From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #297 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, September 5 2002 Volume 05 : Number 297 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Birmingham Frequencies ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] She is Beyond ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] st arkansas ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper ["John Roberts" ] [idealcopy] AARGH. [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] road tripping [Tisbili@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Re: [Shriekback_Digital_Conspiracy] Sorry,this'll work/pt 1.1 ["Eric Klaver" ] Re: [idealcopy] She is Beyond [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] R n B 2 [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome [Miles Goosens ] [idealcopy] Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 ["Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Birmingham Frequencies > Here's a question for y'all, what's the most unusual gig/event venue > attended? > > > MarkM Hey! Reply ON TOPIC! Taken in it's entirity, the Wire RFH Gig. Old footage, a white dot endlessly dancing across a screen, some bloke in uniform waving from the balcony, Michael Clarke writhing across the stage, middle class heckling, four old blokes playing a blinder. Pretty bizarre gig, all in all... Couple of moments from other gigs that this has reminded me of... Teardrop Explodes, Club Zoo winter season, Liverpool 1981. A drugged up, space out, pissed off Julian Cope - just back from filming the Xmas TOTP - telling the audience to stop being so 'sanctimonious' (cue crowd cheering!) and walking off in a huff. Nico, Deeside Futurama 1982, starting to coming back on stage for an encore only to find that Dead Or Alive were starting their set on the second stage. The poor wench looked gutted as she looked into the audience from the wings, desperately wanting to come back on - but the hi-energy intro to Misty Circles continued and the audience gradually turned their attention away from her. My mate - a big Nico fan - looked as devastated as her. As for me - well I was just glad that the endless bloody drone had finished. A very pretty man in make-up gyrating on stage was altogether better entertainment IMHO ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:59:15 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] road trip music i know everybody out there has been waiting with bated breath to learn what an idealcopyist listens to during a marathon labor day weekend drive for a family reunion (in which he [a] learns that his father's parents were not only cousins, as previously known, but *first*cousins, [b] sees his father's grave for the first time ever, a mere 35 years after his death, [c] consults a perpetual calendar & confirms that he totaled his car in south la. precisely *13* years after said father's death, [d] learns that the whole clan left barbour co., ala, a few dozen miles south of here [montgomery] in the late 1800s & thus probably -- esp. with the cousins-married thing -- is related to everybody in that small place, which would include george fucking wallace ... & would also explain his preternatural liking for "sweet home alabama", * [e] discovers that his grandparents' first child was born in montgomery ... probably it was fate that i wound up here, not that i'm very happy about it, [f] picks up at lr's main punk shop a cdr by his next-to-last girlfriend, who'd been in a couple of bands in college in the late '80s, & [g] is exposed for the first time at his friend's house fischer-spooner's sumptuous version of the 15th, hears his friend's account of said band's striking performance on the ep's next track [emerge? something like that] on totp while said friend was in england for all tomorrow's parties, the bastard), goes to sleep & wakes up the final night/morning to the strains of the pop group's y [a little less ... raucous? ... than for how much longer & we are time had led me to expect, somehow], & hears for the first time the yeah yeah yeahs ep [which i subsequently picked up at the aforementioned small punk shop] ... anyway, where in the name of god was i? oh, yeah -- i've got only a car tape player (for which i'm properly thankful, mind you -- my previous car's deck went out in 9/90). tapes played during the drive to & from little rock, sw ark, northern la. & montgomery -- frank tovey -- snakes & ladders (wire ref: colin played drums on at least a couple of tracks, n'est-ce pas?) fad gadget -- greatest hits, incontinent, fireside favourites scars -- author author gas -- emotional warfare dillinger four -- non-lp tracks tweezers -- already! fall -- extricate (better than i remembered) sonic youth -- experimental jet set (not as good as i remembered) david bowie -- friend's comp of '69-'82 tracks kmfdm -- uaioe (a couple of years before they hit their stride, i decided) danse society -- heaven is waiting, seduction swingin' utters -- uncompiled (at least at the time the tape was dubbed in the mid-'90s) tracks 16 horsepower -- secret south, ep tracks brian eno -- here come the warm jets kevin dunn & the regiment of women -- judgment of paris dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 04:13:47 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] She is Beyond robert -- must be a mistranlsation here or something, unless