From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #250 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 30 2002 Volume 05 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] lp is too long [Mr Grumpy ] [idealcopy] Anorak'd Maschine ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] used vinyl anorak ["Bob Swan" ] Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards [Andrew Walkingshaw ] [idealcopy] Flaming Minogue Magog [Tim ] Re: [idealcopy] Bored of Canada C.D [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: SV: [idealcopy] new on the list [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Andrew wrote......... [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair [Tim ] Re: [idealcopy] OT-punknstuff... ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] Fwd: Re: [Shriek_Digicon] A3 on the SKIDS (o/t)/Larry Love [A] Re: [idealcopy] ot- sandanista [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair ["Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] lp is too long my only complaint (as with most > electronica) is that i wish > they would not feel the need to make such longs > albums...8 good tracks with > no fodder would be great... > Seems to be the case with the last few Orbital albums. An EP worth of material with fifty minutes of other music thrown in. That could be said about a lot of bands. What is wrong with just putting out an EP when you get a couple good songs? It worked for Wire. MG ===== /\/\/\ { . . } /\ -- -bollocks! (R)GWS Ltdhttp://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:58:55 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Anorak'd Maschine >>>>Anyone who has been to the UK knows how vital this piece of clothing can be... Never very stylish, though. Pin a green badge with the legend HARDCORE IS MORE THAN MUSIC to your anorak Improves the style no end! Grumpychap correct Anorak very useful In inclement northtown drizzle I do a lot of walking around in Manchester, partly because I hate the bastard who runs Stagecoach, but mostly because it's good exercise. Stagecoach are a bus company with shark like competition moves who instead of paying the drivers more for their time, donate half a million to a campaign to pass a law to stop teachers mentioning homosexuality in schools. I do not like donating to their cause. So for me the anorak is an essential garment. But today I'm wearing a Labradord T-shirt and blasting my ears with: Scala - Slide (+Gilbert mix) x3 Oxes - Oxes Black Flag - Who's Got the 10 1/2? Husker Du - Candy Apple Grey WIRE - Nice Streets WIRE - The Ideal Copy WIRE - Read & Burn 01 WIRE - Raft Ants Can - Peel Sessions Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "Fit for a Princess Hot on the Heels of an Angel Are you Hot?" (WIRE ~ Ambitious) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:58:04 +0100 From: "Bob Swan" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] used vinyl anorak > >joe boxers > > saw them. memory i have is that the lead guy reminded me of the bassist for > culture club, and the rest of em had a haircut 100/simply red vibe going. i > don't remember any songs, not even their one hit...i know they had one. > Boxerbeat I think it was called - I also seem to recall they were spawned from lineup 4 (or thereabouts) of the Subway Sect - the backing band obviously deciding to ditch Vic Godard and do their own thing. BobS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:33:10 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Anorak Awards Andrew wrote: "I don't think I believe *any* person, band or otherwise, are (or ever were) entirely for real" Didn't you mean "are (or ever WIRE)"??? Mark wrote: "Every piece of 'art' created by Bruce Gilbert (to use a relevant example) is "entirely for real". It's not the result of great suffering on Bruce's part though" ...but results in great suffering on Bruce's listeners! (I mean "In Esse"; I actually love "Insiding", but "In Esse" and "heavy" tracks on "Music for Fruit" is something else) And Keith went over Clash albums: >The Clash - sounded dated by the following year. Some good songs, but >what a weedy production. (compare with Bollocks? no comepetition) I think both Bollocks and The Clash are fucking great albums with irresistible poppy songs (but I only heard US version, though). Who cares about PRODUCTION when you have the tunes??? >Give 'Em Enough Rope - Over-produced and under-written. Agreed here. Though "Judy is in drug squad" is a great tune. >London's Burning - the most over-rated album ever? Great opening couple >of tracks and then we're quickly back to Clash-by-numbers songs. Not >even the best Clash album, let alone the best album ever... I do agree with the middle of the album being Clash-by-numbers but "London Calling", "Jimmy Jazz", "Spanish Bombs", "Lost in the Supermarket", "Train in Vain".... yummy... >Sandinista - Some great tracks, but way way too much fodder.... So what? The fodder is WAY better than pretty much 95% of stuff you hear on the radio and if you don't like it - just sort it out! It's not a great album, sure, but a pretty decent one, especially considering the price. >Combat Rock - at last. A Clash album where the fast forward button is >not required The first 4 or 5 songs are great, but I can listen to the rest only in certain moods and totally can't stand it in others. Don't bother with "Cut the crap" except for the anthemic "We are the Clash". Summaring - while "London Calling" is not the greatest, it is still very good to excellent and "The Clash" is just fucking great! Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:36:52 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: [idealcopy] OT Bad band member names (Was Bad Band Names) Step forward Rodney Dangerous, now appearing on the 'new' Chrome ("featuring Damon Edge and Helios Creed") album 'Angel of the Clouds' Somebody have a word... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:36:52 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] An Encounter with an Angel? Eric in Toronto...on the art of stopping... >But then it dawned on me with all of the Catho-licks around. Myself being >lapsed, thought of one of the favourite methods of Catho-lick birth >control: withdrawal. That must be it. it certainly would carry the 'science v. faith' thread on from 'Kidney Bongos' and 'In Vivo' amongst others... thought i'd share this one with you all...here on Merseyside we call that particular art of stopping, 'getting off at Edge Hill'... so called, because this is the last-but-one train station on the main line into Liverpool... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:45:54 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Bad band member names (Was Bad Band Names) still think you can't beat angletrax bassist (?) jerry minge. p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:18:24 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards AndrewW... >Point taken: the thing is, even a band like the Strokes (good tunes, shame >about the image - I'm susceptible to guilty pop thrills, hi Keith!) are in >some way less pernicious than Blink-182, as they're making no effort to >hijack a movement, they're just basically chancing their arm and trying to >grab as much rock'n'roll excess for themselves as they can. > >In some ways, I'm a lot less offended by that *lack* of ambition: the Hives >self-mythologise, but they're very aware of what they're doing and relying >on people humouring them and playing along with the joke. Bizarrely, I >think I can respect that. interesting thoughts on all this stuff so far, Andrew. as for the above, i've been 'guilty' of actually enjoying all the bands mentioned there at some point during the past year, and, as you quite rightly say, for pure 'pop' thrills, nothing more nothing less. as much as i love The Strokes LP (and IMO its one the most 'playable' LP's i've heard in a long time...), they're about as 'punk' as my mum. as far as music in general goes, whether its 'dumb-ass' (say...'G.L.C.' by Menace...) or 'intellectual' (...'Damaged Goods', Go4...to use a couple of 'punk' examples...) i love them both equally, just depends what mood i'm in...sorry, but i've neither the time or the energy to go any deeper than this right now. though i'd like to, believe me...then again, i doubt if i could articulate what being 15 in 1977 really was like, without getting all dewy-eyed about it, i'm at a funny age... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:17:06 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards > > > > > > In the absence of commitment, > > > > > > we can pretend nothing matters... > > > > > > Sounds more like laziness to me, young man. Get your haircut and get a > > > > bloody job ; ) > > > > > > I have, and I have. > > > > I'm pleased to hear it. A spell in the army wouldn't go amiss though ; ) > > It's temporary. I go back to being a full-time student in October... > (PhD in Mineral Sciences, still in Cambridge.) > Ah. So you were just teasing me, andrew! Students. Bah! On a different note, I heard on the radio earlier that Cambridge has been voted best city in UK, based on a number of different factors (no. of clubs etc per head, no. of schools, unfilled jobs, etc etc). I think Edinbugh was 2nd, Manchester 3rd. London was down at no. 9 due to it's over-crowding and crime. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:56:37 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT-punknstuff... further again...AndrewW... >My generation wear cynicism like a shield: it's our natural way >of looking at, and defending ourselves, from the world. In the absence >of commitment, we can pretend nothing matters... (...and further to KeithA's fashion comments re wearing 'drainies', i remember the first time wearing a pair of them, along with a 'hairy' jumper and...ahem...a necklace made of wooden-peg springs...) two things come to mind... 1. it *was* seen as a threat to society, honest...hard to imagine now, but, like they say, you had to be there... 2. it was also akin to 'coming out of the closet'. it took real guts to go out in public dressed like that (yep, i know, sounds pathetic...). i dont know if this is the case for 'mosh-kids' like my 12 yr old now, but, the constant threat of physical violence was scary but exhilarating and also a total vindication of what we were doing in our own little ways... which brings me to that last point about 'commitment'...thats exactly what it was (for me anyway), total commitment to 'the cause' (whatever that was...) ...and *that* little dream soon got washed away with the floodwaters of commercial enterprise...and personally, that was where Joy Division came in. they seemed to sum up the death of the punk dream...'it was over as soon as it had begun'...and i, for one, suddenly realised that fact and mourned (with 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'Closer' as the main soundtrack to 78-79-80-81, the 'post-punk' years)...'post-punk' because punk was dead... ...and i said i didnt have the time or the energy...and on top of that i've sacrificed the first 15-20 minutes of 'Six Feet Under' for this... ahahaha..how appropriate... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:00:40 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:17:06PM +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: > On a different note, I heard on the radio earlier that Cambridge has been > voted best city in UK, based on a number of different factors (no. of clubs > etc per head, no. of schools, unfilled jobs, etc etc). I think Edinbugh was > 2nd, Manchester 3rd. London was down at no. 9 due to it's over-crowding and > crime. So, that's my adoptive home town and place of birth. Clearly, people just want to live in the same town as me, or something.[1] - - Andrew [1] This is slightly (read entirely) false. - -- "Dissect a trillion sighs away - well, you got this letter, Jagged pulse slicing my veins; I write to remember." - At the Drive-In, "One Armed Scissor" ('Relationship of Command') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:41:57 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] An Encounter with an Angel? In a message dated 7/29/02 4:36:51 PM, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: >thought i'd share this one with you all...here on Merseyside we call that > >particular art of stopping, 'getting off at Edge Hill'... >so called, because this is the last-but-one train station on the main line > >into Liverpool... haha, that's great! we could probably all customize it to fit our own, um, regions. here on long island (heading towards manhattan) it could be "getting off at woodside" and the possibilties are nearly endless when it, ur, comes to the new york subway system. i'll have to see what the most amusing stop names would be. - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:45:52 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] ot- sandanista In a message dated 7/29/02 8:42:52 AM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >Ambitious is > >one word to describe a triple album. Self-indulgent would be my choice... wasn't the triple lp an attempt to satisfy a record contract they wanted out of? - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bored of Canada C.D/here we go again........ - --- Mr Grumpy wrote: > Do all of their cds sound like this? I am surprised > anyone would buy more than one. > BTW, I am not a fan of theirs. > > MG > I'm suprised anyone would even buy one,but hey,one mans meat is,as the french would say,another man's fish.Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:54:57 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: SV: [idealcopy] new on the list In a message dated 29/07/2002 12:13:05 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > Nope, that was long raincoats. A very different concept!!! > > Mark > Now I'm thinking of Fields Of The Nephilim...God Help Me ! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:55:54 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] M25 In a message dated 29/07/2002 12:13:36 GMT Daylight Time, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com writes: > Tebbit Under Rubble > Excellent. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Anorak Awards... on punk - --- Eric Klaver wrote: > Punk, like any good religion, is apersonal, immediate > experience. > > Eric in Toronto Beautifuly put Eric.Ari in N.C ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:42:59 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Flaming Minogue Magog Robert wrote: >uh...the flaming lips doing "Can't Get You Out of My Head"???...*shudder* >...bastards... Don't worry Robert, they did it as a lumbering dirge, with orchestral crescendo's. They performed in front of footage of a womans arse. Possibly a comment on British media obsession with Kylie's bottom. I rather like the song anyway. Number Two: Whats a Magog? Sounds like some sort of drink, Real Ale or something. Or a dodgy Prog Rock band. Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:07:25 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bored of Canada C.D In a message dated 29/07/2002 15:11:56 GMT Daylight Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > think Boards of Canada are wonderful...i like mostly everything they have > done...however, my only complaint (as with most electronica) is that i wish > > they would not feel the need to make such longs albums...8 good tracks with > > no fodder would be great... > > RL > Totally agree.Geogaddi still has the most impressive music released in 2002 for me at the moment.R & B 1 is a very close second. NP Squarepusher ; Go Plastic Schwing !!