From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #372 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, November 4 2002 Volume 05 : Number 372 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border [MarkBursa@aol.com] OT - <<, >>, and > Re: [idealcopy] technical question [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Rhodes "War Day/The New" Swim 7" review [Rain19c@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: Wire Tapper 09 [Rain19c@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... ["Stephen Graziano" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... [Andrew Walkingshaw ] [idealcopy] Jan/Bart:Re Crossing Border [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire Track I.D. Please [World Domination Industries ] [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... [Bart van Damme ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:33:48 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... I too think you would like Dirty, Andrew, which is probably my favourite SY album to listen to, although I'd rate EVOL higher if you know what I mean. Sister is great too. Sod it, I'd get everything bar Experimental Jet Set. Some of them might still be a fiver in Fopp if you hurry (think there's an outlet in Cambridge isn't there?). another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bart van Damme To: wire-news Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > Andrew: > >> Incidentally, and this is a blatant thread hijack, I have Daydream Nation > >> by Sonic Youth and want more. Which albums to get? > >> Any advice, people? I suspect SY will be quite big with a lot of people > >> round here. > > Ian: > > 'Sister' and 'Bad Moon Rising' at the very least... > > Paul: > > i woulda gone for evol first, and then the two above :o) > > > Very good 3 indeed [especially Sister, wich is my fave], but if I'm correct > about your taste Andrew, I think you might like Dirty a lot too. > > Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:03:20 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent playlist Roadrunner is a song I constantly return to - both slow and fast versions - and it makes me happy whenever I hear it. An utter masterpiece. As, I suspect, is Sigur Ros' new album ( ). Despite the clamour of about a dozen new CDs waiting to get in my player, I can't dislodge ( ). It's over 70 minutes and is bucking my '20 minutes is all I listen to these days' theory. I'm just stopping everything to sit down and bask in it. It's in the same vein as Agaetis Byrjun - long songs sounding like glaciers moving, while Jonsi sings beautifully in made-up Icelandic over the top. But the instrumental palate seems wider this time, especially in the second half (there's a distinct 30 second gap between tracks 4 & 5) which is much darker in tone - drums dominate on some tracks and the songs deal more in crescendos. It's just utterly beautiful, transporting music, brilliantly produced. Along with R&B the best music I've heard all year, although they're coming from different ends of the rock spectrum . My main concern is how they handle the marketing. Advertisers will be desperate to get their hands on chunks of this and Sigur Ros are already creeping into documentaries and sports clips. Track 4 (njssnavilin ) has already been used over the closing credits to Vanilla Sky. I don't want this music out there in marketing land. It's mine, I tell you, mine! another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury > Recent Playlist: > > ROADRUNNER - Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers > Raw. Basic. Relentless. Essential. > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:13:30 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:33:48AM -0000, Keith Knight wrote: > I too think you would like Dirty, Andrew, which is probably my favourite SY > album to listen to, although I'd rate EVOL higher if you know what I mean. > Sister is great too. Sod it, I'd get everything bar Experimental Jet Set. > Some of them might still be a fiver in Fopp if you hurry (think there's an > outlet in Cambridge isn't there?). > Yep: that's where I got "Daydream Nation" (I've been listening to Eliminator Jr. from the Trilogy on loop while I reply to these emails....) I'll go have a look later. - - Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:06:02 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > Ian: > > 'Sister' and 'Bad Moon Rising' at the very least... > > Paul: > > i woulda gone for evol first, and then the two above :o) > > > Very good 3 indeed [especially Sister, wich is my fave], but if I'm correct > about your taste Andrew, I think you might like Dirty a lot too. > > Bart No-one mentioned Goo yet? Follow-up to Daydream Nation (but more commercial) and the one before Dirty IIRC. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:14:55 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? - ----- Original Message ----- > >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse > With Wound's output is instrumental Then in response From: Bill Hick No it's not. Then me... Anybody know anything about the words to NWW's The Strange Play of The Mouth. For instance, what language? If a language, what's the translation? Ian B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 04:40:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] technical question the 'reply all 'button usually kicks in when you have more than one email address on THE PARTICULAR EMAIL YOU ARE VIEWING,does not apply to 'other' mail in your mailbox. answer your question? did you re-do the Zorn? if not why not? later.Ari RLynn9@aol.com wrote:i am not much of a computer person...could anyone please tell me why i can't hit the reply all button to send replies to IC ? i can only hit the reply button to individuals... RL HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:59:33 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > No-one mentioned Goo yet? Follow-up to Daydream Nation (but more commercial) terrific album! hard to find an album of theirs that isn't... > Sod it, I'd get everything bar Experimental Jet Set. ...and even that one I like enormously [Starfield Road being one of my fave Jesus & Ma... er... Sonic Youth songs]. perhaps only Made in USA i found a bit disappointing. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:28:14 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > Anybody know anything about the words to NWW's The Strange Play of The > Mouth. For instance, what language? If a language, what's the translation? > Ian B http://www.brainwashed.com/nww/news.html From the World Serpent web site: "'Automating Volume 2' is the second volume of compilation tracks of Nurse With Wound, compiled between the years 1981-1985. It contains some of the best and most adventurous NWW music of the period. Highlights are the multi-dimensional 'Strange Play of the Mouth' and the Adolf Wolfi interpretations taken from the legendary outsider music project by Graeme Revell. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:42:36 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > >Any advice, people? I suspect SY will be quite big with a lot of people > >round here. > > 'Sister' and 'Bad Moon Rising' at the very least...<< And the new one, Murray Street. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 15:46:07 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... Me : > > > 'Sister' and 'Bad Moon Rising' at the very least... > > > > Paul: > > > i woulda gone for evol first, and then the two above :o) i was hurrying at the time...i'd actually prefer 'Evol' over 'Bad Moon Rising'...!!! 'Sister' is still my personal fave SY LP though... KeithA... >No-one mentioned Goo yet? 'Goo' too... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:47:00 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] technical question > >>i am not much of a computer person...could anyone please tell me why i > can't > hit the reply all button to send replies to IC ? i can only hit the reply > button to individuals...<< It's because of the HTML format that AOL 7.0 uses as a default for email. There doesn't seem to be a way of disabling it. It's irritating, but only takes 2 clics to add a cc to idealcopy@smoe.org. Alternatively use an older AOL version. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:01:07 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] technical question On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:47:00AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > >>i am not much of a computer person...could anyone please tell me why i > > can't > > hit the reply all button to send replies to IC ? i can only hit the reply > > button to individuals...<< > > It's because of the HTML format that AOL 7.0 uses as a default for email. > There doesn't seem to be a way of disabling it. It's irritating, but only > takes 2 clics to add a cc to idealcopy@smoe.org. > > Alternatively use an older AOL version. One thing which bugs me about AOL, and this isn't a knock at AOL users to emphasise (I think we're all above that here :) ), is the insistence of the software at using >> chevrons << for quotes. (HTML email is of course far, far more evil: I read mail in a text-only client via SSH, mutt for those who care and can't be bothered to read the headers of my mail, and it really doesn't do much for me to get a bunch of HTML source spooged into my terminal.) The conventional quoting style is as reproduced above: "> ". This, I find, is much easier to read than the AOL style: but the bigger bugbear (and it's mainly Outhouse Express which gets this wrong) is the flouting of the convention "reply follows quote". If for some reason mails are arriving out of order (rare but not unknown), or someone is replying to a thread which has been dormant for a bit, I find it much preferable to be able to read the context for the mail before I read the reply to it: it preserves the order of the conversation, in some sense. Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox now. This isn't a moan at anyone on the list, by the way: on Usenet, people would be attempting to murder each other by now... :) - - Andrew - -- "And I'm too tired to care about this; Can't you see this in my face, my face?" - - Blur, "Coping" ('Modern Life is Rubbish') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:37:57 +0100 From: "Jan Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Crossing Border Noticed Wire is nearly playing with David Thomas on the Crossing Border Festival next week 09 nov in the Melkweg Amsterdam Wire is performing on saturday Melkweg The Max 20:15 - 21:15 David Thomas is performing on saturday Melkweg Oude zaal 21:30 - 22:15 Tonight Music and Paul Virilio on Dutch radio, Nice Review in Dutch Paper NRC about Suicide latest American Supreme My latest bought music : Star Switch On (TOUCH) Fennesz - Field Recordings (TOUCH) Thomas Koner - Unerforschtes Gebiet (Die Stad) . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:50:51 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border >>Noticed Wire is nearly playing with David Thomas on the Crossing Border Festival next week 09 nov in the Melkweg Amsterdam Wire is performing on saturday Melkweg The Max 20:15 - 21:15 David Thomas is performing on saturday Melkweg Oude zaal 21:30 - 22:15<< And it looks like it will be webcast here.... http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/events/default/index.shtml?2534202+8683106 Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:36:49 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: OT - <<, >>, and > Re: [idealcopy] technical question aol actually uses the chevrons by default, but you can set your own preferences, such as using internet style quoting. - -paul (no misquoted wire lyric today) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:44:59 EST From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Rhodes "War Day/The New" Swim 7" review Well, I've got the new Rhodes single from Swim and it's disappointing. Besides the familiar thick/proccessed guitar sound that reminds of Silo and R& B, there isn't much to distinguish Rhodes from the current wave of bands reviving garage rock and post punk. Let's hope in the future they exploit the "punk band trapped in a computer" proccess a bit more. And come up with something more original. ~Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:41 EST From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire Tapper 09 Bill Hick: 4. Supersilent - C-4.1 An exclusive from the Norwegian group who I'm calling The Future of Jazz, and you can quote me on that Mr Coldbrain! - ----------------------------------------------- I'm quite enthralled by this track, I think I'll have to pick up one of their cds...any recommendations? ~Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:21 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... maybe even "at most" sg ps - caught Stars of the Lid live last night in Charlottesville. tres cool. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian.s. jackson" To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > Andrew W... > >Incidentally, and this is a blatant thread hijack, I have Daydream Nation > >by Sonic Youth and want more. Which albums to get? > > > >Any advice, people? I suspect SY will be quite big with a lot of people > >round here. > > 'Sister' and 'Bad Moon Rising' at the very least... > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:09 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Wire Tapper 09 suspect it was the rush to get hold of the free cd's but sadly i failed to get hold of this , worcestershire newsagents ain't too big on esoteric music mags. must try harder next time.p (and later was pretty poor wasn't it.......) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:57:56 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > ..perhaps only Made in USA i found a bit disappointing. > > Bart What's Made in the USA? don't know that one. (Bet Andrew's sorry he started this thread now) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:13:05 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Classic albums > That Classic Albums programme was surprisingly good. I watched it thinking I > had nothing to learn but it was pleasingly erudite. My favourite moment was > the Bollocks sound engineer showing how the mix worked. My fave bit was when Steve Jones admitted he regretted getting rid of Matlock. Went something like... "So he used to wash his feet? That was him". Keith NP King Tubby compilation... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:46:10 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... interesting only mark mentioned "murray st" , about 4 months ago it was reviewed like it was the greatest album of recent years. i bought it on the strength of those reviews and was really disappointed , just seemed like another sonic youth album not so different to the other ones. and yes i know jim o'rourke is still flavour of the month , but it didn't seen THAT different to previous albums that passed by with a fraction of the acclaim. so what do all you SY fans think of MS after living with it for a few months? must say i liked the late 80's / early 90's albums but lost interest after that. not that they're ever bad , just i was looking for something different. p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] technical question Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:47:00AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > >>i am not much of a computer person...could anyone please tell me why i > > can't > > hit the reply all button to send replies to IC ? i can only hit the reply > > button to individuals...