you've been trading with andrew morgan of little rock, ark, who's the friend with whom i stayed & who's the one who found y for $6 at the used shop where i dropped some (cough) $332.43 tue morning before heading back to alabama, though indeed he doesn't own a burner (as neither do i). i've actually had y on tape for some 20 years, but tapes don't last forever, of course. really must acquired myself a burner. i promised somebody on this list -- ian jackson? -- a copy of iaitb ages ago, but my girlfriend-at-the-time never got around to copying it (though at least i've got mine back), & somebody else -- keith astbury? -- a burn of the apparently obscure t. rex tribute resurrection of the warlock, only to have my assistant day editor split up with his boyfriend (the burner owner) before one could be burned, though luckily the disc itself didn't go to mobile with the ex. which reminds me -- whoever sent me a burn of the disc with the 2 benny profane albums (i could dig up the name but am frankly too pressed for time & energy to go digging back in my e-mails) is hereby profusely thanked. great stuff. btw -- one reason i'm running so late & so fatigued, robert, is that after for once getting out of the office at a halfway decent hour, i had to run back in (one of the bad things about living only 10 mins away) upon learning that st louis co cops had cornered in a fenton motel 6 a suspect {who subsequently killed himsef) in the shootings of 2 cops here 2 weeks ago. so i was put in another 2 1/2 hours working with the night editor because the night cops reporter had gone home with a cold (jesus -- in myyyyyyy day not even walking pneumonia could get me to miss a minute of work) to make phone calls, coordinate with the st louis post-dispatch & comb through our archives for a decent top-of-1a story. i should've called you to run out to the scene & get quotes, i suppose. dan >In a message dated 9/4/02 3:28:35 AM Central Daylight Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > ><< Pop Group material > > > >Y was reissued in 1996 on CD & vinyl with > >She is Beyond Good and Evil > > & i just got back from a frankly surreal (will write more later --it's 3:30 > a.m. as this is typed) 1,518-mile labor-day weekend drive to & from ark & > la. on which i found that the guy that i stayed with had found this one for > SIX BUCKS a few months ago at my faveo store there. *sob* maybe if i swap > him a cdr of we are time, he'll burn it for me ... > > dan >> > > >Hey Dan! I can tell you from (trading with him) that he doesn't have a cd >burner...i have most all of the Pop Group stuff as well as the Mark Stewart >and Mafia stuff...let me know what you want along with your address and i'll >help you out! > >Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 04:41:44 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] st arkansas anyone particularly knowledgeable about the whole david thomas axis? i've been mystified for months about why they're playing a free show on 9/18 at the liberal arts college 30 mins outside little rock (that i'll probably have to skip on the heels of this latest long haul, though they're playing nashville, somewhat closer, the day before [my & hank sr's birthday] & the considerably closer athens about a week later. the friend i stayed with in lr, though, tells me that someone connected with the college's music program -- possibly named danny grace -- was apparently pals with thomas back in the day, even doing some projects with him, possibly going back to the fabled drome records days. anyone know? i don't have time or energy to go looking through my copies of the box-set booklet, various comps or from the velvets to the voidoids ... is there a pere ubu list or something? dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:51:23 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper Is it just me or does Raft Ants sound rather like that last Red Hot Chilli Peppers single? Cheers John http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:53:50 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] John Cage Happy Birthday John Cage..... you are missed... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:23:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] R&B 02 review online R&B 02 review's up on Wireviews now. www.wireviews.com C ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:21:35 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] AARGH. I live in Jesus College, Cambridge. Hence, my post goes to the college porters, who are meant to stick it in a pigeon-hole for me. They forwarded my copy of RnB02 to my parents in Edinburgh, who just phoned me up: "Who are PostEverything and why are they sending stuff to you?" Bah, bah, thrice bah. They did this with a chequebook too, which was worse. :) feeling RnB deprived, and listening to "Dry the Rain" (Beta Band, 3 EPs), - - Andrew - -- "The carving and paring of the land; the quarter square, the graph divides, Beneath the rule a country hides..." - Wire, "Map Ref 41 deg N 93 deg W" ('154') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:24:32 -0400 From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] road tripping In a message dated Thu, 5 Sep 2002 3:59:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > in which he [a] learns that his father's parents were not > only cousins, as previously known, but *first*cousins, [b] sees