From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #306 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, September 12 2002 Volume 05 : Number 306 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Hey Jaime!..../Hi Scott [SSSSSSS ] [idealcopy] opener for the denver show ["Paul Ye" ] Re: [idealcopy] 9-11? what about the other 364 days? [SSSSSSS ] Re: [idealcopy] R&B 2.3 [Bart van Damme ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: SSSSSSS Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Hey Jaime!..../Hi Scott JAIME!!! BABY!!! So glad to see you here! I'm still trying to get into the conversation too, though I am not as familiar with WIRE as some of the folks here, but I'm trying. Going to see them in a few days so I'm gonna get a crash course in WIRE. Also have to listen to all the cd's I have by them and re-familiarize myself with the tuneage. Today hasnt been a good day (check out email I sent you.) Anyway, glad you're here. Hope all is well with you and your kiddies. Ari.....did you get my request (check your Yahoo IM offline messages.) and to all a good night............ - -scott- Ari Britt wrote:jaime janzen wrote:From: "jaime janzen" Thanks for the welcome. Hello Scott. Sorry about missing your party, Ari, but I just couldn't get away from the children. Maybe you can make it to my birthday.Jaime ----- Original Message -----From: Ari BrittSent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:02 PMTo: jaime janzenSubject: Re: [idealcopy] Hey Jaime!.... jaime janzen wrote: Sorry. I'm trying to catch up on the conversations here. Hello everybody. Welcome indeed,you'll soon get the hang of this site,not like the (now) boring shriekback site eh Scottkins-private joke for shriek listers) NICE to see another female on the list even if you're not coming to my party...... still there's always next year Ari > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! - We Remember >9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost _________________________________________________________________ Join the worldbs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost - --------------------------------- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Shriek at the world and the world shrieksback http://www.shriekback.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost "It is a rare man who won't tamper with perfection." - Carl Marsh vIsIt Me @ http://atlringz.tripod.com/ Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: SSSSSSS Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R&B 2.3 Ah, Bart, you know Ari pretty well then (he he he....) Bart van Damme wrote:>> Thnx guys, when can I start making withdrawals then? :-P > Soon as she's had enough!!!!!!!(you asked for that one Bart)Ari You dirty dirty old man Ari! ;-) Bart "It is a rare man who won't tamper with perfection." - Carl Marsh vIsIt Me @ http://atlringz.tripod.com/ Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:37:15 -0600 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] opener for the denver show The Opener for the Denver Show was a local band called "Reno Divorce". If no one mentions the name ever it won't be enough. I didn't think there was enough beer in the joint to cure their horrible songs. Did Graham blow his bass amp in every other show??? Props to those who got to hear "Advantage in Height". I was not so fortunate. Late. Paulye154 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:13:48 -0700 (PDT) From: SSSSSSS Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 9-11? what about the other 364 days? Alot of what you said I do agree with, but in the words of my father, "whether we like it or not, in times like this, you HAVE to back the home team", and I do. I didnt vote for George W and I sure don't agree with his republican asswipe bullshit, but I still stand behind the country I live in, cause frankly, I really dont think any other place on the earth would be that much better, just different. I read an article recently written by a Tampa Bay newspaper reporter that stated (paraphrasing) "we are losing our own culture adapting to the rest of the world's." I totally agree with that as much as I live and breathe. I an't go into a business in Atlanta and know for sure that the person serving me is going to understand a word I say. I am constantly bombarded with masssive culture attack in my own backyard and I am really sick and tired of feeling like a monority and an outsider in my own country. There are certain aspects of my life that make me a minority, but I don't feel! like I should be remined of it every f***ing time I go grocery shopping or get gas or stop at Mcdonald's for an egg-mcmuffin or have to be told WHERE I can vote in our elections or what should or shouldnt be said in our Pledge of Allegiance or what God I should believe in or because I'm single and dont have 2.3 children and dog and a house with a 2 car garage that I am not "worth the effort." What ever happenned to letting the people run the country? I say let the leaders duke it out in a ring and see who kicks who's ass then. And who gave the United States the power to run the entire world (off on a tangent)? why dont we worry about our own backyard instead of every one in the world's. There ARE 364 other days of the year where people are doing wonderful things for each other, not because they have to or because they have an obligation to, but because they WANT to, because it SHOULD be human nature to WANT to. Americans, Afghans, Asians......God dammit, we are all people, ! human beings and if we dont watch our step (humans, NOT Ameri! cans) there isnt going to be much of a future for anyone on the planet. Lets fuck up the atmosphere, steal from our neighbors, kill, murder, embezzel, lie, because what's the difference? Why does it take a war, YEAH this is a f***ing war, to make us all see we're ALL acting like asses, not just the leaders. I wonder how the man in Seattle felt when, because he was wearing a turban, was escorted off an airplane because he made the rest of the passengers uneasy? GIve pilots guns? Shit, we can't even get them to stop drinking, and now we should give them guns? Why not just give all the passengers guns? All of this evident (and some it totally absurd), I still stand behind the home team. (I hope this hasnt given anyone the wrong impression of me--Ari/Jaime, you know me too well--but I had to reply to this an get what's been troubling me all day out and see how others feel.) - ---expecting (but hoping not to get) sever tongue lashings RLynn9@aol.com wrote:I can't take much more....i have been seeing and hearing a bunch of "patriotic" crap ALL day long.....Yes, the 3,000 deaths on 9-11 ARE a terrible loss..BUT what about the other 364 days a year that violence is perpetrated the world over? and YES, AMERIKKKA is indeed responsible for a large share of it.