From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #284 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, August 28 2002 Volume 05 : Number 284 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] sleazy promoter ... [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT - London Calling...the edited version ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Mojo ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Mojo ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] some new stuff.... [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] sleazy promoter ... in a vivid riot of red [rayographique] Re: [idealcopy] coulda woulda shoulda ["dan bailey" > THE MERCYGROUND > > P.O. Box 2286 > > Hollywood, CA 90078-2286 > > USA > > Ph: (818) 786-6869 > > info@mercyground.com > > http://www.mercyground.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:36:44 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - London Calling...the edited version what Mark...? no 'Koka Kola'...? with you on the rest though ;) would've made a great single LP...better than '...Rope' ...? 'Sandinista' i haven't heard for 20-odd years, hated it, glad you didn't bother with that one...!!! ian.s.j. >So, with judicious addition of relevant b-side, edit it down to... > >London calling >Brand new cadillac >Hateful >Spanish bombs >Guns of Brixton >Lost in the supermarket > >Clampdown >I'm not down >Death or glory >Armagideon time >Train in vain _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:40:16 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - London Calling...the revised edited version dan added... >to which i *might* add (haven't listened to the track in years, mind you) >rudie can't fail. er...plus this one too...i never said it was a bad LP...!!! ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:45:21 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] coulda woulda shoulda dan...on a 'pet' subject... >so what happens after being so exhausted working insane hours that i >probably haven't flossed 10 times since moving here 9 months ago? no >cavities whatsoever. oh dan, don't start me on the teeth thing...the bain of my bloody life...the horror stories i have...being born with no adult teeth to follow in certain places did not help...but like i said, just don't... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:46:30 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] coulda woulda shoulda On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:45:21PM +0100, ian.s. jackson wrote: > dan...on a 'pet' subject... > >so what happens after being so exhausted working insane hours that i > >probably haven't flossed 10 times since moving here 9 months ago? no > >cavities whatsoever. > > oh dan, don't start me on the teeth thing...the bain of my bloody > life...the horror stories i have...being born with no adult teeth to follow > in certain places did not help...but like i said, just don't... Three words: root canal surgery. Two more: ineffective anaesthetic. Ow. - - Andrew - -- "Any day now, how's about getting out of this place anyway; got a lot of spare time, some of my youth, and all of my senses on overdrive " - Elbow, "Any Day Now" ('Asleep In The Back') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] ALWAYS merry and bright.../the C.D .......whoever sent me those c.d's......thanx muchly....Ari ===== Shriek at the world and the world shrieksback http://www.shriekback.com Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:58:47 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Springsteen/Clash...new ball please... just a quick word lads...with apologies, but... how about someone changing the subject field somewhere along the line...? ;) ian.s.j. (sailing under a false flag...) > > >>////i always like optimism in a man. but i fear realism will creep >into > > this one (mid morning on the first day of the first test maybe?) p<< > >My concerns are that our bowling attack is not accurate enough to frustrate >the australians, and that we still aren't good enough at playing spin. But >I >think we're a lot better than we were last summer. And the Waugh brothers >aren't getting any younger. > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:06:52 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: OT - London Calling...the edited version me in reply... > > >>what Mark...? no 'Koka Kola'...? with you on the rest though ;)<< Mark in reply reply... >A close call between that and Death or glory. One of 'em had to go to make >way for Armagideon Time (remember this is a fictitious vinyl single album >exercise). no contest...'Koka Kola' for me...!!! ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:32:11 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore > << > isn't there so many more interesting people to go investigate? > > Not really no...>>> > > uh oh...that's gonna get you a long list of obscure "punk" bands to peruse as > well as a right smacking from the Hick Stick.... Do you think he'll let me off for liking The Liars ; ) Actually, here's one Bill might be able to help me with... Talk of 'grunge' here recently reminded me of a record I heard on Peel circa 89-90. It was a grungy version of Gimme Shelter that I seem to recall JP playing a few times. Great record. Any idea who it was by? Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:42:52 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore At 10:32 PM 8/27/2002 +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: >Actually, here's one Bill might be able to help me with... > >Talk of 'grunge' here recently reminded me of a record I heard on Peel circa >89-90. It was a grungy version of Gimme Shelter that I seem to recall JP >playing a few times. Great record. Any idea who it was by? I ain't no Bill or Peel, but the only thing I can think of that fits the bill is Sisters of Mercy's excellent cover, which would be more like '83, thus predating grunge by a much wider margin than even Tin Machine. On the TEMPLE OF LOVE EP, or collected on SOME GIRLS WANDER BY MISTAKE. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:39:08 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] some new stuff.... PHILIP JECK & JACOB KIRKEGAARD Soaked CD v/a : Electrically Induced Vibrations LP This is a collection of music created with electronic means by artists residing in Luxembourg, United Kingdom, United States, New Zealand and The Netherlands. most of these people have been making music for 20 years or more, and have diverse history. their music as collected here is varied, but arranged into a cohesive flow. by all means experimental to the general population, the first side consists of what might be consider the more musical contributions, while the second explores more abstract and ambient territory. Featuring Edward Ka-spel, Cyclobe, Colin Potter, Steve Thomsen, Omit, Arkkon, Silverman, Mistress of Strands and Fibrillation. Limited edition of 400 copies (100 of which are being given to contributors), 4 color screen printed cover printed by Siwa with photography by Arthur S. Aubry of electrical devices built by Dale Travous. Multicolor vinyl. All tracks exclusive to this release. BILL HORIST & KK. NULL Interstellar Chemistry CD Bill Horist/KK Null 'Interstellar Chemistry' Ah, the flowers of romance. In this instance, as it turns out, Bill is Horistaculturalist to Null's garden of unearthly delights. Boom Shankar: Null plants the seed, Bill grows the seed, and we EAT the seed. What in Hell's name am I going on about? Well, it's like this: Null provided sonic source material which Horist then organised, manipulated and added on to. So what happened? Scrumptious musical confectionaries with surprise flavour centers! Much of it is like IDM with the boring removed. More deep and less bleep. The drum machinations pound out strains reminiscent of Ikue More (ala Death Praxis) or latter day Bruce Gilbert with a bit of controlled early Nurse With Wound wail thrown in as if this amalgamation were the soundtrack to an old Atari video game (see also Haruomi Hosono). And then comes the second track! Horists' guitar techniques are exciting, weird, rhythmic, Harry Partch-like (track 4 'Luminous Lullaby'), indescribable, explosive, ugly and beautiful. And just when it gets nuts, a melancholy paean to Boards Of Canada cuts through the noisy silt to round the experience out. Tietchensian insect jitters skitter throughout the tracks, no two of which can be said to be quite the same. And this is the wonder of the whole thing; Bill has crafted a cohesive statement out of all these musical explorations which, in many ways, smells of the tectonics of "OG" electro-experimental records of the early 80's and late 70's. There is both a bold adventurousness and a wonderful simplicity to the compositions that is like re-embracing that pivotal moment when noise first made sense and all the Zeppelin records went into the bin. And then you needed a pack of cigarettes and had to fish through the bin to sell the Zeppelin records. It's like that! http://blrrecords.com/mp3/mt037_null-horist_09.mp3 REYNOLS Pacallirte Soban Cumanos CD I think Reynols' may have devised a