From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #115 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 05 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] R+B art print [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] R+B art print ["bartvandamme@home" ] Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all - THE WINNER!! [Mark McQuitty] Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Trivia Round 2 [Mark McQuitty ] [idealcopy] Fwd: LTM ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] Hello ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Streaming Audio ["Antony Jordan" ] Re: [idealcopy] Speaking of Factory ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] to be #2....... ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] to be........ ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] the room/top ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio ["Antony Jordan" ] Re: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Fw: gigs [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] 2 questions and a playlist [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] 2 questions and a playlist [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: Re: [idealcopy] Hello ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Babies/Trail of the Dead ["Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] R+B art print How many listers have put their card into a frame ...with the autographs at the front? I know I have later A ps welcome another the keith ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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I know of at least one but interested to know if you all guess the same :) MarkM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: News from All Tomorrow's Parties/OT - --- donotreply@wayaheadzz3.com wrote: > From: donotreply@wayaheadzz3.com > Subject: News from All Tomorrow's Parties > To: luvjazzz@yahoo.com > > text/plain;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > Reply-to: donotreply@wayaheadzz3.com > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:56:58 +0100 > > Dear ATP Friends, > > NEWS UPDATES FOR THIS WEEK > > 4 x 5 chalets RELEASED FOR WEEKEND ONE > > Please note we have just released four x 5 > berth chalets for weekend one April 19th 21st > 2002. They are available through the website > http://www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk or by > calling Wayahead ticketline on > +44 (0)115-912-9000. > > > WHO IS CURATING ATP UK 2003? > > We are announcing the curator of ATP UK 2003 > to all of our loyal email subscribers next > week so if you aren't a member of our mailing > list, then this would be a good time to join > so you can find out who is curating ATP UK > 2003 before anyone else and you will be given > the opportunity to buy tickets before anyone > else. Have you guessed who it is yet? > > > TIME SLOT CHANGING FOR WEEKEND ONE > > Also note that the Oxes and Dianogah have > swapped Time slots on weekend one in case > you thought you were seeing things. > > > TICKETS FOR WEEKEND TWO > > Tickets are still available for Weekend two but > all 5 and 8 berths for that weekend are gone. > So if you fancy a 4. 6 or a 7 berth we still have > only a few left and tickets are available from > the site or by calling Wayahead on > +44 (0)115-912-9000 > > > WILL OLDHAM AKA BONNIE PRINCE BILLY SPECIAL > > For all you fans of Will Oldham, Palace or Bonnie > Prince Billy, we are proud to announce that > Bonnie Prince Billy will be performing a rare > and exclusive performance of his 'Arise Therefore' > LP from start to finish and in sequence to the > record. This show will take place on weekend two > only and could be worth the admission price alone? > > > SHELLAC PLAY 6 TIMES AT ATP UK > > Yes, that's right Shellac are performing three > times per weekend at ATP and like many other > bands will be performing a full set. If ATP 2000 > was anything to go by, you will not be let down > as Shellac are possibly the best live band on the > planet. If you don't agree you have either never > seen them or think the Strokes are good live and > we all know the Stroke(r)s are Menswear in > disguise so make sure you don't miss out on > Shellac! > > ATP CD COMPILATION VOLUME 3 > > A brand new ATP compilation to coincide with the > Shellac curated event will be available on April > 19th and features unreleased tracks by the likes > of Rachel's and Bonnie Prince Billy as well as > some newer acts like Threnody Ensemble that will > blow your mind. This will be on sale at ATP UK > along with Volumes 1 and 2 that featured previous > curators Tortoise and Sonic Youth. This hits the > shops in the UK on April 29th 2002. > > > Ok that's it for now, keep smiling and see you > next week for the madness of the double weekender > > Barry Hogan > ATP > www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk > ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:08:27 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Hello >> what's the count on keiths and pauls here? :o) ....a few Andrews about as well :-) AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:40:03 +0200 From: "bartvandamme@home" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R+B art print *BOOHOOooOOooo* I still haven't received my copy! *BOOHOOooOOooo* Bart :-[ http://www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl > How many listers have put their card into a frame > ...with the autographs at the front? > > I know I have > > later > > A ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:44:17 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all << Quiz time (no prize, just respect) - who can name a Wire track that features all three vocalists. I know of at least one but interested to know if you all guess the same :) >> Pieta Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:03:27 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: RE: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all - THE WINNER!! Well done Mark. I knew it would be you who got it! :) - -----Original Message----- From: MarkBursa@aol.com [mailto:MarkBursa@aol.com] Sent: 15 April 2002 11:44 To: Mark.McQuitty@dickinsoncontrol.co.uk Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all << Quiz time (no prize, just respect) - who can name a Wire track that features all three vocalists. I know of at least one but interested to know if you all guess the same :) >> Pieta Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:39:04 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all OK try this one - Name two Wire songs which were re-recoded with a different member of Wire on vocals (ie the original version was sung by one member, the later version by another...) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:54:44 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] Trivia Round 2 OK, I can get 'Ambitious' but I'm struggling for another, give us a hint :) Is it 70's / 80's / 90's Wire? MarkM - -----Original Message----- From: MarkBursa@aol.com [mailto:MarkBursa@aol.com] Sent: 15 April 2002 12:39 To: Mark.McQuitty@dickinsoncontrol.co.uk Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all OK try this one - Name two Wire songs which were re-recoded with a different member of Wire on vocals (ie the original version was sung by one member, the later version by another...) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:00:46 -0400 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trivia Round 2 is it "feed me" ? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:05:32 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cool Factory collectables Yes, it does exist but I can't remember its name. I'll have a dig through my box of ancient Cartel stuff if nobody can find it. John >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >To: iansjackson@hotmail.com >CC: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cool Factory collectables >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:14:34 EDT > > >>so, Mark, Keith, anyone...how much is my True Faith 94 promo >'logo-slide' >puzzle worth? ;)<< > >Stick it on ebay and find out! > >There's supposed to be a Fac specialist shop in Mcr - but I've never found >it >and can't remember the name. It's in the suburbs somewhere, not in the city >centre... > >Mark http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:12:35 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: [idealcopy] Suicide/Manc Fac Shop Suicide's A Way of Life came out on Chapter 22 Records in the UK. Pity poor Jem from the label who had to sit inbetween the two of them in a car journey from Scotland to London on their few gigs over here to promote the album. They didn't really feel the need to hire a coach I suppose but there's no need to subject the label to that kind of abuse. Factory shop in Manchester is Record Peddlar I think. Cheers John >From: "Keith Astbury" >To: "dan bailey" , "idealcopy" > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] classic 2nd albums >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:58:51 +0100 > >dad said > > otherwise, citing suicide's 2nd as superior to their first is just ... > > highly questionable. > >i think the 1st is a great statement - it's original, scary, influential >(and i love it), but the second is the one i actually like listening to >most. and you're gonna think i'm really stupid now, but i also prefer the >third (a way of life) too. sorry... >incidentally there's a new suicide album coming out later this year - >delayed until sept apparently. title not known... >keith http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:15:00 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello I'm surprised that none of the Keiths want to be called Keef... John >From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:09:42 EDT > >In a message dated 4/14/02 12:09:33 PM, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > > >Hi new Keith, or should we better call you Knight as to avoid >identification > >troubles? [KK?] > > > > > >> I've been lurking here for a few weeks so I guess it's time to say >hello. > > > >> I'm a UK res (Luton). Another Keith unfortunately although I'll doubt > >I'll > >> be as prolific as Mr Astbury. > >what's the count on keiths and pauls here? :o) > >new keith, feel free to go by "another the keith" as i often use that one >myself...only with paul on the end instead of keith ;o) > >as colin newman once said..."welcome welcome" > >-another the paul http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:23:13 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: LTM Don't know what the rates are for US but thought I'd let you know... >To: "Stats2 (E-mail)" >Subject: LTM >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:03:41 +0100 > >Are your IdealCopyist 'Factory' buddies aware that the recent spate of >reissues and the new crop are available direct from LTM just a tenner each >incl postage? > >http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/ltmhome.html > http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:28:40 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello > I'm surprised that none of the Keiths want to be called Keef... > John I went through my Keef Le Groover spell some years ago! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:29:42 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all The Other Window? John >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >To: Mark.McQuitty@dickinsoncontrol.co.uk >CC: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A trivia question for y'all >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:39:04 EDT > >OK try this one - > >Name two Wire songs which were re-recoded with a different member of Wire >on >vocals (ie the original version was sung by one member, the later version >by >another...) > >Mark http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:32:50 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Babies/Trail of the Dead > > Am I getting old? My sister lent me a And You Will Know Us By The Trail >of > > The Dead (or whatever they're called) CD. I must say that I'm >struggling >to > > find a more derivative band this side of Pavement. > > John > >the one i've got is *very* sonic youth at times...still i'm impressed that >your sister likes them. mine likes runrig... >keith Maybe they should call themselves And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Our Lee Ronaldo Guitar Tunings? Or something. The album my sister lent me is 'Madonna'. It's not just that they sound exactly like 'Daydream Nation' but that the lyrics are the stuff of a 13 yr old Beat wannabe. Utter tosh. My sister likes Guns N Roses too. John http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:23:55 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Brooks?= Subject: [idealcopy] R+B well, I haven't framed the print, but after listening to this for most of the morning, my only gripe is that it's not long enough! Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:08:01 -0400 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries Because George won the case on appeal 15years ago when it was discovered Allan Klein manipulatated the whole thing to rip George off in revenge for being fired. - Steve. G - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries > >>why - if george harrison lost that famous > court case over ripping off he's so fine - is MSL still credited (on the > recent re-issue) as being written solely by george harrison? don't get that > one at all.<< > > Perhaps under the terms of the legal settlement the writers were paid x > million dollars but in return relinquished rights to the tune? > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:23:40 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] ot : Boards of Canada & Godspeed You Black Emperor streams someone posted this on another list, i know a lot of people dig BoC and GYBE here... ~michael (the only michael on the list?!) - ------------------------------------------ Hi everybody, I just stumbled across the website for this French independent radio station, Aligre FM 93.1, and they have a amazing 1h 30m program in Real Audio dedicated to Boards of Canada (containing loads of remixes and rare tracks, pre-MHTRTC). Go here: http://www.helterskelterfm.com/ and click on "playlists". In this same section, they have links to two halves of a Godspeed You Black Emperor! program, dedicated mostly to a live show they played in Paris, January 22 of this year. The Godspeed broadcasts will only be available until April 20 - the BoC broadcast seems to be unlimited. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:20:32 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] wire tour I don't have the inside scoop on this, but I'd think that given this criterion, the only other North American cities that might be added to a future tour would be Atlanta, Toronto, and maybe Detroit or Cleveland. later, Miles ///////////////////// I can only hope. Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:33:38 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries > Because George won the case on appeal 15years ago when it was discovered > Allan Klein manipulatated the whole thing to rip George off in revenge for > being fired. - Steve. G bloody hell. is that true??? if so that is truly amazing. keith > > >>why - if george harrison lost that famous > > court case over ripping off he's so fine - is MSL still credited (on the > > recent re-issue) as being written solely by george harrison? don't get that > > one at all.<< > > > > Perhaps under the terms of the legal settlement the writers were paid x > > million dollars but in return relinquished rights to the tune? > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:10:44 -0400 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: gigs As per Keith's suggestion, I am fowarding this correspondence between him and me regarding two show I saw in NYC last month, Television and Roy Wood's Army. For all who are interested ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Graziano To: Keith Astbury Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Re: gigs Sorry so slow on the reply, Keith. Anyway Both gigs were great. Television played for almost 2 hours and were in amazing form. Very very strong and precise. They did succumb to "the Television disease" though and spent intermible times between songs tuning, but since the songs depend on those precise interweaving arppegios, the results were well worth it. Most notable about the gig I think was that there were about 5 tracks that I didn't recognize, though one sounded like an instrumental from Tom's Warm and Cool album, before it segued into "Pyschotic Reaction" - taken at a real strange tempo, an easy lope. Otherwise they played tracks from all three studio albums, plus Little Johnny Jewel, and a big suprise O Mi Amoree. They all looked great. Fred was positively distinguished, Billy looked the same except a little grey. Verlaine was actually telling jokes from the stage. A marvelous night. Roy's show was great also, but in a different way. It was definately, a trot out the hits and faves night. The band consisted of eleven - including an 8-peice horn section, the only males on stage were Roy, his bass player, drummer, and one in the horn section. Visual delights abounded, especially the main backup vocalists - The Naylor Twins. Setwise, he seemed to play all his singles, Move, Wizzard, solo (no ELO tunes though I was tempted to call out for 10538 Overture) some as discreet tunes, some in medlies. It was a very chummy occasion, Roy constantly asking us to join in if we know