From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #205 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, June 22 2002 Volume 05 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... [Woerner Frank Braz [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Eng<->Braz ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... [Bart van Damme Braz [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] What's that shit? [Mark McQuitty ] [idealcopy] never mind [Alistair Tear ] [idealcopy] world cup [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] weltmeisterschaft [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] Re: Pixies Trompe le Voag ["Christopher Severson" ] Re: [idealcopy] What's that shit? [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] weltmeisterschaft [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] world cup [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] never mind my summerjacket [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] 6 Music Newsletter ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] a good 7 inches ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches suddenly pops it's head up [Bart van Damm] Re: [idealcopy] a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] world cup [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] OT-pixies reference obscured brainy piglove naziwilsowrongspunk ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page [Andrew Westmeyer Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... Me seems Robert was drunken again ... no mojo from him for Beckham & Co. Well, Germany will beat the US, will beat Spain and then -sigh- m_i_g_h_t beat Brazil. Remember, its not always the best team winning. Its the most effective team which wins. Shit: Audiogalaxy is dead ! I was still looking for "Work" from a group called Oxy & the Morons ... I taped it from John Peel sometime in the eighties. Anyone any idea where to get it? ... and just to be a little ontopic. After several listens to the r&b tracks I can't hear anything special in them. I'd say if it weren't Wire but some other unknown group releasing this cd noone of you guys would find them as interesting as you do now. I somehow have the impression: its Wire -> its a "must-like-it". regards, FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:45:11 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-pixies reference obscured ...webern > pixies = postpunk webern? Then Sonic Youth = Schoenberg/Ives ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:46:17 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] Eng<->Braz Oh dear oh dear... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:06:42 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eng<->Braz > Oh dear oh dear... > > Bart yep. crap wasn't it... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:07:49 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... > BTW - these are not the same versions you're used to. I think they're from > a series Gary Smith mentions in the liner notes to DTTP - the "Sing For > Your Supper" series. They feature just Black Francis on acoustic guitar. > (And, I think Gary saying "okay..." in the background) Black Francis alone playing Pixies material? Interesting! He's [as Frank Black] has appeared on dutch tv [2 meter sessions] playing Teenager of the Year stuff solo accoustic, but I liked it best when he presented 120 min. en played inbetween selected songs - still have it on video... Btw, did I hear Mrs. John Murphy say "oh FUCK" in the background of Is She Weird [at the BBC]? What did she break, a string, nail or baby? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:20:40 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... > FrankfromBavaria said > Well, Germany will beat the US, will beat Spain > and then -sigh- m_i_g_h_t beat Brazil. i was saying just before that although england had that amazing result last year, it looks like germany are gonna have the last laugh. > Remember, its not always the best team winning. > Its the most effective team which wins. which usually - alas - can mean only one thing...cue yet more despair heaped on english football supporters... > ... and just to be a little ontopic. > After several listens to the r&b tracks I can't > hear anything special in them. > I'd say if it weren't Wire but some other unknown > group releasing this cd noone of you guys would > find them as interesting as you do now. > > I somehow have the impression: its Wire -> its a "must-like-it". german football supporter, doesn't like wire's new album!?! you're not exactly setting out to make many friends here are you frank ; ) keep it up! keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:32:43 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eng<->Braz >> Oh dear oh dear... > yep. crap wasn't it... I'm afraid it was... Even Owen's goal was only because of a Brazilian mistake. Don't think I saw England before the Braz. keeper after that. Poor Seaman... but what a truely great action from Ronaldinho! And what a sucker ref. for giving him red. Man of the match? Must be Roberto Carlos. Never a shame to lose from Brazil though - they're just so bloody good, even when their team isn't playing at it's best [Belgium played better the other day]. In 1994 Holland lost from Brazil in the quarterfinals with 3-2 after wich of course Brazil played against Italy and won the cup with penalties, also 3-2. Bart NP: a serious of sssssshnakes - wire ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:35:38 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] What's that shit? I've really tried ignoring this shit but this... >>>From: "Bill Hick" >>>Subject: [idealcopy] Apokalypso Cup: The Vinyl Swore Can someone help me out here. What is all that pretentious shit about??!! We just lost and I'm in a BAD mood. MarkM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:38:54 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] SFT On a Wire related tip. Bruce gets a nice mention in the current issue of The Wire. Simon Fisher Turner does the Invisible Jukebox interview and talks about Bruce's contributions. Anyone else into SFT? I've got the Jarman soundtracks which are quite nice but I've not got much else by SFT. MarkM (Mood not improved much) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:14:30 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] never mind never mind the football... happy midsummer's day to everyone A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Mark (as pissed off as you are!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:32:42 +0200 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Keith Astbury [mailto:keith.astbury10@virgin.net] > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Juni 2002 11:21 > An: Woerner Frank; idealcopy@smoe.org > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... > german football supporter, doesn't like wire's new album!?! > > you're not exactly setting out to make many friends here are > you frank ; ) > > keep it up! > > keith So sorry ... ;-(( I belong to the "oldies-group" ... prefer pf, cm, 154, bought them when they were originally released. Saw Wire supporting Roxy Music before they split. ... those were the times ... when I still had hair ... ;-)) regards, FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:37:12 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] What's that shit? In a message dated 21/06/2002 11:24:58 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > << What is all that pretentious shit about??!! >> > > It's a pseudo-intellectual pissing contest. > > Mark (as pissed off as you are!) > It's a literal form of wanking with a Stanley Unwin mask on...if some of you know what I mean ... diddleypode hand shandying in the squiddlybush. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:18:39 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... > german football supporter, doesn't like wire's new album!?! > > you're not exactly setting out to make many friends here are > you frank ; ) > > keep it up! > > keith So sorry ... ;-(( don't apologise. i like it! >I belong to the "oldies-group" ... prefer pf, cm, 154, bought them >when they were originally released. me too, though it's a close call between 70's and 80's wire for me... >Saw Wire supporting Roxy Music before they split. now that's what I call a dream line-up! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:34:13 +0200 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] best of... > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Eardrumbuz@aol.com [mailto:Eardrumbuz@aol.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2002 04:46 > An: idealcopy@smoe.org > Betreff: [idealcopy] best of... > > > i've got 15 bucks burning a hole in my pocket. it also > occured to me that > june is almost done with, and it's a good time for the big > question...what > are everyone's 3 favorite releases for the first half of > 2002? i'm really > looking for new releases, but if you want to include reissues > or archive > recordings, make two top 3 lists :o) Like some others here I also listen a lot to the new Doves cd. Also good is the new cd from Archive. My third recommendation would be the new cd from Savoy Grand. regards, FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:23:02 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] world cup very unlucky Robert but I guess the usa done better than expected A still not convinced by this german team Frank ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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Eric in Toronto. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:45:37 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] weltmeisterschaft > very unlucky Robert > but I guess the usa done > better than expected > A Robert must've been drinking again instead of mojo-ing... Die Mannschaft played horribly but of course won! Congratulations Frank! [grind grind] I8-( Kasekopf Bart [donnerwettermitdeinehastlichegrossekartoffelnase] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:54:34 -0600 From: "Christopher Severson" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Pixies Trompe le Voag > It almost seems like Black Francis & Co. pretty much had the complete > blueprint for the band right at the beginning. I think they had also had a little help. Check out the L. Voag (homosexuals, die trip computer die, xenos, etc.) CD _The Way Out_ (alcohol, uk) - namely the songs from the rare 1979 singles that append the lp. Raw guitar, insane lyrics hollered a la Francis, half in spanish, etc., etc. Sounds exactly like acoustic pixies six years later. Black was asked about this in an interview (i prompted the question) and supposedly changed the subject rather quickly.....still doesn't lessen their output, but interesting all the same. Christopher. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:14:04 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] world cup > A > > still not convinced by this german team Frank i remember not being convinced by the german team in 1974 and 1990 ; ) keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:15:36 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] What's that shit? << Why are you guys taking this so seriously? >> We aren't! I'm enjoying it immensely... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:27:11 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] weltmeisterschaft > Robert (who is now saving his mojo powers for Senegal) I'LL DRINK TO THAT! [I'll drink to anything really] Bart ND: a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:30:33 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] world cup > i remember not being convinced by the german team in 1974 and 1990 ; ) > keith Boooohooooohooooo... he said 1974!!! Boooohooooo... :-* Bart [quick, another "Kanon"] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:37:05 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] never mind my summerjacket > never mind the football... > > happy midsummer's day to everyone > > A I'll drink to th..... I'll get me summerjacket Brt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:37:17 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] Bart drank thusly... >>ND: a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] I hope that you are using the correct trappist glass...:-] A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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Boooohooooo... :-* > > Bart [quick, another "Kanon"] sorry bart. it truly was a bad day for football! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:35:12 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] 6 Music Newsletter a few people of interest here? and don't forget the eric burdon interview! > - GLASTONBURY - > So by this time next week, the 6 Music advance party should be getting settled under the canvas and atop the tarpaulin in the heart of rural Somerset. We'll be live at the festival on Sunday 30 June with live shows from Liz Kershaw, Clare McDonnell and Chris Hawkins and a special edition of Dream Ticket featuring classic performances recorded at previous Glastonbury Festivals. There's a fantastic line-up of bands performing while we'll be on air from the festival, including Ash, Starsailor, Spiritualised, Doves, Coldplay, Roger Waters, Isaac Hayes, Ian Brown, Garbage & White Stripes. We're planning on bringing you highlights from many of those sets, so be sure to check the website from this coming Wednesday evening for our pre-Glastonbury festival survival guide, and then throughout next weekend for exclusive photos and on-the-spot reviews from festival goers. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/ > - GUESTS/LIVE MUSIC - > Some top-notch guests on 6 Music this weekend. Suzanne Vega joins Tracy MacLeod on Sunday morning for My Life in CD and Bruce Dickinson has interviews with Robert Plant on the Saturday Rock Show and Eric Burdon on the Sunday Freakzone. As for live music, Gideon Coe is joined by Longview (Monday), and Frou Frou (Wednesday) and Tom Robinson will have session tracks from The Bellrays and Ezio all week, plus studio guests No Doubt on Monday. The headline acts this week on Janice Long's Dream Ticket will include Fleetwood Mac, Average White Band and Peter Tosh. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/ > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/dream_ticket.shtml > - DOCUMENTARIES - > Every night Tom Robinson's show features a different music documentary about one of the landmark bands or genres of the last 40 years. Listen out from 2100 Monday-Thursday this week to hear definitive profiles of REM and Thin Lizzy > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/tom_robinson/ > > - COMING UP - > Glastonbury is just the tip of the iceberg for 6 Music's festival coverage this summer. In next week's newsletter we'll be able to reveal details of our presence at two other major festivals, so watch this space for more information. And over the next 7 days, Album of the Day will feature new releases from Space Monkeyz vs Gorillaz and Morcheeba and classics from Jimi Hendrix and the Smiths. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/joyof6.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:32:44 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] world cup > it truly was a bad day for football! From an english point of view perhaps, but it wasn't as if England deserved to win... What I found mostly dissapointing were the performances of both Beckham and Ronaldo. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:43:36 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches played a few wire 7" singles and their b-sides today. hadn't heard 'midnight bahnof cafe' and 'go ahead' in a long time - and 'pietta', which was never a personal fave, sounds better than ever. biggest thrill though was 'our swimmer', just waiting for that moment when everything stops and that funky little james brown riff suddenly pops it's head up. anticipation...and then... what a great moment. love it! think it could have become my fave wire single in fact... keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:36:38 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... > Btw, did I hear Mrs. John Murphy say "oh FUCK" in the background of Is She > Weird [at the BBC]? What did she break, a string, nail or baby? I think she played a wrong note. It's been a while since I listened to the Pixies at the BBC, but I seem to remember that she started playing the chorus instead of the next verse (or something like that). It was an audible mistake, from what I can remember anyway. