From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #242 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 05 : Number 242 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] nice review [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Wire tickets on sale momentarily [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: OT - Black/Its Immaterial ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Contemporary Art Fragments ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Future Sound of London [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Explosions in the Sky & Nina Nastasia ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Bootleg B'dum ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] OT(ish) - old band saga...everybody needs a... ["ian.s. jacks] Re: [idealcopy] Explosions in the Sky & Nina Nastasia [Andrew Walkingshaw] [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] to paraphrase gentle giant... ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] (Ideal Copy) ICA [jez ] [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London (OT) [Mr Grumpy ] [idealcopy] Prodding the Digest for more ICA reports [Tim WIRE "Read & Burn" CD **** Pinkflag, 2002 Reviewed by Stephen Rowland This is so fucking brilliant I can hardly BREATHE. This is the type of music that makes all other music worthless, so to all you bands out there that aren't Wire, here's some advice: throw away your fucking instruments, curl up into a ball, and die. We don't need you, because Wire are back. They'll be hitting San Francisco on tour sometime in September, and I flog myself at night in anticipation of the sheer ecstasy that experience will be. To tide us over in the meantime, they've released "Read & Burn," a brutal, awe-inspiring tease of a disc that is, without hesitation, the best material they've released since 1979's "154," their crowning achievement. Eschewing all techno bullshit, "Read & Burn" returns to the straight-ahead, minimal art punk of their debut, "Pink Flag." It's not a pathetic rehash, or a sigh-of-relief novelty cum, however; completely new ground is being tread here, in typical Wire fashion. None of their records sound the same, and in the span of their 25 (or so) year career, they've continually reinvented themselves, generally with excellent results. This time around, they've somehow achieved reinvention within a return to form. Blazing through 6 break-neck tracks of geometric punk rock, "Read & Burn" is probably the most exasperating 18-minute experience you could imagine. Sonically, at least. If I sound like I'm gushing sickly, it's because I am. When one of the greatest bands of all time regroup and release one of their greatest records out of the blue, what the fuck do you expect? Buy this now. Buy it and love it or you're fucking shameful. This record is great enough to make that snap judgement: if you don't like it, I don't like you. - ------------- hey i think he likes it. review / thoughts to follow about the ICA when i have more time but hi to everybody who made it , maybe the biggest turnout yet of the IC Massive. great night , p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:45:16 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chicago Wire tickets on sale momentarily thanks for the link Miles! got my ticket for Chicago! i'm sure August will seem to take forever...even more than it already does here in St. Louis...i wonder if we will be treated to some Colin, Bruce or Graham solo stuff beforehand? I know some of you said they are...(and that you thought it was arty bollocks)...i would be quite happy if this were the case... Robert (i wonder if the illuminated goose has been retired? i wonder if it's for sale!?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:07:56 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: OT - Black/Its Immaterial > Ian and MarkB discuss Black... .> Mark > >>along with a couple of the later singles up to the pre-fame 'Hey > >Presto'. at one point i thought they were really good, this was when they > >had ex-Teardrop Explodes drummer Gary Dwyer playing with them. I thought 'Rocky' Dwyer was an amazing drummer, who has never received the plaudits he deserved. One of the (many) reasons I love Kilimanjaro and Wilder so much are the great little fills he does. Always worthwhile, never fussy... He was a ski instructor last I heard... >> i was privy > >to the demo's of this period, they were pretty interesting and nothing like > >the schmaltz of 'Wonderful Life'.<< Wonderful Life was shmaltzy, but I still thought it a really good superior pop 45. > uh huh...as well as the above, it turns out i only have 'More Than The Sun' > on The Wonderful World Of... Records, which was the Warners off-shoot > mentioned, i think, and 'Hey Presto' on Eternal... It sounds like Ian has a different copy to me. Mine has a BLACK 1 catalogue no., but is just on WEA. No mention of Wonderful World at all. B/W Butterfly Man. > > >>...and don't ask what the old bands name was. i break out in a rash > >every time i see or hear the word come on IC-ers. we can't let him off the hook that easily...What were they called???? > >Wasn't the Epileptic Tits, was it? ;-) > > i wish...almost joined a band called Pubic Dandruff once, sadly it never was > to be, i refused to wear bondage kecks... :-) I was in a punk band called Erection, though I told my parents we hadn't decided on a name! That's what a wild 16 yr old I was ; ) I was later in a band that briefly called ourselves Ooh You Handsome Slug (as a sort of backhanded tribute to The Smiths) in 1983, before settling on something altogether more sensible... Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:06:54 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] WARP tour..LFO, Chris Clark, Luke Vibert etc. Is anyone else going to the WARP records tour date in Chicago Friday August 2nd?..If all these acts actually make the trip it should be a great night!...nice to see LFO (THE LFO...not that yucky boy band!) back together! Chris Clark should be mind blowing live....interested in what Luke Vibert's style will be like on that night as well....don't really like Prefuse 73...the rest should all be pretty decent..a good night out if nothing else... WARP RECORDS USA TOUR. YO! Get ready to rock.. strictly no chin-stroking! The Warp live experience is heading stateside. WHO: DJ Ease (NOW), LFO, Prefuse 73, Luke Vibert, Jamie Lidell, Richard Devine, Chris Clark, Boom Bip, Nautilis, Dntel & Sote. WHERE: 7/31 -- New York // Shelter Tickets: Other Music, www.othermusic.com, Ticketweb. 8/01 -- Toronto // Phoenix Tickets: www.ticketmaster.com Rotate This!, Soundscape, CD Replay. 8/02 -- Chicago // Metro Tickets: www.ticketmaster.com, Clubhouse. 8/03 -- Los Angeles // Mobius Tickets: This is Music, www.elmconceptions.com. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:26:37 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] nice review PaulRabjohn@aol.com sent in a review from Sex 'n' Guts: > Reviewed by Stephen Rowland Distant cousin? Long-lost twin brother? > ...Blazing through 6 break-neck tracks of geometric punk rock, > "Read & Burn" is probably the most exasperating 18-minute > experience you could imagine. Hopefully he meant to say "exhilarating"! John "another the former proofreader" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:29:32 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Contemporary Art Fragments MAIN CAST (in order of appearance) EG Lewis as Ambassador for Twin Kingdoms BC Gilbert as Chewing Man in Black Colin Newman as Re(a)d baSTARd Robert Grey as The Man Whose Drum Kit Expanded On Arrival Dot Dash Don't Crash Scrapheap Train pulls into Mercy red Wirefan Arrival Ritual: Whistling Outdoor Miner on the long platform Three Hours Fast Forward Dark room black painted walls Twin screens mock mirror flicker Scenes of hard life in a country Iain Sinclair softly relates the Thatcher Curse Gilbert drone ambience supports the notion Of Time as Spatial Dimension Bumpy knows Dre to be Fat Controller Marshalled the Tank Engine The fakefat peroxide rapper revealed As Organ Grinder's Monkey The little baffled flag cartoon Fluttered in Immersion The way ahead uncertain? Germ Ship shifted gear Gilbert guitar solo fear Inadvertant comedy turn "Shall we do Germ Ship next?" asks Bruce after Germ Ship Mr Marx's Table left in a mess (the new 40 Versions?) Colin in Read and Burn colours for Bastard T-shirt (Red read against grey) Meandered off the track to monitor Vox Hell Aliens crawled aboard bad sign Lewis sweats it all over KREV vest 1st Fast ignition Read and Burn harder (later and a little longer?) Skeletal Gilbert shadow looms on black wall Art approaches speed stops of recording I Don't Understand (the new Mercy?) Lewis acts out confused sobs for a break Over the Edge Collapsing barrier: That's the Lowdown! Citizen of KREV conquers red slave trade Selling a river of monstrous effects Pedal punches into largest Flag yet The crowd roar would not die Despite the cut throat gesture WIRE returned to Drill fast Colin's head jerks of old Fragments of You Level? You Never Know Supporting Cast (in order of appearance) Aneeta Ahluwalia as Old Friend Susan Stenger as Ever Malka Spigel as Lady with Video Camera Kevin S Eden as Organised Observer with Programme Paul Smith as Man with Cut Throat Gesture Mark Bursa as Jovial Presence Paul Rabjohn as Yak Man Alistair Tear as Witness to Notre Dame Fact Alistair's Friend Karen as Quiet Smoking Lady Bald Pogo Blokes as Pink Flag Bouncers Uri Baran as Man with MiniDisc Jan J Noorda as Travelling Man Bumpy as Organ Grind Offspring Mark McQuitty and Howard Spencer as Ideal Faces Nendie as Green Zine Queen Andrew Jacques as These Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:35:11 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Future Sound of London pardon this post for those of you who think FSOL are shite.. does anyone out there have the new Future Sound of London cd: The Isness as well as the Papua New Guinea Translations cd ep that came out recently? if so, can anyone help me out? i want to hear them before i hunt them down... thanks, Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:26:50 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Explosions in the Sky & Nina Nastasia Explosions in the Sky are a Texan band with their second album 'Those who tell the truth shall die, Those who tell the truth shall live forever' on Temporary Residence www.temporaryresidence.com As far as the Mogwai comparison goes, they're more in the loud Young Team end of things (best Mogwai album by far imo), but they have a definite Godspeed apocalyptic slant to it. I've played the album 5 times through consecutively, so its pretty damn good! Rob Devlin reviewed it on the Brain maybe 5-6 months ago... there were sound samples with the review which give a pretty good indication of the album. Nina Nastasia played ATP w/e 1 same day as Wire - caught her set & quite enjoyed it, and drummer from Dirty 3 plays in her band which is reason enough to go see 'em. She plays country influenced emotive songs. Rob Devlin also reviewed her album on the Brain a few months back. www.brainwashed.com/brain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:24:51 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire @ ICA Bart's brother wrote: >I heard they have a new cd out as well called Rip & Burn or something So they weren't selling it at the show? Would they bring it to US? Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:29:07 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bootleg B'dum a pedany re-visits the scene of a former crime... >The singer out of Slipknot went around to see the pope, and the pope said >to his aid: >"Who the fuckin' 'ell are Slipknot?" actually its '...went to Rome to see the Pope...'... i'm sure your lives are all enriched by this correction... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:32:12 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bootleg B'dum me...just now... >a pedany re-visits the scene of a former crime... thats 'pedant'...i'd like to apologise for this gross slip-up...it was largely due to a hormonal 14 yr-old daughter...i thank you... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:44:30 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT(ish) - old band saga...everybody needs a... KeithA... >come on IC-ers. we can't let him off the hook that easily...What were they >called???? hahaha...you've got no chance mate...we weren't THAT well known anyway or that good... i've already refused to divulge this info to several IC-ers... ...however...(and if you've heard this one already, apologies...) we DID namecheck Wire as a prime influence in our one and only NME feature/interview... (fade into echoey, manic shrieking and laughing...) ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:53:18 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Explosions in the Sky & Nina Nastasia On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 06:26:50PM +0100, Bill Hick wrote: [Explosions in the Sky] > As far as the Mogwai comparison goes, they're more in the loud Young Team end > of things (best Mogwai album by far imo), I'm not quite so sure; there's a case to be made for Ten Rapid too, and my favourite *tracks* they've recorded are "Christmas Steps" and "My Father, My King", but MYT is probably their best *album* as a single entity. Is there any UK distribution for Temporary Residence? (On a side note, Fopp are opening up right in the centre of Cambridge, and there's a pretty good indie four hundred yards from me anyway. Life is looking up.) - --- Also, with ISJ's brush with celebrity, it's reminding me I always wanted to be in a band. Shame I have no confidence in either my singing or guitar-playing, though, and (as my posts prove) I'd be a godawful lyricist. I guess I'm not *too* bad on bass; but I don't have that in Cambridge, it's in Edinburgh... Those who can, do; those who can't write mailing list posts about it, I guess. (With a few honourable exceptions here. :) ) - - Andrew - -- "I'm not here; this isn't happening." - Radiohead, "How to Disappear Completely" ('Kid A') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:03:51 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London > does anyone out there have the new Future Sound of London cd: The Isness this is new to me. last I heard one member had been ill and FSOL were being talked of in the past sense. I'll keep an ear out... Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:28:32 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London In a message dated 7/22/02 3:56:17 PM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > this is new to me. last I heard one member had been ill and FSOL were being > talked of in the past sense. I'll keep an ear out... > > Keith > the album came out in June in the UK...due out in August over here in the USA RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:30:31 -0400 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Red Sails This brings up something I've been meaning to mention lately: I picked up a Harmonia album recently--been catching up with 70s Krautrock--and one of the pieces is a dead ringer for "Red Sails." Well, if you're going to steal, steal from the best. Robert (another) From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] NEU! keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > I hear Neu everywhere. Joy Division, New Order, Julian Cope circa > Jehovakill. Bowie's Red Sails (Lodger) is another that springs immediately > to mind... > don't forget the best NEU impersonators (don't get me wrong, i love them) of all: Tortoise ! RL *************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the individuals to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmission in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and all of its attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:40:14 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] to paraphrase gentle giant... To paraphrase Gentle