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:11:18 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: SV: [idealcopy] new on the list In a message dated 7/29/02 2:45:15 AM, eilivk@sensewave.com writes: > > >and thanks - takk hey! and welcome to the idealcopy list, eiliv. i wonder if you (or someone else here) could help decipher/translate what kristen from mum wrote on my cd. she spoke/sang in a very soft, small voice, and she wrote even softer and smaller: takk fyrir mig (this is what i think it says) tatt fyri(?) mig (this is what it looks like) the first word i just assumed to be takk (thanks?), although i searched an icelandic online dictionary and takk isn't in there. the second/third word may be one or two words. i'm not sure. either way, the 5th letter is hard to make out (i assume it might be an "r" because several dictinary entries begin with "fyrir" my best guess is that it translates to "thanks for coming" any help would be appreciated, as she's absolutely adorable, and i want to make sure it doesn't translate to "leave your wife and run away with me" before i do something drastic ;o) - -paul (ich bin ein berliner) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Andrew wrote......... Some of us, of course, such as myself, speak altogether too much; but sometimes I suspect I'm not saying very much at all, just making hollow noise. - - Andrew Thought provoking thoughts whether we agree or not,are never 'hollow noises'one man's Punk,likewise,to those who truly love it/get it,aren't either.Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:12:35 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair Saw a great program once which featured a number of confirmed Anoraks, whose hobby was to travel the UK following, (and in some cases meticulously documenting and photographing) the Radio One Roadshow*. One Anorak wasn't interested so much in the show, but had armfuls of photographs of the trucks and rigging behind the roadshow, which he had taken over the years and was gleefully showing them off to cheif roadie, Smiley Miley! Anoraks can also be found at record fairs. Last time I went, one such soap-dodging rainproof sociopath slithered up next to where I was browsing and asked the vendor if he had 'Any unusual Olivia-Newton John'? I vowed never to go to a record fair again, and I never have. Don't bother, you'll never find any Wire stuff, except for the mountains of CD copies of Eardrum Buzz and Kidney Bingoes. They are just full of blokes in shrunken Marillion T-Shirts stretched over their enormous guts, moaning about the prices on E-bay and haggling over Japanese imports of Boyzone CDs, while their long suffering wives pack up mountains of Bruce Springsteen bootleg VHS tapes into their boxes ready for the next day in Doncaster. Brrrr.....Is it cold in here or is it me? _________________- * Not sure if this is a uniquely British phenomenon, The Radio One roadshow happened every summer throughout the 70s and 80s where 'Personality' DJs from Britains cheesiest music station (DLT, David 'Kid' Jensen, Tony Blackburn et al) would travel to flyblown seaside resorts, play a few records, introduce the local mayor and conduct competitions and generally make low-budget merry...to massive provincial audiences who probably had never seen anything quite so exciting in their lives. Bizarrely, John Peel was occasionally roped in to 'Join in the Fun' (the 'Fun' once famously involving The Bay City Rollers skirting across a lake driven by a bloke dressed as a Womble, while members of the BBC Deap-Sea Diving team attempted to act as 'security' guards and prevent teenage Rollermaniacs from drowning in the freezing waters attempting to reach their heroes....true story!). The new post-post-modern, yoof demographic R1 has ditched the format in favour of a hideous Ministry of Creamfields style hardcore bimbo-house drug fest for the UK Garage massive, called 'One Big Sunday'. featuring todays 'in-touch-with-da-kids' R1s specialist 'Jocks' like the dreaded (and much maligned on this list) Tim Westwood playing MP3s properly mixed together in a boringly knowing and slick manner. Boo! ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:15:05 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-punknstuff... ...Andrew...!!! >Firstly: sorry... I should post less to the list. > >Sorry about you missing your programme. :( ...please, stop apologising...!!! ;) and keep posting... (they're being read even if we can't always reply...) if i didn't want to reply, i really wouldn't have done...!!! if any of the posts from the older faction of IC-ers helps you even get a hint of what 'it' was like, then thats fine by me...it's history... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bored of Canada C.D/o.k Paul.......... I've got Exodus Kaya Legend Natty Dread Uprising and Dreams of Freedom,an 'Ambient Translation of Bob Marley in Dub' Taken and 're-engineered' frome Bob's original tapes by Bill Laswell at the behest of the Marley family,it really is quite brilliant. I'd love a copy of Natty Dread and Babylon by bus,and anything else your bro comes up with,I'll trade you one for one,'K?Ari - --- Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/29/02 6:00:23 AM, > luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: > > >Was it you Paul wanted........a copy of a Board of > >Canada C.D,seems the guy that was sent it by the > guy I > >sent it to (he didn't like it either)has sent it > back > >to the guy I sent it to so I can send it on to you > >when I get it. > >contact me if you dare so I can send it on to > you.Ari > > it was i, ari, who said i was interested in boards > of canada, so if you > received the cd back from the guy who sent it to the > guy who