new genre of music which we shall call here "sushikraut." All the syrupy, seering guitar hallmarks & plodding time signatures of the finest psychedelic krautrock legends: Ash Ra Temple, Amon Duul II, Guru Guru (early), Xhol Caravan, & Can (early) etc. All the psychedelic, syrupy random lo-fi looseness and spirtual spaciousness of Ghost, Acid Mothers Temple, White Heaven, & Magical Power Mako. Throw in sing-songy Gergorigegege style vocalisations (For some reason Jandek also sticks in my craw) & you've got yourself a masterpiece called Reynols. http://www.blrrecords.com/mp3/mt051_reynols_03.mp3 CHARALAMBIDES Lactamase Series 10 inch Charalambides 'Ana/Kata' Part 9 in the Lactamase series. The great sovereign state of Texas is great for a number of reasons; principally: beers, steers and Charalambides. Now if it's true what they say about quiet being the new loud 'n all, then this record is a screamer! Two long tracks that trade in the currency of stratosphere. The C-Bides have ever been purveyors of the sublime indescribable, but this release in particular sounds like the distant decayed echoes of supernovas. "Ana" rings out with phased vocals that dance within quartertones of eachother. This serves as an extended intro to the then spacious guitar double helixes which wrap and waver as if slowly swimming through plasma. This captures something of the aural space that Musique Concrete's "Bringing Up Baby" did, except that our C-Bides tread ever lightly with their annebriated walking noise lines (could they be the Leroy Vinegars of difficult music?). I've heard the term "moodcore" bandied about in relation to our fair Texans, but I prefer to think of this as "sinewcore" because of its dangling fleshy goodness. "Kata" continues exploring the sonic themes as promulgated in the first piece, sounding more and more like lost soundtrack material to a Maya Deren film. A smokey and subtle record that is audibly fragrant both in the early morning and in the deepest corner of night. While you are ill advised to mess with Texas, you will do very well to mess with this 10" as it shall surreally lull you into a great sovereign state of mind. http://www.blrrecords.com/mp3/mt029_charalambides.mp3 SOUND Screaming Zenith LP Sound 'Screaming Zenith' An edition of 300 copies on audiophile 220 gram double vinyl housed in a full color gatefold cover. Cacophony plus catastrophe divided by calliope minus colostomy=crepe-noizette! Sound sound off like a delicious blend of fresh When and finely ground Aphex Twin mixed with just a dash of Pascal Comelade drool. 13 tracks of dark dementia sewn together as a quilt of mini symphonic diversions, embroidered with bits and bytes and twisted sub rhythms and the occasional driving breakbeat. Whimsical and dada-esque with solid musical foundations, this record can also stand as rightful heir to the likes of Didier Bocquet and early Ian Boddy in its sequenced charms. And let's not forget our Frog forebears Albert Marcoeur and Etron Fou Leloublan for that certain "je ne sais quoi" factor. Ah, And as if these were not enticements enough, the gorgeous full-colour artwork may just win you some free counseling sessions should it be seen in your possession by an upright citizen type. A capricious and captivating compendium that sustains the continued use of "C" descriptor words containing "P's" to describe it, saving of course for "crap," which this is never, though you may be compelled to do so when you see and hear how beautiful and odd this record is and becomes. 3 sides plus a 4th side of artwork. http://www.blrrecords.com/mp3/mt010_01.mp3 SAMARTZIS + PIMMON + VERHAGEN + BROWN Grain CD Released to co-incide with their forthcoming tour of San Francisco, the 'Grain' compilation highlights the work of 4 of Australia's eminent sound artists - with Samartzis and Pimmon exploring delicate electroacoustic manipulations of field recordings, Verhagen constructing a fragile matrix of treated frame drum patterns, and Brown dynamically deconstructing the 20th century postclassical soundpalette. 