Giant - and no I won't make a habit of it - "Two Weeks in France bow bow bow"... Arriving in Le Havre, I thought it appropriate to play something vaguely French, and as I'd forgotten to take any Air with me, the sound of Stereolab's Sound Dust accompanied us as we drove over the mighty fine Pont du Normandie suspension bridge. Bart would love this one! The other musical hilites of the journey were Rui Da Silva's dance anthem of 18 months ago - Touch Me - as we drove through a bright orange lit tunnel on the outskirts of Paris. God it was like something out of a cheap sci-fi movie, though being in Paris meant that we were lost, and as for Immersion as we headed down a French motorway at sunset - well it was like a slo-mo Koyanisquaatsi... I also kept the French connection thing going a bit with Kid Loco, Daft Punk and, ahem, Exile on Main Street. Here though are the things I've enjoyed listening to most recently... Beach Boys - Forever (Sunflower LP) The Dennis Wilson song that Brian sang earlier this year at the RFH, and like Den's contributions to Holland this is a real thing of beauty. If only Dennis had heeded the advice of side one, track one of Surf's Up * Dr Robert - Blue Skies (Birds Gotta Fly LP) I know I'm on solitary ground in the DR appreciation here, but this should have been the breezy summer hit of this year. Unfortunately, he released it round February in the biggest seasonal cock up since Wizzard sang "It's a wonderful Rock'n'Roll Winter" in the spring of '74... For Carnation - For Carnation LP I've said it before, but I'll say it again...this is my fave LP of the 21st century thus far. Quite possibly in my all time top 10, nestling somewhere between the first Only Ones album and Dusty in Memphis I reckon... Gloria Jones - Cry Baby (Bolan's Pure Magic) Stunning 'soul' piano and vocs version of the Vixen track. Loop Guru - Third Chamber (Duniya LP) The beautiful atmospheric 20 minute finale from LP's debut LP. And like a good bottle of red wine, an ideal accompaniment to a late night meal! The Move - I Can Hear The Grass Grow (Early Years LP) As I was about 6 yrs old when this was released, I can't really remember life before it. It's easy therefore to listens to things like that in a comfortable way - hear something so very familiar and just take it on face value...BUT this track just sounds so ALIVE, vital and imaginitive. The one Jeff Lynne track on this cheapo comp - What - sounds great too. The Strokes - Is This It LP Think I'm finally getting over my disappointment with this one after The Modern Age fueled my expectations to maybe ridiculous heights. Still wish it had a sharper, more energetic mix, but I've got a sneaky feeling it'll age OK. Tricky - For Real (Juxtapose LP) Not the equally great, but more dancy 45 version, this was the opening track of Tricky's 1999 album with the almost tribal beat. Unfortunately, I can't say the title out aloud without thinking of Ali G! Wire - Strange (Pink Flag LP) I introduced my 19 yr old son to the joys of the age old Spot The Flute on Strange game... So is anyone gonna throw some light on this one - is it the high-pitched echoey noise that sounds nothing like a flute, is it hidden somewhere in the mix or - is the flute theory just a blatant lie. (Or is everyone I know a bit on the deaf side?) The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - EP Take several Steve Jones powerchords, a few bars of Gary Gilmore's Eyes drum intro and a Siouxsie vocal (with just a twist of Lydia Lunch) and then blend it with some You Scare Me To Death panting. Add a touch of originality to give it it's very own flavour and you've got a pretty neat little ep... Incidentally, the people were very nice and thanked me for passing on Robert's World cup condolences ; ) Keith *Don't Go Near The Water ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:43:29 +0100 From: jez Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Contemporary Art Fragments on 22/7/02 6:29 pm, Bill Hick at umur_ot@hotmail.com wrote: > Bumpy knows Dre to be Fat Controller > Marshalled the Tank Engine apparently the Thomas stuff was done by Colin and Malkas son! I had this from the horses mouth. jez ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:50:01 +0100 From: jez Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (Ideal Copy) ICA on 21/7/02 8:59 pm, Ian B at ian@ibarrett.fsnet.co.uk wrote: > warm and friendly smile (close cropped hair, dark rimmed glasses)? could have been me - but I was well on the way to pissedville! I was caught out by early start (with no warning) some old punk guy was moaning - I overheard him say "it must be some kind of fucking student prank!" so I legged it downstairs with mates. what a fantastic set - although a little less intimate perhaps than Bristol. jez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr Grumpy Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London (OT) I heard the album was all re-recordings. Could this be correct? I have a new recording of 'Papua New Guinea' from last year. MG > In a message dated 7/22/02 3:56:17 PM Central > Daylight Time, > keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > > > this is new to me. last I heard one member had > been ill and FSOL were being > > talked of in the past sense. I'll keep an ear > out... > > > > Keith > > > > the album came out in June in the UK...due