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:38:03 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] > Bart drank thusly... >>> ND: a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] > > I hope that you are using the correct trappist glass...:-] > > A Can't even do THAT right! Bart [glugluglug - out of bottle - no worm - no blame] NP: The Popgroup - Where There's A Will [Slits on B-side] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:54:13 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] world cup > > it truly was a bad day for football! > > > From an english point of view perhaps, but it wasn't as if > England deserved to win... > What I found mostly dissapointing were the performances of > both Beckham and Ronaldo. > > Bart No not today - England were shite! They didn't deserve a place in the semi's... I meant - and, sorry, close your eyes here Bart - 1974, when that legendary Cruyff/Neeskens/Rep, etc Dutch team (2nd only to Brazil's 1970 classic line-up IMO) lost to that awful Liverpool FC...I mean...West German team. Ref starts off playing a blinder - gives Holland a pen in the opening minutes and then spoils it all by giving West Germany one too. British chap too I seem to recall. Never forgave him myself ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:51:19 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches suddenly pops it's head up > played a few wire 7" singles and their b-sides today. hadn't heard 'midnight > bahnof cafe' and 'go ahead' in a long time - and 'pietta', which was never a > personal fave, sounds better than ever. biggest thrill though was 'our > swimmer', just waiting for that moment when everything stops and that funky > little james brown riff suddenly pops it's head up. > > anticipation...and then... > > what a great moment. love it! > > think it could have become my fave wire single in fact... > > keith Was that the live B-side of Kidney Bongo's? Bart [played a Bell is a Cup this morning] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:57:28 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] In a message dated 6/21/02 11:38:24 AM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: << NP: The Popgroup - Where There's A Will [Slits on B-side] >> is this on any of the Popgroup lp's or cds? i don't remember and i am at work with no access to my record/cd collection.... now playing: POPOL VUH soundtrack to Werner Herzog's "Nosferatu" ...THANKS FERGUS!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:10:08 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] world cup >> From an english point of view perhaps, but it wasn't as if >> England deserved to win... >> What I found mostly dissapointing were the performances of >> both Beckham and Ronaldo. >> >> Bart > > No not today - England were shite! They didn't deserve a place in the > semi's... > > I meant - and, sorry, close your eyes here Bart - 1974, when that legendary > Cruyff/Neeskens/Rep, etc Dutch team (2nd only to Brazil's 1970 classic > line-up IMO) lost to that awful Liverpool FC...I mean...West German team. > Ref starts off playing a blinder - gives Holland a pen in the opening > minutes and then spoils it all by giving West Germany one too. British chap > too I seem to recall. Never forgave him myself ; ) HE DIT IT AGAIN! HE DIT IT AGAIN! mentioning 1974! ;-) That '74 ref should be mojo-ed upon so badly by our own voodoo-dr. Robert. But you're right, those were pretty darn good line ups. For England it must be the Bobby Charlton / George Best aera... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:02:41 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-pixies reference obscured brainy piglove naziwilsowrongspunk Hmm, my jury's still out as far as BSP are concerned. I've mentioned before here that I've seen them twice and was impressed the first time but felt they went for too much thrash-out the second time (this is not a thrash-out band). The singles haven't made much of an impression either. But I like their look and attitude. I heartily recommend signing up to their (quite frequent) witty newsletters on their website. Here's an example: "The days are reaching maximum duration, Nightjars are churring boldly on Lullington Heath and Lidl supermarkets are currently offering four large white sandwich loafs for #1 only. It is time for British Sea Power to set out on a series of open-air concerts... Support slots with the imperious Pulp have just been confirmed and, with every chance of sighting both Poplar Hawk Moth and Capercailie, the band are understandably excited". another the Keith NP : Bastard (grooving to 'Spaced In') - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-pixies reference obscured brainy piglove naziwilsowrongspunk > << Then you have bands like the Liars, McLusky, even Clinic, who are > *informed* by, but not in thrall to, the past. I'm getting more > optimistic about the music of tomorrow listening to this... >> > > Three words: > > British Sea Power. > > Best new band in Britain. Saw them last week at the ICA, performing a largely > improvised film soundtrack to one of those Koyannisquatsi-type things, with a > few songs added. Think post-punk Factory bands (they looked like a Fac band > too), US slowcore, you get the picture. Very impressive. > > Mark > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:26:04 