From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #135 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, May 2 2002 Volume 05 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] More images from Bristol [Mark McQuitty ] [idealcopy] Roberts drum kit [Mark McQuitty ] [idealcopy] keep your eyes skinned &ears pinned to the ground ["David Hea] Re: [idealcopy] Wire radio session this week kids! ["DAN L ROSE" ] [idealcopy] short notice- listen now ["Andrew Lumbard" ] [idealcopy] Re: Are You Are Missing Reporter? [Michael Flaherty ] [idealcopy] ...arriving late to class... [Santa Cruzer ] Re: [idealcopy] bbc radio 6/martin hannett [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] 154 pronunciation ["Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] More images from Bristol I've uploaded more stuff from the Bristol gig to my Wire pages at http://www.tingy.co.uk/dotdash Enjoy. MarkM. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:05:57 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] more pics from Bristol >>I've uploaded more stuff from the Bristol gig to my Wire pages >>Enjoy. >>MarkM. I did, thanks... A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:18:05 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More images from Bristol on 01/05/02 11:49, Mark McQuitty at Mark.McQuitty@dickinsoncontrol.co.uk wrote: > I've uploaded more stuff from the Bristol gig to my Wire pages at > http://www.tingy.co.uk/dotdash > > Enjoy. > > MarkM. > > Is that a sampler on Robert's kit? Can anyone tell how he used it? I never noticed how low his cymbals were (don't know why - I love drummers who do that) giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:21:59 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] Roberts drum kit I didn't notice Robert using a sampler but I have always loved his set-up. Reminds me of a jazz kit. It's anti-rock but still rocks. MarkM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:57:09 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More images from Bristol > > I've uploaded more stuff from the Bristol gig to my Wire pages at > > http://www.tingy.co.uk/dotdash > > MarkM. anyone out there enlighten us on the newspaper cutting on stage with 'THE ALARM' written on it (which presumably has the set list on the other side). They're not advertising the MightyWah/S.O.D. tour are they? keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:26:31 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] wire top 10 please note the polling booths have now closed! keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:35:16 +0100 From: "David Heale" Subject: [idealcopy] keep your eyes skinned &ears pinned to the ground "Emearg"... is amongst you.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:36:20 -0400 From: "DAN L ROSE" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire radio session this week kids! I can't make heads or tails of this website. When exactly should I listen to BBC 6? When are Wire gonna be on "this week"? Why do I feel this is a plot to deny witless Americans a Wire fix? Confused and crying. Dan Graeme from the Sticks, << Between the two weekends the plan was for Wire to record a BBC digital radio session. I think its for some digital channel or other, BBC 6 was what my wheat beer sodden memory is saying. >> Well remembered. This from the BBC Radio 6 web site. Good to see nice accurate reporting from the BBC, as usual ;-) Mark >>COMING UP Wire On The Wireless This week! Colin Newman, Bruce gilbert, Graham Lewis and Robert "Gotobed" Grey have been Wired up since the band formed in 1976 but it's fair to say they've spent most of the intervening period pursuing solo projects. In a four-year long initial creative burst they produced four three albums - Pink Flag in 1977, Missing in 1978 and 154 in 1979 before reforming to produced The Drill in 1991, an album, incidentally, which featured the song Drill 10 times! After reforming for an initial concert at the Royal Albert Hall they embarked on a tour of the US and were encouraged to record again - producing the album Read And Burn. Wire - well worth the wait. Check 'em out when they appear on 6 Music. http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:31:19 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire radio session this week kids! > I can't make heads or tails of this website. When exactly should I > listen to BBC 6? When are Wire gonna be on "this week"? Why do I feel > this is a plot to deny witless Americans a Wire fix? > Confused and crying. Dan I've e-mailed them asking for details of when it will be broadcast. if/when they reply i will of course let you know. keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:40:52 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] wire on the wireless just done some digging. looks like it's later tonite... keith Wednesday 1 May Yet more exclusive session tracks from The Vessels and Wire. The Bob = Dylan Story continues at 9pm. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of tiny.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:45:59 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire on the wireless sorry - didn't inc. start time. 1900hrs... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: [idealcopy] wire on the wireless > just done some digging. looks like it's later tonite... > > keith > > > > > Wednesday 1 May > > Yet more exclusive session tracks from The Vessels and Wire. The Bob = > Dylan Story continues at 9pm. > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of tiny.