sent it back to > the guy you sent it to, then i'll gladly accept it > at that point or > thereafter :o) > > and tell me again which marley you already have, and > also if there are any > you know you want for sure. otherwise, i'll trust my > brother's opinion on > which to burn for you first. > > -paul ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-punknstuff... I once had a German girlfriend who told me that the British were always saying 'sorry'..............Ari--- "ian.s. jackson" wrote: > ...Andrew...!!! > > >Firstly: sorry... I should post less to the list. > > > >Sorry about you missing your programme. :( > > ...please, stop apologising...!!! ;) and keep > posting... > (they're being read even if we can't always > reply...) > if i didn't want to reply, i really wouldn't have > done...!!! > if any of the posts from the older faction of IC-ers > helps you even get a > hint of what 'it' was like, then thats fine by > me...it's history... > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: Re: [Shriek_Digicon] A3 on the SKIDS (o/t)/Larry Love - --- Scott wrote: > To: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com > From: Scott > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:32:59 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [Shriek_Digicon] A3 on the SKIDS > (o/t)/Larry Love > > > this came to me from the A3 group. Apparently it is > not a joke. Larry Love of A3 is in the hospital with > total kidney failure and isnt expected to survive. > This unfortunately (per the A3 website: Alabama 3 > Penitentiary), means the demise of A3. > > Alabama State Penitentiary No3 > Monday July 29 2002 > > --------------------------------- > > > News Bulletin > > WANTED: LARRY LOVE LOOKALIKE WITH 2 KIDNEYS > The Alabama State Penitentiary has today announced > the sad news about Larry Love. > > > Over the last 48 hours Larry Love has been seen > repeatedly by a local doctor concerning a > catastophic failure of his kidneys. > > > Speaking as a regular visitor and friend, Rantin > Richie was reported as saying at an international > press conference "This tragdy is certain to spell > the demise of the Alabama 3" > > > > "It's a rare man who won't tamper with perfection." > - Carl Marsh > "The only way to rid yourself of temptation is to > give in to it." - (paraphrased from Oscar Wilde) > ViSiT mE aT :::::: http://atlringz.tripod.com/ > (beware!) > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:06:40 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- sandanista >>one word to describe a triple album. Self-indulgent would be my choice... > >wasn't the triple lp an attempt to satisfy a record contract they wanted out >of? > The Clash have always had two sides to every story. Side 1 - we had an overabundance of material, and rather than deny you, the listener, a chance to find a song you might really like, we'll put 'em all out for you, and let you sort through it. Side 2 - We owe Epic 3 more records on our contract - maybe a triple album will satisfy them. (It didn't). There's similar double-speak about the reasons The Clash have never reformed. Side 1 - Paul Simonon has been doing art for so long that he has no interest in bass playing, and without Paul, it just wouldn't be right. It's better to leave it as it is, rather than recapture past glories. Side 2 - According to an interview I read with Strummer - if some combination of Paul, Joe, & Mick are in the same room recording - Strummer gave the magic number as "2 people" - then it "automatically" becomes the Clash, and Sony owns the rights to anything they do. This explains the Strummer's production only credit for B.A.D.'s album - if he played on it, then it automatically became the Clash. Knowing Strummer's intense dislike of corporate labels, they'll probably never reform again for this reason. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 01:53:59 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair > Bizarrely, John Peel was occasionally roped in to 'Join in the Fun' (the > 'Fun' once famously involving The Bay City Rollers skirting across a lake > driven by a bloke dressed as a Womble, while members of the BBC Deap-Sea > Diving team attempted to act as 'security' guards and prevent teenage > Rollermaniacs from drowning in the freezing waters attempting to reach > their heroes....true story!). I recall Peel telling this tale on the radio a few years back. I was howling! The Rollers were on an island and the girls were trying to swim across to them. And I think the bloke driving the boat whilst dressed as a Womble was someone like DLT or Tony Blackburn, whilst a bewildered Peel was wondering just what to make of it all. You couldn't make it up, could you... Regret never having gone now ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:58:30 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair > >>Saw a great program once which featured a number of confirmed Anoraks, > whose hobby was to travel the UK following, (and in some cases meticulously > > documenting and photographing) the Radio One Roadshow*. One Anorak wasn't > interested so much in the show, but had armfuls of photographs of the > trucks and rigging behind the roadshow, which he had taken over the years > and was gleefully showing them off to cheif roadie, Smiley Miley!