From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #315 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, September 17 2002 Volume 05 : Number 315 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Music in the head [Mark McQuitty ] Re: [idealcopy] whatever happened to the teenage dream? ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] (ir)relevance of the Drill ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Re: Milli Vanilli - Boris Becker - Bayern Munich ["Keith Astb] Re: [idealcopy] Wire In Toronto /raises hand ["DAN L ROSE" ] Re: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Burning ExITS ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] 99.9 per cent in disagreement with nice monkey ["Bill Hick" <] [idealcopy] Re: It's your table [Michael Flaherty ] [idealcopy] FAO Dan / and Saturday in Chicago [Hatsephsut@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Getnle Giant and Hawkwind?? ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] TOTP ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Music in the head [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] [idealcopy] Hawkwind?? ["Mrduul" ] Re: [idealcopy] TOTP/botp ["John M Campbell" ] Re: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Daninblack ["Ian B" ] [idealcopy] bloody hell... ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Set your receivers... [Andrew Walkingshaw ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:27:17 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] Music in the head Howard wrote >>> Aha!. Another Dome singer! I find humming 'to speak' very restful. I also am haunted by various Dome tracks. Dome 2 in particular. I don't think a day goes by without 'Reading Prof B' looping endlessly in my head. I've always read the title as 'Reading Professor B' do you agree? What's yr take? Another loop that's in residense in my head is the intro loop from 'Vegas El Bandito' by 23 Skiddoo, strange how just small fragments of music have stayed with me for decades. Anyone else get this? MarkM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:02:19 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Music in the head > 'Reading Professor B Reading Proficiency B - like a school test. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:46:05 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Music in the head MarkB wrote >>> 'Reading Professor B' = Reading Proficiency B - like a school test. Thanks for that Mark. I've always wondered about that. MarkM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:06:49 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] a good idea? Read & burn 1 & 2 look so good (apart from sounding great, obviously) and since there's been a little free gift with each of them I thought a good idea would be to include a slip case with the final one in the series It would be flat pack, designed by david coppenhall (or whatever wire approve of) and it would help to keep the sleeves in good nick yes / no? later A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:51:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] now don't forget...... .......all you guys'n'gals,10:p.m tonite,5:00 p.m Eastern,to listen to the John Peel show @ www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 relax,enjoy,tape,and do an idealcopy to c.d.Ari Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:30:37 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] whatever happened to the teenage dream? played "dandy in the underworld" myself, keith. (oddly enough, while my t-rex collection is a far cry from complete, you'd *think* i'd have a rendition somewhere of "hot love" -- but i don't.) of course, as i've noted before, today being my own birthday, bolan's death occurred the day before i turned 18. "whatever happened to the teenage dream," indeed. & given my family's apparent propensity for dying a day before their birthdays (my mother, her aunt, an old relative in the family graveyard i saw 2 weekends ago) ... oh, never mind. oh, well, back to compiling a tape of first-4-lp stranglers ... the roommate of the friend i'm staying with back home (have decided to run up there for the free pere ubu show after all -- have decided they might trot out a few special things, what with the show being done in conjunction with a friend who's a professor there) has heard nothing before feline or thereabouts. wonder how "bring on the nubiles" or "straighten out" (the "live x cert" version -- beats hell out of the studio version, imho) might go down ... dan >A moments silence please. > >It's 25 years today since Marc Bolan was killed. "What's the matter with our >Keith?" my mum was heard to say before she knew the reason. "He never cries!" > >And whilst I'm in nostalgic mood, I thought I'd just mention what singles - >according to this months Record Collector - were out that month. Seems like >Sept '77 had it's good points too. > >The Adverts - Gary Gilmore's Eyes > >Alberto Y Los Trios Paranoias - Snuff Rock > >Bowie - Heroes > >The Clash - Complete Control > >The Damned - Problem Child > >Iggy Pop - Some Weird Sin/The Passenger > >The Stranglers - No More Heroes > >The Table - Do the Standing Still > >T.Rex - Bolan's Best Plus One e.p. > >And, ahem... > >Yes - Wondrous Stories. > >Pretty impressive list, eh! > >Just treated myself to a listen of Hot Love and Get It On.. Good job I'm going >for a few beers. Otherwise I'd be getting all maudlin listening to Bolan >warble 'Whatever Happened to the Teenage Dream?' ; ) > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:32:19 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Show > Michael Flaherty said... > We spent the > time before the show listening to people try to out-hip each other with how > much they know about Wire (although none seemed aware of R 'n' B 2). Seems like an opportunity for an Annie Hall in the cinema queue type moment. Put the smart-arses in their place Michael! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:38:18 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (ir)relevance of the Drill > As for metal, hasn't Colin ben bigging up Hawkwing and Gentle Giant for a cou > ple of years now.... Gentle Giant - metal? Prog, pretentious, at times Medieval, at times silly. Even punky on Bet You Thought We Couldn't Do It. But metal? Never!!! Keith (getting defensive here!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 07:31:14 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Show >> Michael Flaherty said... > >> We spent the >> time before the show listening to people try to out-hip each other with >how >> much they know about Wire (although none seemed aware of R 'n' B 2). > >Seems like an opportunity for an Annie Hall in the cinema queue type moment. >Put the smart-arses in their place Michael! > >Keith oh, no -- the magic words "annie hall." probably my all-time crush ... my 2nd wife even looked a bit like her. (whereas my subsequent girlfriend rathered favored kim wilde ... & the most recent one looked a tad like eliza dushku. hmmm ...) dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 07:33:54 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (ir)relevance of the Drill >> As for metal, hasn't Colin ben bigging up Hawkwing and Gentle Giant for a >cou >> ple of years now.... > >Gentle Giant - metal? > >Prog, pretentious, at times Medieval, at times silly. > >Even punky on Bet You Thought We Couldn't Do It. > >But metal? > >Never!!! > >Keith (getting defensive here!) wouldn't know gentle giant if they bit me, but that was sure a fine hawkwind remix that colin spun after the metro show a couple of years ago. (i spent the entire gig up in the balcony with the swells, btw. oddly enough, that marked my first imbibement of the beverage known as long island iced tea, not repeated till sat night.) hawkwind's quark strangeness & charm was the first import lp i ever bought ... still absolutely adore the title track. dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:43:26 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: It's your table voyteck... > yelling "another the Keith" between numbers as an IC member (perhaps > Robert Lynn) homing beacon. Even tho 1st in the void shouting "another > the Keith" several times on both left / right main & balconys, no > response. Ah. So that's where the Another The Keith attended the Chicago gig rock myth came from. Excellent! Another The Keith must be tickled pink that someone was shouting his name all the way across the pond! Keith NP The Coral (can I just give this another quick plug. I love this album!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:48:00 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Show > & the most recent one looked a tad like eliza > dushku. hmmm ...) > > dan for one horrible moment I thought you said your most recent one looked like Tad ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:56:24 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Smash Hits to The Dome > Howard > Unfortunately the magazine took a bit of a nosedive and finally folded, I > think about five or six years ago. Didn't know it had packed up. It was certainly still going a couple of years ago, because my daughter had it on order before 'progressing' to Sugar! You're right about the nosedive though. I used to have a look sometimes, and it was awful. Bore no resemblance to the early 80's version that featured the likes of Cope, Smith, Mac on the cover. I still recall the section where a 'pop star' would pick his all-time fave song and the mag would print the lyrics. Robert Smith picked The Eternal! So there in this cute little teeny rag were Curtis hardly laugh-a-minute lines about his garden. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:47:40 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Smash Hits to The Dome Smash Hits: I remember the Swell Maps debut Trip to Marineville getting 9/10 by Red Star in Smash Hits. Also, a double page feature/interview with Crass. John >From: "Tim" >To: , >Subject: [idealcopy] Smash Hits to The Dome >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:11:03 +0100 > >Howard Says: > > > > Got into Dome in 1981 or 1982 - bought Dome2 on the strength of a review >in > > Smash Hits (surprisingly good UK teenybopper magazine - I was 15 or 16 >at >the > > time so it's allowed). > >Dome reviewed in Smash Hits?! Actually that's not that surprising. > >Fantastic. Does anyone still have the review? > > > >Smash Hits was (and may still be...ask yer kids) a wonderful magazine, and >they did love to slip in the occasional bit of indie subversion. I still >have somewhere a folder full of treasured Cocteau Twins, Smiths and New >Order articles. > >While they obviously pandered to the poplings, it was all done very >tongue-in-cheek for the older kids (like saturday morning kids TV shows). > >I believe it was SH who first coined the word 'Frightwig' in reference to >Tina Turner. And of course Paul McCartney will be forever known as >Fab-Macca-Wacky-Thumbs-Aloft in this house, > >And of course it was once the home of an excellent, albeit rather geeky >looking Journalist by the name of Neil Tennant! http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:03:23 +0100 From: "Fergus Kelly" Subject: [idealcopy] Set your receivers... Yeah, I know, most people will probably have remembered this, but for those who haven't, Wire session on Peel tonight... get those cassettes and hard drives at the ready ! Tonight is also also Lol Coxhill's 70th birthday gig... supported by all the heavyweights of the UK improv scene... bloody hell, I wish I was in London... Fergus _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:28:01 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Milli Vanilli - Boris Becker - Bayern Munich Glad you've finally replied Frank. I was worried that you'd taken these good humoured messages the wrong way! > > And then there's Boris Becker... > > The most pathetic, brainless, crap talking sport celebrity > over here. but in his defence, he did used