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 17:51:47 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More images from Bristol Nice ones Mark! Cheers... Bart bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com > I've uploaded more stuff from the Bristol gig to my Wire pages at > http://www.tingy.co.uk/dotdash > > Enjoy. > > MarkM. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:14:06 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire on the wireless Keith wrote: > Yet more exclusive session tracks from The Vessels and Wire. A Australian friend ones gave me an album [forgot the title] by an Australian band called the Vessels, but that was in '78 or '79... Not the same band is it? Anyone know them? Bart bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 17:34:49 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] More images from Bristol Keith asked:- >> anyone out there enlighten us on the newspaper cutting on stage with 'THE >> ALARM' written on it (which presumably has the set list on the >> other side). >> They're not advertising the MightyWah/S.O.D. tour are they? AndyL answered:- Yes the venue was advertising sa(i)d upcoming tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:38:21 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] not-the-vessels Did a little googling... seemed the band isn't called the Vessels at all! It was the name of the album! It's a Sydney-based postpunkband called The Makers Of The Dead Travel Fast. I have this album for over 20 years and never knew this! But then again, nobody had ever heard of them in my circles. http://www.innercitysound.com.au/MakersOfDead.html Should get myself a turntable again... Bart bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com >> Yet more exclusive session tracks from The Vessels and Wire. > > > A Australian friend ones gave me an album [forgot the title] by an > Australian band called the Vessels, but that was in '78 or '79... Not the > same band is it? Anyone know them? > > Bart > bartvandamme@home.nl > http://www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:01:43 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: [idealcopy] short notice- listen now from 19-00 GMT http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/listen.shtml AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:38:54 +0100 From: "David Heale" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] keep your eyes skinned &ears pinned to the ground Come on Keith what's EMEARG - backwards..........just me having a bit ofsilly fun with this set of e-mails trying to sort the graeme's from the b.hicks!!!!! cheers david...... it get lonely down here at the end of the country.. we have to do something...of a cold chilly night. yours DAVID - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Astbury" To: "David Heale" Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] keep your eyes skinned &ears pinned to the ground > come again David??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Heale > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:35 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] keep your eyes skinned &ears pinned to the ground > > > > "Emearg"... is amongst you.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:09:40 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Torching the Old Tortures Giluz struggled for days >>>After days of struggling and trying to write some words on R&B01, I gave up and would just sum it up as certainly one of the best Wire releases ever. I think 02 will be better, judging by the 3 new songs. They should call the Drill remix 'Drilled to Death' and use that as well. I'm fairly sure Graham said that '10 Years After' will be on RnB02. Over the last few days as i've been blasting live 'Spit!' I've been thinking that a Redone Burnt version of 'Witness to the Fact' would be a nice thing to hear. Now if Peel could just be persuaded to broadcast a bit more of Wire's set... The opening section of Fuck Off's Drill actually sounded very similar to Mr Gilbert's 'MUZI' (that's the last track on In Esse, keep up at the back). >>>Any questions as to how it relates to the current musical environment seems to constantly slip my comprehension - Perhaps a good way to hear it amongst many is as part of a lineage that goes Wire-Big Black-Melt Banana-Wire with Ground Zero and Boredoms in elliptical orbit around it? Some of the studio tricks they've used have been tried by certain Japanese bands I could mention... There's definitely been a little Silo influence on this Wire version. >>>maybe it's too close to me, being a Wire fan for such a long time, maybe I'm just too happy to have an excuse to listen to contemporary punk-rock, Who needs excuses? Saw a great German HC art punk band a few weeks back called Metrophon (www.metrophon.com). Heavily Sonic Youth influenced and very good in the same way that Trail of Dead aren't. The Elders of Zion (www.incidentalmusic.com) also fit the bill of contemporary punk considering their lynchpin writes Punk Planet zine. Then there's the almost unbelievable Melt Banana whose new album due later in the year is the one that is most likely to blow Wire out of the water... >>>or maybe I'm just a wanker looking for meaning where it's not