From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #369 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, November 1 2002 Volume 05 : Number 369 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] listen up Jeff Buckley fans [Ari Britt ] RE: [idealcopy] listen up Jeff Buckley fans [Alistair Tear ] Fw: [idealcopy] Cheer up, Keith ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] 99.9 Drills Agree in Public Vacuum ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] 99.9 Drills Agree in Public Vacuum [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Q=Poo Barney McGrew ["Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] listen up Jeff Buckley fans go to http://www.hob.com/onlinemusic/webcasts/eventpage.asp?event=021016jeffbuckley enjoy the concert.Ari HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:35:16 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] listen up Jeff Buckley fans Thanks for that Ari I look forward to hearing it tonight A > -----Original Message----- > From: Ari Britt [mailto:luvjazzz@yahoo.com] > Sent: 31 October 2002 10:58 > To: shriek_digicon@yahoogroups.com; idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] listen up Jeff Buckley fans > > > go to > > http://www.hob.com/onlinemusic/webcasts/eventpage.asp?event=02 > 1016jeffbuckley > > enjoy the concert.Ari > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Happy Birthday! regards, FfB just 43 years old and "alive and kickin' ..." np: "human" - the shining ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:00:29 EST From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Cover of Suzanne on Take Care Bought the CD version of Take Care in the end, despite Mark B and others fairly daming comments on the extra track - the cover of Leonard Cohen's Suzanne. I have to admit that I quite like it. Sounds very late 80s but I certainly wouldn't call it an embarassing moment. Part of the reason why I like it is probably my fondness for LC's contemporaneous 'I'm your man' - it is very much in the style of his own 'First we take Manhattan'. Not as good as the version on the Flying Lizard's Top Ten (1984) - a great underrated album IMO - which I heard before the Cohen version and probably before I even knew who Leonard Cohen was. FWIW... Still like Take Care as a whole, flawed though it is in some respects. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:13:41 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] WIR3O Bo asked about anagrams >> Did anybody ever figure out the other five? >> Did anybody ever care to at all? The hooded figure walked into the room, his face hidden from us all. He walks up to the tinsel covered wardrobe containing the Golden Anorak. He reaches out his hand to open the door, then pauses. His shoulders droop, he whispers under his breath "Bugger It". He turns and walks out the room. Step forward the next challenger. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:13:44 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Cheer up, Keith > > but I'm 46 too on Thursday - like Paul P a Hallowe'en baby > > (albeit 9 years > > and 21 hours earlier). > > Happy Birthday! > > regards, > > FfB > and happy birthday from me too! Andrew & Mark this week too I seem to recall. An excuse for those of us at Brighton next week to raise our glasses (and then down the contents!) cheers Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:49 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Cheer up, Keith In a message dated 10/31/02 7:05:19 PM GMT Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > An excuse for those of us at Brighton next week to raise our glasses (and > then down the contents!) > > cheers > > Keith > ////////so what is the suggested meeting place then , did we ever work that out? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:42:14 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] London Orbital / EP's Paul Pietromonaco... >I hate to ask this, but does anyone have it in SP? (^_^;;) hey Paul, quit hatin'... (^_^) i did it deliberately in SP, as was asked for, just in case no other bugger did...and it seems no other bugger did, so... ...though as i can't say i stayed exactly 'focused' on the programme, i'll just send you the tape when i get a chance... mail me off-list to sort 'the deal' out...!!! cheers, ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:47:02 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] London Orbital / EP's >>i did it deliberately in SP, as was asked for, just in case no other bugger did...and it seems no other bugger did, so...<< Not watched it yet, but I should have an SP copy too if anyone needs it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] happy birthday to... .....all of you with birthdays this year (!) and to those of you who aren't too keen on 'growing older',I'm loving being 59,so don't be so glum/down/disheartened.Ari HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:21:39 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] 99.9 Drills Agree in Public Vacuum > Colin even recorded a vacuum cleaner for a track on the bonus EP! >>>> > > wasn't the Hoover Vacuum Cleaner the basis for all those Belgian (and Dutch) > hardcore techno records of the early 90's?? and of course Richard James has > romanced the vacuum a few times as well... > Colin invented techno Another the Letter 1978 Music was shit before Colin got his vacuum cleaners out, we all know that! Anyone notice the tasteful use of emergency sirens and drills on Spent? Or has Bruce mastered all kinds of sonic imitation and not just Colin-ventriloquism as observed by Ptchfork Reviews?? Better not mention Lee Ranaldo's use of the drill as musical instrument on the first Sonic Youth EP... The similarities between 99.9 and Public Place also became apparent to me over the last few days, but 99.9 ups the ante. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:42:06 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Q=Poo Barney McGrew Paul Rabjohn here makes a bid for the 'Q Masochism Award' >>>pink won the best video , sugababes the best single , tom jones the lifetime achievement award and depeche mode the innovation award. meanwhile some people think Q is pants , can't think why. p These people are just pure music snobs! Depeche Mode make subversion the norm with Every Breath They Take They should give Sting Life - Time though Heck if you want a retro-synthlaugh pop over to www.fflintcentral.co.uk and check the old NME article in their scrapbook where Genesis P Orridge gives the Human League a right savaging... Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:01:43 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? Last I heard, Bruce Gilbert was WIRE related, in that he tends to play guitar for the band. Immersion's Low Impact also reminds me a little of Time Machines, but I know for a fact that Coil have had zero influence on Immersion. Another mystical aspect: The list on Airmail from Dome 1 where Bruce recites what could past for some kind of incantation / spell - Jasmine, Luxor, Skinshank... etc? Also ritual aspects to Dome and Coil warrant comparison. Green Child in Red Tent Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > In a message dated 10/28/02 12:50:48 PM Central Standard Time, > umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: > > << As for WIRE related comparisons, I'd say the closest thing to Coil is > Ocsid - > I could imagine John Balance taking the mic for Detect, but he'd probably > sing > something about the green goblin children of doom and ask if you are actually > an octopus. >> > > nobody said anything about Coil sounding like Wire....i said that some Nurse > With Wound material is in the same ballpark as SOME of Bruce Gilbert's > stuff.... > > RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:44:53 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Lockdown the Remains 1. Paul asked: Retisonic rocked 2. Paul didn't ask... but FUGAZI rocked even more! seen this band 20 times or so & their Manc gig was the best i've ever seen them, playing nearly 2 hrs seemed like 20mins, couldn't quite believe Lockdown straight into Waiting Room "I am a pastry boy I bake I bake I bake I bake" 3. Electrelane are good too and if that sexty Italo-butt wiggler Guy P said no I'd be game for climbing into bed with any of those laidies and doing that thing that can make you babies if you're not too careful. 4 ANTI_WAR demo in Manc wentoff well w/ many hotbabes in attendance... met up with young 'uns who dragged me along to Halloween showdown from heavy zombiecore onslaught courtesy of Send More Paramedics 5. Boozin' I'm Boozin' Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "I was shocked to find what was allowed" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:18:46 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > >>I could imagine John Balance taking the mic for Detect, but he'd probably > sing something about the green goblin children of doom and ask if you are > actually an octopus. >> Hit the nail on the head. Therein lies the problem. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:21:10 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 99.9 Drills Agree in Public Vacuum > >>Better not mention Lee Ranaldo's use of the drill as musical instrument on > the first Sonic Youth EP...<< yer Neubauten beat him to it. The group photo on the back of Kollaps, with all their "hardware" laid out before them, is one of the finest pictures of a beat combo ever taken. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:02:45 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Q=Poo Barney McGrew > Paul Rabjohn here makes a bid for the 'Q Masochism Award' Talking of masochism I saw the end of the National Music Awards (no I don't know why I watched it either!). As if Westlife, Gareth, etc wasn't enough, the finale saw hostess Martine McCutcheon leave her podium to perform a truly awful end-of-the-pier like rendition That's Why The Lady Is A Tramp. It was wretched!!! As Neil Tennant said, we're living in 'the revenge of the stage school brats' age. The worst thing about it is that it shows no sign of letting up, or people getting fed up of it. And if this all people know and expect... Keith NP A bit of Roxy Music... > >>>pink won the > best video , sugababes the best single , tom jones the lifetime achievement > award and depeche mode the innovation award. meanwhile some people think Q is > pants , can't think why. p > > These people are just pure music snobs! > Depeche Mode make subversion the norm with > Every Breath They Take > > They should give Sting > Life - Time > though > > Heck if you want a retro-synthlaugh > pop over to > www.fflintcentral.co.uk > and check the old NME article in their scrapbook > where Genesis P Orridge gives the Human League > a right savaging... > > Cracked Machine > Highly Irregular Cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:29:33 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Cheer up, Keith In a message dated 31/10/2002 19:31:20 GMT Standard Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > An excuse for those of us at Brighton next week to raise our glasses (and > > then down the contents!) > > > > cheers > > > > Keith > > > ////////so what is the suggested meeting place then , did we ever work that > > out? p > Hey don't forget me - 43 last Tuesday.Will be at Brighton.Don't think a place was suggested. Chris ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #369 *******************************