<< A perfectly reasonable thing for any self-respecting Anorak to do. I could offer further explanation, but you lot might get the wrong idea ;-) > >>Anoraks can also be found at record fairs. Last time I went, one such > soap-dodging rainproof sociopath slithered up next to where I was browsing > and asked the vendor if he had 'Any unusual Olivia-Newton John'?<< Eeeww... >>I vowed never to go to a record fair again, and I never have. Don't bother, > > you'll never find any Wire stuff, except for the mountains of CD copies of > Eardrum Buzz and Kidney Bingoes.<< Oh I don't know. I saw a box full of mint vinyl P'Os a couple of years ago and I picked up the Michael O'Shea album on original vinyl for a quid a while back... But then again I am afflicted. I like record fairs, anoraks 'n' all! > > >>They are just full of blokes in shrunken Marillion T-Shirts stretched > over > their enormous guts, moaning about the prices on E-bay and haggling over > Japanese imports of Boyzone CDs, while their long suffering wives pack up > mountains of Bruce Springsteen bootleg VHS tapes into their boxes ready for > > the next day in Doncaster. > Brrrr.....Is it cold in here or is it me?<< A most chillingly accuracte snapshot of British life. But better than watching Big Brother and spending all your money on mobile phones and gym shoes though... > _________________- > >>* Not sure if this is a uniquely British phenomenon, The Radio One > roadshow > happened every summer throughout the 70s and 80s where 'Personality' DJs > from Britains cheesiest music station (DLT, David 'Kid' Jensen, Tony > Blackburn et al) would travel to flyblown seaside resorts, play a few > records, introduce the local mayor and conduct competitions and generally > make low-budget merry...to massive provincial audiences who probably had > never seen anything quite so exciting in their lives. > > Bizarrely, John Peel was occasionally roped in to 'Join in the Fun' (the > 'Fun' once famously involving The Bay City Rollers skirting across a lake > driven by a bloke dressed as a Womble, while members of the BBC Deap-Sea > Diving team attempted to act as 'security' guards and prevent teenage > Rollermaniacs from drowning in the freezing waters attempting to reach > their heroes....true story!).<< Remember Peel deadpanning this story. I thought it was Kid Jensen and Peter Powell waterski-ing past (towed by Womble-driven boat) as the BCRs mimed Shang-a-Lang from across the teenybopper-filled lake. Peel realised the game was up at that point... > >>The new post-post-modern, yoof demographic R1 has ditched the format in > favour of a hideous Ministry of Creamfields style hardcore bimbo-house drug > > fest for the UK Garage massive, called 'One Big Sunday'. featuring todays > 'in-touch-with-da-kids' R1s specialist 'Jocks' like the dreaded (and much > maligned on this list) Tim Westwood playing MP3s properly mixed together > in a boringly knowing and slick manner. Boo!<< No contest to guess the mileage Timmy had been driving before he "took ah booleht" in the 'hood (Weston-super-Mare)? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:58:12 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- sandanista In a message dated 7/29/02 8:07:47 PM, paulp@wrq.com writes: >According to an interview I read with Strummer - if >some combination of Paul, Joe, & Mick are in the same room recording - >Strummer gave the magic number as "2 people" - then it "automatically" >becomes the Clash, and Sony owns the rights to anything they do. holy hell, could that be true?? can sony really own the rights to ANY work done by any two of three particular people? sounds like something the guys could have worked out legally, in their favor, if there really was a desire to work together again. - -paul c.d. n.p. long time ago- american songs by aaron copeland, performed by the st paul chamber orch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:20:37 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair In a message dated 7/29/02 7:59:15 PM Central Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > I like record fairs, anoraks 'n' all! > > > > >>They are just full of blokes in shrunken Marillion T-Shirts stretched > > over > > their enormous guts, moaning about the prices on E-bay and haggling over > > Japanese imports of Boyzone CDs, while their long suffering wives pack up > > > mountains of Bruce Springsteen bootleg VHS tapes into their boxes so record fairs are the same all around the world then?...hahaha rl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:19:03 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Anorak Roadshow and Record Fair In a message dated 7/29/02 7:59:15 PM Central Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > >>I vowed never to go to a record fair again, and I never have. Don't > bother, > > > > you'll never find any Wire stuff, except for the mountains of CD copies > of > > Eardrum Buzz and Kidney Bingoes.<< > hey! i'd like to have those! RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:59:26 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] OT-punknstuff... ian sj >>...and *that* little dream soon got washed away with the floodwaters of commercial enterprise... 'and now it's buy your punk in woolworths' - Patrik Fitzgerald (Grubby Stories 1979) A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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