supposed to be instead of just sitting back and enjoying the show - I tend to think not (except for the wanker bit), if only because Wire, even at their weakest moments, always kept their art-rock sensibility of multi-layered meanings and signs. I Don't Understand is at first sight a song with obvious meaning but could apply to many situations. Comet employs typical perverse Wire strategy of perky pop with nasty subject. Of course the one that gets the celebrating feet moving is the one about the heaven sent extinction of the human race. 1st Fast & Art seem likely to refer to the process of Wire creation, but have multiple philosophical applications. "It's all in the art of Stopping," restates aphoristically an idea that formed part of the first missive from Snakedrill. Colin sang "It's only when you stop that I feel it." Both songs also feature some of the most ridiculous singing he's done, but the comparatively convoluted Snakes have more mystery and colour. The Pink Flag cut & pastes are obvious on RnB01 but there seems to be more Snakedrill in it than any other Wire record. I wonder how deliberate that was? I think most of the RnB01 lyrics might be Newman / Gilbert collaborations? Agfers is obviously a Graham Lewis text and has the most imagery and a very cinematic edge. Makes me think of reportage of WTC plane crashes when I hear it. The line about the slayer of giants in the finest of stockings makes me think of faked Nostradamus quatrains. I didn't want to ask Graham what it was all about yet as it's more fun to let the words hang up archly for a while. Still can't work out most of the words to my favourite track Germ Ship. RnB01 is still sounding Better & Redder with more listening except Comet which is just too silly and retro and has got a bit irritating after so many listens. As for wanking, remember it's all in the art! >>>Looking back, I think most of them weren't that obvious when they were released so maybe I'm not that dumb. Certainly not. A second language? >>>A very amusing reaction to R&B01, was made by a 16 year old hardcore-punk enthusiast, who flipped through the first three tracks for two minutes and disapprovingly pronounced it as 'pink floyd style rock' (as if you could say a sentence like this approvingly) - sometimes I really do feel too old. All the young 'uns who I know who saw Wire at ATP were mightily impressed. In the program Steve Albini says that if it was not for Wire, their festival would have had a lot of empty stages. I'm sure more people in bands were watching Wire than godspeed. Being the fastest isn't everything of course. Low were actually covering Pink Floyd though... >>>Other stuff I've been recently listening to: So don't you get Q in Israel? >>>The new Faust remix CD - Just bought it a few days ago and can't say much about it. My first reaction is a bit of a disappointment after their excellent remix EP from a few months back, this release sounds a bit too mellow and electronic - as Colin's excellent Silo remix proved that remixes don't have to sound electronic, I think Ravivando deserves some 'rock' remixes as well. This is just a first impression, and in a few months time I might change my mind completely and pronounce it as my favourite 2002 release (after R&B01 of course). I think the Faust remixes are superb. Reviewed it on the Brain a while back and got sent a very nice thank you email by Hans Joachim Irmler. It's not worth reading it though because the guy who runs the site doesn't have a big chip on his shoulder about Twisted Nerve. Freispiel is much better than that patchy Can remix thing. The Residents, Gel, Surgeon, Dax & Pieper & Dead Voices On Air ones are fantastic! It flows really well. Wire and Faust have a lot in common. Bruce enjoyed Faust at the RFH. Not sure what Colin thought of them. It's just a shame they didn't ask Bruce to do a remix as his hilarious multiplied TV Spot is the best thing on Sacrilege. Does Howie B's ambient Faust remix remind you of Low Impact Immersion? Surely the Residents remix rocks? >>>The Hives - this Swedish punk-rock band is quite fun and very happy and energetic. I'd never buy their records but they're OK to hear in the pub. Sound like a watered down version of the Monomen to me, who in turn were never as cool as the Scientists. Hives compiled the free CD with last weeks Kerrang magazine (mostly badly written corporate cock rock hype but my wife has a subscription). Its actually quite an enjoyable listen with golden oldies from the Saints, Radio Birdman & Dead Kennedys but the newer bands ploughing similar garage rock furrows just seem to diminish their returns. >>>Secret Chiefs 3 - the latest from this Mr. Bungle sans Mike Patton line-up is excellent, as usual. Lots of Arabic sounds and tunes alongside a few rock things and some strange funky tracks. Must get round to hearing this sometime, the CD-R of theirs you sent me was great! I've been listening to some great new CDs too. However yesterday my ten tops seemed to fire away: In Esse The Haring IBM (obviously all 3-4 at the same time) The First Last Number Unknown Pleasures Snakedrill Opening Sweep Oscillating Low Impact All the others except 2 And least we forget the base, ORGANIC FARMING Enough of favourite Factories, Where are the best Organic Farms? Why don't you eat carrots? Could it Be? Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Van Bergen / Prins / Fennesz - Dawn (Grob) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:30:41 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Are You Are Missing Reporter? >From: "Bill Hick" >Subject: [idealcopy] Are You Are Missing Reporter? >Colin has revealed that each instalment of RnB will have a different concept. >It seems there will be at least four EPs, maybe five. This is as I had hoped--not only forv more eps, but the different concepts. Thanks, "Bill". ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:15:28 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Are You Are Missing Reporter? > A great new song > entitled "Ten Years After" with the shouted chorus, "Spit!" is probably going > to be on the next one. "It's the simplest chorus we could sing," explained > Graham, "And we'd never have got away with it in 78!" this is the track that peel played along with 'lowdown' from ATP. didn't think it was vintage wire myself to be honest, but i'll stick with it. keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire radio session this week kids! will anyone,did anyone record this for those of us not in the U.K?Ari - --- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Graeme from the Sticks, > > << Between the two weekends the plan was for Wire to > record a BBC digital > radio > session. I think its for some digital channel or > other, BBC 6 was what my > wheat beer sodden memory is saying. >> > > Well remembered. > > This from the BBC Radio 6 web site. Good to see nice > accurate reporting from > the BBC, as usual ;-) > > Mark > > >>COMING UP > > Wire On The Wireless > This week! > > Colin Newman, Bruce gilbert, Graham Lewis and Robert > "Gotobed" Grey have been > Wired up since the band formed in 1976 but it's fair > to say they've spent > most of the intervening period pursuing solo > projects. > > In a four-year long initial creative burst they > produced four three albums - > Pink Flag in 1977, Missing in 1978 and 154 in 1979 > before reforming to > produced The Drill in 1991, an album, incidentally, > which featured the song > Drill 10 times! > > After reforming for an initial concert at the Royal > Albert Hall they embarked > on a tour of the US and were encouraged to record > again - producing the album > Read And Burn. > > Wire - well worth the wait. Check 'em out when they > appear on 6 Music. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/ ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 00:49:38 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] bbc radio 6/martin hannett can't offer that much thought on the bbc radio 6 thing tonight, except to say the one track i heard was agfers. switched off after - i was having trouble with the reception and after a minute into the song it kept cutting out. what i did hear of it sounded fine - it seemed to gell more than the R&B version. i was gonna say it had a smoother feel to it, but that might bring sade to mind ; ) what i mean is that the vocal performance was more consistent rather than the two very different approaches on record. from what tom robinson (yeah that tom robinson) said when he mentioned some other tracks, i think they may have played tracks earlier in the week (12XU, germ ships, lowdown are the ones he mentioned). not sure if that means there's more to come later this wk) incidentally, with this being on the net, does this mean that the non-uk listers can tune in? been catching up last couple of days on some of the links etc that listers have been forwarding. the martin hannet one was esp. informative - he produced so much stuff that you wonder when he slept. certainly had no idea he produced an only ones track. for the joy division fans amongst you, there's a lengthy 'unknown pleasures' review c/o jon savage (melody maker) that might be of interest. well worth a look... keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:34:02 +0200 From: "Giacomo" Subject: [idealcopy] 154 pronunciation Which is the right album's pronunciation: one-hundred-and-fifty-four or one-five-four? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: [idealcopy] ...arriving late to class... Well, thanks to mis-typing my credit card number, I received R&B a couple of days ago! So without further ado... Art of Stopping - Sounds like the spiritual descendent of Pink Flag (song, not album!) ! I really like the stops and restarts in the song. I Don't Understand - What a thumper! Should be required listening to anyone starting a punk band! Or thinks they are in one!! Comet - The lyrics cracked me up! Another high velocity ride! Germ Shop - Keeps making me think of 40 Versions...until the vocals kick in! This is a song to play LOUD!!! 1st Fast - The only song that doesn't do much for me Agfers of Kodack - GREAT song! Until I heard it I thought the concept of vocally confusing Colin and Graham was ridiculous! Overall I give it a B/B+. Being an '80's Wire fan, I found it interesting to note that R&B invoked alot of 70's Wire in me as far as the songs length and structure. The one major drawback for me was that it didn't go on long enough! I wished it was 2-3 times longer! If the low frequency/dark feelings are from the baritone guitars...Bring 'em on!!! As as side note, I bought Swim Team 2 with R&B and it's great!! I am looking forward to Wire's future releases to get the odd Swim album here and there. ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://3rproductions.com Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:22:17 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] bbc radio 6/martin hannett >incidentally, with this being on the net, does this mean that the non-uk >listers can tune in? Yup - I think so. I was listening to Radio 6 via the Internet from my desktop computer here in Seattle all morning. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 02:58:50 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Are You Are Missing Reporter? Graeme wrote: >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:03:41 +0100 >From: "Bill Hick" >Subject: [idealcopy] Are You Are Missing Reporter? > >Sunday 21.4: caught the last half hour or so of Colin's DJ set, during which >he played an Immersion style remix of "The Art of Persistence" which sounded >unrecognisable to me until the singing gave it away. He said he'd also played >slightly different mixes of some RnB01 tracks, but I was watching Zeni Geva >and Flour at the time. F**kin hell, Anyone who is in any doubt whether 'Bill Hick' is Graeme should be convinced by now. >The Breeders were sloppy as hell but good drunken fun for the end of the first >night. The floor really shook to "Cannonball," then all their part time fans >filed out, perhaps keen to talk over a bit of Low's set downstairs. Most of >the Breeders' set was a 'Last Splash' crowd pleaser. Low must be the number one 'Please don't talk over this' band of all time. When Low play, you need to get into the 'moshpit' area. Not to mosh, but to be able to hear the f**king set...but I must say the last couple of Low gigs i've seen the audience have been very attentive, but calling out lots of requests for songs etc between songs much to the amusement of Mr & Mrs Sparhawk. Great band. >Despite the program's assurance that everyone was expected to stay up all >night getting drunk with Mark E Smith I did this with a certain inspiring >character by the name of Graham Lewis. Ah thats ATP for you. Hang out with the band of your choosing. Here's hoping Mr Lewis was allowed to get a word in edgeways eh Graeme?!! >My copy of the complimentary triple CD compilation has Melt Banana's >hyper-stormin' cover of 'Neat Neat Neat' on it instead of the listed track, >which was a wonderful surprise as I hadn't heard it before. The Wire track is >"In the Art of Stopping" same version as RnB01. good to know that track will be in the hands of few potential new fans. Have a listen folks and tell me its not a fairly reasonable montage of 78/86/91/2002 era wire? ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:25:58 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: [idealcopy] More Wire Radio 6 Thursday From http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/tom_robinson/ Thursday 2 May New releases from Belle & Sebastian and Muse are discussed and dissected by the Thursday Review panel. The Evening Sequence chatroom opens once again between 8-9pm. And Tom plays the final tracks from session guests The Vessels and Wire. To listen: http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/listen.shtml Again at 1900 GMT, which I think is 1PM here in the Central US. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:53:51 -0500 (CDT) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] one-fifty-four (12.41 squared!?!) I always heard DJ's pronounce 154 as one fifty four, so I assume it is so. However, I just grabbed Kevin Eden's book, Everybody loves a history, and a 'very quick' look mentions 154 in number form, not spelled out. Was it Wire played 154 times to the point of this album? Another 'open to interpretations' concept? For anyone interested in the Diodes (Power Pop), eBay seller "beatnik_guy" is offering an all inclusive copy. It popped up in one of my searches & thought an Idealcopyist might be interested. Not sure if this is rare, but surely uncommon. Auction ends May 2 about 09:13 PDT / no bids as of this text!! Eyes Peeled, voyteck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:40:57 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 154 pronunciation It's always been one five four to me. One fifty four, maybe. Never one hundred and fifty four. One five four always seemed more punk somehow. And "more punk" seemed important somehow. Fifteen four? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Giacomo To: Ideal Copy Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: [idealcopy] 154 pronunciation > Which is the right album's pronunciation: one-hundred-and-fifty-four or > one-five-four? > > Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:04 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 154 pronunciation > It's always been one five four to me. One fifty four, maybe. Never one > hundred and fifty four. i've yet to hear it called anything other than one five four in the uk. > One five four always seemed more punk somehow. And "more punk" seemed > important somehow. > > Fifteen four? there's a thought! (sounds a bit like a rugby score though...) keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 04:15:32 -0400 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] short notice- listen now why do we only ever find out about these radio things an hour before they're broadcast , i seem to miss every one? i presume you can get R6 thru a sky digibox in which case i'll give tonights show a listen. wonder what tom robinson thought of wire? p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #135 *******************************