<< > > It's because of the HTML format that AOL 7.0 uses as a default for email. > There doesn't seem to be a way of disabling it. It's irritating, but only > takes 2 clics to add a cc to idealcopy@smoe.org. > > Alternatively use an older AOL version. One thing which bugs me about AOL, and this isn't a knock at AOL users to emphasise (I think we're all above that here :) ), is the insistence of the software at using >> chevrons << for quotes. (HTML email is of course far, far more evil: I read mail in a text-only client via SSH, mutt for those who care and can't be bothered to read the headers of my mail, and it really doesn't do much for me to get a bunch of HTML source spooged into my terminal.) The conventional quoting style is as reproduced above: "> ". This, I find, is much easier to read than the AOL style: but the bigger bugbear (and it's mainly Outhouse Express which gets this wrong) is the flouting of the convention "reply follows quote". If for some reason mails are arriving out of order (rare but not unknown), or someone is replying to a thread which has been dormant for a bit, I find it much preferable to be able to read the context for the mail before I read the reply to it: it preserves the order of the conversation, in some sense. Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox now. This isn't a moan at anyone on the list, by the way: on Usenet, people would be attempting to murder each other by now... :) - - Andrew can I watch?Ari - -- "And I'm too tired to care about this; Can't you see this in my face, my face?" - - Blur, "Coping" ('Modern Life is Rubbish') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 22:04:54 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:57:56PM -0000, Keith Astbury wrote: > > ..perhaps only Made in USA i found a bit disappointing. > > > > Bart > > What's Made in the USA? don't know that one. > > (Bet Andrew's sorry he started this thread now) At least it's a thread about music. Is "Screaming Fields of Sonic Love" some kind of greatest-hits deal? That and Evol was the only cheap SY in Fopp: I chickened out and bought the new Sigur Ros album (having bought Svefn-G-Englar and Agaetis Byrjun on release) instead... - - Andrew - -- "Burn down the disco, hang the blessed DJ, because the music that they constantly play says nothing to me about my life" - Smiths, "Panic" (single) adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:06:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... Keith Astbury wrote: > ..perhaps only Made in USA i found a bit disappointing. > > Bart What's Made in the USA? don't know that one. (Bet Andrew's sorry he started this thread now) Keith 'specially now you've chipped in your two cents worth (or pennies in your case) Ari HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:23:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Jan/Bart:Re Crossing Border Could one of you let me know what time this all starts,and whether Wire are going to be webcast also,and is Amsterdam an hour ahead of London?or the same as.......Ari MarkBursa@aol.com wrote:From: MarkBursa@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:50:51 EST Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Crossing Border To: janj.noorda@tiscali.nl CC: idealcopy@smoe.org >>Noticed Wire is nearly playing with David Thomas on the Crossing Border Festival next week 09 nov in the Melkweg Amsterdam Wire is performing on saturday Melkweg The Max 20:15 - 21:15 David Thomas is performing on saturday Melkweg Oude zaal 21:30 - 22:15<< And it looks like it will be webcast here.... http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/events/default/index.shtml?2534202+8683106 Mark HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:51:08 -0800 (PST) From: World Domination Industries Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Track I.D. Please you're about 12 years old right now and i never said those exact words, good warp of the facts. post the headers, whatever, you're still 12. troll on, son. - --- Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > so now the truth comes out (and i mean the paragraph > below the first line). > this is how he replies to me off list: > > In a message dated 11/2/02 10:43:42 PM, > djnana2000@yahoo.com writes: > > >sorry i'm not an ignorant fucking dolt, like you. > > > >i'd rather actually look on kazaalite to get my > music > >for free, that's why i asked the name of the track. > i > >am not an uber hardcore wire fan and i think the > >general public probably isn't either. god forbid me > >trying to ASK about a song i might actually learn > >something. > > like i said, you can get the whole album used (if > you don't care about > supporting an artist that the general public doesn't > like anyway) for about 8 > bucks. -paul c.d. Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:50:05 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... > must say i liked the late 80's / early 90's albums but lost interest after > that. not that they're ever bad , just i was looking for something different. > p That's my fave SY period too. Daydream Nation, Goo & Dirty I suppose, though I suppose that's a lot to do with when I got into them - DN was my 1st SY album. Had I have got into them earlier, then the earlier ones might be my faves. (As is sometimes the case with bands, if you didn't hear the earlier albums at the time, they can sound less enthralling - particularly as I like the more powerful sound they went for in the early 90's). I haven't played Murray Street lately, but I liked it a lot. I thought it was their most consistent album in a while, even if it maybe lacked an absolute killer track. (Disconnection Notice is probably my fave on it) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:41:01 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Track I.D. Please Is there anything more ridiculous than someone returning for an unasked-for encore? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Track I.D. Please/and on and on and on..........yadda yadda ya Tisbili@aol.com wrote: Is there anything more ridiculous than someone returning for an unasked-for encore? Ari wrote Im sure I'm not the only one on the list that has the same sentiments as I,viz: Let's stop this childish silliness right now,isn't there something more pressing for you 'boyz' to do? now off you go,and be nice to each other you hear.Ari HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:52:58 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Track I.D. Please/and on and on and on..........yadda yadda ya i'm done. sorry fellow copyists, if i'm helping to dredge up old sludge. my perspective (up until the off-list email i rec'd) had always been what i said in my initial response...i wondered whether the question was sincere or if he was goofing on us by asking something so obvious (or at least easily answered without inquiring of the list, as in "buying the cd that you know contains the song" now that it's clear what his intentions were). my question's been answered. i'm entitled to find someone annoying, and i'm able to express my annoyance without name calling. basically i'm an angry person who goes through life trying to make the most of what i've got. so somewhere along the way there's gonna be someone who just pushes the wrong button and gets me to spit some venom. i hope none of it got on the rest of you. again, i'm done. this guy can deny his own words or whatever. i promise i'll just ignore from now on. i make no promises about being nice though ;o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 00:53:55 -0700 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] ham dishes can anyone help me identify a song that goes "footsi footsi" or something like that? when it's cold i fill hot when it's hot i fill ham dishes, paul c.d. """""""" - ----That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Perfect for reading the lists mail at one in the morning. I almost woke up the lot of the house! paulye154 _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:43:10 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Sonik Yoof Rek's... Keith: > What's Made in the USA? don't know that one. Stephen Thomas Erlewine about Made in USA: "A soundtrack to an obscure 1986 movie, Made in USA captures Sonic Youth trying to fit their expansive ideas into the brief space allotted to incidental film music. Keeping the atmospherics but scaling back the noise, the band manages to evoke textures different from their albums, textures that are drier and less overtly avant-garde. Nevertheless, Made in USA doesn't rank among their finest work, not because it's on a smaller scale, but because it all sounds tossed-off; there isn't much thought to any of this music. Even so, the disc is still quite listenable, which shows how good the band was in 1985 and 1986." > That's my fave SY period too. Daydream Nation, Goo & Dirty I suppose, though > I suppose that's a lot to do with when I got into them - DN was my 1st SY > album. Had I have got into them earlier, then the earlier ones might be my > faves. (As is sometimes the case with bands, if you didn't hear the earlier > albums at the time, they can sound less enthralling - particularly as I like > the more powerful sound they went for in the early 90's). Steve Albini about DN in 1998: "One of the best records of the past decade Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation" is for my money not only the best SY album, but the best rock record or just record period in the past decade or so of good old rock n' roll, or 'alternative', if you must, since anything electrified passes as an alternative to good music nowadays. From the great and unforgettable "Teenage Riot" to "Trilogy" and the fantastic "Providence", this is an album that was ahead of it's time them, and stands the test of time now. The fantastic guitar structures and dynamics of the songs make for an absolute treat for the ears and mind. Too bad the following SY albums, with the exception of "Dirty" and "A Thousand Leaves" didn't match up to the brilliance on this, and their albums preceding this one. If this record isn't part fo your collection, your collection isn't complete." http://sonicyouth.com/history/reviews/index.html Bart [lazy] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:29:34 +0100 (CET) From: Bo Krogsgaard Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bo / WIR30 On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 voyteck@webtv.net wrote: > I tried several anagram engines / generators, only to have this WebTV > internet terminal fail the quest. Anyone with windows / mac can execute > the excercise as indicated ... curious now why no mention of god/God on > album back ... Just: "remixed and re-located by The Hafler Trio at > Suitcase Studios in Reykjavik, Iceland". Has anyone inquired at > h30@veda.is or touch@touch.demon.uk ? Is this the beggining of a mystery > version (fancy footsi - footsi?) or Lewis' last 3 words: "power supplies > cut"? Well, i know Andrew in person, we worked together for a years' time. He gave me the record but he likes to be mysterious, so i never got him to spill the beans about the anagrams. Jon (Wozencroft) probably doesn't even know. b ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #372 *******************************