out in > August over here in the USA > > RL ===== /\/\/\ { . . } /\ -- -bollocks! (R)GWS Ltdhttp://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:10:34 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Prodding the Digest for more ICA reports I want to read some more reports from the ICA gig which I was unable to attend. So I'm posting random posts to see if I can push the next digest from the server. Gotta be worth a try. Makes a change from bickering with the Hickster We played a gig last week and the bloke taking the money on the door was the drummer out of the Pale Saints. How the mighty have fallen eh? The band on next week was Jim Bob from Carter USM with his new band. It was a very small venue...the guy headlined Glastonbury ten years ago! Anyone else seen any former indie stars recently who have fallen on hard times? Primal Screams last album was overly-bombastic, rubbish, and Kevin Sheilds is completely wasted on them. Its like Bruce Gilbert joining the Sterephonics. Bobby Gillespie is the worlds worst lyric writer. The f**king Thompson Twins had better lyrics. Right lets see if that does the trick. NP: Tresor 200: Scion Arranges and Processes Basic Channel Tracks: Bass-Heavy Berlin Electro Dub mixed to buggery by Scion, and very good too. ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:14:13 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Future Sound of London (OT) In a message dated 7/22/02 7:04:30 PM Central Daylight Time, xj23@yahoo.com writes: > I heard the album was all re-recordings. Could this be > correct? I have a new recording of 'Papua New Guinea' > from last year. > > MG > Translations is a re-recording of Papua New Guinea...Isness is a brand new album..it's supposedly 60's/70's psychedelic and kraut electronics influenced..(i.e. pink floyd, tangerine dream, klaus schulze..etc.)...got dissed on allmusic.com.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:21:23 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Red Sails In a message dated 7/22/02 6:32:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Robert.Cambra@harpercollins.com writes: > This brings up something I've been meaning to mention lately: I picked up a > Harmonia album recently--been catching up with 70s Krautrock--and one of > the > pieces is a dead ringer for "Red Sails." Well, if you're going to steal, > steal from the best. > > Robert (another) > > i think i read somewhere once that Bowie admitted a heavy influence of Neu/Harmonia on his "trilogy" of Lps he recorded in Berlin with Eno... Eno by the way, once said that Neu/Harmonia were the most important group/s of that time period...parts of some of the Bowie albums also sound like La Dusseldorf a bit... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:44:36 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Speaking of Recent Listening. here's some of my favorites as of late: Tarwater: Dwellers on the Threshold (mute advance promo...due sept 3rd) twisted and weird folksy electronic pop....lyrics delivered in monotone detached manner...oddly addicting though... Barry Adamson - King of Nothing Hill (mute advance promo...due August 20th) the king of imaginary noire soundtracks is back with another brilliant album...conjures up images of smoky bars, sultry temptresses, underworld deals with humans and devils for one's very soul! dark but funky and jazzy too... Schneider TM - Zoomer (mute advance promo...due August 20th) oddball electro pop...some parts even make me wanna break out the linoleum square and my adidas gear! John Zorn - IAO (THANKS ARI !!!) been meaning to check out more John Zorn and this is a wonderful start...hard to pin this one down because it has so many twists and turns...eerie electronics to tribal drumming....nice stuff.... John Cage - Four Walls beautiful piano pieces....not the usual avant garde experimentation that i have been exposed to....these are very Satie-esque....been reading up on Cage and apparently these pieces were written (along with Perilous Night) after the love of his life had left him...on Brainwashed.com they had a fun little poll: What dead musician would you most like to have dinner with: Karen Carpenter, Frank Tovey, John Cage, Kenny Loggins, Jaco Pastorius, John Watermann, Dee Dee Ramone..and John Cage is winning right now hands down..... RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 04:07:02 +0200 From: giluz Subject: [idealcopy] LATEST CONFIRMED WIRE DATES FOR NORTH AMERICA From PE: LATEST CONFIRMED WIRE DATES FOR NORTH AMERICA As at date of post - the following dates are now confirmed for Wire's North American tour in September 2002. SAT 7 SAN DIEGO CA - Casbah SUN 8 LOS ANGELES CA - El Rey Theater MON 9 SAN FRANCISCO CA - Fillmore TUE 10 SEATTLE WA - Showbox WED 11 PORTLAND OR - Crystal Ballroom FRI 13 MINNEAPOLIS MN - First Avenue SAT 14 CHICAGO IL - Metro SUN 15 TORONTO ON - Lee's Palace TUE 17 CAMBRIDGE MA - Middle East (Down) WED 18 NEW YORK NY - Irving Plaza THUR 19 PHILADELPHIA PA - Gasoline (Making Time event) FRI 20 WASHINGTON DC- 9:30 Club SAT 21 ATLANTA GA - Echo Lounge SUN 22 AUSTIN TX - La Zona Rosa These dates are ALL confirmed, contrary to whatever it says on Pollstar!! more dates plus details of special guests to follow - -- http://www.posteverything.com/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #242 *******************************