From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #320 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, September 20 2002 Volume 05 : Number 320 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] mystery song [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] It's-- ["Cambra, Robert" ] Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] An eye for an eye, a page for a page ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" <] Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Robert wrote [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Robert wrote [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Wirevival, Minneapolis [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Fwd: 24 Hours Of Throbbing Gristle - Pre-Order [PaulRabjohn@a] Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: 24 Hours Of Throbbing Gristle - Pre-Order [rayograph] Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Singing Dome ["Cambra, Robert" ] Re: [idealcopy] see you nerds @ lee's tommorrow ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] Peel/irving plaza/oxes get dressed and put on a show [Ear] Re: [idealcopy] hello again, crispy [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] accidental club attendance [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] WA ["John M Campbell" ] Re: [idealcopy] re: 24 hour party poop [Bart van Damme > well give it the old flying elbowsmash from the top turnbuckle....err..sorry...bad pro-wrestling reference... but hey, the late Andre the Giant was from Grenoble, France don'tcha know... err...i'll get me luchadore mask and my sequined robe now... RL NP - Crispy Ambulance - Scissorgun ...hmmm..i love Crispy Ambulance...and i love Graham Massey..but boy does this re-union album suck..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:16:01 -0400 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] It's-- It's sentences like this one from Idealcopy #317, "Give de gobshite Coca Cola!" that make me really appreciate the British take on English. Robert (another . . . Mac user) *************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the individuals to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmission in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and all of its attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:21:08 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! > hmmpfh..i'm jealous....just because Ari has a fine garden does not mean he is > capable of getting muddier than me!...i'll have you know that it's pouring > down raining right now and i DO work in a cemetery!..... We want proof Robert! Keep sending us those muddy pictures folks! ;-P Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:25:47 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! In a message dated 9/19/02 1:21:33 PM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: << We want proof Robert! Keep sending us those muddy pictures folks! ;-P Bart >> uh...all i have is some old photos of me as muddy footballer...around the age of 10.. they called me Der Kaiser back then.... ; ) RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:45:29 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! >> We want proof Robert! > uh...all i have is some old photos of me as muddy footballer...around the age > of 10.. > RL 10 Years? Nah, we could get arrested for using those you know ;-P > they called me Der Kaiser back then.... ; ) You looked like Beckenbauer at the age of 10? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:48:11 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! In a message dated 9/19/02 1:46:49 PM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: << You looked like Beckenbauer at the age of 10? Bart >> hahahahaa...no, but i don't think me mates could pronounce Rummenigge all that well... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:02:01 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Irving Plaza tonight > Didn't enjoy scrolling through endless off-topic posts. Well that told us! Still continuing on the earlier theme of people gettings mixed up, I read this before... "I dipped back into my past and began to recall an old girlfriend of mine who for a while had believed that when people referred to line dancing they were actually saying LION dancing. On one occasion when she was invited to go to a Country & Western club and try it, she refused, claiming that it was too dangerous". From One Hit Wonderland book by Tony Hawks. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > Tiga and Zyntherius. And it's craaaaaaaaaaap. I never liked "Sunglasses At Night" to start with, but I can see how a nice production would have saved the concept. Instead, it's got all the flaws of "electroclash" and no particular bounce, with the burden of being a retro-style novelty hit to boot. That said, if you want it, the Ministry Of Sound "This Is Tech-Pop" compilation is a fine disc of sugary stuff that will keep you from buying a lot of inconsistent albums, if you're so-minded. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:26:19 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN In a message dated 9/19/02 2:24:48 PM Central Daylight Time, aaron@eecs.harvard.edu writes: << That said, if you want it, the Ministry Of Sound "This Is Tech-Pop" compilation is a fine disc of sugary stuff that will keep you from buying a lot of inconsistent albums, if you're so-minded. a >> yeah i saw this in one of my local shops for a couple of bucks but didn't know if i could stand listening to it..... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:28:59 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 03:26:19PM -0400, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/19/02 2:24:48 PM Central Daylight Time, > aaron@eecs.harvard.edu writes: > > << That said, if you want it, the Ministry Of Sound "This Is Tech-Pop" > compilation is a fine disc of sugary stuff that will keep you from buying > a lot of inconsistent albums, if you're so-minded. > > a >> > > > yeah i saw this in one of my local shops for a couple of bucks but didn't > know if i could stand listening to it..... My knowing the name of an artist should *not* be construed as approval of their work. :) (Not to my taste, let us say.) - - Andrew - -- "Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy." - R.E.M., "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" ('Monster') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. Bart van Damme wrote: > Didn't know I'd had a sex change........(Ari in North Carolina) > "s.morlighem" wrote:Thanks lady Ari Intended as good advice perhaps? ;-P Also depends on what he was thanking you for Ari. Bart Well he is french.............. New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:31:41 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN In a message dated 9/19/02 2:29:51 PM Central Daylight Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: << My knowing the name of an artist should *not* be construed as approval of their work. :)>>>> no assumptions here Andrew..... (Not to my taste, let us say.)