his father's > grave for the first time ever, a mere 35 years after his death, [c] consults > a perpetual calendar & confirms that he totaled his car in south la. > precisely *13* years after said father's death, [d] learns that the whole > clan left barbour co., ala, a few dozen miles south of here [montgomery] in > the late 1800s & thus probably -- esp. with the cousins-married thing -- is > related to everybody in that small place, which would include george fucking > wallace ... & would also explain his preternatural liking for "sweet home > alabama", * [e] discovers that his grandparents' first child was born in > montgomery ... probably it was fate that i wound up here, not that i'm very > happy about it Dan: Sounds like a good Faulkner story. Remember: You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your family. Gotta go--my wife/sister wants me to clean up the double-wide and then pick up her uncle/cousin at the bus station. JD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:34:14 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: [Shriekback_Digital_Conspiracy] Sorry,this'll work/pt 1.1 17 as well. All that money spent on porn has been so worth it. Eric in Toronto - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Richard Chilton Sent: September 4, 2002 5:19 PM To: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Re: [Shriekback_Digital_Conspiracy] Sorry,this'll work/pt 1.1 Ari Britt wrote: > > http://storm.prohosting.com/davech/implants.html > 17 out of 20. And some people think you can't tell. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:44:19 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] John Cage I had no idea. A friend of mine had a baby boy just yesterday. Missed by one day. Chance of the draw so to speak. Eric in Toronto - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of RLynn9@aol.com Sent: September 5, 2002 10:54 AM To: dpbailey@worldnet.att.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] John Cage Happy Birthday John Cage..... you are missed... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:46:34 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] She is Beyond In a message dated 9/5/02 9:20:48 AM Central Daylight Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: << btw -- one reason i'm running so late & so fatigued, robert, is that after for once getting out of the office at a halfway decent hour, i had to run back in (one of the bad things about living only 10 mins away) upon learning that st louis co cops had cornered in a fenton motel 6 a suspect {who subsequently killed himsef) in the shootings of 2 cops here 2 weeks ago. so i was put in another 2 1/2 hours working with the night editor because the night cops reporter had gone home with a cold (jesus -- in myyyyyyy day not even walking pneumonia could get me to miss a minute of work) to make phone calls, coordinate with the st louis post-dispatch & comb through our archives for a decent top-of-1a story. i should've called you to run out to the scene & get quotes, i suppose. dan >> well Dan...even though Fenton is a backwards hick town outside of St. Louis..i would have braved the treacherous terrain to get a fellow IC member a scoop! let me know next time! If you ever need an interview with some of Miles Davis' or Nelly's friends and relatives let me know! ..John Goodman and Tina Turner occasionally pop back into town sometimes as well...hahahahahahha! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:31:36 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper In a message dated 9/5/02 9:51:36 AM Central Daylight Time, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com writes: << Is it just me or does Raft Ants sound rather like that last Red Hot Chilli Peppers single? Cheers John >> Since i do not indulge in self-inflicted torture, (except for wearing the occasional Shit-suit) i do not know what the last Red Hot Chilli Pepper's single sounds like...but i am willing to wager that it sounds just as terrible as most Blur records, The new Kids Indestructible rectangular picture disc 11" remixed by Fennesz, and any record by AFOS and Howard Jones, but probably not as terrible as the last JoBoxers cd...but maybe the Red Hots are actually Richard James in disguise?.. caustically, (and sarcastically ) yours, Grim Robinland (or Till Hickson or Bim Robinhick or ....) the illegitimate child of you know who! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:43:19 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper In a message dated 9/5/02 1:32:47 PM Central Daylight Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: << << Is it just me or does Raft Ants sound rather like that last Red Hot Chilli Peppers single? Cheers John >> Since i do not indulge in self-inflicted torture, (except for wearing the occasional Shit-suit) i do not know what the last Red Hot Chilli Pepper's single sounds like...but i am willing to wager that it sounds just as terrible as most Blur records, The new Kids Indestructible rectangular picture disc 11" remixed by Fennesz, and any record by AFOS and Howard Jones, but probably not as terrible as the last JoBoxers cd...but maybe the Red Hots are actually Richard James in disguise?.. caustically, (and sarcastically ) yours, Grim Robinland (or Till Hickson or Bim Robinhick or ....) the illegitimate child of you know who! >> sorry for this post...i