From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #94 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, April 2 2002 Volume 05 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! ["Eric Klaver" ] Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] heavy rotation ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Looking for A Certain Ratio? [Tim ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! [Santa Cruzer ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:41:30 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! Hurrah!!! The 12XU redux was a fine appetizer but I have been hankering for more. Would it be too much to ask for a few North American shows? Eric in Toronto - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of giluz Sent: March 31, 2002 5:03 AM To: ideal copy Subject: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! Stash your old 80's albums back in their old place - the new Wire has finally been officially announced (http://www.posteverything.com/news/article.php?id=1698): NEW WIRE RELEASE!!! Pinkflag will soon proudly unveil he first wholly new wire release for over 10 years. This landmark release marks the 1st shot in the 3Read and Burn2 series of sixpacks Title : WIRE  READ & BURN 01 Label: PINK FLAG (CD) Tracklisting: In The Art of Stopping/ I Don9t Understand/ Comet/ Germ Ship/ 1st Fast/ The Agfers of Kodack It will not surprise attendees of recent shows that these fierce new tracks show a newly invigorated band 3rocking like angry young men2 (to quote an insider). Although this item does not go on general release until May it will be exclusively available from pinkflag mail order through PostEverything as soon as stocks become available (around April 5th). In addition, in an offer exclusive to mail order customers only, the CD will be dispatched with a signed, limited edition print, featuring the band, excerpted from a forthcoming video. Price #10.00 + postage giluz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:08:40 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation The sound were a great band. Adrian Borland was a great songwriter, guitarist and singer - he just lacked the looks or image required at the time. I know they weren't 'punk', but i thought 'heyday' - with it's ferocious guitar and sheer energy - was the last great punk record (till a flux of pink indians 'tube diaster' cama along a few years later). I never saw the sound live myself, but i know people who saw them at various stages of their career and thought they were sublime (i remember one old mate seeing them at the marquee i think it was and was so impressed he went back the next night!) i really regret not seeing adrian borland play a free solo gig at abbey mills (a sort of craft market) in south london one bank holiday a few years ago. i got there too late. ah well, some things are just not meant to be... Think i might have to buy some of the re-issues and fill in a couple of gaps... keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: ralph beijers To: giluz ; Eric Strang ; Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation > > > Robert asked: > > > ...what has been in heavy rotation in fellow Ideal Copyists homes/cars ? > > In heavy rotation on bike/at work/at home: > 1. The sound "Jeopardy". (Renascent records) I had almost forgotten those > fierce guitar parts...the extra live tracks are as intense and powerful as > anything I heard since "Vital" by Van der Graaf or Joy division's "Still". > Nicely packaged in a cardboard sleeve by people who actually love music...it > makes you wonder what those guys at Warner Bros were planning to do with the > original tapes. Grow beards on it? > 2. Rachel's "Music for Egon Schiele" > 3. Olla vogala "Guanomo" > 4. Mercury rev "Deserter's songs" > 5. The notwist "Neon golden" > > Ralph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:26:31 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] WIRE'S APRIL OUTINGS McCluskey are responsible for what is probably my fave single of the year so far (there's not a lot of opposition admittedly). it's produced by steve albini and i think i desc. it a couple of weeks ago as a grunge thing with a bit of gang of 4 slashy guitar thrown in...the other tracks aren't great but the a-side ("my love is bigger than your love") is definitely worth a listen (it's easily available in the UK - I got mine from HMV or Virgin) Keith p.s. for those people interested in Hood, there's an article/discography in the latest record collector (r.e.m. on the cover) - ----- Original Message ----- From: ian.s. jackson To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] WIRE'S APRIL OUTINGS > >april in Bristol with McClusky. Is he one of the OMD-members or a new > >artist? > > i am led to believe that they are 'post-rock', a la Mogwai/Labradford... > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 13:26:42 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] WIRE'S APRIL OUTINGS In a message dated 4/1/02 12:22:26 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << McCluskey are responsible for what is probably my fave single of the year so far (there's not a lot of opposition admittedly). it's produced by steve albini and i think i desc. it a couple of weeks ago as a grunge thing with a bit of gang of 4 slashy guitar thrown in...the other tracks aren't great but the a-side ("my love is bigger than your love") is definitely worth a listen (it's easily available in the UK - I got mine from HMV or Virgin) Keith p.s. for those people interested in Hood, there's an article/discography in the latest record collector (r.e.m. on the cover) >> speaking of Gang of Four...Does anyone have an opinion on the Andy Gill produced album by the Balancing Act?...I saw this cd at a local used store for $4.99 and wondered if it was worth my time... Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:19:05 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! Giluz wins the i-spy wire prize while no one else was watching! >Pinkflag will soon proudly unveil he first wholly new wire release for over >10 years. This landmark release marks the 1st shot in the 3Read and Burn2 >series of sixpacks Yeah! Trust Wire to announce a new record but still keep us guessing what the rest of the 'Read & Burn' series will consist of. Top geezers! Will it be more new tracks? Maybe the Albini Sessions, maybe more of Colin's Mac-attacks on the live material? Doubtless Gotobed & Co. don't know yet either. The words 'forthcoming video' jump out too. Wonder what that means? Anway wake up everyone! As Neil Tennant used to write in Smash Hits in the 80s...They're back...back...*back*!!!! ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 01:12:54 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] heavy rotation this site never ceases to amaze me... when i first joined i obviously thought it'd be pretty much wire based (!) and though it was no big surprise to see the likes of magazine getting a big look in, the stuff featured on 'heavy rotation' alone shows what a bloody diverse lot of music we all like. a pat on the back for us he says smugly... i've been away for a week and didn't have much time to listen to music really but i made sure i heard these three tracks more than once... the hollies - i can't let go low - sunflower main - rail (thanks ian) keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:45:48 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Looking for A Certain Ratio? List faves ACR have a fine new double CD-set out on Soul-Jazz called 'Early' (named after greasy 80s style-pundit Peter York's comment upon being shown a photo of the band by Tony Wilson "They look early......", "early what?", "They just look Early!".) Photos of a 'Early' Ratio adorn the chunky sleeve booklet. Military shirts, khaki shorts, whistles and trumpets. Looks kinda cool now. There is also one snap of Jez Kerr, with telltale signs of Tan-tasic running down his armpit. What was all that about? Anyway the music. If you don't have any ACR records, this is definitely the one to get. There are several tracks on here that no Wire fan should be without. ACR were big Wire fans themselves. Martin Moscrop says in the sleeve notes "..we were listening to stuff like Eno and Wire at the same time as Parliament". The Wire influence is felt most strongly on the earliest stuff. Their first two-chord alt-funk masterpiece, All Night Party (here in its drumless 7" version and Peel Session version with drums) has enough tension and drama to fit in on Wires Chairs Missing. 'Flight', 'Waterline', 'Choir' etc. all evoke the unsettling atmosphere of early Wire. When Wilson and New Order's late, great manager Rob Gretton discovered ACR they thought they'd found the new Velvet Underground. Listening to 'All Night Party' its clear why. Wison didn't 'get' the later ACR stuff ("They're playing f**king Jazz!") but Gretton did. Captured here are the moments where they got it just right, by combining dark, edgy Joy Division/Wire noise with their shared (smokers) passion for all things Funkadelic. There are even a couple of tracks from the much maligned 'Id Like to See you Again'. I'd still argue this among their best work despite what some of you think. Factory Funk...in more ways than one. This compilation stops in 1985 so you are spared some of ACRs less than imaginative moments from their later career. This is all prime stuff. Many tracks feature Martin Hannett at the the controls, adding Joy Divisionesque texture and space to the scratchy, European funk-punk that ACR did so well in those days. And someone in the re-mastering stages has added a pleasing kick to the bass to apply a revisionist extra 'woomph' to their sound. Fair play! As with any compilation there will be some glaring ommisons. Nothing from their superb debut 'To Each...', and where the heck is the thunderous electro-funk monster that was 'Mickey Way'? Why choose the sloppy LP version of 'Knife Slits Water' with Martha Tilson's irritating whining vocals over the taut 7" version? And why the inferior version of ACRs signature tune 'Si Firmo O Grido' (taken from a Touch compilation) over any of the infinitely more exciting live versions that must exist in the vaults? Maybe Soul Jazz have some more ACR re-releases up their sleeve.Lets Hope so. Gripes aside, this is still a perfect introduction to a fascinating band, and a treat for fans too. ________________________________________ Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire!!!!!!! Hot Damn!! Can't wait to see what the WIRE folks come up with!! > The words 'forthcoming video' jump out too. Wonder > what that means? That also raises an interesting question....where do people see videos anymore?? Also, will the album be non-traumatically available in the US? Big moment today! The marquee at the local venue has the Tony Levin Band on it!! 3R Productions launches!! Away we go! ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://3rproductions.com Yahoo! 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