From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #193 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, June 12 2002 Volume 05 : Number 193 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Clint Ruin & Lydia Lunch [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Where to find Noises? [Tim ] [idealcopy] Re: Chicago here he comes [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] it ain't over till Brando sings [Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Where to find Noises? >Eric just wanted to get on the outside > >>>>I'd like to get away from the mainstream more. My problem is where to >look for this stuff. I see listees mentioning artists I've never heard >of. Where do you guys find out about these artists? In magazines? >Websites? Do you listen to samples first? Or just take a chance? >Discuss please. I'd also add to Graemes extensive list http://www.boomkat.com For the more electronically inclined, like myself. Its an on-line shop but they write informative and impassioned reviews of new releases every week. Alas, you can't hear any ra or mp3's of the music reviewed but I find its a good place to start for new discoveries. They write a good sales pitch! Otherwise, I sometimes listen to 'Mixing It' on Radio 3 www.bbc.co.uk/radio3 Which occasionally yeilds a gem. I'm currently listening to 'A Livingroom Hush' by Jaga Jazzist, which I first heard there. (Sounds like a more animated and melodic Tortoise, with the odd nodd to Squarepusher) I hate to say it but the dreaded 'The Wire' magazine occasionally inspires me to buy something although I've given up on it recently. Also, this list occasionally yields some useful recommendations. Graeme, when he isn't busy answering his critics, can often be relied on to recommend something to challenge the inner-ear of most idealcopyists. ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:43:32 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Chicago here he comes Catching up on old digests I find: >From: Miles Goosens >Subject: [idealcopy] Chicago here I come A Chicago weekend is always a good thing for us -- the Art >Institute, the Field Museum, Marshall Field, record shopping north of >Wrigley Field, the Berghoff -- so it'll be a fun getaway. As a Chicagoan I feel obligated to say: Marshall Field is in your top 5? ;) BTW, tickets still not on sale, and may not be for a while ... I'll keep a lookout ... BTW 2, Sonic Youth are playing the Metro twice in August. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:51:12 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Les McQueen-like >> but instead the work of none other than experimental musician, >> neo glam pop star, guru devotee, and curator of arguably rocks wackiest >> andb most original compilation album, Miniatures [Blueprint BP159CD], >> Morgan Fisher. > > ...former member of Mott The Hoople...hence the 'neo-glam pop star' > thing...!!!!! > > ian.s.j. His biography is quite stunning. Played with almost everybody... Seems lives in Japan now. "He playes music for soundtracks now" [Creme Brulee - Royston Vasey-style] http://www.morgan-fisher.com/biography.html Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:20:57 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] it ain't over till Brando sings another the Keith: > I went to see Apocalypse Now Redux a couple of weeks ago. Can't say the > additions did much for me but seeing it again in a cinema really brought > home why I've regarded it as a great film since the day I first saw it > (which I can even recall - 31/12/79!). It's more ambitious than any film > made subsequently and probably more ambitious than any other film made in > the second half of the twentieth century with the exception of '2001'. Have you seen Werner Herzog's Fitzcaraldo? [also a startling "making of"] > It's > so ambitious it's almost obscene - the scene when the patrol boat first meet > up with Kilgore's troops, for example, is just breathtakingly choreographed, > choppers coming in from all directions as the boat pulls up to the beach, > explosions going off, Coppola himself directing the action on camera. Now > they'd digitalise much of it but there's a real thrill in knowing that this > was all arranged for our amusement, even as one gasps inwardly at the sheer > expense (especially when one knows the background to the making of it). In that way perhaps only surpassed by D.W. Griffith's "Intolerance" > The > Valkure scene really got me going as well despite knowing it really well - > it's completely visceral cinema. And the narration - surely the most witty > and quotable in cinema. There are many things wrong with the film but while > watching it I'll forgive them all (until the last 20 minutes at least). > It's Coppola's masterpiece despite the Conversation (which *is* magnificent > but a chamber piece compared to this). Hear hear! Bart NP The Pipettes, All the young Dudes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:53:14 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Chaosmoasis / Lobotomy and You >> bathroom? fuckers? buttons & dodgy characters? >> you were in the loo now right? > > > "The central problem for Deleuze and Guattari, their single most significant > niggle, the danger to which much of their work points, and the fact of > existence against which they most consistently work is a phenomenon I call > totalizing theory. A totalizing theory is one, like psychoanalysis, that > becomes monolithic. At a certain point a theory, fueled by social pressure, > can become totalizing, to the extent that its effects are ubiquitous and > destructive. In such instances, the totalizing theory will see the entire > world through its own lens, and will then, in turn, construct the world > according to that lens. Speaking of Freudian psychoanalysis in Chaosmosis > Guattari points out that "the unconscious has become an institution. ... One > finds oneself rigged out with an unconscious the moment one dreams, delires, > forgets or makes a slip of the tongue" (10). Guattari calls Freudian theories > "inventions" in the sense that they were created and not discovered. However, > since its invention psychoanalysis has gained institutional status such that > now the world is constructed according to the model of psychoanalysis. It has > become a totalizing theory that constructs hysterics, neurotics, and > psychotics. It is the example, par excellence, of the dangers of totalizing > theory." > > http://www.uta.edu/english/apt/d&g/atotalizing_theory.html Quoted pretty nicely... but back to our toilet stories..... ]:o) Bart ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #193 *******************************