was just being silly and having some fun...but seriously, i do hope that Wire NEVER sound anything like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers...EVER!!!! RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:02:37 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper Don't get me wrong here. I can't stand the RHCP. The undisputed forerunners of the jock metal we have to endure so much of nowadays imo. But there is definitely a similarity between the two tracks. I'm sure it's accidental. But then I wouldn;t put it past them for it not to be a pisstake. There was some discussion about similarities between a Wire track and someone else's some time ago on here and someone came in with a competent analysis to prove otherwise. Once that person's got a copy perhaps they'd be so kind as to let us know if there's any similarity other than my poor hearing and memory and lack of ability to hold a tune. 8-) Cheers John >From: RLynn9@aol.com >To: RLynn9@aol.com, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Raft Ant Chilli Pepper >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:43:19 EDT > >In a message dated 9/5/02 1:32:47 PM Central Daylight Time, RLynn9@aol.com >writes: > ><< << Is it just me or does Raft Ants sound rather like that last Red Hot >Chilli > Peppers single? > > Cheers > > John > >> > > Since i do not indulge in self-inflicted torture, (except for wearing the > occasional Shit-suit) i do not know what the last Red Hot Chilli Pepper's > single sounds like...but i am willing to wager that it sounds just as > terrible as most Blur records, The new Kids Indestructible rectangular > picture disc 11" remixed by Fennesz, and any record by AFOS and Howard >Jones, > but probably not as terrible as the last JoBoxers cd...but maybe the Red >Hots > are actually Richard James in disguise?.. > > caustically, (and sarcastically ) > yours, > Grim Robinland (or Till Hickson or Bim Robinhick or ....) > the illegitimate child of you know who! > >> > >sorry for this post...i was just being silly and having some fun...but >seriously, i do hope that Wire NEVER sound anything like the Red Hot Chilli >Peppers...EVER!!!! > >RL http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:12:09 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] first fast ordered my copy of R&B02 tuesday morning and here it is in new york already thursday afternoon. it was quite fast for even posteverything. going to listen to R&B all day, will report back. ~michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:24:17 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Dead or Alive vs. Nico In a message dated 9/5/02 4:24:29 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << Nico, Deeside Futurama 1982, starting to coming back on stage for an encore only to find that Dead Or Alive were starting their set on the second stage. The poor wench looked gutted as she looked into the audience from the wings, desperately wanting to come back on - but the hi-energy intro to Misty Circles continued and the audience gradually turned their attention away from her. My mate - a big Nico fan - looked as devastated as her. As for me - well I was just glad that the endless bloody drone had finished. A very pretty man in make-up gyrating on stage was altogether better entertainment IMHO ; ) Keith >> i am very surprised that you weren't beaten to death with the Hick-Stick ! ....if we know what's good for us, we should NEVER EVER mention crap 80's bands on IC...no matter how pretty they were or how cool their hair was or how good their music was......and the mere mention of Dead or Alive probably warrants death by flogging with a day-glow fanny pack or strangulation with rainbow coloured leg warmers! shame on you Keith! RL p.s. - how cool would it have been if Nico would have taken the stage with an encore of Spin Me Round ? the mind boggles.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 11:06:23 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] R n B 2 As of yesterday it hasn't arrive here (which hardly seems surprising). I did want to note for those considering whether to buy now or wait (in the US) that: 1. Posteverything is fast, and you'll probably get it before the show; 2. I'm being charged 1.00 (UK) for shipping--approximately 1.50 (US). I couldn't get a cd shipped to the other side of Chicago for that price. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:37:28 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R n B 2 In a message dated 9/5/02 2:31:28 PM Central Daylight Time, mflaher3@triton.edu writes: << As of yesterday it hasn't arrive here (which hardly seems surprising). I did want to note for those considering whether to buy now or wait (in the US) that: 1. Posteverything is fast, and you'll probably get it before the show; 2. I'm being charged 1.00 (UK) for shipping--approximately 1.50 (US). I couldn't get a cd shipped to the other side of Chicago for that price. Michael Flaherty >> speaking of the Wire show in Chicago.....How many IC massive will be at the Chicago show? Shall we wear something conspicuous to find each other or would you rather not be found!? I AM GOING AFTER ALL....i still don't have a way there (from St. Louis) but i have a ticket so i will find one!.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:45:29 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome Did anyone else get the standard "welcome to the Wire list" today? Didn't hurt anything, just seemed kind of odd. ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:04:54 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read+Burn 2 - ----- Original Message ----- From: John Roberts > Is it just me or does Raft Ants sound rather like that last Red Hot Chilli > Peppers single? Wouldn't know about that, but I find elements on some of the tracks redolent of things I just can't quite put my finger on. I see that alongside that filter that turns Graham's voice into Colin's (actually once you know it's Graham throughout Agfers it's obvious) Swim Studio's now been kitted out with one that turns Colin into Jaz Coleman (Spent). Only had a couple of runs-through so far but once again, this is a band still rejuvenated and still on top form. Anybody know anything about R+B3 (I'm greedy) I have Raft Ants down as a piss-take of Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire, if you can imagine such a scenario. Ian B np Provisionally Entitled the Singing Fish (spotted this on Amazon, track listing including the CN1 stuff; so, thinking that some carbon pod at Amazon had registered this not knowing the CN1 stuff was sought after (I ain't got it) I took a rather less than hopeful punt, as I want PETSF and Not To on CD in any event. And whaddaya know? The Amazon ad is misleading. No CN1. Still, might wangle a voucher out of 'em on the basis. Never rated ...Fish when I got it years ago. My young mind couldn't stand the fact that it wasn't A-Z part 2. Thoroughly enjoying at the moment though. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:10:06 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome At 02:45 PM 9/5/2002 -0500, Michael Flaherty wrote: >Did anyone else get the standard "welcome to the Wire list" today? Didn't >hurt anything, just seemed kind of odd. ;) You got it because I just uns*bbed and res*bbed you -- your posts were bouncing because majordomo didn't recognize mflaher3@triton.edu as a s*bscriber, so I looked up your s*bbed address, and it was still mflaher3@triton.cc.il.us. Your server was automatically handling the change in name from your side, so (obviously) you still were getting the list mail, but when it came to *submitting* posts, that triton.edu guy was a total stranger as far as majordomo was concerned. So I uns*bbed the triton.cc.il.us address and s*bbed the triton.edu one so you could continue to post to the list without requiring manual intervention from me for every s*bmission. The fact that this post went straight to the list proves that it's working! Aren't you glad you asked? For my next trick, I'll describe changing the oil in my car. Perhaps I'll even mention what Crap '80s Band I was playing while doing so. insert smiley emoticon where applicable, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:12:27 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome In a message dated 9/5/02 3:08:27 PM Central Daylight Time, wireadmin@mindspring.com writes: << Aren't you glad you asked? For my next trick, I'll describe changing the oil in my car. Perhaps I'll even mention what Crap '80s Band I was playing while doing so. insert smiley emoticon where applicable, Miles >> just change the oil and gel in Howard Jones or Pete Burns hair and you can kill two birds with one stone! RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:13:34 -0700 (PDT) From: rayographique Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Umm ... thanks for the welcome Miles Goosens A Wizard...A True Star > Aren't you glad you asked? For my next trick, I'll > describe changing the > oil in my car. Perhaps I'll even mention what Crap > '80s Band I was playing > while doing so. > > insert smiley emoticon where applicable, > > Miles Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: rayographique Subject: Re: [idealcopy] st arkansas there is a usenet newsgroup david thomas is a frequent visitor alt.something.pereubu if i recall - --- dan bailey wrote: > anyone particularly knowledgeable about the whole > david thomas axis? i've > been mystified for months about why they're playing > a free show on 9/18 at > the liberal arts college 30 mins outside little rock > (that i'll probably > have to skip on the heels of this latest long haul, > though they're playing > nashville, somewhat closer, the day before [my & > hank sr's birthday] & the > considerably closer athens about a week later. the > friend i stayed with in > lr, though, tells me that someone connected with the > college's music > program -- possibly named danny grace -- was > apparently pals with thomas > back in the day, even doing some projects with him, > possibly going back to > the fabled drome records days. > anyone know? i don't have time or energy to go > looking through my copies of > the box-set booklet, various comps or from the > velvets to the voidoids ... > is there a pere ubu list or something? > > dan Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:50:09 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 > the mere mention of Dead or Alive probably > warrants death by flogging with a day-glow fanny pack I know fanny has a different meaning in the US than over here, but what exactly is a fanny pack??? > p.s. - how cool would it have been if Nico would have taken the stage with an > encore of Spin Me Round ? > the mind boggles.... it would have