to win things. And apparently he wasn't averse to the odd quickie in a cupboard ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:17:30 -0400 From: "DAN L ROSE" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire In Toronto /raises hand Did somebody mention the new Cronenberg movie??!! How was it?? Date sent: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:35:40 -0500 From: p o d s i x To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire In Toronto /raises hand > >Who was there from the list. I was expecting to run into someone. > > > >Eric in Toronto (I was the guy in the navy blue Emigre t-shirt jumping > >around madly stage right) > > > > > Eric - > > I was there. Econochrist t-shirt and Steam Whistle in hand. Advantage > in Height was the high point for me, Reuters was pretty special, but I > can't say they really blew me away or anything. The folks who I went > with all seemed to get a lot more out of it than I did. Guess I > should've doubled my meds or something. Anyhow, I bought myself a > t-shirt and CD and awoke this morning with a terrible headache and a > plane to catch. I was in town for the film festival actually, rebooked > the flight home to see Wire. > > New Cronenberg movie 0wnz. > > -sam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:16:50 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Milli Vanilli - Boris Becker - Bayern Munich In a message dated 9/17/02 8:18:27 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << quickie in a cupboard >> great name for a band or a song! RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:49:51 -0400 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not todays guardian describes the peel show as "cutting edge music. plus a session from wire". ouch! meanwhile on TOTP2 tonight a bolan special featuring "every song ever recorded for the program". might be of interest too i guess. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:13:40 -0700 From: "John M Campbell" Subject: [idealcopy] Peel tonite ok I'm here at Peel's homepage and I see&read the Wire blub. Temperature rising fingers fidgiting over the keyboard.......NOW WHAT?! How do I make the Peel Session stream outta th' box? cheers, johnc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:48:23 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not > meanwhile on TOTP2 tonight a bolan special featuring "every song ever recorded for the program". though this should of course read "every song ever recorded for the programme that the BBC didn't wipe". Bitter? Me? Surely not... Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:02:21 -0400 From: Hatsephsut@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] FAO Dan And Saturday in Chicago I hope no one minds if I wish Dan a happy and excellent birthday - cheers, my beloved friend and since I've popped in, I should say I wasn't being rude and avoiding or ignoring anyone or the show on Saturday in Chicago - the first time I heard the date I realized it was my Dad's 80th Birthday on September 14 - but then I realized it was only his 79th, so I was very excited and happy and was going to make big plans for meeting up etc - but, as life would have it, something personal came up kind of suddenly and I had to go to LA this weekend instead - even so, it wasn't all bad - much as I would have loved seeing Wire, and more so getting together with you guys, I have to admit it wasn't a chore to see the Buzzcocks while I was there - and no, I didn't catch Sex Pistols, and I didn't catch Social D, or any of the other bands (although I heard some of them for a while) - I was only there for a few hours in the evening really, got there pretty much just before Buzzcocks and left before Pistols - was there just long enough for someone very drunk to ask me if I was their (Buzzcocks) mother, and that was enough for me *L (of course it was a joke.....at least I HOPE it was...it WAS after he told me I looked like someone he could talk to because I was an older woman!! I don't know Dan, you reckon I'm finally getting paid back for all the cracks on BC list about Pete's age?) Laurel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:00:37 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Show At 01:32 PM 9/17/02 +0100, you wrote: >> Michael Flaherty said... > >> We spent the >> time before the show listening to people try to out-hip each other with >how >> much they know about Wire (although none seemed aware of R 'n' B 2). > >Seems like an opportunity for an Annie Hall in the cinema queue type moment. >Put the smart-arses in their place Michael! > >Keith Naw. It was kind of funny though. The most basic facts presented with serious, Professor-like authority. MF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:10:40 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Burning ExITS Last night in Manchester over 100 people had a listen to WIRE's Read & Burn 02 very loud. When you put a gig on you get to choose the music to play between the bands, unless the bands have some music they particularly want to play, so whilst Explosions in the Sky got ready there was enough time to get the first 4 R&B02 tracks in. It was pretty good to hear it blasting out of big PA! Explosions started up as the intro to 'Raft Ants' was faded which sounded pretty effective. After they played I started up the CD from 'Nice Streets' to finish. So 'Nice Streets' got 2 spins. The last track of the evening was '99.9.' Also gave everyone a preview of first and third tracks from the awesome new Godspeed album Yanqui U.X.O. (released in UK Nov4) between b.fab-U.K. / Snail Racing / Green Acre. People poured in over a Boards of Canada background. b.fab-U.K. (www.bfab.co.uk) were playing what might be their last ever gig, certainly the last before drum machiner Catriona has her baby. Sadly I missed most of it as I was too busy taking fivers at the door and sorting out technical rider amp borrowing things downstairs with the two headlining bands who'd both arrived very late (so no soundchecks