From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #167 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, May 27 2002 Volume 05 : Number 167 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Fwd: [Shriek_Digicon] Not A Virus/OT [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] guess who? [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] guess who? ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] guess who? [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Wire to Play Minneapolis ["Steve Loubert" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Shriek_Digicon] Not A Virus/OT There's another 'VIRUS HOAX" doing the rounds,f.y.i,see below.Ari - --- shriekburk wrote: > To: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com > From: "shriekburk" > Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:39:34 -0000 > Subject: [Shriek_Digicon] Not A Virus > Reply-to: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com > > Just went to Microsoft Home Page- Copied now for > your convenience is > the official word:(Microsoft.com also has info on > getting the file > back, for you panicky dumpers) > > Virus Hoax: Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java > (Jdbgmgr.exe) Is > Not a Virus (Q322993) > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > The information in this article applies to: > > > Microsoft Windows 95 > Microsoft Windows 98 > Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition > Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition > Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 4.0 > Microsoft Windows NT Server version 4.0 > Microsoft Windows NT Server, Enterprise Edition > version 4.0 > Microsoft Windows 2000 , Professional > Microsoft Windows 2000 , Server > Microsoft Windows 2000 , Advanced Server > Microsoft Windows 2000 , Datacenter Server > Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition > Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition > Microsoft Windows XP Professional > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > SUMMARY > There is a virus hoax that advises customers to > delete a valid > Windows file that is named Jdbgmgr.exe. This file is > the Microsoft > Debugger Registrar for Java. If you receive the > e-mail message that > is listed in the "More Information" section of this > article, delete > the e-mail message and do not forward it to others. > Although this > file may become infected with a virus, its presence > is not an > indication of a virus infection. > > > > MORE INFORMATION > > Contents of the Hoax Message > The Jdbgmgr.exe virus hoax arrives in an e-mail > message with the > following body text: > I found the little bear in my machine because of > that I am sending > this message in order for you to find it in your > machine. The > procedure is very simple: > > The objective of this e-mail is to warn all Hotmail > users about a new > virus that is spreading by MSN Messenger. The name > of this virus is > jdbgmgr.exe and it is sent automatically by the > Messenger and by the > address book too. The virus is not detected by > McAfee or Norton and > it stays quiet for 14 days before damaging the > system. > > The virus can be cleaned before it deletes the files > from your > system. In order to eliminate it, it is just > necessary to do the > following steps: > 1. Go to Start, click "Search" > 2.- In the "Files or Folders option" write the name > jdbgmgr.exe > 3.- Be sure that you are searching in the drive "C" > 4.- Click "find now" > 5.- If the virus is there (it has a little bear-like > icon with the > name of jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT FOR ANY REASON > 6.- Right click and delete it (it will go to the > Recycle bin) > 7.- Go to the recycle bin and delete it or empty the > recycle bin. > > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS IN ALL OF YOUR SYSTEMS SEND > THIS MESSAGE TO ALL > OF YOUR CONTACTS LOCATED IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK BEFORE > IT CAN CAUSE ANY > DAMAGE. > > > ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:21:57 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? << damon even started playing a melodica himself!<< Almost exclusively when he was getting down with his African, erm, brothers. >> incidentally, talking of melodica's, did anyone ever identify what that mystery 80's track was in the end? i sent to a couple of likely candidates myself, but to no avail. >> Nope! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 14:07:22 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? In a message dated 26/05/02 02:08:45 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > > That has to be a Damon Albarn list. So it must be Blur, though Coxin > obviously didn't contribute as Mission of Burma would have been top of the > list.... > //////////////speaking of which has anyone heard / heard of the mowers , allegedly they are signed to graham coxon's label. i just met a guy who is the singers dad , he tells me they sound like the kinks (ho ho , thought blur were past that one). and did anyone buy the "damon goes to mali" lp? p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:28:37 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? > << damon even started playing a melodica himself!<< > > Almost exclusively when he was getting down with his African, erm, brothers. do i detect a hint of cynicism??? actually, i didn't mind him on 'later' - well it suddenly descended into what can only be described as an african version of a funky freeform jam. that was horrible! keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 19:50:25 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? << do i detect a hint of cynicism???