From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #108 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, April 12 2002 Volume 05 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Gentlemen, Start your Zeitgeists [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] 1 - 10 ["Cambra, Robert" ] Re: [idealcopy] Gentlemen, Start your Zeitgeists [Neil Soiseth ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:59:03 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gentlemen, Start your Zeitgeists In a message dated 4/11/02 6:44:34 AM, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: >Anyway, there was another track there for download: > >The 15th. > >Yes, *that* The 15th. > >http://www.fischerspooner.com/the15th.mp3 > >Any reactions, apart from moderate shellshock? I'm trying to get my head >around the concept that the most hyped artists around at the moment are >a bunch of Wire-covering Situationist disco pranksters, but it's >definitely a state of affairs which beats the hell out of Limp Bizkit... okay. this is my favorite wire song, so let me be ultra critical and nit picky and say that upon first listen i don't care for the short attack on the vocals, especially when he sings "providing"...aside from that, i really enjoyed it. i wish it had "hit' written all over it, but for some reason i don't think that'll happen. i hope i'm wrong, cuz i'd love to see colin attain godlike status among all those disco dancin youngins! i didn't listen to any of the other fischerspooner downloads yet, so i can't really comment on them any more than that. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:00:23 -0400 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] 1 - 10 OK, a feeble attempt to rank importance by numbers: 1. Chairs Missing 2. Pink Flag 3. Dome 1 4. A-Z 5. Dome 2 6. 154 7. Hail! 8. Ideal Copy 9. The First Letter 10. It's All in the Brochure As I gaze upon my Pink-Flag-In-a-Jar, I am suffused with a sense of Wire 2000 - 1977. Eye, brain, music. A linking artifact. Isn't that what it's for? Oh, and I get a warm feeling, too. Robert *************************************************************** This message is intended only for the use of the individuals to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmission in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and all of its attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:32:31 -0600 From: Neil Soiseth Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gentlemen, Start your Zeitgeists >> Any reactions, apart from moderate shellshock? I'm trying to get my head >> around the concept that the most hyped artists around at the moment are >> a bunch of Wire-covering Situationist disco pranksters, but it's >> definitely a state of affairs which beats the hell out of Limp Bizkit... > > okay. this is my favorite wire song, so let me be ultra critical and nit > picky and say that upon first listen i don't care for the short attack on the > vocals, especially when he sings "providing"...aside from that, i really > enjoyed it. i wish it had "hit' written all over it, but for some reason i > don't think that'll happen. i hope i'm wrong, cuz i'd love to see colin > attain godlike status among all those disco dancin youngins! i didn't listen > to any of the other fischerspooner downloads yet, so i can't really comment > on them any more than that. I've never heard of this group so I definitely went into it with virgin ears, so to speak. Must say tho that I really dug their cover. Sounded like early OMD, which isn't that bad to me. I swear, Wire must make more money from covers royalties than their own actual album sales! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:14:40 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries In a message dated 4/11/02 11:32:22 AM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > >The Monochrome Set listened to love zombies and strange boutique last week. played goodbye joe on the geetar too. love that song. they had some great tracks on various cherry red comps too. should've been a great singles band like the smiths...well they were, but i really mean they should have been more recognized. anyone know what the band members are up to these days. >Richard Strange haven't heard in a long long time. never bought anything. >Ultramarine love love love every man and woman is a star. someone mentioned united kingdoms (the one with robert wyatt) recently. that's also good. >I Start Counting i have one record that i haven't played in ages. can't even remember what they sound like. maybe i'll put it on this weekend. robert, you've got me wanting to dive into my old vinyl that i've boxed away. must be some forgotten gems in there...i'll let you know what i find! - -paul (i'm reachin for the glaxo babies-nine months to the disco lp) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:21:21 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] real player In a message dated 4/11/02 6:28:44 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >the latest 'real player', but when >you play something it comes up with 'similar artists' (like amazon). i >was >playing 'turns & strokes' and it comes up with the following - buzzcocks, >blondie, fad gadget, the fall and the gang of four. that's pretty cool. i think i'll have to play the first 3 blondie lps this weekend. i'm interested if i'll hear anything i hadn't noticed before. haven't listened to those in a long time. paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:34:16 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: Fw: OIL BIZ/Reply ari writes to robert: >yours is the first >intelligent response,you win the prize-the c.d will be >on it's way tomorrow geez, i never thought my procrastination would get me grouped with the unintelligent ;o) i wanna start a band called the unintelligent responders. i'm thinkin