From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #127 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, April 24 2002 Volume 05 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] cabbies [Alistair Tear ] [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay ["Eric Klaver" ] Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Driving w/ PF4 ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza [Santa Cruzer ] [idealcopy] Re: now playing... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:39:51 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today > Elbow and Doves certainly seem to be heralding a return of big, > emotional music right now; I like both bands, but it remains to be seen > if any of the next wave (Haven, this means you) can turn out to be any > cop. "The Last Broadcast" (Doves) should be good, if the first single > off it is anything to go by. I love the first Doves LP, reminds me of Joy Division even though musically I suppose it's nothing really like them. > Of course, both Elbow and Doves have > described themselves as prog: have they? oh dear... > the NME are hyping up anything they can > find as the new punk, which means something hopefully will come out of > left field and blindside us (and them) all :) > Andrew i read someone recently saying that their theory is when you get a big rock scene (i.e. nu-metal at the moment), then you get an alternative scene which involves a lot of make-up! now i'm not saying i'm advocating a new romo scene by any means, but it'd be nice if you get a movement of the calibre of bolan/bowie/roxy (or siouxsie/robert smith for that matter) coming along. incidentally, i listened to nme com radio for the first time yesterday. whilst on the whole, it was ok (personally i like brmc and 'bootylicious'), it was very mainstream overall. still at least i got to hear system of the down who i'd managed to avoid till yesterday. you can imagine how thrilled i was. as imaginative as putting your milk bottles out - and as difficult to do i would imagine. and talking of avoiding things - do you know I've still managed to avoid seeing a single 'rocky' movie. i accidentally caught a bit of one last week, which only made me more determined to proudly keep up my stallone no-go policy. keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:48:36 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back thanks michael. you've made an old man very happy. (time to dig out my sandy shaw compilation and put that branch back in my pocket i think...) keith (a jumped up pantry boy) > www.morrissey-solo.com: > > "Good news for every single Moz fan out there today! I > just learned that Morrissey has just been signed to > Sanctuary records (who are also releasing the new Pet > Shop Boys album). It's been too long since he's had a > record deal and now it's final. The new single will be > released on October 8th and the new album follows > shortly!" > > we'll see what's up.... > > ~michael > np read & burn! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:18:35 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back just checked the moz web site and the 'news' has now been amended to 'rumours' as they can't confirm. branch carefully placed back on tree. incidentally there's a poll for people to vote for best closing track on a Moz album. for some reason i assumed 'meat is murder' would walk it, but it only got something 8%. the winner so far is my fave - 'speedway'. fab track. keith n.p. electralane - i want to be the president e.p. > you've made an old man very happy. > (time to dig out my sandy shaw compilation and put that branch back in my > pocket i think...) > keith (a jumped up pantry boy) > > > > www.morrissey-solo.com: > > > > "Good news for every single Moz fan out there today! I > > just learned that Morrissey has just been signed to > > Sanctuary records (who are also releasing the new Pet > > Shop Boys album). It's been too long since he's had a > > record deal and now it's final. The new single will be > > released on October 8th and the new album follows > > shortly!" > > > > we'll see what's up.... > > > > ~michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:04:50 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today If it's the song that begins 'I want to walk through Sodom with a boy on my arm' (or similar) then it's 'I Bloodbrother Be'. Think it was on El records. Cheers John (Still smarting from not being to able to do Friday due to car disintegrating.) >From: "Keith Astbury" >To: , >Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:32:34 +0100 > ><< read recently that david thomas is appearing in a play in the uk (london >i > > think) in an acting capacity. 'shockheaded peters' i think it was. >> > > > > As opposed to the post-Lemon Kittens Karl Blake combo of the same >name.... > > Mark > >yeah. actually i can't remember if the play is a singular peter or plural >ones. >what was that pretty popular single SHP had in about 1984 (might have been >their first)... >keith _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:39:43 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today I Bloodbrother Be << what was that pretty popular single SHP had in about 1984 (might have been their first)... >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:41:02 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today Erm, yes. Apart from one of Wylie's more ridiculous song titles ending in (Part 154) I can't think of anything at all.... Mark << changing the subject again mark, i had you down as favourite to name the wire/wylie connection... do you need a clue? >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:42:22 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies Bart, yes, all the RT singles are collated on the Living Legends CD. A must-have (despite the crap title)... Mark << My memory is more than distant on this subject, but Keith was right - it was a Rough Trade 7"! Haven't played nor seen it in a long time. Is it availlable on cd? >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:03:28 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today << I love the first Doves LP, reminds me of Joy Division even though musically I suppose it's nothing really like them.