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] How to Win Eternal Blam Marx (Renovating the Man Escape) We need to see Wire - and accept that we can never reach the Burst Mark set in Wrongbrain Wilson's Holy law. We must understand the terrible consequences of that Sixth Sense failure. Only then can Piggy Time begin to deal badly drawn crack to us under tables. The Endless Chinese Metaphor Tamers teach us that we can only receive eternal apocalypse when we rely fully and entirely on Bowie to stand in our place before Eno the Puppy Judge. The promise of the Grundy Expletive is that if we honestly confess our spunking sin, our unworthiness of Dugga, and seek the heathen forgiveness that is offered to all cunts who turn to trumpets of doom in Pink Flagwearing faith, trusting only in the death of Piggy Time - the Indestructible Sacrifice - - then we are rewarded with credit for our sh* expl*tives as though we had won the Uncool Kid Cup, scored a perfect set of mainstream porcelain, cleared the high Normal Mercury with inches of homophobic Nazi green trumpet gas to spare. *GOD HAS SHOT HIMSELF _-_-_bullet drill -_-_-_-_-_bleedin' obvious kidney Bingo! If you want to know more about the way to win eternal blam through hard drive editing, please con Siggi Sugababes or come on a Craftsman's Touch. Click Us Like We Don't Exist! http://www.kidneytaxdeductible.con ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:32:42 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] In Merry Empty Pig Shop >when it was past closing time, Robert Lynn used to play NON/Boyd Rice records at a painful volume to clear people out of the record store i worked at...worked EVERY time... I'm sure we've covered this before but... Emptied Vinyl Exchange Manchester of uncool normal pigstreamers by getting them to play the Einheit / Brotzmann 'Merry Christmas' CD... Only request for a review copy of In Esse to Mute's regional press office came from Cracked Machine. It may not surprise some that none of the Hebden Bridge promotional people could actually make it to the end of Soli. ******************************************************** The contents of the Read-mail and any Burn files are confidential and intended solely for the use of Jonathan Ross with his long foppish fringe and loud green Marmite on Goalposts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:24:06 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... In a message dated 6/21/02 4:39:05 AM, Frank.Woerner@erl.sbs.de writes: >Well, Germany will beat the US, will beat Spain > >and then -sigh- m_i_g_h_t beat Brazil. > >Remember, its not always the best team winning. > >Its the most effective team which wins. i agree. the usa team outplayed germany and lost. oh well. maybe it's the team with the stronger fan base that wins? also fell asleep with england in the lead. too bad there, too. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:35:06 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Speaking of the Pixies... In a message dated 6/21/02 5:08:17 AM, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > >Black Francis alone playing Pixies material? Interesting! he did a tour in between pixies and frank black. just black francis with an electric guitar and amp. from what i heard at the time, he was moving to the west coast and needed money for furniture and stuff. i only remember him playing pixies songs, but then again, i wouldn't have known any frank black songs yet. can't remember at all if there were any unfamiliar songs played that night, but i do remember him singing "do the manta ray" and waving his arms like a...manta ray. heh - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Westmeyer Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page I received this through the "submit your comments" section of the Wire Page. (Contact info deleted.) So whaddya think? Would "Comet" be appropriate? (snicker) A - --- john.henshaw wrote: > Date: 20 Jun 2002 13:59:33 -0000 > Subject: comment -- The Wire Page > > > Hi, > > We are currently producing a new series called Blind > Date Kiss & Tell, which is a behind the scenes look > at the popular dating show. It is due to be > transmitted in the autumn of this year on ITV2. Our > aim for the show is to appeal to young funky and > trendy target audience. As a result, I am on the > hunt for some strong up-to-the-minute music due to > be released around our broadcast shedule, for our > use as a soundtrack on the show. We are after pop > acts, as well as any funk, ambient, dancey tracks > for very thematic editing purposes. > > It would be much appreciated if could be sent out > any promotional material and relevant material for > our consideration. Please address all samples to: > > John Henshaw, > Blind Date Kiss & Tell, > > > The show is currently in production and so a swift > response would be very helpful. If you require any > further information please do not hesitate to > contact John. > > Kind regards, > > Caroline Ogun-Muyiwa > LWT Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:37:36 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches suddenly pops it's head up > > 'pietta', which was never a > > personal fave, sounds better than ever. > > keith > Was that the live B-side of Kidney Bongo's? > Bart it is the 'kidney bingos' b-side, but it's a studio recording. keith np the best dressed chicken in town - dr alimantado ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:40:13 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page