs to my Allen & Heath board. Lots of plug-ins. Hard disks full of various forms of audio. Otherwise some guitars, a couple of MS10s and an old Casio synth. I don't sell equipment. Even though I have two samplers I never use any more. There's no point in selling them. - - U: On Lo records, there's this album by Cursor Miner ("Explosive Piece Of Mind"), and at times, his singing sounds remarkably close to yours... Have you heard his album, by any chance? Which are some of your favourite contemporary artists please? + CN: I have the Cursor Miner cd but didn't get a chance to listen to it. Posteverything (of which I'm the MD) do mail order for Lo and I've known Jon Tye for years. My favourite band of the last year are Liars. You might like to check Pitchforkmedia.com for some desert island favourites etc. [The URL is listed below, as are many other links - ed.] - - U: Thank you very much for your answers and for your time! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:00:17 +0100 From: "Jan Noorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border Indeed, it will be webcast. I did ask the organisation and they confirmed. They gave this adres www.3voor12.nl > >>Noticed Wire is nearly playing with David Thomas on the Crossing Border > Festival next week 09 nov in the Melkweg Amsterdam > > Wire > > is performing on > saturday > > Melkweg The Max > 20:15 - 21:15 > > David Thomas > > is performing on > saturday > > > Melkweg Oude zaal > 21:30 - 22:15<< > > And it looks like it will be webcast here.... > > http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/events/default/index.shtml?2534202+8683106 > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:15:54 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Do Something Magical and Disappear This weekend I've been even more punk rock than usual, hawking up nearly solid loogies and gobs, generally choking myself half to death and feeling perfect just for spit! Not content with almost trampling a friend o' mine with one of their beasts of justice, very necessary helicopter spies were spraying government flu all over those assembled in PROTEST at the four eyed BushBlairBeast666 and its latest bid to have the working class go die for oil. It was either that a dodgy old sandwich from the 24 hr shiteshop. I've heard Bush and Blair have been massing so called Weapons of MASS destruction. Surely its time to send in the army and topple these despots in case they use them? (Yes Sir, No Sir) But the ideal soundtrack to being out of your mind on govt sponsored death virus and breathing like Darth Vader is the second track on the new Liars EP 'Fins to Make Us More Fish Like'. Angus sounds way more unhinged on the two new tracks, and there are some great ratchety rhythmnoises firing off. Last track is the one where bassist Pat Nature picks up a two tone kids siren and dances about. I'd say these two songs, Loose Nuts & Dust Makes That Mud were their liveset highlights, and this EP burns wirth a similar intensity to their stage action, which the album didn't quite capture. I was also healed by the drones of Vibracathedral Orchestra last night, even though Neil Campbell was back in Leeds looking after his newborn baby, the other four pulled off an instrument swapping noise of loveliness that vibrated my chest and made me feel the best I had since Fugazi locked down last week. Lord Mongo (Hawkwind with cardboard comedy) and Jackie O Motherfucker (weird American semi-improv rock deconstructers who also display resolute droning tendencies) were also witnessed and enjoyed, and Tmesis is hands down the best venue there has ever been in Manchester. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine Evolution or Revolution? The Music or The Message? Richard H. Kirk: "Both. Evolution in terms of technology. Revolution in music, sound and politics. It's not too late to see some heads on poles." Monday Afternoon Wipeout: Information - Biomekano Rhodes - War Day WIRE - Read & Burn 02 The Fall - Backdrop WIRE - Read & Burn 01 Distorted Pony - Punishment Room Liars - Fins to Make Us More Fish Like Enon - High Society Cabaret Voltaire - Yashar Matmos - California Rhinoplasty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:08 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] erasure news thought i'd pass this along ....i'm sure to the bemusement, astonishment, joy, annoyance, indifference of many Ideal Copyists....why? the better question is: why not? << *** Erasure - Solsbury Hill *** *** Released UK: 7th January 2003 *** Vince Clarke and Andy Bell, one of the most successful and original pop duos of all time, return with a brand new Erasure single, 'Solsbury Hill', on the 6th of January 2003. 