the words!!. Of course everyone knew all the words. I was there for the opening night, and the audience was such Roy fanatics!. Some of them looked like they hadn't been in the outdoors since the last time Roy played out here!! He played quite a bit of guitar, through a Marshall, and he still has great chops. Trotted out the bagpipe for one tune too. There were maybe four numbers that are newish - still carry that trademark Roy "rock history meets Frankenstein" construction. All in all a real fun night out. Not art, but a real joy that a private fascination exists in the real world. Evidently the show is already bootlegged and offered in the new issue of Goldmine (I think the Midnight Records ad) - Cheers - Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury To: Stephen Graziano Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: gigs Stephen Just as a matter of interest - what were the Television and Roy Wood gigs like? 'Marquee Moon' is undoubtedly one of my all-time fave LP's and as you may recall I'm always interested to hear what Roy Wood is up to (did he do Move & Wizzard stuff?) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:16:29 +0100 From: "Antony Jordan" Subject: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio Are there any computer boffs on the list who know how to download or record streaming audio (esp. real player files)? Tony ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:23:02 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio > Are there any computer boffs on the list who know how to download or > record streaming audio (esp. real player files)? Officially? (^_-) You have to have RealPlayerPro. And even then, as a Real content provider, I can prevent you from recording the stream. If you can get access to the .rm file, that's the actual media. The .ram file is a signpost to the .rm file - you can open it with a text editor, and see where the .rm file is located. However, unless they're using http as a streaming media server, chances are you probably can't download the .rm file. There are some hacking tools that emulate a RealPlayer/WindowsMediaPlayer, and record the stream from the server to your hard drive, but of course, I wouldn't know anything about that. (^_^) Good luck! Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:48:44 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Speaking of Factory of (over here, at least) no. 1 dominator fame? that one actually got some airplay -- never would've guessed the room/wild swans connection. dan >> the drummer alan wills (also wild swans) was a friend of a friend, but i >> only met in him passing myself. he later had a near brush with fame when >> together with the rooms guitarist and the bass player from the second >> version of the wild swans, he formed an early 90's pop act that had quite >a >> bit of exposure but whose name escapes me at the moment. >> keith > >just remembered. they were called Top... >keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:15:43 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Will Oldham@All Tomorrow's Parties/OT > > WILL OLDHAM AKA BONNIE PRINCE BILLY SPECIAL > > > > For all you fans of Will Oldham, Palace or Bonnie > > Prince Billy, we are proud to announce that > > Bonnie Prince Billy will be performing a rare > > and exclusive performance of his 'Arise Therefore' > > LP from start to finish and in sequence to the > > record. This show will take place on weekend two > > only and could be worth the admission price alone? shit...one of my favourite artists doing the entirety of one of my favourite LP's, never mind everything else that's on as well...and i can't make it...ATP manages to depress the fuck out of me every time i think about it...bollocks... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:29:22 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] to be........ >Considering my grandmother was born in Toxteth perhaps I've got a better >claim on scouseness than either of you!! > >Mark considering your love of cars, i would probably agree...!!! '...where the hub-caps...?' as a poet once said... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:31:39 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] to be #2....... >My mother's from Childwall. :) > >Andrew oooooo....posh..... ;) ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:52:53 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] to be........ all this liverpool stuff made me listen to pete wylie's epic 'heart as big as liverpool' today. he thanks mersey on the LP sleeve notes. am i right in saying that that is his daughter? i seem to recall reading this somewhere. ok her dad wrote 'better scream', but she's called mersey wylie. it's not fair is it... keith > >Considering my grandmother was born in Toxteth perhaps I've got a better > >claim on scouseness than either of you!! > > > >Mark > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:08:25 +0100 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] to be........ >all this liverpool stuff made me listen to pete wylie's epic 'heart as big >as liverpool' today. >he thanks mersey on the LP sleeve notes. am i right in saying that that is >his daughter? god its sad but it's true Keith, he called his kid 'Mersey'. ouch. 