In a message dated 6/21/02 5:26:57 PM Central Daylight Time, anw7pima@yahoo.com writes: > So whaddya think? Would "Comet" be appropriate? (snicker) > > A > how about "I Don't Understand" or "It's Begining to and Back Again" or even better: "Come Back in Two Halves"....as you can see i am bitter about dating! haahahahaaa RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:38:26 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches suddenly pops it's head up In a message dated 6/21/02 5:31:18 PM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > keith > > np the best dressed chicken in town - dr alimantado > YES!!!!!!!!! Keith, i love this record! Lee Perry produces some of those mad tracks! The cover photo is hilarious! glad i didn't burn this for you already as a surprise.. np - Fad Gadget Live in Koln (thanks Billy!) RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:52:19 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a good 7 inches suddenly pops it's head up keith np the best dressed chicken in town - dr alimantado >YES!!!!!!!!! Keith, i love this record! Lee Perry produces some of those mad tracks! The cover photo is hilarious! you have to have to do a bit of a double take. "is that his..", phew. no it isn't!!! keith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 00:07:51 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] tonights least popular wire track Brazil So many times there's nothing left, there's nothing left at all I know I'm right, 'cause when you're gone, there's nothing left at all not a track we'll be playing tonight eh? keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:05:49 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a real fine Grolsch Kanon [go figure] >>is this on any of the Popgroup lp's or cds? i don't remember and i am at work with no access to my record/cd collection....<< So NOW Mojo Bob turns up! Where were you this morning (2.30 US time???) Eh? Nursing another hangover after weakining your powers courtesy of Mr Jack Daniels or his good friend Mr James Beam. You failed (a) to ensure England qualify and (b) to make sure the USA put the Germans out. Very poor effort. And you can find Where There's a Will on the radar compilation CD "We are all prostitues", which came out around 1997. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:16:32 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] British Sea Power Keith, > >>Hmm, my jury's still out as far as BSP are concerned. I've mentioned > before > here that I've seen them twice and was impressed the first time but felt > they went for too much thrash-out the second time (this is not a thrash-out > band).<< Very little thrash out at all on Friday - it was quite an ambitious thing to do for a young band with 2 singles to their name. They played for 90 mins, largely improvising, and did it very well. They lend themselves to a slow build... >> The singles haven't made much of an impression either. << They're OK, but trying too hard to be poppy. The vocals are actually the weakest part. The drummer has a serious Steve Morris fixation. And they look like they just stepped out of 1979... >>But I like > their look and attitude. I heartily recommend signing up to > their (quite > frequent) witty newsletters on their website. Here's an example: > > "The days are reaching maximum duration, Nightjars are churring boldly on > Lullington Heath and Lidl supermarkets are currently offering four large > white sandwich loafs for #1 only. It is time for British Sea Power to set > out on a series of open-air concerts... Support slots with the imperious > Pulp have just been confirmed and, with every chance of sighting both > Poplar > Hawk Moth and Capercailie, the band are understandably excited".<< Certainly something going on there. the right mix of attitude and intellect that usually makes for something worth caring about.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:21:16 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... > >>maybe it's the team with the stronger fan base that wins? << > > So that's Korea for the Cup then!! > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 02:36:54 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:40:13PM -0400, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/21/02 5:26:57 PM Central Daylight Time, > anw7pima@yahoo.com writes: > > > > So whaddya think? Would "Comet" be appropriate? (snicker) > > > > A > > > > how about "I Don't Understand" or "It's Begining to and Back Again" or even > better: > > "Come Back in Two Halves"....as you can see i am bitter about dating! > haahahahaaa > "Field Day for the Sundays". Or, if you're feeling *really* misanthropic, "Reuters" :). Andrew - -- "I stare at the sky, and it leaves me blind; I close my eyes, and this is yesterday" - Manic Street Preachers, This Is Yesterday ('The Holy Bible') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:42:23 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Blighty lost ... In a message dated 6/21/02 9:21:43 PM, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: >> >>maybe it's the team with the stronger fan base that wins? << >> >> So that's Korea for the Cup then!! hey, they've got spunk! ya never know. i swear to you that espn was showing drag racing last night, and i had to watch england vs brazil on the spanish channel! goooooooooaoaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!! - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #205 *******************************