maybe a grunge/ska/house/rap sorta thing. either that or pure pink noise. or maybe just white noise. i'll have to take some time to think about which kind of noise sounds best and come to an intel...uh, pink noise. i'm going with the pink noise. no. wait paul (i put 3,000 miles a year on my toyota corolla) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 01:57:08 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries >anybody out there remember any of the following?: > >The Monochrome Set got an lp somewhere, but my impression of them is based on a couple of singles &/or comp tracks from a friend's collection a couple of decades ago ... rather too, uh ... i dunno ... lounge-y (in the smooth, sophisticated sense, rather than the martin denny sense) for my taste, at least at the time. >Richard Strange really should play that 7" i picked up a couple of years ago -- international language. (bought it because that was the name of a good, sadly deceased friend's cabaret ubu-esque band back in phoenix in the early '80s). was he also in the doctors of madness (speaking of vinyl i've never gotten around to playing)? or am i thinking of steve strange? or neither? >I Start Counting just last month i decided to audition their "catalogue" retrospective in my car's tapedeck (which i only just got playing again after using a pair of tweezers to extract an apparently sun-warped copy of bill nelson's love that whirls/beauty & the beast ... god, that was harrowing -- the experience, that is, not the tape per se, which of course wouldn't play), only a decade or so (is it just me, or is a theme starting to emerge) after picking it up in the 25-cent bin at a mall record store (along with lots of other mute stuff, a couple of wire side-projects included). pretty decent, though a lot more mor-synthpoppish than i'd have expected, probably because when i think mute i think fad gadget or the cabs, say, rather than depeche mode (esp. since i identify the latter with whatever major label they're on over here). dan np: velvet goldmine soundtrack (car listening before the ill-fated bill nelson venture was the glam crazee comp, complete with *ahem* tiger feet, angel face, new york groove, my coo ca choo & can the can, among others ... none of which, i might point out, i'd ever heard before picking up this tape [which also marked my initial exposure to t rex's sublime metal guru & my epiphanistic reintroduction to son of my father after wondering for nigh unto 30 years just what that chorus i'd heard a bit of on the radio once as a kid could've possibly been from], as the acts in question were complete nonentities over here.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:02:27 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent re-discoveries >-paul (i'm reachin for the glaxo babies-nine months to the disco lp) c.d. can't remember if it's this one or put me on the guest list that has avoiding the issue on it ... christ, what a song. the rest of their stuff is a bit too, ah, abstract for unsophisticatedly pop-centric me. dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:08:35 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 10 wire albums >after much deliberation (and a few replays to be sure)...... > >01 chairs missing >02 154 >03 pink flag >04 a bell is a cup >05 IBTABA >06 the ideal copy >07 manscape >08 coatings >09 document and eyewitness >10 turns and strokes > >is it 10 favourite wire tracks next? oh, jesus, *that*'d be tough ... ex-lion tamer, mannequin, fragile, dot dash, used to, marooned, outdoor miner, another the letter, i am the fly, i should have known better, blessed state, map ref, the 15th, on returning, serious of snakes (coatings version), ahead ... nah, can't do it. dan > >Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:13:46 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] recent discoveries >Wall of Voodoo - "Call of the West"....what a great album!...this and Dark >Continent are really original sounding...Electronic Country & Western...Stan >Ridgeway and cohorts turn in fine stories of the dark underbelly of the >American West..everything from the life of a hopeless trailer park couple >regretting their life choices to the hilarious Mexican Radio...to broken down >cowpoke love songs and laments..good stuff... can't remember if anyone noted here that their guitartist, marc moreland, died just a few weeks ago. a real shame. much as i prize those 2 lp's (an impression certainly heightened by catching the band touring behind call of the west & nearly getting into a fight with a bouncer who took exception when the floor action got energetic during mexican radio), oddly enough over the last several years i've come to prefer their 2 post-stan-ridgway efforts, 7 days in sammystown & happy planet. >Robert Wyatt - "Shleep"....I have really been enjoying Robert Wyatt a lot >lately and finding this in a bargain bin for $4.99 was great....This cd has >the usual Robert Wyatt elements such as his unique vocals and wistful, >melancholy synths and keyboards, but this album has a jazzier and even blues >feel to it...really good listening... hmmm ... shleep just may be available across town in the used shop where i picked up my emergency replacement first letter last month. i'm sort of fond of nothing can stop us & whatever that comp cd's called ... mid-'80s? dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:16:09 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] manscape gave it a couple of spins last night &, y'know, despite being considerably patchier than the average wire lp, it's really pretty good. if we were doing a top 12 or so ... now i need to dig out my copies of life in the manscape & coatings to check out the non-album tracks, which if memory serves weren't bad at all. dan ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #108 *******************************