for them!). The most memorable track was a full band arrangement of one that singer Tom often performs solo with his mike run through lots of effects pedals. At the end they seemed to kick up quite a big atonal guitar storm, which isn't something I've heard them do very often. A few people seemed confused, others thought it the best they'd seen them. Snail Racing were the only band to soundcheck, and were down by one bassist who couldn't make the gig. They play gently ebbing and flowing precision rock from the post-Slint environs. Two bassist / singers from Solanki and Month of Birthdays and drummer from Bilge Pump / Polaris pull together calmly impressive beauty from the hardcore wreckage. Perhaps they're most similar to Month of Birthdays, who share a singer. I'd never even heard this band before but we'd asked them to play on the strength of their previous bands, knowing that what they'd do would be well worth hearing. This proved to be so. Green Acre from Grimsby and Explosions in the Sky from Austin, Texas had both turned up late but were fine without soundchecking, both playing their second gigs I'd witnessed and both surpassing themselves. Both bands have two guitars, bass, drums, but created very different yet complimentary emotive atmospheres. Green Acre are kind of joyous and energetic whereas Explosions have a more slowburning apocalyptic energy. Some of Green Acre's guitar playing has a ringing uplifting quality that might hint at an African guitar pop influence? Lee who co-promoted the gig with me compared them to Braid, so I gave Braid a listen but thought Green Acre seemed much more interesting. The singer has this big open mouth holler that seems fueled by pure joy. Explosions in the Sky are hard to mention without bringing up the obvious Mogwai and godspeed similarities. They play with similar dynamics, building slow dark momentum and then going over the top with tidal wave crescendos. At times they play calm and reflective hades float but accelerate to exhilarating rollercoaster rides powered along by military snare rolls. There is no singing. There doesn't need to be with music this effective at communicating hopeful flames burning out cold dark oppressive doldrums. They played about half of their second album, and quite a lot of new tracks which suggest the third album will maintain their momentum or maybe up the ante. Even though they played for over an hour it seemed to fly by like less than forty minutes. It was a busy night in Manchester - Microphones and TransElement were playing at different venues on Oldham Steet and Kosmische DJs were up from London for a spin at Band on the Wall. Bynatone were playing a free gig at the Roadhouse. This made it all the more pleasing that the Star and Garter was pretty much full. Some people who'd just watched Microphones managed to make it to the Star and Garter just before ExITS played. www.explosionsinthesky.com They play London this evening. They'll be touring the USA throughout October. Check out the dates at http://www.temporaryresidence.com/www/trl_html/tours.htm Hear sound samples from their album here http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv04i42.html Their album is distributed by Cargo in the UK. You can get it mail order from www.normanrecords.com WIRE Peel Session Radio 1 10pm tonight Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Circus Lupus - Solid Brass (Dischord) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:04:09 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] 99.9 per cent in disagreement with nice monkey Michael transcribed some WIRE words >>Spent >exiled in paradise Eggbert sin paradise ie. naughty man filling boulevards w/cut price snow Anyone going to see the new Fall tribute band (impressions of Jim Temperance) fronted by Mark Eggbert Smith? >>Nice Street Above >nice streets, the nice streets, the nice streets above (repeated over and over with some colin ad-libbing thrown in between) Here Colin sings a backmasked Satanic ode of chortling regret that a young Roman woman mistook his Patterns of Behaviour as resembling Morrissey. The missing words might be: Doom era devil Toodle e dip Tamara tipple Do level dip Note possible unintentional intonation congruent in some aspects with the fictional tongue Wurzelese. However a reliable informant has stated that the vocal is based on a sample from a live Drill. >>99.9 >face never skirted sense Fate never skirted sense? >man has a wooden master >chewing makes you anxious This line was formerly 'Chewing lead makes you anxious' They dropped the lead. Gilbert acts this line out quite a bit these days! >monkey neglected the needle Mark E neglected to noodle? Murky neglected the need-uh? Manky neglected the nerd ha! (maybe not) >pulsating venus on my sonar Forsaking Venus off my sonar? >a cord in temptation, bi-symmetry Accorded temptation by symmetry? >in event of lightning striking twice >the road ahead looks quite uncertain.... >(drums kick in - whole verse is repeated) >near the end colin seems to say: "at night you sprain me, only you only you only you" right before the drums kick in again. Could be 'strain me.' Note parallels with the master cutting the stone out in Madman's Honey and the monkey caught stealing in Ahead. Are these the same characters further along the road to doom? Wooden masters will be razed by tiny flames (disobey) Cutting the stone is futile without sculpture (Feeling the strain not supporting the action) Also note another uninvited parallel with lyrical strikes already hit by the Clash - I Don't Understand (Career Opportunities) - Lightning Striking Twice also gave the title to some song off Sandinista! Of course both WIRE and the Clash said 'Oi' before that word spawned a genre. >>>one last thing - has anyone heard the new split single by erase errata and the numbers? real killer "no wave" style stuff, but more notably, the 55 second numbers track "palo alto" randomly starts chanting "drill drill drill dugga dugga dugga" right in the middle for no apparent reason. a curio. These things happen so often - prior to going to see Mudhoney play for the umpteenth time last week, I was listening to their song 'When Tomorrow Hits.' As the song finishes, Mark Arm quietly mutters, "That's the Lowdown." Haven't heard this EP, but I'll be going to see Erase Errata when they play here in a couple of weeks. A friend of mine is promoting the gig and the mighty Bilge Pump of Leeds 6 are supporting and you don't miss Bilge Pump when they're in town unless you're a total dipshit knownothing. "Sling yer'ook!" Meanwhile WIRE roll into the home town of the Brainwashed Brain and Chris Brokaw tonight and their session will be broadcast by John Peel. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:59:59 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: It's your table >From: rayographique >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] It's your table > >all the old geezers were at the balcony tables Yep. That's me. Although it really is true that when you're under 5'5" (my wife) there are very few "good spots" at the Metro. >michael - did you note the chap behind u? >i was the fellow in the orange shirt who said hi to >him Which direction? Are you sure it was me he was behind? Well, I guess it doesn't matter as I didn't see you either way .... Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:18:29 EDT From: Hatsephsut@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] FAO Dan / and Saturday in Chicago I hope no one minds if I wish Dan a happy and excellent birthday - cheers, my beloved friend and since I've popped in, I should say I wasn't being rude and avoiding or ignoring anyone or the show on Saturday in Chicago - the first time I heard the date I realized it was my Dad's 80th Birthday on September 14 - but then I realized it was only his 79th, so I was very excited and happy and was going to make big plans for meeting up etc - but, as life would have it, something personal came up kind of suddenly and I had to go to LA this weekend instead - even so, it wasn't all bad - much as I would have loved seeing Wire, and more so getting together with you guys, I have to admit it wasn't a chore to see the Buzzcocks while I was there - and no, I didn't catch Sex Pistols, and I didn't catch Social D, or any of the other bands (although I heard some of them for a while) - I was only there for a few hours in the evening really, got there pretty much just before Buzzcocks and left before Pistols - was there just long enough for someone very drunk to ask me if I was their (Buzzcocks) mother, and that was enough for me *L (of course it was a joke.....at least I HOPE it was...it WAS after he told me I looked like someone he could talk to because I was an older woman!! I don't know Dan, you reckon I'm finally getting paid back for all the cracks on BC list about Pete's age?) Laurel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:13:10 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Getnle Giant and Hawkwind?? Coincidentally I just bought Hawkwind's 'Doremi' for a fiver at London's new FOPP shop (difficult not to spend a fortune in there - so much so cheap). Probably said this here before but Hawkwind really were the goods in the early 70s, a thrilling swirling mix of noise with an SF lyrical bent: how could I resist them? I saw them live four or five times back then and many of these magogs would be mentioned in my final gig reckoning ( I can feel a new religion coming on here where you're only let into the Republic of Heaven if you've seen the right concerts). another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrduul To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:39 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Getnle Giant and Hawkwind?? > > Of course he has.2 of the landmark bands of the 70's in my humble > opinion.The > > Thousand CD Knots various artists take is a commendable effort.Saw both > > Hawkwind & GG live.Gentle Giant were brilliant prog rock, yet, as they > > ridiculed themselves, pretentious.Awesome individual musicians with a > drummer > > in John Weathers to die for.Check out the music.Best way to make your own > > mind up. > > If they brought out Silver Machine now it would still be a hit. > > Chris (been to the pub). > ------I'm really really enjoying this list. Glad I joined. > -frank duul > waiting for the inevitable PFM and ELP thread ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:37:56 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire In Toronto /raises hand Spider is not out in the UK yet, but in a review in Film Comment Amy Taubin gave it a rave and it subsequently turned up in her top ten films of all time list in Sight and Sound's 10-yearly poll of international critics. So it sounds promising. [ If anyone's interested and hasn't heard of it, Film Comment has been for my money the best magazine published on film for the past 20 years. It's published by the Lincoln Centre in New York and is devilishly difficult to track down. Despite having a sterling price printed on the cover, in London I know of only three places that stock it and two of them are Borders's bookshop. I couldn't find it very readily in the US when I looked for it either. It's prohibitively expensive to subscribe from the UK unfortunately. It's articles are well-written, informed, free of jargon and crap jokes, adult, witty and usually right - just what I want from a film mag. ] another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: DAN L ROSE To: Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire In Toronto /raises hand > Did somebody mention the new Cronenberg movie??!! How was > it?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:42:37 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not 
enjoyed the bolan thing tho. high spot for me was the later "bloated era" 
stuff (sorry keith) which don't get played too often. low spot was the 
keyboard player's comb-over , hardly a surprise he put a tea cosy on for the 
final number :-) p