'Grain' is limited to 600 copies only and comes packaged in subtle ice green textures on satin card from i+t=r. DEUTSCH NEPAL Silent Siege CD The conclusion of the Silence triology out on OEC. An outburst of adrenalinestuffed new tracks, remixes, and documentations. Massive, beating sound walls in good old industrial style. What more could we expect from this industrial ambient project? At last, that which has been kept within is now released in form of an agressive expression with sound and attitude. More close to the chaotic live sound of his performances, Lina Baby Doll take out his worst and show off in an almost limbic way. Opposite from the depressing low sound of "Erosion", this CD4s sound always on the edge of cracking, breaking or exploding, but at the same time tastefully produced and dynamic. Deutsch Nepal has been said for years to be a big mystery, but now the truth is revealed. The best Deutsch Nepal release so far. Comes in ellegant digipac . VACUUM BOYS Songs From The Sea Of Love CD AMSTERDAM - June 5th, 2002. Adventure #4 from The Vacuum Boys was released in Amsterdam today, celebrating those crazy Vacuum Boys and their entry into the Rock n' Roll scene. Just when die-hard Vacuum Boys fans thought the zany shenanigans were finished with "The Vacuum Boys and the Mystery of the Old Mill" -- what do you know! A new adventure! This time, The Vacuum Boys take on the powers of the unknown and strange to unravel new tales of suspense and intrigue. The New Vacuum Boys CD is a full-length CD featuring the absolute highest-quality groovy tunes, and introducing - genuine rock'n'roll! In addition to including the latest mystery "The Vacuum Boys and the Secret of the Haunted Spanish Galleon - Chapter One: The Trap is Set" the CD includes exclusive Vacuum Boys Fan Club Offers, high quality music suitable for all age-groups, original artwork and design by Meeuw and much, much more!! The Vacuum Boys Play Songs from the Sea of Love is completely recorded in two sessions in early February 2002 in Amsterdam and Rotterdam, in the Kingdom of the Netherlands. IOS SMOLDERS Music For Kalx.com CD Ios Smolders has been composing music since the early 80s (under his monikker IOSS) and was one of the original members of THU20, a Dutch electro-acoustic ensemble (which also features Roel Meelkop and Peter Duimelinks, both of Kapotte Muziek and Goem). In the early nineties he released two, now well sought after LP's, one for Korm Plastics and one for Quiet Artworks. His two CD releases for Staalplaat are interactive works and are still available. They are less a finished work, but a work in progress for which the active input of the listener is required. Music for Kalx.com is his latest work and has five pieces from pure sine waves. The CD has a really nice flow in the pieces and can easily meet the best composed works of Ios Smolders, which some think to be the second LP. It has the Ios trademark all over it, despite the fact that he limits himself to just pure sine waves. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:43:45 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore In a message dated 8/27/02 4:41:42 PM Central Daylight Time, wireadmin@mindspring.com writes: << I ain't no Bill or Peel, >> but you're Miles and we lerv ya fer it!!!!!!! gimme another round barkeep!!!! Cheer to all my IC mates! my work day is officially over! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:53:48 -0700 From: Mark Wilson Subject: Re: [idealcopy] some new stuff.... > v/a : Electrically Induced Vibrations LP I'm waiting for my copy to arrive from Anomalous! > BILL HORIST & KK. NULL Interstellar Chemistry CD > CHARALAMBIDES Lactamase Series 10 inch And these from BLRR! > SAMARTZIS + PIMMON + VERHAGEN + BROWN Grain CD > Released to co-incide with their forthcoming tour of San Francisco, I'm REALLY looking forward to this "tour". They're playing at the SFMOMA, in Santa Cruz, San Luis Obispo, and maybe a couple of other California shows. (I don't remember exactly.) Unfortunately, the date of the Santa Cruz show is the same date that Wire is playing The Fillmore. > DEUTSCH NEPAL Silent Siege CD For those DN fans, they'll be playing a few US dates next month with Der Blutharsch and Anenzephalia. Information can be found at: http://www.tesco-distro.com/god/blast/america/calendar.html I'm promoting the Oakland, CA show, so if you need any information, let me know (mark.wilson@oracle.com). Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:07:46 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Mojo This months Mojo mag features a review of Read & Burn by Keith Cameron. Very positive... Six track mini-album from punk-era veterans, their first of all-new material since 1990's Manscape. Wire never adhered to regular career trajectories. After 12 years dormancy, the original quartet has reconvened, and it's as if the sardonic blighters have surveyed both previous versions of themselves - geometric punk rock (70's), elusive digital pop (80's) - and decided that the best concievable record would be a cross between the two: the proto thrash of Pink Flag transfused through a primitive electronic filter. Incredibly, these 17 minutes of prime rock thrills - Comet is essentially Motorhead - better even that, by adding the unanticipated element of anger, a base emotion the Wire of 1977 were far too ironically detached to admit. "Your TIME is UP! You've HAD your CHANCE!" screams Colin Newman's estuary-vowelled grumbleweed on I Don't Understand, and at no point does Read & Burn relent on it's rancorous premise. Whether a one-off salvo or blueprint for future combat, it's hard to imagine a more perfectly realised Wire artifact. Excellent eh? Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:13:14 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore > >Talk of 'grunge' here recently reminded me of a record I heard on Peel circa > >89-90. It was a grungy version of Gimme Shelter that I seem to recall JP > >playing a few times. Great record. Any idea who it was by? > > I ain't no Bill or Peel, but the only thing I can think of that fits the > bill is Sisters of Mercy's excellent cover, which would be more like '83, > thus predating grunge by a much wider margin than even Tin Machine. On the > TEMPLE OF LOVE EP, or collected on SOME GIRLS WANDER BY MISTAKE. Don't *think* it was SOM - I don't know their version but it was noisier, gruffer and shoutier than them I would have thought, but thanks anyway Miles. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore - --- Keith Astbury wrote: > > << > isn't there so many more interesting people > to go investigate? > > > > Not really no...>>> > > > > uh oh...that's gonna get you a long list of > obscure "punk" bands to peruse > as > > well as a right smacking from the Hick Stick.... > > Do you think he'll let me off for liking The Liars ; > ) > > Actually, here's one Bill might be able to help me > with... > > Talk of 'grunge' here recently reminded me of a > record I heard on Peel circa > 89-90. It was a grungy version of Gimme Shelter that > I seem to recall JP > playing a few times. Great record. Any idea who it > was by? > > Keith Talking of obscure Punk,around the same period I heard a REAL good punk rendition of' I know an old lady who swollowed a fly......' anyone any clues who it was?Ari n.p Immersion-Oscillating-thanx Frederik ===== Shriek at the world and the world shrieksback http://www.shriekback.com Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:11:38 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore >>around the same period I heard a REAL good punk rendition of' I know an old lady who swollowed a fly......'<< Magazine's Feed the Enemy (on Secondhand Daylight) lapses into a brief few seconds of that... though it's hardly a "rendition". Perhaps that's what you're thinking of? Not the same period though! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:13:33 -0500 (CDT) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] old lady who swallowed a fly Ari: Flipper did "the old lady who swallowed a fly" > Sex Bomb Baby album/CD. voyteck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:17:11 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore At 11:13 PM 8/27/2002 +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: >> >Talk of 'grunge' here recently reminded me of a record I heard on Peel >circa >> >89-90. It was a grungy version of Gimme Shelter that I seem to recall JP >> >playing a few times. Great record. Any idea who it was by? >> >> I ain't no Bill or Peel, but the only thing I can think of that fits the >> bill is Sisters of Mercy's excellent cover, which would be more like '83, >> thus predating grunge by a much wider margin than even Tin Machine. On >the >> TEMPLE OF LOVE EP, or collected on SOME GIRLS WANDER BY MISTAKE. > >Don't *think* it was SOM - I don't know their version but it was noisier, >gruffer and shoutier than them I would have thought, but thanks anyway >Miles. Early SOM was noisier and gruffer than the perfect sheen of FLOODLAND and VISION THING, but given your stated timeframe, it was probably someone else (though Vanderbilt U.'s radio station was still fond of the SOM cover in '88-'89). Nevertheless, you can perhaps definitively eliminate it at the following link: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1236718590/pagename=/RP/SHARE/soundclip.html/UPC=9031764762/disc=01/track=13/source=wmf later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:43:24 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: time reflected like a whore > Early SOM was noisier and gruffer than the perfect sheen of FLOODLAND and > VISION THING, but given your stated