(either directly, indirectly, or secretly)...As an Amerikkkan it amazes me how willfully blind and IGNORANT most of us are....If this country is so goddamned "free" and "democratic" then why the hell aren't we allowed to vote whether we want to go to war with Iraq? It would only take one day..just like the presidental election (and maybe even Florida wouldn't fuck this up). Why is it up to our filthy president and congress to decide if we kill people? That bastard is just using this proposed "war" with Iraq to redraw the map of the middle-east for our own greedy interests in oil AND to draw attention away from the fact that he can't bring Osama Bin Laden to justice...what a fucking joke....Funny how we use the excuse that: "we must attack Iraq to keep Saddam Hussein from using weapons of mass destruction ! " Why didn't we do that to big bad Russia? I'll tell you why; because we only pick on and bully people that we think we can beat easily...but maybe we should have learned our lesson in Viet Nam....i'm sick of all the "greatest nation in the world" talk..Amerikkkans can't get it through their thick skulls that NOBODY asked or appointed us to police the world...We decided that we should be the police because we think we are better than everyone else..and the WORLD hates us for that...most countries do not want our military presence on their soil...When will we wise up and get the hell out of most of these countries? As a so-called super-power we should help bring peace to the world but otherwise stay the hell out of everyone's business..All we do is make it worse, due to our own greedy interests...This day is making me ill...with all the stupid, faux-sentimental and insincere bullshit...in typical Amerikkkan $$$$$$ fashion every frigging radio and television station is using this day to sell something....another reason the world hates us...it's always about the almighty $$$$$$$ ..no matter how insensitive and in bad taste and no matter who we have to trample to get it...i am also sick (and furious) of the way the media (and amerikkkans in general) portray all muslims, palestinians, arabs, and middle-eastern people in general to be "evil" i am so fucking sick of that word; "EVIL"....PEOPLE the world over WANT basically the same things: safety for their families..a place to LIVE...to be FREE...to have HUMAN RIGHTS. Some do drastic things to achieve those ends..we should not hold entire races, creeds, or religions responsible for that....otherwise, we should hate and condemn all Germans...or the Italians..or the Greeks..or the British ...or better yet, we should hate ourselves here in Amerikkka for what we did to the innocent people from Africa that we dragged over here to slave and do our work for us....Remember the millions of innocent people we killed in Japan?? You remember, when WE ushered in the use of atomic warfare? THE same atomic warfare that we are afraid of now! Why does nobody scream in horror about the millions of innocents that we killed? Using the logic of the USA we should have just killed the leaders of Japan...We were warned to get our noses out of certain places and we didn't...Once we got in too deep we could have cleaned up several terrorist factions and we didn't..so what does anyone expect? Terrorists have figured out what most countries have not..and that is: They can't match us in military strength so they will do things from the inside...Unfortunately, for those poor people in those buildings and planes.. Thank you for bearing with me while i blew off some steam. To all of the families and friends of the deceased on 9-11 as well as every Palestinian and Jew and everyone the world over who has ever lost a loved one, i send my condolences....and exercising my right to free speech in this wonderful and free country of America: A big FUCK YOU to all the greedy, insensitive, opportunistic, blind sheep who keep this country fucked up..and who never want to take responsibilty for any of their own (or their country's) actions... How many will have to die and suffer before we get off OUR asses and get our shit together? Robert Lynn "It is a rare man who won't tamper with perfection." - Carl Marsh vIsIt Me @ http://atlringz.tripod.com/ Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:53:55 -0700 From: "John M Campbell" Subject: [idealcopy] SSSSSSS? Ahem, since there is, for better or for worse, only one of you, you are a minority - get used to it. Perhaps you could consider what people mean rather than what they say. Since i'm not familiar with the ethnicity of SSSSSSS I cannot say with certainty that your ancestors arrived on this shore speaking my brilliantly accent free english so I won't go into the issue of culture loss based on dialect. I do assume you were born here so I'm obliged point out that we're here, amigo, by accident. Sheesh, don't do business in Atlanta if it's a problem - have someone do your shopping my dear fellow. Seriously though, I think the rest of the world is getting the short end of the stick if we're going to talk about losing culture. The world is only sending ambitious foreignors think of what we're giving the world. Cheers, johnc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:39:23 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R&B 2.3 SSSSSSS: > Ah, Bart, you know Ari pretty well then (he he he....) Sure... I've seen pictures of his back porch!!! ;-) Bart ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #306 *******************************