'heart as big...' makes me really cringe, a lot like Wylie does actually, and i've met him a few times... enough of the parochial shit, i'm ending it right now!!!!! aaaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhh, ian.s.j. (thank you) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:17:30 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] the room/top > of (over here, at least) no. 1 dominator fame? that one actually got some > airplay -- never would've guessed the room/wild swans connection. > > dan yes. that's the one. a minor hit over here i seem to recall. as i said the line up was alan wills (early wild swans drummer, then the room), the guitarist who was in the room on 'in evil hour' on gtr and vocs, and the bass player from the late 80's version of the wild swans. they were signed to a major label over here - island i think - and seemed to have a bit of record co. push but it didn't quite happen. they went for a bigger, more bombastic sound than their previous groups, which in my view was a mistake. (the guitarist was a *great* 'jangly' player in the room) incidentally, according to the sleeve notes with an album that was released last yr called 'unearthed' (liverpool cult classics vol. 1), benny profane went onto become Dust. it also says 'reference - the room, Dead Cowboys 'coming & goings' LP', but doesn't expand on this. 'unearthed' also features wild swans, it's immaterial, the balcony, space, the la's, and a great track by a shallow madness (pre-teardrops cope and simpson) i believe there's a vol. 2 already out there, but haven't got that one. keith > > > >> the drummer alan wills (also wild swans) was a friend of a friend, but i > >> only met in him passing myself. he later had a near brush with fame when > >> together with the rooms guitarist and the bass player from the second > >> version of the wild swans, he formed an early 90's pop act that had quite > >a > >> bit of exposure but whose name escapes me at the moment. > >> keith > > > >just remembered. they were called Top... > >keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:00:37 +0100 From: "Antony Jordan" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio Thanks to everyone for the advise. I've now got a programme called Total Recorder that does just the job. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:25:08 -0400 From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] 2 questions and a playlist 2 wire questions that have been nagging me: 1. what is the last thing colin shouts in "mercy" ? right before the end... 2. what is the unlisted track at the end of the 2nd "water communication" disc on ~swim? sounds like immersion... my playlist for today : susumu yokota - sakura (sublime stuff) swim team #2 (daily intake of wire) frente - marvin the album (i was in a cheery mood..remember their ace cover of bizarre love triangle?) michael mayer - immer (excellent mellow house mixed with some robotic kraftwerk-ish stuff..on the excellent kompakt label, anyone else dig this label?) autechre - lp5 (list faves...this is probably my favorite autechre release so far) my favorite - joan of arc awaiting trial EP (new york new wavers...dead on new order/smiths fusion - i love it) ellen allein - flieg mit (groovy mix cd of electro tunes on the bpitch control label) and randomly, there is a person named michael o'shea in one of my school classes this semester. no relation to the one from WMO, i bet. also, saw a copy of swim team #1 in the used bin the other day...*sigh* ~michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello/keef maybe they're afraid someone would grass on them.Ari - --- John Roberts wrote: > I'm surprised that none of the Keiths want to be > called Keef... > > John > > > >From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com > >To: idealcopy@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello > >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:09:42 EDT > > > >In a message dated 4/14/02 12:09:33 PM, > bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > > > > >Hi new Keith, or should we better call you Knight > as to avoid > >identification > > >troubles? [KK?] > > > > > > > > >> I've been lurking here for a few weeks so I > guess it's time to say > >hello. > > > > > >> I'm a UK res (Luton). Another Keith > unfortunately although I'll doubt > > >I'll > > >> be as prolific as Mr Astbury. > > > >what's the count on keiths and pauls here? :o) > > > >new keith, feel free to go by "another the keith" > as i often use that one > >myself...only with paul on the end instead of keith > ;o) > > > >as colin newman once said..."welcome welcome" > > > >-another the paul > > > > > > http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN > Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:37:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Streaming Audio I have a cassette recorder plugged into the audio 'out' socket,then I take the tape and put it in the hi-fi cassette deck and commit it to c.d.Ari - --- Antony Jordan wrote: > Are there any computer boffs on the list who know > how to download or > record streaming audio (esp. real player files)? > > Tony ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:40:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: gigs Would that be Keith 1,Keith 2,Sir Keith,or just plain Keef?Ari--- Stephen Graziano wrote: > As per Keith's suggestion, I am fowarding this > correspondence between him and > me regarding two show I saw in NYC last month, > Television and Roy Wood's Army. > For all who are interested ... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Graziano > To: Keith Astbury > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: gigs > > > Sorry so slow on the reply, Keith. Anyway > Both gigs were great. Television played for almost > 2 hours and were in > amazing form. Very very strong and precise. They > did succumb to "the > Television disease" though and spent intermible > times between songs tuning, > but since the songs depend on those precise > interweaving arppegios, the > results were well worth it. Most notable about the > gig I think was that there > were about 5 tracks that I didn't recognize, though > one sounded like an > instrumental from Tom's Warm and Cool album, before > it segued into "Pyschotic > Reaction" - taken at a real strange tempo, an easy > lope. Otherwise they > played tracks from all three studio albums, plus > Little Johnny Jewel, and a > big suprise O Mi Amoree. They all looked great. > Fred was positively > distinguished, Billy looked the same except a > little grey. Verlaine was > actually telling jokes from the stage. A marvelous > night. > > Roy's show was great also, but in a different way. > It was definately, a trot > out the hits and faves night. The band consisted of > eleven - including an > 8-peice horn section, the only males on stage were > Roy, his bass player, > drummer, and one in the horn section. Visual > delights abounded, especially > the main backup vocalists - The Naylor Twins. > Setwise, he seemed to play all his singles, Move, > Wizzard, solo (no ELO tunes > though I was tempted to call out for 10538 Overture) > some as discreet tunes, > some in medlies. > It was a very chummy occasion, Roy constantly asking > us to join in if we know > the words!!. Of course everyone knew all the words. > I was there for the > opening night, and the audience was such Roy > fanatics!. Some of them looked > like they hadn't been in the outdoors since the last > time Roy played out > here!! He played quite a bit of guitar, through a > Marshall, and he still has > great chops. Trotted out the bagpipe for one tune > too. There were maybe four > numbers that are newish - still carry that trademark > Roy "rock history meets > Frankenstein" construction. All in all a real fun > night out. Not art, but a > real joy that a private fascination exists in the > real world. > Evidently the show is already bootlegged and offered > in the new issue of > Goldmine (I think the Midnight Records ad) - Cheers > - Steve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Astbury > To: Stephen Graziano > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:24 PM > Subject: gigs > > > Stephen > Just as a matter of interest - what were the > Television and Roy Wood gigs > like? 'Marquee Moon' is undoubtedly one of my > all-time fave LP's and as you > may recall I'm always interested to hear what Roy > Wood is up to (did he do > Move & Wizzard stuff?) > Keith ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:58:47 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 2 questions and a playlist In a message dated 4/15/02 4:26:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Rain19c@aol.com writes: > also, saw a copy of swim team #1 in the used bin the other day...*sigh* > > ~michael > OOOOOOOHHH...i still don't have this!....how much was it??? Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:04:19 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 2 questions and a playlist To answer one of the questions; Moray Firth & Orkney or is it Murray Forth I never know..are two shipping forecast areas around the British Isles.He had been listening too much to Radio 4 as a teenager had our Colin. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:17:35 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] Hello - ----- Original Message ----- From: /////well i'm from dunstable (but escaped) so hi to good ol'bedfordshire. you a lutonian through and through or did you actually choose to go & live there? have to ask these things....p > - -------- No, I arrived in Luton through marriage - some 15 years ago now. I'm from Bath originally, so Luton in comparison is frankly a shithole but I stay sane by working in London. Having said that Luton went through a strange short renaissance (or should that be naissance?) a few years ago when a music venue briefly opened and I saw The Fall and Buzzcocks play wonderful sets within quick succession. Unfortunately it's just a nightclub now. At the same time there was a quirky week when - in a situation probably unparalleled outside the West End - four separate venues showed subtitled films in the same week only 15 minutes walk from my house! Two of those venues still exist. although subtitled fare tends to be spasmodic and for one performance only. Sadly Dunstable's famous (I say that but I can't remember the name offhand) music venue of the 60s / early 70s where the likes of the Stones and Zeppelin played is no more, not that it ever had a gig on in my time here. another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:26:31 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Babies/Trail of the Dead - ----- Original Message ----- From: John Roberts To: ; ; Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Babies/Trail of the Dead > > > Am I getting old? My sister lent me a And You Will Know Us By The Trail > >of > > > The Dead (or whatever they're called) CD. I must say that I'm > >struggling > >to > > > find a more derivative band this side of Pavement. > > > John > > > >the one i've got is *very* sonic youth at times...still i'm impressed that > >your sister likes them. mine likes runrig... > >keith > > Maybe they should call themselves And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Our > Lee Ronaldo Guitar Tunings? Or something. The album my sister lent me is > 'Madonna'. It's not just that they sound exactly like 'Daydream Nation' but > that the lyrics are the stuff of a 13 yr old Beat wannabe. Utter tosh. > > My sister likes Guns N Roses too. > > John > > --------- I've seen Trail of Dead twice and frankly I'm not impressed. Not only are they not up to SonicYouth lyrically but they can't do the guitar dynamics either. Admittedly the Youth are one of my favourite live acts, but Trail of Dead are just a lot of thrashing signifying nothing IMO. And MY sister likes Gareth Gates and she's 42! I must take umbrage, though, John about Pavement who for my money are the best band of the 90s and like Wire made me laugh a lot whenever I saw them (I know this maked me sound like a cackling gig idiot but that's probably accurate). Yes, Pavement could sound like The Fall but they could sound like the Byrds too and neither of those bands could sound like each other if you get my drift. another the Keith > > > > > http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #115 *******************************