<< You should know by now that I'm never cynical. Not ever. No siree bob. >>actually, i didn't mind him on 'later' - well it suddenly descended into what can only be described as an african version of a funky freeform jam. that was horrible! >> I don't have a problem with him. The new BBC4 channel had a documentary about his exploits, which was either a very brave or a very pretentious thing to do. They showed some of the concert at the Barbican, in which Damon was peripheral to say the least - he played rhythm guitar most of the time. But he's a genuine enthusiast, and his efforts have given various Mali musicians an unexpected payday. There are far worse indulgences for rich rock stars... Also that list of Blur's influences was pretty impressive. How many new bands today could point to anything like that? Few seem to go beyond a very basic selection (Stooges/Ramones/Velvets) that looked limited even 20 years ago. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 01:22:23 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? > Mark said... > Also that list of Blur's influences was pretty impressive. How many new bands > today could point to anything like that? Few seem to go beyond a very basic > selection (Stooges/Ramones/Velvets) that looked limited even 20 years ago. very impressive list as far as i'm concerned. in fact, with bolan, cope, nick drake and wire all present and correct, iggy/the stooges were the only act out of what is probably my personal top 5 missing from that list. shouldn't xtc have been there though? there seemed to be a bit of an influence there circa 'modern life is rubbish' (still my fave blur album) IMO - and as for 'charmless man'. well it could easily have been xtc. i haven't got a problem with albarn either btw. i even love 'clint eastwood'. unfortunately my enjoyment of the one time i saw blur (at their relatively low key liverpool royal court gig at the time of 'beetlebum') was hampered by the fact that just before i left the house i discovered that billy mackenzie, another fave of mine, had died. blur were really good, but at times my mind was sadly elsewhere. keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:50:08 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? << shouldn't xtc have been there though? there seemed to be a bit of an influence there circa 'modern life is rubbish' (still my fave blur album) IMO - and as for 'charmless man'. well it could easily have been xtc.<< Oh absolutely.... XTC's influence on Britpop was greatly understated. Unfortunately Elastic didn't perfomr a note-for-note rip-off of one of their songs.... >> i haven't got a problem with albarn either btw. i even love 'clint eastwood'.<< Though the heavy rotation of the video did start to grate after a while... >>unfortunately my enjoyment of the one time i saw blur (at their relatively low key liverpool royal court gig at the time of 'beetlebum') << Likewise only seen them once, around the same time I suppose - Brighton, December 97. Excellent too.... >>was hampered by the fact that just before i left the house i discovered that billy mackenzie, another fave of mine, had died. blur were really good, but at times my mind was sadly elsewhere.<< The Associates were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. You can get some idea of what they were like from the 1st Peel session. Absolutely nothing like their albums - muchg harder, faster, louder. I actually interviewed Billy Mac at the gig I saw (Derby, 1980) but I fear the tape has been lost. Good bloke, very interesting stuff from what I can remember! Have you read the book about him (The Glamour Chase)? A sad tale... Also recommended is Michael Dempsey's (ex Cure/Associates etc) web site which has off-beat downloads of old reherasals etc. http://www.mdmmedia.com Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:13 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire to Play Minneapolis First Avenue's website shows a Wire show scheduled for September 13th! Any other US tour stop sightings? http://www.first-avenue.com/Calendar.htm/beyond.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:01:23 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 08:50:08PM -0400, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > << shouldn't xtc have been there though? there seemed to be a bit of an > influence there circa 'modern life is rubbish' (still my fave blur album) > IMO - and as for 'charmless man'. well it could easily have been xtc.<< > > Oh absolutely.... XTC's influence on Britpop was greatly understated. > Unfortunately Elastic didn't perfomr a note-for-note rip-off of one of their > songs.... > Considering keyboards on Elastica's first album were played by one Dan Abnormal, and it was rumoured he had at least half a hand in the songwriting... but I like Blur, a lot. Graham Coxon is one of my favourite guitarists, and certainly one of the ones whose riffs I try to rip off most. He seems to be incapable of playing the straight-forward guitar line - and it's interesting how many *other* guitarists list him as their favourite of their peers in interviews... Andrew - -- "And you see, I kind of shivered to conformity, Did you see the way I cowered to authority?" - Mansun, "Six" ('Six') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:02:37 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] guess who? on 27/05/02 01:50, MarkBursa@aol.com at MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > I don't have a problem with him. The new BBC4 channel had a documentary about > his exploits, which was either a very brave or a very pretentious thing to > do. They showed some of the concert at the Barbican, in which Damon was > peripheral to say the least - he played rhythm guitar most of the time. But > he's a genuine enthusiast, and his efforts have given various Mali musicians > an unexpected payday. There are far worse indulgences for rich rock stars... > > Also that list of Blur's influences was pretty impressive. How many new bands > today could point to anything like that? Few seem to go beyond a very basic > selection (Stooges/Ramones/Velvets) that looked limited even 20 years ago. That's exactly the problem I have with Blur - lots of good will combined with the 'right' influences (which are indeed impressive) is not enough. Some talent could be useful as well. giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #167 *******************************