>>>> could be fun for a one night stand in the old car stereo though.... only i don't have a car... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:33:21 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] An eye for an eye, a page for a page >I also wanted to know if anyone has managed to aquire >page 1 of the "Agfers.." lyrics. If so, I'd like to >get a photocopy of it, perhaps in exchange for page 1. Page 1 for page 1 sounds like a fair trade! This reminds me of a story of my friend's 4-year-old son. When they moved to US, first thing they did they bought those tall floor lamps (because there are no ceiling lights in US bedrooms). So he comes to his parents' room and says - "let's move this lamp into my room, and mine into yours". So they ask - - why, because the lamps are exactly same. His answer? "Well, we'll have some fun moving them"... Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:33:15 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. In a message dated 9/19/02 2:30:46 PM Central Daylight Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Bart van Damme wrote: > Didn't know I'd had a sex change........(Ari in North Carolina) > "s.morlighem" wrote:Thanks lady Ari Intended as good advice perhaps? ;-P Also depends on what he was thanking you for Ari. Bart Well he is french............. >> s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:47:41 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Royalties for CN > > << That said, if you want it, the Ministry Of Sound "This Is Tech-Pop" > > compilation is a fine disc of sugary stuff that will keep you from buying > > a lot of inconsistent albums, if you're so-minded. > > > > yeah i saw this in one of my local shops for a couple of bucks but didn't > > know if i could stand listening to it..... > Andrew... > My knowing the name of an artist should *not* be construed as approval > of their work. :) > > (Not to my taste, let us say.) I thought Sunglasses was OK in a novelty kind of way. Sort of like Lawnchairs for the electro-clash generation! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:49:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. RLynn9@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/19/02 6:15:11 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << > Sorry... Ari makes me always thinks of Ari Up ! > So come on Ari. Any photos of you just wearing, ahem, mud ; ) >> Ari, don't pay any attention to Keith...he was just getting his leather trousers and leaving.... RL I know deary,thing is he looks SO much better without them.A New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:53:52 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. In a message dated 9/19/02 2:50:14 PM Central Daylight Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << < > Sorry... Ari makes me always thinks of Ari Up ! > So come on Ari. Any photos of you just wearing, ahem, mud ; ) >> Ari, don't pay any attention to Keith...he was just getting his leather trousers and leaving.... RL I know deary,thing is he looks SO much better without them.A >> ahh....what a trio we'd make for Halloween though! RL NP - Echo Boy - Echo Boy Volume 2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Robert wrote hahahhahahha.....good...a convert already...we'll get on just fine! Careful Morlu,He's into leather......... (Mr.) Ari New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:57:40 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to.. In a message dated 9/19/02 2:50:50 PM Central Daylight Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Ari, don't pay any attention to Keith...he was just getting his leather trousers and leaving.... RL I know deary,thing is he looks SO much better without them.A >> and by the way, i heard that Keith wears a fishing hat, a garish Hawaiian shirt, gym shorts, black socks (with sock straps of course) and dress shoes to mow the lawn as well as barbeque....talk about a versatile kinda guy! Marc Bolan one minute, Mark E. Smith the next! ; ) RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! Keith Astbury wrote: > << hands above sheets Keith! ;-) > > Bart > > yeah Keith....no teaching yourself who's boss anymore.... > > RL Well I needed one hand free to hold the photo of Ari in all his muddy glory That does it NO MORE PHOTO'S FOR YOU!!!!!!! ; ) New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:03:45 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert wrote In a message dated 9/19/02 2:56:27 PM Central Daylight Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << hahahhahahha.....good...a convert already...we'll get on just fine! Careful Morlu,He's into leather......... (Mr.) Ari >> pleather if you're nasty (sung to the tune of Nasty by Ms. Janet Jackson) hmmmpfh...at least i'm not into Roosters.....hmmmm...there's an idea for the French football team...a leather rooster mascot.... why do they wear those roosters on their jersies anyway?... RL....who doesn't REALLY care about football either....kind of hard when you're a boring old american..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:05:58 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] i've just snogged mary! In a message dated 9/19/02 3:03:47 PM Central Daylight Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Well I needed one hand free to hold the photo of Ari in all his muddy glory That does it NO MORE PHOTO'S FOR YOU!!!!!!! ; ) >> well Ari i'm sure ol' Keith won't need cheesecake photos of us anymore...he'll be getting photos from Mr. John Peel now...(especially after the brown nosing session the other night) ; ) RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:38:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Re: jaime janzen wrote: Hey Ari, How come I haven't seen the famous muddy picture? Jaime I'm waitin' 'till you get here sweetheart-you can then see the 'real thing'Ari _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Shriek at the world and the world shrieksback http://www.shriekback.com New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:50:26 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wirevival, Minneapolis In a message dated 9/16/02 2:42:12 AM GMT Daylight Time, cosa@isis.visi.com writes: > As much as I would have liked to hear, you know, > "Outdoor Miner" or "The Finest Drops" (are those girly choices?) mmmm , an interesting point. i mean , what would be the most "feminine" wire tracks.....its an interesting one. p ps what on earth is "limnological research" , i just have to ask this...... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:52:47 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: 24 Hours Of Throbbing Gristle - Pre-Order 
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: rayographique 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: 24 Hours Of Throbbing Gristle - Pre-Order