<< Same here. they do that melancholy but uplifting thing extremely well. Of course there are significant JD links - Doves used to be managed by Rob Gretton. And that beard.... >> > Of course, both Elbow and Doves have > described themselves as prog:<< Have they? NME described Doves as the new Radiohead! Saw Elbow supporting New Order last year. Very downbeat sound. Not sure that's what the world is waiting for... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:15:00 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today Beat me to it! Must read all messages before replying... Mark << If it's the song that begins 'I want to walk through Sodom with a boy on my arm' (or similar) then it's 'I Bloodbrother Be'. Think it was on El records. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:40:27 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today > Erm, yes. Apart from one of Wylie's more ridiculous song titles ending in > (Part 154) I can't think of anything at all.... > > Mark You're doing yourself a dis-service Mark. You're right! I knew you'd get it... The opening track on the Pete Wylie & Wah! The Mongrel album 'Infamy! or How I Didn't Get Where I Am Today' (and a single apparently) was indeed entitled 'Don't Lose Your Dreams (Excerpt From A Teenage Opera Part 154)'. What do you mean, ridiculous titles??? (No wonder it didn't get any airplay - can you imagine the poor DJ saying that was 'Don't Lose Your Dreams (Excerpt From A Teenage Opera Part 154)', from the album 'Infamy! or How I Didn't Get Where I Am Today' by Pete Wylie & Wah! The Mongrel. God forbid. I once read that Wylie sub-titled that track like that because he though it showed two parts of his music influences - a single from his early years (you know, the one that goes 'grocer jack, grocer jack...') and an album he loved from later on. Keith > << changing the subject again mark, i had you down as favourite to name the > wire/wylie connection... > do you need a clue? >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:26:19 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today In a message dated 4/24/02 3:35:25 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << and talking of avoiding things - do you know I've still managed to avoid seeing a single 'rocky' movie. i accidentally caught a bit of one last week, which only made me more determined to proudly keep up my stallone no-go policy. keith >> Cheers to you Keith! i have tried the same thing...actually, had it not been for Predator i would have been able to avoid Schwazenegger as well.... Robert Lynn n.p.: Amorphous Androgynous - "Tales of Ephidrina" (man, Future Sound of London were top notch...a shame about one the member's illness) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:28:45 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies In a message dated 4/24/02 7:43:02 AM Central Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << yes, all the RT singles are collated on the Living Legends CD. A must-have (despite the crap title)... Mark >> and the crap artwork and crap booklet with nothing in it really.... Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:46:39 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies > << yes, all the RT singles are collated on the Living Legends CD. A must-have > (despite the crap title)... > > Mark >> > > and the crap artwork and crap booklet with nothing in it really.... > > Robert Lynn > but APART from that, what did the cabs ever do for us??? keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:41:34 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] cabbies Perfect candidate for cd-r then A << yes, all the RT singles are collated on the Living Legends CD. A must-have (despite the crap title)... Mark >> and the crap artwork and crap booklet with nothing in it really.... Robert Lynn ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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On the other side, if you WOULD have paid more, why didn't you bid more? Also, remember all auctions are decided by one bid ... for music usually 50 cents to a dollar. So even if you lost by less than a dollar it might be the case that the other guy outbid you by some huge amount. None of which makes a last minute loss any less disappointing. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:24:29 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay << First, let me say that I think last second bidders (who make a regular practice of doing so, let's ay) are very impolite. >> It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, someone will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:31:59 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay In a message dated 4/24/02 10:25:26 AM Central Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, someone will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... Mark >> me too...what is the point of bidding early and driving the price up even further?...my objective is to get whatever i am bidding on..NOT to be "polite" to those that have bid..... RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:34:09 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today Truly I am the god of trivia ;-) Mark << You're doing yourself a dis-service Mark. You're right! I knew you'd get it... >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:42:51 +0200 From: "bartvandamme@home" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back > incidentally there's a poll for people to vote for best closing track on a > Moz album. for some reason i assumed 'meat is murder' would walk it, but it > only got something 8%. the winner so far is my fave - 'speedway'. fab track. I chose Suffer Little Children! While we're on that subject, is Marcus Harvey's portrait of Myra Hindley still in the Tate? Bart http://www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:04:10 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay > << It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, > someone > will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... > Mark >> > > me too...what is the point of bidding early and driving the price up even > further?...my objective is to get whatever i am bidding on..NOT to be > "polite" to those that have bid..... > RL this is developing into a very bizarre conversation!!! 