'Solsbury Hill', a version of the Peter Gabriel classic, is the first single to be lifted from their new album, "Other People's Songs", the follow-up to 20001s acclaimed "Loveboat". Released on 2 CDs and DVD and available for *one week only*, the single was recorded with Gareth Jones, also known for his work with Depeche Mode. CD1 features the album version of OESolsbury Hill' mixed by Dave Bascombe and two exclusive new Erasure-penned tracks, OETell It To Me1 and OESearching1, while CD2 features OESolsbury Hill1 mixed by Gareth Jones and Manhattan Clique together with an exclusive version of OEAve Maria1. The DVD single features Kylie Minogue producer Mike Spencer1s mix of 'Solsbury Hill1, a cover of the Buggles hit, OEVideo Killed The Radio Star1 mixed by Gareth Jones, plus 'Dr Jeckyll and Mistress Hyde', a short DVD film directed by Vince Clarke and starring Andy Bell as a homicidal transvestite. Tracklisting: CD1: Solsbury Hill - Dave Bascombe mix Tell It To Me Searching CD2: Solsbury Hill - 37B Mix Solsbury Hill - Manhattan Clique Extended remix Ave Maria DVD: Solsbury Hill - Radio Mix Video Killed The Radio Star - 37B Mix Short film - Dr Jeckyll and Mistress Hyde If you're in the UK, you may like to pre-order the singles from your local record shop to be sure of getting a copy on the day of release and to help Erasure secure a high chart placing. If you're not in the UK, you may like to ask someone in the UK to pre-order the singles for you, to make sure you don't miss out on this exciting release. Return-Path: Received: from rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (rly-xh03.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.232]) by air-xh05.mail.aol.com (v89.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXH52-1104133828; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:38:28 -0500 Received: from web14207.mail.yahoo.com (web14207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.71]) by rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (v89.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH32-1104133807; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <20021104183125.34527.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.66.39.1] by web14207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:31:25 PST Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: rob levy Subject: erasure news To: RLynn9@aol.com In-Reply-To: <13.14608a36.2af80877@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hiya, *** Erasure - Solsbury Hill *** *** Released UK: 7th January 2003 *** Vince Clarke and Andy Bell, one of the most successful and original pop duos of all time, return with a brand new Erasure single, 'Solsbury Hill', on the 6th of January 2003. 'Solsbury Hill', a version of the Peter Gabriel classic, is the first single to be lifted from their new album, "Other People's Songs", the follow-up to 20001s acclaimed "Loveboat". Released on 2 CDs and DVD and available for *one week only*, the single was recorded with Gareth Jones, also known for his work with Depeche Mode. CD1 features the album version of OESolsbury Hill' mixed by Dave Bascombe and two exclusive new Erasure-penned tracks, OETell It To Me1 and OESearching1, while CD2 features OESolsbury Hill1 mixed by Gareth Jones and Manhattan Clique together with an exclusive version of OEAve Maria1. The DVD single features Kylie Minogue producer Mike Spencer1s mix of 'Solsbury Hill1, a cover of the Buggles hit, OEVideo Killed The Radio Star1 mixed by Gareth Jones, plus 'Dr Jeckyll and Mistress Hyde', a short DVD film directed by Vince Clarke and starring Andy Bell as a homicidal transvestite. Tracklisting: CD1: Solsbury Hill - Dave Bascombe mix Tell It To Me Searching CD2: Solsbury Hill - 37B Mix Solsbury Hill - Manhattan Clique Extended remix Ave Maria DVD: Solsbury Hill - Radio Mix Video Killed The Radio Star - 37B Mix Short film - Dr Jeckyll and Mistress Hyde If you're in the UK, you may like to pre-order the singles from your local record shop to be sure of getting a copy on the day of release and to help Erasure secure a high chart placing. If you're not in the UK, you may like to ask someone in the UK to pre-order the singles for you, to make sure you don't miss out on this exciting release. *** Website update *** HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:40:22 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Sonic Youth (recommendations) >Incidentally, and this is a blatant thread hijack, I have Daydream Nation >by Sonic Youth and want more. Which albums to get? > >Any advice, people? I suspect SY will be quite big with a lot of people >round here. > >- - Andrew Rather than just list my favorite Sonic Youth albums, I'll say that if you particularly love Daydream (umm ... which IS my favorite), Washing Machine, 1000 Leaves, and Murray Street share the hypnotic quality of that album. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:51:14 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Sonik Yoof Reks >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > >interesting only mark mentioned "murray st" , I've now chimmed in--being a digest person who rarely checks his email on the weekends, I'm often late. :) about 4 months ago it was >reviewed like it was the greatest album of recent years. i bought it on the >strength of those reviews and was really disappointed , just seemed like >another sonic youth album not so different to the other ones. and yes i know >jim o'rourke is still flavour of the month , but it didn't seen THAT >different to previous albums that passed by with a fraction of the acclaim. >so what do all you SY fans think of MS after living with it for a few months? Well, first, that's why I'm careful w/ recommendations. Anyway, sorry. That said, I think it easily the best rock album of the year so far, and probably their best since Daydream, which is saying (from me, anyway) a great deal. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:57:03 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] More fun from British Sea Power BSP's newsletter #7 arrives. Highlights follow: The first night found British Sea Power playing a one-off show in Liverpool with hygienic and well-pressed New Yorkers Interpol. Marvellous, thought the people. Two Joy Divisions for seven pounds only. Most reasonable. The next day, e-mails poured in, offering congratulation and enquiry. Perhaps the most pleasing came from one Mark Spry. Wondering about the sound effects and recordings that the band play as part of the show, he asked. "Who sang Oft In The Stilly Night on the sample? Of old tenors that I recall, it sounded most like Gervase Elwes or Walter Widdop?" This is the stuff. One can only hazard a guess as to whether, say, The Vines are subject to this quality of inquisition from their audience. And a lot more. I suspect if you're not British much of it is unintelligible, but it's one of the best written and funniest music posts I receive (only Chemikal Underground comes close). another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:59:04 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] Ghost Rider Motorcycle Heroes Went to the Mean Fiddler in London last night for the absurdly good value (12 quid!) Sonic Mook evening. Arrived in time for Tokyo Windbag, two blokes dressed like the guy from Campag Velocet and Badly Drawn Boy laying down effective beats and displaying a devotion to smoking not seen on stage since the Breeders. They were followed by The Martini Henry Rifles - my second time in a month and another high-energy performance - at least one of them seems to have fallen over at any one time. Highly enjoyable as spectacle, although one hardly comes away whistling tunes. Radioactive Man followed - another bloke with a hat behind the same technology as Tokyo Windbag used. I found the groove more elusive this time. Then The Liars. Being lukewarm about the album, I was well impressed by this. The singer (Angus - thanks to Bill for the info in his recent post) is mesmerising, reminiscent of early Nick Cave in stature and his movement on stage. He points a lot, like an accusing preacher, as the rest of the band go hell for leather. I'll look up the ep if it reproduces this. The reborn Suicide headlined, on the back of their fine new album. In a way little has changed. Rev even seems to be wearing the same shades as 25 years ago. They play Ghost Rider and Cherie. But the sound is beefed up compared to the past (Wirelike) and Vega seems to have dropped the intonations that made them so easy to imitate. It's a powerhouse performance and very funny. Vega starts wisecracking from the off as they lose power (requiring Rev to lift his shades for a look). He's dressed in a hooded waistcoat over a shiny shirt and wanders about the stage with puffed chest, shades never removed. He's lost a lot of weight compared to when I last saw them in the mid-80s. Rev is thin, accentuated by a skinny black ribbed jumper. He hammers away at his kit and between songs goes on walkabout around the stage staring (myopically?) at the audience. There's an air of camp about the whole performance. Great fun and the connection wi th Wire - a band reborn with great new material and muscular sound - is evident. And talking of whom - no other than B C Gilbert is in the audience, arriving for the Liars. What with this and his appearance at the Sigur Ros / Coil gig I feel entwined. I take this opportunity to have a quick word. He's fired up for Brighton and Europe, clearly revelling in Wire as they are now. And a side mention of playing the South Bank next year! I don't enquire further, not least because it's clear that details are sketchy. But that's something to look forward to. another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:00:21 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... Never having heard of it "Screaming Fields of Sonic Love"must be a 'greatest hits' - what a crap title. Hope you're immersed in ( ). another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Walkingshaw . Is "Screaming Fields of Sonic Love" > some kind of greatest-hits deal? That and Evol was the only cheap SY > in Fopp: I chickened out and bought the new Sigur Ros album (having bought > Svefn-G-Englar and Agaetis Byrjun on release) instead... > > - Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:00:39 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... I think the first three tracks on Murray St are right up there. Their best album since Dirty IMO. another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury > That's my fave SY period too. Daydream Nation, Goo & Dirty I suppose, though > I suppose that's a lot to do with when I got into them - DN was my 1st SY > album. Had I have got into them earlier, then the earlier ones might be my > faves. (As is sometimes the case with bands, if you didn't hear the earlier > albums at the time, they can sound less enthralling - particularly as I like > the more powerful sound they went for in the early 90's). > > I haven't played Murray Street lately, but I liked it a lot. I thought it > was their most consistent album in a while, even if it maybe lacked an > absolute killer track. (Disconnection Notice is probably my fave on it) > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: WILCO Webcast Live from St. Louis this Saturday No idea what time the webcast is,i have sent an email of enquirie,shall let you know if i hear,though it's usually quite late at night.Ari To: "Ari Britt" Subject: Fw: WILCO Live from St. Louis this Saturday Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:33:44 -0500 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilco World Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 4:08 PMSubject: WILCO Live from St. Louis this Saturday As the last tour of the year winds down, we'd like to thank you for all of your support -- it's been Wilco's best year ever. In keeping with that theme, we're going to do another live webcast of the band's next to last show of the year, this Saturday from the Pageant in St. Louis. It will again be streamed in MPEG4/AAC Audio, which you will need Quicktime 6 to listen to (QuickTime6 is a free download available at http://click.topica.com/maaaCDVaaUgoAa4WwQvb/ The webcast will be audio only but it should work and sound great even on a 56k dial-up. We'd like to thank our friends on the QuickTime team for helping make these webcasts possible. In other news: the highly anticipated double vinyl of "YHF" is finally available via wilcoworld as well as at better record stores everywhere. It was direct metal mastered at Abbey Road Studios in London, pressed on high quality 180 gram vinyl, and packaged in a beautiful full-color gatefold sleeve and dedicated inner-sleeves with lyrics. After a nice, long break for the holidays, the band will be off to New Zealand and Australia in early January for the Big Day Out Festival as well as some additional dates to be announced late including, we hope, a gig in Tokyo in February. In the meantime, have a great and safe holiday season. And, attention Americans: please don't forget to vote tomorrow (Tuesday November 5). Can you imagine what a different place this would be if young people got out in anything like the numbers of their elders? Groovy times and we'll see you next year, Wilco HQ ==================================================================== Update your profile here: http://topica.email-publisher.com/survey/?a2i07D.a4WwQv.YWxhaXNo Unsubscribe here: http://topica.email-publisher.com/survey/?a2i07D.a4WwQv.YWxhaXNo.u Delivered by Topica Email Publisher, http://topica.email-publisher.com/ HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:22:58 -0600 (CST) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] Wire live CD There's a CD listed on eBay "Wire live at the Metro / Chicago 10th May 2000". Anybody have this / comments other than eBay's listing? voyteck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:41:42 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire live CD > >>There's a CD listed on eBay "Wire live at the Metro / Chicago 10th May > 2000". Anybody have this / comments other than eBay's listing? << It's a CDR, possibly a burn from the streaming a/v of that concert that you can find on the net. If you have a broadband connection you can make your own copy ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:15:19 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: WILCO Webcast Live from St. Louis this Saturday In a message dated 11/4/02 5:54:44 PM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: > No idea what time the webcast is,i have sent an email of enquirie,shall let > you know if i hear,though it's usually quite late at night.Ari > i just got free tickets to this show! the venue is 1 block from my home....let me know if anybody gets a good copy of the show... Robert ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #373 *******************************