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:57 -0700
From: "Paul Pietromonaco" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Looks like Peel is running late...

Hi everyone,
	Listening on-line right now.  Seems the Mercury Prize is running long?  
	So, Peel anytime between now and 10:30, right?
	Cheers,
	Paul


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 Brain:  Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?

 Pinky:  Umm, I think so, Brain, but what if the 
         chicken won't wear the nylons?

 Paul Pietromonaco
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:05:49 +0100
From: "ian.s. jackson" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TOTP

>Just witnessed edition 2000 of TOTP on BBC America. Please bring back 
>Jools!
>Status Quo?
>Sheesh.............................................johnc

aye pal, don't knock The Quo, their new single is class...and a hit over 
here...

oh and fuck Jools...

cheers, ian.s.j.

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:08:28 +0100
From: "ian.s. jackson" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TOTP

Tim on TOTP (he wishes...)
>TOTP was was usually manned by the pop-a-dab-a-dopulous Radio 1 DJ's of the
>day (and sometimes by a deadpan and somwhat reluctant John Peel, to much
>hilarity. I seem to recall him, mid 80s,  introduce one track by saying "If
>this isn't number one next week I'll come round and break wind in your
>kitchen" or words to that effect.)

and also...introducing Big Country...'here's the band that put the tree back 
in country...' which he got away with apparently...

ian.s.j.

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:39:58 EDT
From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Music in the head

I played the drums in a former life.The drum pattern to the last track on 
Another Music In A Different Kitchen by The Buzzcocks has stayed with me for 
25 years.Fantastic.wished I'd dreamt that up.
  Chris 

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:52:41 -0400
From: "Mrduul" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Hawkwind??