'the art of bidding ettiquete' could almost be a wire title... keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:30:59 -0600 From: Neil Soiseth Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay When I first started eBayin', I was right into the virtual auction aspect and being sneaky and all, but I decided it'd be easier to figure out what I was willing to pay for it and pop that price in. If it holds it holds, if not, well, obviously I wasn't willing to pay more than the other guy. Curiously enough, the last time I got into a bidding war, it was for a copy of the boot Come Back In Two Halves. I won, but after talking with the guy I beat, I let him have it and he made me a copy gratis. Feel bad jacking up the price for him after all that. Neil on 24.4.02 9:31 AM, RLynn9@aol.com at RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/24/02 10:25:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > > << It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, > someone > will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... > > Mark >> > > me too...what is the point of bidding early and driving the price up even > further?...my objective is to get whatever i am bidding on..NOT to be > "polite" to those that have bid..... > > RL They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:59:51 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay At 11:24 AM 4/24/02 EDT, you wrote: ><< First, let me say that I think last second bidders (who make a regular > practice of doing so, let's ay) are very impolite. >> > >It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, someone >will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... True. I do wait until toward the end myself. But I've seen prices flying way over the items worth as last second bidders madly fight for them, so I'm not sure it always works. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:20:02 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! > anyone remember "sensoria" single? haven't heard it in a long time, but that too was one of my fave cab records... keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:31:45 -0400 From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back keith: incidentally there's a poll for people to vote for best closing track on a Moz album. for some reason i assumed 'meat is murder' would walk it, but it only got something 8%. the winner so far is my fave - 'speedway'. fab track. - ---------- yes, speedway is great one..vauxhall is probably my fave moz solo disc. however, i think "some girls are biggger..." and "tomorrow" were excellent album closers as well... too bad about the moz record being downgraded to a rumor..but it does *sound* true...sanctuary did release the new pet shop boys record here in the states and they may also be handling the release of the new pulp album here...if moz does release anything it could probably be a double album...i bet he's held back a lot of stuff in the past years...imagine if mark e smith was denied a record deal for 5 years... ~michael np wir- first letter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:41:23 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! In a message dated 4/24/02 12:15:03 PM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << > anyone remember "sensoria" single? >> D-D-D-Do Right....Always Work...Go to Church...Do right..... p.s. Did ya ever notice the huge Cabs "Micro-Phonies" poster on Ferris Bueller's wall in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off "....man, back in the day i would have killed for that sucker!...oh who am i trying to kid..i'd kill for it now! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:06:08 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Driving w/ PF4 Very strange. I was in Stevenage on Friday morning, the day of Bristol. The first roundabout in from the northern end (by Sainsbury's) is sponsored by the COMET. (Local rag I suppose) AndyL >> Michael, >> >> Weird causality shit like that happens to me a lot.... >> >> A while back I was driving along listening to Pornography by the >> Cure. At the >> point in 100 Years where Robert Smith actually sings the song's title, a >> truck drove past with the words '100 years of service' written >> on the back. >> >> That's one that springs to mind - there have been others..... >> >> Mark >> << I swear this part is true: while sitting there I looked up at >> a lamppost. >> It was (officially) marked PF4. >> >> Not claiming anything but a rather big coincidence, >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:17:44 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today In a message dated 24/04/2002 16:34:37 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > Truly I am the god of trivia ;-) > > Mark > You have certainly astounded me on occasions.And I thought I was the anti christ of utter brainshite retention.It must be a gift. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:25:37 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay In a message dated 24/04/2002 16:59:34 GMT Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > this is developing into a very bizarre conversation!!! > 'the art of bidding ettiquete' could almost be a wire title... Oh dear what has started here. Can I just interject & lamely say I do not make a point of bidding late & upsetting other bidders.It has happened to me countless times but I just shrug it off & hope another copy of whatever I've missed out on comes along soon. Like a bus really....or not. E-bay topic finished.I still bought 3 CD's from my local store today. They were; Jeff Beck - The Best Of Beckology Bjork - Post Magnetophone - CD NP The Warm Jets - Future Signs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:29:45 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today << You have certainly astounded me on occasions.And I thought I was the anti christ of utter brainshite retention.It must be a gift. >> Or a curse ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:34:26 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today Mark you gotta think positive.You may be on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire & for the big money you drag up some useless piece of toss from 25 years ago & win a fortune.Well it's possible ! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:57:25 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! In a message dated 4/24/02 1:42:41 PM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: >keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > ><< > anyone remember "sensoria" single? > >> > >D-D-D-Do Right....Always Work...Go to Church...Do right..... > >p.s. Did ya ever notice the huge Cabs "Micro-Phonies" poster on Ferris >Bueller's wall in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off "....man, back in the day i >would >have killed for that sucker!...oh who am i trying to kid..i'd kill for >it now! yep, great one. as much as i love voice of america and the early singles, i still prefer listening to everything from crackdown through code, especially tracks like sensoria, i want you, james brown, do right, warm, 24-24, crackdown, just fascination! so much great stuff. and yeah, those john hughes (is that his name?) movies did point to a lot of cool stuff, even if it wasn't always on the soundtrack :o( now that would've been something! - -paul (don't argue with me) c.d. n.p. various-hicks from the sticks some very cool stuff on there, including a cabbie produced clock dva song, and a band called modern eon. anyone know what became of them? fantastic stuff, akin to factory bands like the names or the wake. p.s. just heard a couple of songs by elbow today. very good (what i heard so far). also caught a glimpse of a big fischerspooner article in nme. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:02:16 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay Michael Flaherty: First, let me say that I think last second bidders (who make a regular practice of doing so, let's ay) are very impolite. /////////////////////////// Michael, You *must* be Canadian. Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:04:12 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! I've got the 12" mix on my CD copy of Micro-Phonies. mmmmmm...... Eric in Toronto - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Keith Astbury Sent: April 24, 2002 1:20 PM To: David Heale; bartvandamme@home Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! > anyone remember "sensoria" single? haven't heard it in a long time, but that too was one of my fave cab records... keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:07:02 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! << > anyone remember "sensoria" single? >> It is also one of my all-time favourite videos, along with "ahead" and "souvenir" by OMD. Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:11:15 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Cabbies HAIL YET MORE CABS! In a message dated 4/24/02 2:07:18 PM Central Daylight Time, eklaver@elysium-sl.com writes: << anyone remember "sensoria" single? >> It is also one of my all-time favourite videos, along with "ahead" and "souvenir" by OMD. Eric in Toronto >> what's the Souvenir video like?? RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:16:36 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza any fans on this lil list here? i always liked them, and either didn't realize or somehow forgot that they are currently active. has anyone seen them recently (or back in the day)? i'm listening to what i think is the only new release they have, songs of the beautiful wanton, a 1999 album on solielmoon recordings. very delicate and eerily beautiful, as even their early rougher sounding stuff was capable of being. cheers, paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:37:26 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Juxtaposition online at www.kdhx.org Hello all....here is an e-mail that my friend Rob sent me...his radio show "Juxtaposition" is on tonight and you can check it out online at www.kdhx.org....you might remember me mentioning it before...it comes on from 8pm to 10pm USA central standard time..on Wednesday nights (see below)..i doubt any of my European friends will be up at 2am Thursday morning but i thought i'd try anyway.....it's a great show and so is the one right after it...St. Louis' only volunteer public radio show...if you can, please give it a listen! tonight on Juxtaposition....... new music from wilco, luna, mooney suzuki, jon spencer blues explosion, plaid, peter murphy, white stripes, super furry animals and the pet shop boys. plus, my bloody valentine, royskopp and robyn hitchcock! juxtaposition can be heard on kdhx 88.1 fm from 8-10pm cst. or from 9-11 est. for those in europe it will be thurs morning from 2-4am. kdhx can be heard on line at www.kdhx.org >>>>> Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:27:27 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back >if moz does release anything it could probably be a double album...i bet he's held back a lot of stuff in the past >years...imagine if mark e smith was denied a record deal for 5 years... > > ~michael i'm sure i read awhile ago that moz had gone (or was about to go) into the studio - he just didn't have a label - so the record is probably done