From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #366 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, October 29 2002 Volume 05 : Number 366 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] so much for *that* top ten, then. ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Slanted and Strange [Aaron Mandel ] [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] I Killed Christgau with my Tiny Texan Dick ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Not Me ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Wire Tapper 09 ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] I Killed Christgau with my Tiny Texan Dick [RLynn9@aol.co] [idealcopy] BOC [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? ["Stephen Graziano" ] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire Tapper 09 [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] more on COH [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? ["Keith Astbury" ] RE: [idealcopy] Friday admission ["Andrew Lumbard" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:46:08 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] so much for *that* top ten, then. > I'm sure there's more lurking in the back brain somewhere. This is a >useful exercise actually - it's made me realise there are few things more > exciting in musical appreciation than hearing an ep by a new band... > > another the Keith With you all the way there Keith. I like a good e.p. myself... a great way of hearing a new band and being able to tell that they've got more than one decent song... A few I must mention... The Shamen - They Might Be Right (pre-dance pre-success version of the band, with psychedelic pop classic debut e.p.) Bleach - 1st two e.p.s (one of the more unsung - and energetic - shoegazing era bands) Arsenal - Manipulator (inc. the stunning Little Hitler's, that warmed them up nicely for the classic Factory Smog...) Snapper - Buddy (definitely one of the greatest e.p.s ever IMO. Stunning) What? Noise - Vein (Mancunian noise) A Flux of Pink Indians - Neu Smell (this one's been discussed here before, but always worth a mention. Fab!) Elbow - Any Day Now (and more recently, my introduction to them early last yr. Like any good e.p. it all fits nicely together) As for e.p.s by people you're already into, I'd have to go for MBV who seemed to excel at them. I'm also rather fond of Friday 13th by The Damned, though I'm well aware that a lot of people here don't share my love of 1979-82 period Capt/Rat/Vanian. And going back a bit further, 1977 saw a few good ones too - 3D EP, Stop It, Safety Pin Stuck in my Heart and the Alberto's very silly, very funny Snuff Rock with the classic Gobbing on Life. If they hadn't been taking the piss, it would have been a punk classic in it's own right... Living is a clichi You've heard it all before death is the only thing that you've got left to live for I'm gobbing on life... or something like that! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:52:00 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] so much for *that* top ten, then. > Living is a clichi You try and be clever, use spell check so you have the little thingie above the 'E', and this is what happens. 'Living is a clichi' indeed! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:13:24 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] M25 Hi all, Thanks for the Barbican reviews guys... Here's one from the Times...it only gets 2 out of 5 stars...but is quite nice about our boys later A http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,685-459352,00.html ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:34:48 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse With Wound's output is instrumental No it's not. David Tibet sings manically on An Awkward Pause There is a long spoken vocal on side 2 of Thunder Perfect Mind There is a mumbled poem on 'White Light from the Stars in your Mind' from the track of the same name on The Man with the Woman Face >>>and Coil have released many instrumental albums... Time Machines & the Hellraiser 10" are the only completely instrumental Coil albums I've heard. What are the others? How to Destroy Angels? Worship the Glitch? The 'Mystical' aspect is easily ignorable if it irks the listener. As for WIRE related comparisons, I'd say the closest thing to Coil is Ocsid - I could imagine John Balance taking the mic for Detect, but he'd probably sing something about the green goblin children of doom and ask if you are actually an octopus. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:34:58 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Biba Bollocks >>>I think Biba Kopf was the nom de plume of Richard Cook who started Wire magazine. 1. Biba Kopf = Chris Bohn 2. Richard Cook did not start The Wire >[excellent] paragraph about R'n'B 01 last month. >>>That was David Keenan what writ that... 3. It was Biba Kopf. DK wrote all the rest of the reviews on that page, which were all about twice the length. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:35:47 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] I Killed Christgau with my Tiny Texan Dick >Those who can, do >Those who can't, teach. >Those who can't teach, administrate. and >Those who can't administrate, criticize. Those who can't criticise Send endless Off Topic email to Ideal Copy Bappy Hearseday to One and All! Especially Our Good Friend Dj Na Na! What has become of him? Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:37:55 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Bruce Gilbert is (NOT) breaking his lungs Pitchfork reviews... >>>I'll give you one US dollar if you can actually discern what Bruce Gilbert is breaking his lungs to shout at you. Vocal melody is rendered obsolete (again) by the bravado of "Raft Ants"' (!) So now Bruce is doing killer Colin impressions? The many talents of the Gilbert never cease to surprise! On a song that has been mistaken for Mr Marx's Table by several at US gigs, it seems... I know, I know, these newfangled heavy dancemetal floor defilers all sound the same, don't they? If only we could rewind to 79, The Now hurt so much more back Then! I shot your silver dollar http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Liars Peel session, 10000 Years From NOW ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:38:09 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Undone Palling >>No. Just London Calling. >>It was recorded in 1979. It was released in 1979. It's an album of the 70s, not the 80s. I always thought it was recorded in the Fifties. This list is so damn informative! You get to hear about so much new music, researched meticulously, so much better than The Wire isn't it? 154 is the greatest album of the 80s IMO, yeah I know, Howard Jones did some fantastic tunes in that decayed, but what the hell, this one has a much nicer picture on the cover! Colin even recorded a vacuum cleaner for a track on the bonus EP! What could be better? Well apart from Howard Jones of course? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:40:36 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Not Me That Bastard remix Paul found on kazaa has nothing to do with me. I only do remixes for Sonic Youth But here is recipe for instant Immersion remix Get 2 Cd players Insert Low Impact into one In Esse into the other hit play on both You didn't touch me Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:59 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire Tapper 09 > There is a useful article on No Wave. >>>thus continuing the wire's endless march from relevancy Some say it was downhill all the way after putting Steve Lacy on the cover but really The Wire started to slide when they put that ugly pseudocastrato geekwarbler from Radiohead on the front, but in all practicality they'd just gone independent and probably felt they had to try filching a few disillusioned eNMEy readers. So there's an article on No Wave? How is that a problem when its well researched and illuminating? Its only 8 pages of a 130 page magazine! And it has a great Savage Pencil picture too! Of the recordings listed, I've only heard Hysterie, Mars 78, Confusion is Sex, The Ascension and some of the tracks that will appear on the Rhys Chatham 3CD retrospective. As for Wire Tapper 09, it'll probably end up being the compilation I've played most all year, apart from maybe the best bits off the Klangbad sampler which also came with The Wire. Actually I stopped buying the damn thing when they put Yorkieboy on the cover, it would've been too much to have that nightmare adman vision in my flat, but I still read friends' copies and really had no choice but to res*b to get hold of the exclusive Faust track on the klangbad.de sampler. The first CD of WT09 is pretty much a good listen from start to finish, except for a really dumb rap about blow (ain't that just so cool? A stoned rapper? The shit is fly!). Highlights: 1. WIRE - Spent If you haven't heard this yet, steal a credit card and get over to posteverything.com NOW! Some dillweed has billed this as an exclusive, though. Are you gonna shoot Rob Young, or shall I? Surely WIRE must be assuming the guise of 'Afghan Warlord Council' to decide his fate of his Agfers even as I type. 2. Suicide - Swearin' to the Flag If the Suicide album is all as good as this it might be as great as their debut... 3. Oxes - Horses R OK (Cex mix) Four way buttfuck collision of prehensile stat-rock and heavy hippity hop beats that works brilliantly. Best thing is Cex was so busy munching Oxcock he didn't have time to spoil it with one of his stupid raps. Its exclusive. 4. Supersilent - C-4.1 An exclusive from the Norwegian group who I'm calling The Future of Jazz, and you can quote me on that Mr Coldbrain! 5. Liars - Grown Men Don't Fall... A new slightly improved version of the funkity anti-work anthem that opens their album and has been on every goddamn compilation they've contributed to. When I get the new EP I'll have 5 different CDs with this on, which is just a little excessive, considering that its probably the weakest track they've done. 6. Mum - We Have a Map of the Piano Bjork would give her left pixietit to make an album as lovely as their recent one on Fat Cat. Please don't float so fast you little man. The noise... 7. Jimmy Lyons Trio - Jump Up Vintage free jazz blow out! Green gas trumpet not included. 8. Tarwater - 70 Rupies to Paradise Road This and their Mixing it session seem to indicate that their new album could be easily their best yet. 9. Polwechsel / Fennesz - Pulsinger remix Doesn't really add a whole lot to the Fennesz cannon, as he's hardly in need of remixing, but it is exclusive. Why Pulsinger wants Fennesz to sound like Tortoise is beyond me, but I always liked Tortoise so what the fuck? 10. Asa-Chang & Junray - Tsuginepu To Ittemita Vocal / tabla rhythms from a true original who could only have been Japanese. From an EP available early next year via posteverything. Lowshites: Max Tundra, Vadim, D'Arcangelo & The Sea and Cake can all go fuck a duck. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:55:15 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 12:50:48 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse With Wound's output is instrumental No it's not. David Tibet sings manically on An Awkward Pause There is a long spoken vocal on side 2 of Thunder Perfect Mind There is a mumbled poem on 'White Light from the Stars in your Mind' from the track of the same name on The Man with the Woman Face The 'Mystical' aspect is easily ignorable if it irks the listener. >>>>> well...see? i managed to ignore David Tibet's "vocals" altogether....it actually works i suppose!...nice one Bill ! by the way, do you still need any Coil cds? i was supposed to burn some more for you but i forgot which ones.