> 24 Hours Of Throbbing Gristle
> - 24 CD box set -
> Released 23rd December 2002
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:32:30 +0100
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Welcome to..

> and by the way, i heard that Keith wears a fishing hat, a garish Hawaiian
> shirt, gym shorts, black socks (with sock straps of course) and dress
shoes
> to  mow the lawn as well as barbeque....talk about a versatile kinda guy!
> Marc Bolan one minute, Mark E. Smith the next!  ; )

And yet the reality is so disappointingly dreary! I haven't even got a
feather boa.

Yet ; )

Keith.

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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ari Britt 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wirevival, Minneapolis

 PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/16/02 2:42:12 AM GMT Daylight Time, cosa@isis.visi.com 
writes:


> As much as I would have liked to hear, you know,
> "Outdoor Miner" or "The Finest Drops" (are those girly choices?)

mmmm , an interesting point. i mean , what would be the most "feminine" wire 
tracks.....its an interesting one. p

ps what on earth is "limnological research" , i just have to ask this...... 

LIMNOLOGY:the scientific study of bodies of fresh water:such as lakes and ponds,with reference to their physical.geolgraphical,biological and other features.(1890-95)Ari
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:22:21 -0400
From: "Cambra, Robert" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Singing Dome

Ya know, I find it so wonderful and endearing to find out here that there
are people who not only sing Dome songs to themselves, but who sing them
together and to each other. Just picture that. It's a fine, wacky world
after all.

Thank you,
Robert (another)


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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:41:50 +0100
From: "Tim" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re: 24 hour party poop

> yes...poop is one of the greatest words in the English language.....i

Its not in the English Language,  Its an Americanism. I prefer the good old
fashioned 'shite'.

Anyway, 24 Hour Party People is a very messy film, full of characters that
you could make a fascinating biopic of (Martin Hannett, Shaun Ryder, Ian
Curtis, Rob Gretton) who flash on and off the screen at random while the
focus is on Wilson. And they didn't get the haircut quite right.
Ian looks too old, Wilson looks too young, ACR look too cool, Bruce
Mitchell, Section 25 and Crispy Ambulance aren't in it and its 20 minutes
too long.

Still, millions of people now know who Vini Reilly is.

And Howard Devoto's cameo is very funny.

There's a pretty good documentary that was screened on Channel 4 before it
came out...and I suspect that will be on the DVD. Hooky  recounts the
Hacienda accountancy hell and gets a bit tearful....touching stuff.


N.P. Human League - Reproduction (hey robert!)

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:52:30 +0100
From: "Bill Hick" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Reading Prof B

> 'Reading Professor B

>>Reading Proficiency B - like a school test.

Lewis told Eden this refered to reading a book about Joseph Beuys because this
is what he was doing at the time they recorded the track.

Cracked Machine
Highly Irregular Cyberzine
http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine

Going to see the Bootleg Beatles
As the Bootleg Marque Chapman

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 02:05:25 +0100
From: "Tim" 
Subject: Re:  [idealcopy] see you nerds @ lee's tommorrow

Bart says

>
> This reminds me of John Thomson as the deaf stuntman in the Fast Show.
;-)
>
> On a similar topic, I was a bit disappointed with the new Harry Enfield's
> Celeb series. Only seen one so far, but still...
>

It was pitiful!
Enfield looks v.uncomfortable in the role. He's supposed to be playing a
fading 70s rock star..but he just can't cut it. Its very badly written (lots
of out-of-date cultural references to The Spice Girls etc) and the
supporting cast are terrible, especially the woman who plays his wife.
I bet the script-writers were gutted when they saw 'The Osbournes' with Ozzy
doing it all for real, only ten billion times funnier.