timeframe, it was probably someone else > (though Vanderbilt U.'s radio station was still fond of the SOM cover in > '88-'89). Nevertheless, you can perhaps definitively eliminate it at the > following link: Definitely not that one Miles. Thanks again though. Ian's Pussy Galore suggestion would be the right sort of time frame. Keith > > http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1236718590/pagename=/RP/SHARE/sound clip.html/UPC=9031764762/disc=01/track=13/source=wmf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:03:13 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik MUZIK magazine September "Leftield Trainspotting" section LIARS - They Threw.... (****) WIRE Read & Burn (*****) Two visitors from the world of avant rock Liars employ shards of detuned guitar, drumming of military precision & adolescent stroppiness, bass like a bodily function & the sexiest singer currently opperating. They're for anyone with a need for quickend pulse brought on by something other than cocaine, But even these hot, moist, young striplings must bow to the old codgers Wire's first release since 1906 (roughly). The art punk veterans have comeup with 17 scalding marmalising minutes of precisely targeted guitar barrage that sounds like Bladerunner replicants impersonating Motorhead. It's the most thrilling record of the year so far by a country mile. They are (still) the flies in the ointment Duncan Bell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:21:20 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] Liars go public > Do you think he'll let me off for liking The Liars ; ) Bill loves the Liars. He's bigged them up on this list extensively. Not sure if he'll be so keen now that they are becoming music press darlings and racked up in HMV as alternative 'Pick of the Week'....They've obviously got a good press and PR.....and that can only mean they want me, "Mr Suit" to buy their records. Tish pish, don't they know I only buy records by bands that get reviewed in Q? Oh hang on a second..... They'll be doing adverts for Vauxhall Corsa next. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:03:52 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Mojo I liked this one. "Geometric..Elusive, Digital Pop" sounds like my music tastes in a nutshell, well it does this week anyway. I wonder what Colin thinks of being an "Estuary-Vowelled Grumbleweed" though? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Astbury" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Mojo > This months Mojo mag features a review of Read & Burn by Keith Cameron. Very > positive... > > > > Six track mini-album from punk-era veterans, their first of all-new material > since 1990's Manscape. > > Wire never adhered to regular career trajectories. After 12 years dormancy, > the original quartet has reconvened, and it's as if the sardonic blighters > have surveyed both previous versions of themselves - geometric punk rock > (70's), elusive digital pop (80's) - and decided that the best concievable > record would be a cross between the two: the proto thrash of Pink Flag > transfused through a primitive electronic filter. Incredibly, these 17 minutes > of prime rock thrills - Comet is essentially Motorhead - better even that, by > adding the unanticipated element of anger, a base emotion the Wire of 1977 > were far too ironically detached to admit. "Your TIME is UP! You've HAD your > CHANCE!" screams Colin Newman's estuary-vowelled grumbleweed on I Don't > Understand, and at no point does Read & Burn relent on it's rancorous premise. > Whether a one-off salvo or blueprint for future combat, it's hard to imagine a > more perfectly realised Wire artifact. > > > > > Excellent eh? > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:26:15 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik Definitely one for Mr Newman's scrapbook! Mark << Two visitors from the world of avant rock Liars employ shards of detuned guitar, drumming of military precision & adolescent stroppiness, bass like a bodily function & the sexiest singer currently opperating. They're for anyone with a need for quickend pulse brought on by something other than cocaine, But even these hot, moist, young striplings must bow to the old codgers Wire's first release since 1906 (roughly). The art punk veterans have comeup with 17 scalding marmalising minutes of precisely targeted guitar barrage that sounds like Bladerunner replicants impersonating Motorhead. It's the most thrilling record of the year so far by a country mile. They are (still) the flies in the ointment >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:31:43 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik Bloody hell! Even pill-poppin, drugoid, Ibeefah-zines like Muzik are bigging up the Wire massive! Wi-re....comin atchah! I wonder if Bill Hick will write to the editor of Music to point out that their are in fact only 16 minutes 58 seconds, not 17 minutes on the CD, and that Wire's last release wasn't in 1906 at all....etc etc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Astbury" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik > MUZIK magazine September "Leftield Trainspotting" section > > LIARS - They Threw.... (****) > WIRE Read & Burn (*****) > > Two visitors from the world of avant rock > Liars employ shards of detuned guitar, drumming of military precision & > adolescent stroppiness, bass like a bodily function & the sexiest singer > currently opperating. > They're for anyone with a need for quickend pulse brought on by something > other than cocaine, > But even these hot, moist, young striplings must bow to the old codgers > Wire's first release since 1906 (roughly). > The art punk veterans have comeup with 17 scalding marmalising minutes of > precisely targeted guitar barrage that sounds like Bladerunner replicants > impersonating Motorhead. > It's the most thrilling record of the year so far by a country mile. > They are (still) the flies in the ointment > > Duncan Bell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:47:31 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Burn - Muzik Aw, leave him alone. He's fully aware of Irony. He uses Irony to get creasey out of shirty. Mark ;-) << I wonder if Bill Hick will write to the editor of Music to point out that their are in fact only 16 minutes 58 seconds, not 17 minutes on the CD, and that Wire's last release wasn't in 1906 at all....etc etc. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:28:34 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] some new stuff.... > BILL HORIST & KK. NULL Interstellar Chemistry CD >Bill Horist/KK Null 'Interstellar Chemistry' Ah, the flowers of romance. In >this instance, as it turns out, Bill is Horistaculturalist to Null's garden >of unearthly delights. Boom Shankar: Null plants the seed, Bill grows the >seed, and we EAT the seed. What in Hell's name am I going on about? Well, Hey - guess what? Bill's a friend of mine. I'll probably see him in a day or so at a friend's bar-b-que. This description is from the website right? What did you think of the CD? I'll pass along any (nice) comments to him. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:43:05 -0700 (PDT) From: rayographique Subject: Re: [idealcopy] sleazy promoter ... in a vivid riot of red isn't 'sleazy promoter' redundant? hi all - back to see whassup in light of the impending reading burning whirlwind stateside tour i am [to say the least] stoked i will see wire AND ryuichi sakamoto in the same week here in chi(town) greets to all d Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:34:11 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] coulda woulda shoulda >On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:45:21PM +0100, ian.s. jackson wrote: >> dan...on a 'pet' subject... >> >so what happens after being so exhausted working insane hours that i >> >probably haven't flossed 10 times since moving here 9 months ago? no >> >cavities whatsoever. >> >> oh dan, don't start me on the teeth thing...the bain of my bloody >> life...the horror stories i have...being born with no adult teeth to follow >> in certain places did not help...but like i said, just don't... > >Three words: root canal surgery. > >Two more: ineffective anaesthetic. > >Ow. > >- Andrew > my own root canal some 8 years ago was surprisingly painless (might have something to do with the fact that that was the only dentist i've ever had who used nitrous), but when afterward i took (just for the hell of it) the painkillers she prescribed for me, i must've been allergic to the things & itched like hell. dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:51:57 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Rumoured Barbican show Hi Keith, Ari @ all I think it's extremely unlikely because the film was made for channel 4, right? The best you'll get , probably, is a copy of the film, which I thought was very good @ ica btw later A > > in response to Ari's query - no news of any Beeb broadcast and I'd be > surprised if they do to be honest. > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. 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