and dusted. (the man truly does have some sort of self-destruct button when it comes to his career though - i know the business can be harsh and record co.'s are getting rid of bands, but there's no way he should have got himself into that position. he should have been bigger and beyond that). as for mark e. smith, if he was minus a deal for five years he would undoubtedly combust... keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:31:09 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Driving w/ PF4 > Very strange. I was in Stevenage on Friday morning, the day of Bristol. The > first roundabout in from the northern end (by Sainsbury's) is sponsored by > the COMET. (Local rag I suppose) > AndyL I thought you were gonna say you popped to 'Comet' (famous UK electrical store)... > >> Michael, > >> > >> Weird causality shit like that happens to me a lot.... > >> > >> A while back I was driving along listening to Pornography by the > >> Cure. At the > >> point in 100 Years where Robert Smith actually sings the song's title, a > >> truck drove past with the words '100 years of service' written > >> on the back. > >> > >> That's one that springs to mind - there have been others..... > >> > >> Mark > >> << I swear this part is true: while sitting there I looked up at > >> a lamppost. > >> It was (officially) marked PF4. > >> > >> Not claiming anything but a rather big coincidence, >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:28:15 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back In a message dated 4/24/02 3:22:45 PM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << i'm sure i read awhile ago that moz had gone (or was about to go) into the studio - he just didn't have a label - so the record is probably done and dusted. (the man truly does have some sort of self-destruct button when it comes to his career though - i know the business can be harsh and record co.'s are getting rid of bands, but there's no way he should have got himself into that position. he should have been bigger and beyond that). >> what actually happend?...how did he lose his contract or whatever? Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:39:02 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] OT: Play for Today > Mark > you gotta think positive.You may be on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire & for > the big money you drag up some useless piece of toss from 25 years ago & win > a fortune.Well it's possible ! > Chris The trouble is I've yet to see an episode of 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire' where they've asked a question about Shockheaded Peters. I come across this inconsiderate line of questioning when I go to a pub quiz - they'll ask loads of questions about various battles and Henry VIII but absolutely nothing about Iggy Pop or 'Peggy Suicide'... Keith (who knows the date of the Battle of Hastings and that Ann of Cleves was the ugly wife, but that's about it) n.p. a cheapo cockney rebel compilation. ('mr soft' to be precise...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:36:43 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] now playing... Durutti Column - Lips That Would Kiss cd......amazingly i found this on my lunchbreak at a local used store for $4.99....I love this cd...now if i could just find Time Was Gigantic and The Sporadic Recordings..... Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:44:31 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot : morrissey is back > (the man truly does have some sort of self-destruct button when it > comes to his career though - i know the business can be harsh and record > co.'s are getting rid of bands, but there's no way he should have got > himself into that position. he should have been bigger and beyond that). >> > > what actually happend?...how did he lose his contract or whatever? > Robert Lynn oh i don't know any inside information, i was just referring to the way he continually f***ed things up. sack a manager, put a friend in charge, fall out with people, never speak to anyone who has crossed his path ever again, release inferior 'product' when the world's at his feet, that sort of thing. but then again maybe it's his flaws that make the man so interesting... keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:49:13 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Juxtaposition online at www.kdhx.org robert said > tonight on Juxtaposition....... > > new music from wilco, luna, mooney suzuki, jon spencer > blues explosion, plaid, peter murphy, white stripes, > super furry animals and the pet shop boys. > > plus, my bloody valentine, royskopp and robyn > hitchcock! this sounds really good robert. i'll probably be in bed by then, but i do find it fascinating that technology allows us in the uk to listen to your local radio show. btw who are mooney suzuki? i presume they're called that in tribute to can (as opposed to some butt-naked mnotorcyclist) - do they sound can influenced or not. keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:10:28 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Modern Eon << some very cool stuff on there, including a cabbie produced clock dva song, and a band called modern eon. anyone know what became of them? fantastic stuff, akin to factory bands like the names or the wake. >> One album (Fiction Tales) and gone. From Liverpool - singer had a splendid 'caalm down' tache and mullet combo if I recall correctly - saw them at Wolverhampton Lafayett club, 1981. Their "hit" was called Euthenics and it was released at least twice in a vain bid for Exploding Bunny in the Dark coat tails chart stardom... I beileve there is a mailing list similar to Idealcopy dedicated to Modern Eon - so someone still carries a torch for 'em.! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza There is a radio station at a local JC that used to play them in the 80's. Never really got inspired by them, but love the name! I'd be interested in hearing what they're up to these days, regardless. ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://3rproductions.com Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:16:07 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza << any fans on this lil list here? i always liked them, and either didn't realize or somehow forgot that they are currently active. has anyone seen them recently (or back in the day)? i'm listening to what i think is the only new release they have, songs of the beautiful wanton, a 1999 album on solielmoon recordings. very delicate and eerily beautiful, as even their early rougher sounding stuff was capable of being. >> I saw them many times way back 1980-83 when. They were regulars on the Birmingham pub circuit in those days (along with the Nightingales and the Cravats). Great little band - just the two of them, with Peter Becker playing keyboards, snare drums, percussion etc all at the same time while Martyn Bates sang and played guitar. Engagingly primitive - and hugely prolific. Got the first two albums and some singles (Invisibility is really excellent) but lost interest as the 80s progressed - you can have too much of a good thing. Didn't know they were still going. I'm pretty sure it must be a recent reformation rather than a constant existence. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:20:08 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza << There is a radio station at a local JC that used to play them in the 80's. Never really got inspired by them, but love the name! >> Eyeless in Gaza is a book by Aldous Huxley.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:22:18 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza In a message dated 24/04/2002 22:20:48 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > > Eyeless in Gaza is a book by Aldous Huxley.... > > Mark > See. there you go again ! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:31:16 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Driving w/ PF4 > > Very strange. I was in Stevenage on Friday morning, the day of Bristol. >The first roundabout in from the northern end (by Sainsbury's) is sponsored >by the COMET. >><< I swear this part is true: while sitting there I looked up at >>a lamppost. It was (officially) marked PF4. this is all getting very Kurt Vonnegut... and if you haven't read any of his stuff, get 'Breakfast Of Champions' to get the vibe of the above 'weird' shit...! ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:37:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza It's a bit like St Vitus' Dance. But in the head! Mark << See. there you go again ! >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:47:12 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Losing on Ebay > ><< First, let me say that I think last second bidders (who make a regular > > practice of doing so, let's ay) are very impolite. >> > > > >It's a way of keeping prices down! If you show your hand too early, someone > >will always outbid you. So I always bid late.... > > True. I do wait until toward the end myself. But I've seen prices flying > way over the items worth as last second bidders madly fight for them, so > I'm not sure it always works. > I generally wait until late to bid, but it often works against me. I don't bid anything when I have a chance, then I get busy and forget to bid at the appointed time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza So after musing on them for a bit, I went to a local record store and found "Voice - The Best of Eyeless in Gaza" for $9.00! I'm not generally a 'best of' buyer, but thought this one looked pretty good. It's cued up and will play as soon as the new Peter Murphy finishes up. That album is pretty interesting so far! Very Turkish, (naturally) and lots of violin. His voice still sounds great! hasta ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://3rproductions.com Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:27:26 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: now playing... In a message dated 4/24/02 4:36:43 PM, RLynn 9 writes: >Durutti Column - Lips That Would Kiss cd......amazingly i found this on >my lunchbreak at a local used store for $4.99....I love this cd...now if >i could just find Time Was Gigantic and The Sporadic Recordings..... wow! what a find. that's the only one i haven't got. time was...should still be easily bought online (the only thing is at what price!). believe me, i know how much it can hurt the ol wallet to buy durutti column and james cds these days! and...good news robert...sporadic is being rereleased as a 2cd with (as you could assume) the original cd plus a bunch more stuff. i may have to go for this just for the 2nd disc, hrm. enjoy! - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:40:39 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot- eyeless in gaza In a message dated 4/24/02 5:16:07 PM, Mark Bursa writes: >Engagingly primitive - and hugely prolific. Got the first two albums and >some singles (Invisibility is really excellent) but lost interest as the >80s progressed - you can have too much of a good thing. yes indeed. i love new risen as well. when cds were a new thing i was lucky to find a couple with 2 records on each. i think you may be right about getting too much of a good thing. between my cds and vinyl, there's a real abundance of "engaginly primitive" music there! still real good stuff though. >Didn't know they were still going. I'm pretty sure it must be a recent >reformation rather than a constant existence. i believe that's what it is. it is really nice to see so much of the old factory/crepescule/cherry red type stuff making a big (?) comeback. i know the info hasn't been posted at the factory mailing list yet, but any tuxedomoon fans out there will be interested to know that ltm will be releasing something by them (i think from "the vaults") soon. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #127 *******************************