sounded exactly like every other Nico song! Cue Big Teutonic Boom....YOOUUUU SPIN ME ROUUUUNNDDD....to the delightful accompaniment of a tuneless harmonium. (And it'd last longer than DOA's 12" version) As a Velvets fan I omit the VU&Nico work from this mass generalisation of course. And that very early track - the name of which escapes me at the moment - that sounds like The Seekers (I kid ye not!) Keith NP Billy MacKenzie & Steve Aungle - Eurocentric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:46:11 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 In a message dated 9/5/02 3:42:16 PM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << > the mere mention of Dead or Alive probably > warrants death by flogging with a day-glow fanny pack I know fanny has a different meaning in the US than over here, but what exactly is a fanny pack???>>>> uh it's a pouch that straps around your waist...really stupid... > p.s. - how cool would it have been if Nico would have taken the stage with an > encore of Spin Me Round ? > the mind boggles.... it would have sounded exactly like every other Nico song! Cue Big Teutonic Boom....YOOUUUU SPIN ME ROUUUUNNDDD....to the delightful accompaniment of a tuneless harmonium. (And it'd last longer than DOA's 12" version)>>>>> come now Mr. Astbury...Nico's stuff wasn't bad at all ! (oops! does this qualify as "crap 70's band" discussion? do i get a hick-stick whippin?) RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:12:34 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 04:46:11PM -0400, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/5/02 3:42:16 PM Central Daylight Time, > keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > << > the mere mention of Dead or Alive probably > > warrants death by flogging with a day-glow fanny pack > > I know fanny has a different meaning in the US than over here, but what > exactly is a fanny pack???>>>> > > uh it's a pouch that straps around your waist...really stupid... Ah, so a bum bag. (Something with equally bad names on each side of the atlantic! :) ) > come now Mr. Astbury...Nico's stuff wasn't bad at all ! (oops! does this > qualify as "crap 70's band" discussion? do i get a hick-stick whippin?) No, that started in the Steve Hillage thread, I think. (Never heard Gong, so I'm not about to join in the spear-throwing there.) - - Andrew - -- "It's no problem if you play it cool; Things are different if you act the fool!" - - Super Furry Animals, "Play It Cool" ('Radiator') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:12:48 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 > do i get a hick-stick whippin? You're developping quite an obsession here Robert. Do we have to start worrying yet? ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:55:55 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 > Ah, so a bum bag. (Something with equally bad names on each side of the > atlantic! :) Bum bag? We call that a stoma. ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 01:03:17 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 I really like Nico in small doses. 'The End' was the album for me and her performance on the 1 June 1974 album, which I mention only so I can namecheck Kevin Ayers in two consecutive posts. another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury To: ; Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:50 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Dead or Alive 1 Nico 0 > > the mere mention of Dead or Alive probably > > warrants death by flogging with a day-glow fanny pack > > I know fanny has a different meaning in the US than over here, but what > exactly is a fanny pack??? > > > p.s. - how cool would it have been if Nico would have taken the stage with > an > > encore of Spin Me Round ? > > the mind boggles.... > > it would have sounded exactly like every other Nico song! > > Cue Big Teutonic Boom....YOOUUUU SPIN ME ROUUUUNNDDD....to the delightful > accompaniment of a tuneless harmonium. (And it'd last longer than DOA's 12" > version) > > As a Velvets fan I omit the VU&Nico work from this mass generalisation of > course. And that very early track - the name of which escapes me at the > moment - that sounds like The Seekers (I kid ye not!) > > Keith > > NP Billy MacKenzie & Steve Aungle - Eurocentric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 01:00:55 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] road trip music Really enjoyed reading this Dan. George Wallace? - you poor sod. Fischerspooner's 'Emerge' is a great, great record and far, far better than anything else on the album IMHO. another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: dan bailey To: ideal copy Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [idealcopy] road trip music > i know everybody out there has been waiting with bated breath to learn what > an idealcopyist listens to during a marathon labor day weekend drive for a > family reunion (in which he [a] learns that his father's parents were not > only cousins, as previously known, but *first*cousins, [b] sees his father's > grave for the first time ever, a mere 35 years after his death, [c] consults > a perpetual calendar & confirms that he totaled his car in south la. > precisely *13* years after said father's death, [d] learns that the whole > clan left barbour co., ala, a few dozen miles south of here [montgomery] in > the late 1800s & thus probably -- esp. with the cousins-married thing -- is > related to everybody in that small place, which would include george fucking > wallace ... & would also explain his preternatural liking for "sweet home > alabama", * [e] discovers that his grandparents' first child was born in > montgomery ... probably it was fate that i wound up here, not that i'm very > happy about it, [f] picks up at lr's main punk shop a cdr by his > next-to-last girlfriend, who'd been in a couple of bands in college in the > late '80s, & [g] is exposed for the first time at his friend's house > fischer-spooner's sumptuous version of the 15th, hears his friend's account > of said band's striking performance on the ep's next track [emerge? > something like that] on totp while said friend was in england for all > tomorrow's parties, the bastard), goes to sleep & wakes up the final > night/morning to the strains of the pop group's y [a little less ... > raucous? ... than for how much longer & we are time had led me to expect, > somehow], & hears for the first time the yeah yeah yeahs ep [which i > subsequently picked up at the aforementioned small punk shop] ... > > anyway, where in the name of god was i? oh, yeah -- i've got only a car tape > player (for which i'm properly thankful, mind you -- my previous car's deck > went out in 9/90). tapes played during the drive to & from little rock, sw > ark, northern la. & montgomery -- > > frank tovey -- snakes & ladders (wire ref: colin played drums on at least a > couple of tracks, n'est-ce pas?) > fad gadget -- greatest hits, incontinent, fireside favourites > scars -- author author > gas -- emotional warfare > dillinger four -- non-lp tracks > tweezers -- already! > fall -- extricate (better than i remembered) > sonic youth -- experimental jet set (not as good as i remembered) > david bowie -- friend's comp of '69-'82 tracks > kmfdm -- uaioe (a couple of years before they hit their stride, i decided) > danse society -- heaven is waiting, seduction > swingin' utters -- uncompiled (at least at the time the tape was dubbed in > the mid-'90s) tracks > 16 horsepower -- secret south, ep tracks > brian eno -- here come the warm jets > kevin dunn & the regiment of women -- judgment of paris > > dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:58:24 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Birmingham Frequencies - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark McQuitty > > > Here's a question for y'all, what's the most unusual gig/event venue > attended? > > MarkM - ---------- Probably Test Dept in Cannon St station - for those not familiar with London rail termini, a commuter station which closes at weekends and therefore for some reason allowed the notorious lefty, metal-bashing ranters to do their thing on a Saturday night at the end of Platform 6. Not much of a bar as I recall. A year or so later (84?) they continued the theme by playing Bishop's Bridge Rail Maintenance depot in west London - a cavernous space built under railway arches. By this time they had trapeze artists and striking miners performing as well. Later saw them at a converted synagogue in Brixton, so in terms of unusual venues Test Dept get the trophy from me. Always thought they were tremendous live. The Faust / Henry Cow tour in 72, which I've mentioned here before, was also pretty odd. The gig I would really liked to have seen was about 8 years ago when Peter Hammill was invited to some festival in the Alps, which requires the performer to lug equipment up 3,000 feet to play in a natural amphitheatre. Unfortunately it started to chuck it down so PH was forced to repair to a nearby hut and play there, crammed in with soaking people with steam rising off their clothes. Talking of which, I'm still recovering from last night's Ikara Colt gig at the 100 Club. First time I've ever been there for some reason (thereby exploding any Sex Pistols credentials I might have) and I have never been to a hotter venue. It was just stupidly hot - you could feel a physical heat as you descended the stairs and were forced back by it at the door. It wasn't even that warm a night. To cap it all Ikara Colt weren't even very good. The singer now seems to think he's in the Hives and needs to banter between every song. Not in 120 degrees of heat you don't sunshine. Support, Martini Henry Rifles, were a lot better - loud, raucous and belligerent and comprised of reasonable lookalikes - John Cusack on drums, Kevin Ayers on guitar and Robbie Fowler (a footballer if you're still reading this far) on vocals. another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 01:11:09 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] dan's burning issues... dan bailey with the elephantine memory... >really must acquired myself a burner. i promised somebody on this list -- >ian jackson? -- a copy of iaitb ages ago, but my girlfriend-at-the-time >never got around to copying it (though at least i've got mine back... jeez dan, what a story, anyway... yep, that was me...the news is i now have a copy of IAITB and your copy of David Thomas & Two Pale Boys 'Meadville' went to a good home in North Wales...ahem...however, i can always do you another one and i'm sure you got plenty that i haven't, so no worries on that score...!!! ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #297 *******************************