> Coincidentally I just bought Hawkwind's 'Doremi' for a fiver at London's
new
> FOPP shop (difficult not to spend a fortune in there - so much so cheap).
> Probably said this here before but Hawkwind really were the goods in the
> early 70s, a thrilling swirling mix of noise with an SF lyrical bent: how
> could I resist them?
- ----I've always been a sucker for Hall of the Mountain Grill from 1974.
Simon King's pounding drums....gooey Mellotron.....flanged
everything....Lemmy's Rickenbacker growl....like Family on PCP.

- -fd

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:13:32 -0700
From: "John M Campbell" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TOTP/botp

fuck Jools, be my guest. My point was he had some decent material on his
show and the format didn't suck.
Quo? I don't think they made much of an impression here in the US for better
or for worse. I've no opinion of 'em, while I did hear of 'em the TOTP thing
was the first I ever heard
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "ian.s. jackson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TOTP


> >Just witnessed edition 2000 of TOTP on BBC America. Please bring back
> >Jools!
> >Status Quo?
> >Sheesh.............................................johnc
>
> aye pal, don't knock The Quo, their new single is class...and a hit over
> here...
>
> oh and fuck Jools...
>
> cheers, ian.s.j.
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:52:39 +0100
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] hooray for bbc....or not

> 
enjoyed the bolan thing tho. high spot for me was the later "bloated
era"
> stuff (sorry keith) which don't get played too often. low spot was the
> keyboard player's comb-over , hardly a surprise he put a tea cosy on for
the
> final number :-) p

Ah yes. The delectably named Dino Dines, who I'm afraid I once mobbed
(Manchester 1976). He did a very good impersonation of someone who couldn't
speak English, though I suspect this was more to avoid getting into a
conversation with a very excitable 15 yr old and his mates, rather than any
real shortcomings in the English language.

But you're right the tea cosy was a good move. As was the basebal cap that
accompanied his shaving his beard off for the ITV Marc show a few months
later.

Shame the Beeb wiped some of the performances - especially that Teeneage
Dream performance where Bolan rose up from the ground on a star. Interesting
fact here. Depending on how much Bolan had upset the roadies, governed how
much 'spring' they put in the star. One day he'd been a real twat, so they
sprung it as hard as they could. So instead of rising slowly he was
effectively catapulted across the stage!

Keith

NP Peel of course. Three down...

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:47:54 +0100
From: "Ian B" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TOTP

- ----- Original Message -----
From: ian.s. jackson 

> and also...introducing Big Country...'here's the band that put the tree
back
> in country...' which he got away with apparently...
>
> ian.s.j.
>
One of the rare occassions Mark Lamarr raised a smile over here was in his
comment about Stuart Adamson (?) "who the went on to become a Big Country
member, and we all *do* remember."
Puerile but good.

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:17:40 +0100
From: "Ian B" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Daninblack

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: dan bailey 
> oh, well, back to compiling a tape of first-4-lp stranglers ... 
> dan
> 
Curious to know your final line-up for this tape Dan.
Ian B
PS - also interested to hear how the Ubu show turns out

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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:06:29 +0100
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: [idealcopy] bloody hell...

Hey. I just got a mention on Peel!!!!

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:57:36 +0100
From: Andrew Walkingshaw 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Set your receivers...

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:03:23PM +0100, Fergus Kelly wrote:
> Yeah, I know, most people will probably have remembered this, but for those 
> who haven't, Wire session on Peel tonight... get those cassettes and hard 
> drives at the ready !

... and Keith got a namecheck from John Peel. :)

I guess there'll be singing in the valleys tonight...

- - Andrew

- -- 
"Everybody helps me make my own mistakes;
 but left alone, I'd make them anyway."
  - Mansun, "Inverse Midas" ('Six')
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ari Britt 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] bloody hell...

WE KNOW!!!!!!!! we 'eard it,I am disappointed,the 'on line' show missed the first 35 minutes for some frigging award ceremony so missed the first wire number,just gonna hafta redo it all tomorrow 'less someone else has it on tape?(in which case I can burn it to c.d........Ari
 Keith Astbury wrote:Hey. I just got a mention on Peel!!!!

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