Shame. I like Enfield's earlier, funnier stuff. The  Kevin & Perry 'Oasis'
sketch is still a classic.
And 'Smashie and Nicey' were a genius comic creation (ultra-sharp
observation of UK Radio DJs).
I defy anyone on this list not to laugh at his re-creation of the Sex
Pistols/Bill Grundy incident with Dave Nice superimposed over the original
clip in the Bill Grundy role....("Will you say 'Shit' for this wad of
cash?").

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 02:09:19 +0100
From: "Tim" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Reading Prof B

William Said:

>
> Going to see the Bootleg Beatles
> As the Bootleg Marque Chapman
>
In that case,
I'm going to release a series of unlistenable albums as the Bootleg Plastic
Ono Band.

And then I'm going to start a company called The Bootleg Apple and give all
my money away to drug-addled hippies who claim to have invented time travel.

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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:17:27 EDT
From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Peel/irving plaza/oxes get dressed and put on a show

hey hey hey everybody,

first, thanks for the recommendations on recording streams of peel.

next, i'll get back to wire in a sec...

lots of emails to go through from the past two days, but i noticed one about 
the oxes shirts. i thought it was pretty funny once i saw that their guitars 
were wireless. the thing that "buggered" me (i shoulda typed boogered) more 
was that matt from oxes went fishing in his nose and flung his catch onto the 
stage. at least he didn't go into the audience with that! otherwise, the two 
guitarists spent much of the set roaming through the crowd, balcony included. 
kinda neat. i think they're strictly a live band though. i had listened to 
some of their songs a few weeks ago and wasn't too impressed. oh yeah, and 
all three of em were wearing dresses.

now wire! oh man. what a great show. i enjoyed 2000 a lot, but enjoyed this 
much more. i purposely tried not to get much info from reviews here, and i 
wonder if not knowing as much about the tour made it that much more 
enjoyable. i just had my first listen to r&b02 (great of course) and i think 
they played all of it. i'm not 100% sure about trash/treasure though...maybe 
they just played /treasure! the intro 99.9 lewis/gilbert cable fingering and 
colin stalking and bouncing alternately was a great opener. people around me 
were reaching for their earplugs before colin even got out on stage! robert, 
what can i say, give the man his props. incredible. he's definitely got the 
hardest job up there. it was colin's turn to blow his amp. things got fixed 
pretty quickly, and the overall sound was good. i was a bit surprised at the 
smallness of the guitar amps, but i think mesa boogies are generally smaller 
than the equivalent competition, so looks can be deceiving. they sure sounded 
cranked! and graham! i'm surprised he didn't blow another head!! spent, 
comet, art of stopping were all highlights. 1st fast had to have clocked in 
at under a minute. set ended with an incredible i don't understand. i didn't 
expect colin would be singing the verse himself.

and the encore went, and the encore went: advantage, reuters, lowdown...then 
back for pink flag.

i was bouncing the whole time. i think my internal organs still are. the road 
ahead looks quite appealing :o)

- -paul (another the) c.d.

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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:35:23 EDT
From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] hello again, crispy

In a message dated 9/18/02 4:36:39 AM, enquiries@sheridancoopers.co.uk writes:

<< I got a ticket from the "Dome" box office in Brighton for November

7th at the Concorde 2, ticket number two actually so it seems i'll not be on

my own. >>

welcome back andy. is that r&b01 you're boppin around to? i just got r&b02 at 
last night's gig...um, ur, magog. if you're still on the first, wait til you 
hear that! i still wanna know what "the smell of you" smells like, 
people...gimme the lowdown!

speaking of concert tickets, i got ticket #1 to the crispy ambulance show in 
ny on nov, 10. they're only playing a few gigs, all pretty much on the east 
coast, so come on fellow americans...buy those tickets! i hear airfares are 
very reasonable, so you guys across the pond may wanna stop by too ;o)

- -paul (read and burn and) c.d.