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:22 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] I Killed Christgau with my Tiny Texan Dick In a message dated 10/28/02 12:50:58 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << Bappy Hearseday to One and All! Especially Our Good Friend Dj Na Na! What has become of him? >> i actually wondered the same thing....and whatever happend to that fellow (forgot his name) that Graeme Rowland had words with? I believe they both ended up leaving for a while because of it...what was that guys name?.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:14:26 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] BOC November 25th sees the long awaited re-issue of the "Twoism" album by Boards of Canada...this was originally released in a very small run through their own label, Music 70.....this was of course before they signed to Warp...This album preceded the magical "Music Has the Right to Children"......also on the rebound, the Hi-Scores ep, originally released by the Manchester label, SKAM...... also released by Warp on the 25th, Russell Haswell & Masami Akita (better known as Merzbow) unleash Satan's Tornade (Warp 666) upon the world...any album with a track called Testicular Fortitude has to be fun!....crank it up! RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:05 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? Also Rock and Roll Station is sung/spoken - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hick" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse > With Wound's output is instrumental > > No it's not. > David Tibet sings manically on > An Awkward Pause > > There is a long spoken vocal on side 2 of > Thunder Perfect Mind > > There is a mumbled poem on > 'White Light from the Stars in your Mind' > from the track of the same name on > The Man with the Woman Face > > >>>and Coil have released many instrumental > albums... > > Time Machines & the Hellraiser 10" are the only completely instrumental Coil > albums I've heard. What are the others? > > How to Destroy Angels? > > Worship the Glitch? > > The 'Mystical' aspect is easily ignorable if it irks the listener. > > As for WIRE related comparisons, I'd say the closest thing to Coil is Ocsid - > I could imagine John Balance taking the mic for Detect, but he'd probably sing > something about the green goblin children of doom and ask if you are actually > an octopus. > > Cracked Machine > Highly Irregular Cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:06:20 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 1:58:31 PM Central Standard Time, sjgraziano@hotmail.com writes: << Also Rock and Roll Station is sung/spoken OK OK OK....it was an error in my typing!!! give me a break already...i meant to type "ALMOST all of Nurse With Wound's output is instrumental"..i make these mistakes all the time...sorry..humblest apologies...tie me to a tree and flog me... RL > >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse > With Wound's output is instrumental ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:11:35 -0800 (PST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: [idealcopy] Hang the dj > << Bappy Hearseday to One and All! > Especially Our Good Friend > Dj Na Na! > > What has become of him? >> > > i actually wondered the same thing....and whatever > happend to that fellow > (forgot his name) that Graeme Rowland had words > with? I believe they both > ended up leaving for a while because of it...what > was that guys name?.. Wanker! ===== /\/\/\ { . . } /\ -- -bollocks! (R)GWS Ltdhttp://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:13:09 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 1:58:31 PM Central Standard Time, sjgraziano@hotmail.com writes: << Also Rock and Roll Station is sung/spoken >> and by the way, i completely overlooked Rock n Roll Station, Who Can i Turn to Stereo, and An Awkward Pause in Stapleton's ouevre, simply because i tried to forget them...i think they suck eggs...Stapleton's forays into acoustic drum/recognizable drum machine beats are rather weak and embarrassing (by his own admission as well).... RL RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:21:24 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Tapper 09 << 2. Suicide - Swearin' to the Flag If the Suicide album is all as good as this it might be as great as their debut... >> seems pretty solid all the way through....let us know what you think of it when you get around to hearing it....your opinions are always quite illuminating np - "Silence is Golden" (from Vox Tinnitus ep) by COH with Peter Christopherson of Coil reciting the lyrics written by Jhon Balance... a love song if you will.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:25:18 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] more on COH NEW FROM IDEA http://www.idearecords.com artist: COH title: Seasons format: 2x12" LP set Four Seasons, Four paintings, Four sides of Vinyl, Four pieces of music. SEASONS is a magical work for the 21st century that was painted/recorded in each corresponding season over the course of 2001- 2002 by Russian born composer Ivan Pavlov AKA COH & his wife Nadja. Summer starts it all off with an incendiary violin piece performed by guest violinist Janesse Stewart that defies the meaning of beautifully suspended tones. The delicate piano keyed piece of Autumn (a tribute to Giacinto Scelsi) includes a subtle field recording by COIL member Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson. Winter finds us warmed by the most mesmerizing drone, sounding as rich as a well blown brass instrument, with deep haunting echoes of a dissonant cello, repetitive and ritualistic. To top it all off, spring is a mind-shattering rave-up dedication to both Mars (The God Of Spring and The God of War) and extreme art terrorist Russell Haswell. Two slabs of Audiophile 180g vinyl in a gorgeous gatefold with UV gloss & matte metallic! Edition of 400. EPIC........ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:32:43 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 12:50:48 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << As for WIRE related comparisons, I'd say the closest thing to Coil is Ocsid - I could imagine John Balance taking the mic for Detect, but he'd probably sing something about the green goblin children of doom and ask if you are actually an octopus. >> nobody said anything about Coil sounding like Wire....i said that some Nurse With Wound material is in the same ballpark as SOME of Bruce Gilbert's stuff.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:42:30 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > tie me to a tree and flog me... > > RL I'll be over as soon as I can Robert! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:34:02 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] I Killed Christgau with my Tiny Texan Dick In a message dated 10/28/02 12:50:58 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << Those who can't criticise Send endless Off Topic email to Ideal Copy>>>>> yes...see below... Bappy Hearseday to One and All! Especially Our Good Friend Dj Na Na! What has become of him? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:36:12 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Not Me In a message dated 10/28/02 12:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << But here is recipe for instant Immersion remix Get 2 Cd players Insert Low Impact into one In Esse into the other hit play on both >> very revolutionary and ingenius...i'll certainly try it when i get home.....your recent dj set list was very interesting and eclectic...do you record you mix? if so i would like to have one... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:39:28 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Undone Palling In a message dated 10/28/02 12:52:06 PM Central Standard Time, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: << 154 is the greatest album of the 80s IMO, yeah I know, Howard Jones did some fantastic tunes in that decayed, but what the hell, this one has a much nicer picture on the cover!>>> i don't know....the cover of Human's Lib was pretty cool... Colin even recorded a vacuum cleaner for a track on the bonus EP! >>>> wasn't the Hoover Vacuum Cleaner the basis for all those Belgian (and Dutch) hardcore techno records of the early 90's?? and of course Richard James has romanced the vacuum a few times as well... What could be better? Well apart from Howard Jones of course? >>>>> i dunno....a Flock of Seagulls? RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:54:53 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Friday admission In a message dated 10/27/02 9:11:22 PM GMT Standard Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > Andrew - are the Polyphonic Spree actually any good? I've not heard a note > yet myself. ///////they were on the Q awards which i taped last week , probably the best thing on it although the competition was not exactly great. they opened the show pretty well. however things went pretty badly downhill as pink won the best video , sugababes the best single , tom jones the lifetime achievement award and depeche mode the innovation award. meanwhile some people think Q is pants , can't think why. p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:03:34 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Friday admission In a message dated 10/28/02 3:55:43 PM Central Standard Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > > Andrew - are the Polyphonic Spree actually any good? I've not heard a > note > > yet myself. > > ///////they were on the Q awards which i taped last week , probably the > best > thing on it although the competition was not exactly great. they opened the > > show pretty well. however things went pretty badly downhill as pink won the > > best video , sugababes the best single , tom jones the lifetime > achievement > award and depeche mode the innovation award. meanwhile some people think Q > is > pants , can't think why. p > well...i have nothing to say about the others..however, Depeche Mode WERE innovators...as much as you may dislike them, you cannot deny their importance in the history of electronic and pop music....period, end of story... RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:24:52 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Friday admission > well...i have nothing to say about the others..however, Depeche Mode WERE > innovators... >RL and the Numan sampling Sugababes single is fab. Probably in my top 20 of the year... Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:41:17 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bruce Gilbert is (NOT) breaking his lungs In a message dated 10/28/02 1:51:56 PM, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: >On a song that has been mistaken for Mr Marx's Table by several at US gigs, >it >seems... the only time i've heard the song in question was at the irving plaza gig. what is the song? the one that goes "it's too late to pray, etc" or something like that. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:31 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Undone Palling In a message dated 10/28/02 1:52:06 PM, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: > >154 is the greatest album of the 80s IMO, >yeah I know, Howard Jones did some fantastic tunes in that decayed, but >what >the hell, this one has a much nicer picture on the cover! well, as far as album covers go, 154 is not the best (not wire's best either fer sure). the 80's gave us some awesome record album art, from 23 envelope to hennebert to saville to licher. then there's that howard jones one that makes me do a double take every time, thinking it's a joy division bootleg. did he do that knowing his records would be right in front of jd's in most shops? my personal fave wire covers are snakedrill, chairs missing, and the r&b's. - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:47 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? you mean you're not going to go running crying to the Coil list that we don't like their music? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? > In a message dated 10/28/02 1:58:31 PM Central Standard Time, > sjgraziano@hotmail.com writes: > > << Also Rock and Roll Station is sung/spoken > > OK OK OK....it was an error in my typing!!! give me a break already...i > meant to type "ALMOST all of Nurse With Wound's output is instrumental"..i > make these mistakes all the time...sorry..humblest apologies...tie me to a > tree and flog me... > > RL > > > >>>as a matter of fact all of Nurse > > With Wound's output is instrumental ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:57:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 9:32:52 PM Central Standard Time, sjgraziano@hotmail.com writes: > you mean you're not going to go running crying to the Coil list that we > don't like their music? > > nah....i thought they'd find it interesting...no crying involved..sorry..better luck next time chum.... and by the way, don't pat yourself on the back too hard...i knew you'd read it..i've noticed you lurking there....if you dislike Coil so much why be on the Coil list? RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:03:19 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? I love Coil ----- Original Message ----- From: RLynn9@aol.com To: sjgraziano@hotmail.com ; umur_ot@hotmail.com ; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dein Lederhosen ist Krank, Ja? In a message dated 10/28/02 9:32:52 PM Central Standard Time, sjgraziano@hotmail.com writes: you mean you're not going to go running crying to the Coil list that we don't like their music? nah....i thought they'd find it interesting...no crying involved..sorry..better luck next time chum.... and by the way, don't pat yourself on the back too hard...i knew you'd read it..i've noticed you lurking there....if you dislike Coil so much why be on the Coil list? RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] 'LONDON ORBITAL' Apologies if this has already been mentioned: IAIN SINCLAIR'S 'LONDON ORBITAL' FILM UK TV premiere CHANNEL 4 29th October 2002 11.05pm soundtrack by Bruce Gilbert. ===== kevin eden e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wireviews.com "dreams that money can buy" HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:01:14 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Friday admission Well, where to begin? I thought it was going to be different when I spotted the harp onstage. The lights dim and 24 people in white robes appear on the not over generously sized stage of the Roadmender in Northampton. My first visit to the venue which held perhaps 6-700 punters. The band consists of a choir of ten, in full gospelly mode. Lead singer, guitar, bass, 2 keyboards, flute, trumpet, trombone, french horn, drums, percussion, effects (theremin,mainly)and harp. So, proper music, no backing tracks. Tremendous job done by the mixing desk, creating a full wall of sound. The music? Late 60's California feel, current Flaming Lips/Mercury Rev. Definate indie feel to it, though. Lyrical content? 'Sun is shining, we're all happy' Vocals? Very reminicsant of Mercury Rev Songs? Intro/verse/sing-along chorus solo/verse/sing-along chorus with choir/slow or up tempo for middle eight/pause/full on chorus with everything thrown in. My natural cynicism is now beginning to show through, but I have to say that, as a show, it was one of best gigs attended in my 20-odd years of concerts. Mrs Lumbard was that impressed that I had to see if we could catch them again on this tour, sadly not. Bought the album, which sadly also includes a 39 minute monotonal ambient track, but hey, that may float the boat of some on the list! Definately a try before you buy, but this Wire fan and his GSYBE mate thought they were great. AndyL >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On >> Behalf Of Keith Astbury >> Sent: 28 October 2002 00:28 >> To: Keith Knight; Andrew Lumbard; idealcopy@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Friday admission >> >> >> > Andrew - are the Polyphonic Spree actually any good? I've not heard a >> note >> > yet myself. >> > >> > another the Keith >> >> I'm not Andrew, but... >> >> My eldest son who has recently started university, has become >> involved in a >> uni magazine. He rang me last week to say he was going to interview the >> Polyphonic Spree. As there are 24 of them, they all wear white robes and >> look like some weird cult, I did wonder if they were gonna whisk him off >> somewhere, but he's since rang and said he only interviewed the >> main guy. He >> said he was really nice, and made him feel at ease (this was my lads 1st >> interview). He watched the gig afterwards and said they were *great*. >> >> Keith ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #366 *******************************