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:14:10 EDT
From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com
Subject: [idealcopy] accidental club attendance

In a message dated 9/18/02 5:32:56 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes:

<< 

(Have to admit that I once rang my local venue and thought the message said

Television were playing there. Imagine how quickly my excitement evaporated

when I discovered it was, in fact, Terrorvision!) >>

and imagine the look on my face (i know i know, just substitute your own face 
for demonstration purposes) when in halifax i saw an ad in the paper that the 
lounge lizards were playing a local club one of the nights my wife and i were 
there. so i drag the wife down, promising her it will be much more enjoyable 
than the swans or the damned (will i ever stop feeling guilty for taking her 
to those?)...anyway, we pay at the door, enter, order our drinks, sit around 
a bit, and then the announcer welcomes everyone to "lounge lizards" the 
club's name for their karaoke night! we left after the guy who did harry 
chapin. we laughed a lot on the way back to the hotel. 

however, good news and bad news. the next night we went to this underground 
(literally in a basement) club and saw another harry chapin wannabe, followed 
by one of the best bands (not previously known to me) that i've ever seen. 
they were a 50/50 mix of the fall and joy division without sounding like they 
were ripping off either band! it was incredible. bad news wasn't the opening 
act, it's that i forgot what their name was...for some reason i wanna 
remember it as "blue bottles" but i'm just not sure and have never heard 
anything about a band called blue bottles since, so  :o(  any thoughts on 
this one from canadian copyists? or do we have a canadian post punk anorak 
award to give out? anyone? i know it's not much to go by. it was 1991. that's 
all i can tell you.

- -paul c.d.

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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:45:37 -0700
From: "John M Campbell" 
Subject: [idealcopy] WA

Anyone on the list going to the WADC show?
    johnc

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:52:02 +0200
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re: 24 hour party poop

>> yes...poop is one of the greatest words in the English language.....i
> 
> Its not in the English Language,  Its an Americanism. I prefer the good old
> fashioned 'shite'.


It's Dutch!

Since medieval times the Dutch have used the word "poep" wich is pronounced
in exactly the same way [and used with an equal amount of pleasure].
What can you say... our whole country is literally covered with it - endless
pastures of cowdung and streets full of dogshite.

Bart

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:05:14 +0200
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] accidental club attendance

If you know the name of the club you could google...

Bart


> however, good news and bad news. the next night we went to this underground
> (literally in a basement) club and saw another harry chapin wannabe, followed
> by one of the best bands (not previously known to me) that i've ever seen.
> they were a 50/50 mix of the fall and joy division without sounding like they
> were ripping off either band! it was incredible. bad news wasn't the opening
> act, it's that i forgot what their name was...for some reason i wanna
> remember it as "blue bottles" but i'm just not sure and have never heard
> anything about a band called blue bottles since, so  :o(  any thoughts on
> this one from canadian copyists? or do we have a canadian post punk anorak
> award to give out? anyone? i know it's not much to go by. it was 1991. that's
> all i can tell you.

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:07:28 +0200
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] hello again, crispy

> i still wanna know what "the smell of you" smells like


It just stinks!  :-(

Bart

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:14:30 -0700
From: "John M Campbell" 
Subject: [idealcopy] "the smell of you" smells like........

teen spirit , of course
  johnc

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:41:41 +0200
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire#1, Wire#2, Wire#3

Seb:
> How do you compare now Wire#1, Wire#2, Wire#3


Nothing has made such an impact as the first 3 Wire albums at the end of the
70's [but I'm sure that has also something to do with my age back then - 15
in 1978]. 
It was just so very very important... and a strange thing was almost
everybody didn't like it... AT ALL!! Untill I joined this list I could only
share it with my older brother, my best friend and, later on, my girlfriend
[who on our first date told me she really liked Wire and if I had heard of
them! I was... flabbergasted and hooked].

Wire#2 made me very happy in a time when there wasn't much good music around
[pre-pixies I mainly listened to the Jesus & Mary Chain, Nick Cave, Sonic
Youth and the Smiths]. Serious of Snakes, Madman's Honey and Ahead stood
out. Those were my artschool days and Wire fitted in "nicely", with their
Beuys & Bosch obsessions.

Wire#3... well, I'm still a bout de souffle! It gives me a rush of
enthousiasm and energy every time. Comet, Trash/Treasure and Spent are fave.
Can't wait till I'll see them [for the very first time] in november.

Bart

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 04:12:05 EDT
From: Superflyww9@aol.com
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re: 24 hour party People

In a message dated 9/19/02 4:43:16 PM, tim@kidsindestructible.com writes:

<< Anyway, 24 Hour Party People is a very messy film, full of characters that

you could make a fascinating biopic of (Martin Hannett, Shaun Ryder, Ian

Curtis, Rob Gretton)  >>

I like how most people just ignore what is on screen. They have no 
familiarity with MIchael Winterbottom's other films. They have a vague idea 
of a would-be film. Nobody twisted your arm to go see this. If you want to 
see a documentary film, go somewhere else. This is a narrative film. Make 
your own fucking film. I will not bother to see it. Nobody bothered to read 
the book which the film is based on. There's been a lot of dumb rock films 
with lame wigs. That shit has been done. This is another movie. One you have 
ignored.

Alexander

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