From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #91 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, March 30 2002 Volume 05 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] cd burner question [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question [Miles Goosens ] Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Fwd: [Shriek_Digicon] Slender Fungus/O.T [Ari Britt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:19:34 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] cd burner question Last night when i was fooling around with my new cd burner i couldn't get it make the proper track increments from vinyl recordings....i made the proper settings and it was supposed to make the proper track increments after 2.7 seconds of silence in between vinyl tracks but it didn't...it just made one long track...i wasted a cd-r...oh well i guess i should have purchased a rewriteable cd to practice on...My question is this: Is it always better to make the track increments yourself because the surface noise in between tracks might fool the cd burner....can any of you audiophile ideal copyists help me out here?...I am definitely not technically inclined!...thanks, Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:42:47 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question At 10:19 AM 3/29/2002 -0500, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: >Last night when i was fooling around with my new cd burner i couldn't get it >make the proper track increments from vinyl recordings....i made the proper >settings and it was supposed to make the proper track increments after 2.7 >seconds of silence in between vinyl tracks but it didn't...it just made one >long track...i wasted a cd-r...oh well i guess i should have purchased a >rewriteable cd to practice on...My question is this: Is it always better to >make the track increments yourself because the surface noise in between >tracks might fool the cd burner....can any of you audiophile ideal copyists >help me out here?...I am definitely not technically inclined!...thanks, When working from vinyl or tape, I always record one long .wav file to the computer, then manually insert the track breaks. I think the Roxio programs allow for you to do this. Personally, I use CoolEdit to work with the .wav files, and CDRWin to burn the CDs... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:53:11 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question In a message dated 3/29/02 9:37:41 AM Central Standard Time, wireadmin@mindspring.com writes: << When working from vinyl or tape, I always record one long .wav file to the computer, then manually insert the track breaks. I think the Roxio programs allow for you to do this. Personally, I use CoolEdit to work with the .wav files, and CDRWin to burn the CDs... later, Miles >> actually...i was talking about a stand alone cd burner...not a cd burner on a computer...i don't know the first thing about mp3's and wav files etc. etc... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:00:16 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question At 10:53 AM 3/29/2002 -0500, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: >actually...i was talking about a stand alone cd burner...not a cd burner on a >computer...i don't know the first thing about mp3's and wav files etc. etc... And vice-versa on this side. Good luck! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:51:30 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gaping blue vagina's Bart wrote : >Ian, nice to see you're promoting Wire on the Guided by Voices list, but >what was all that about "gaping blue vagina's"? ;-) well with all these GBV fans saying how good/bad/indifferent Document & Eyewitness was, i could hardly fail to point them in a certain direction could i...?!! the 'gaping blue vagina' (G.B.V...) thing was from a post from where someone had attached a piece from a chat room where you insert the word vagina into a band/artist name... fun, but only for a short while, just like it is with chat rooms really... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:33:33 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question I use a Pioneer PDR-509 as part of my hifi. With the Poneer burner you have to add the track breaks manually "live" as you make the recording if your source is analogue (vinyl/tape). If you're copying a CD you can use a direct connection and it will make an exact clone with all the breaks in place. What make of burner do you have? Mark << >actually...i was talking about a stand alone cd burner...not a cd burner on a >computer...i don't know the first thing about mp3's and wav files etc. etc... >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:02:46 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question In a message dated 3/29/02 10:38:29 AM Central Standard Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << I use a Pioneer PDR-509 as part of my hifi. With the Poneer burner you have to add the track breaks manually "live" as you make the recording if your source is analogue (vinyl/tape). If you're copying a CD you can use a direct connection and it will make an exact clone with all the breaks in place. What make of burner do you have? Mark >> i have a Phillips but i forget what the model number is..(i am at work)..the instruction manual says that there is a setting that will set the track increments when the burner detects 2.7 seconds of silence...it didn't work..i guess i will just do it manually..safer that way... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:30:27 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question Definitely safer! Mark << i have a Phillips but i forget what the model number is..(i am at work)..the instruction manual says that there is a setting that will set the track increments when the burner detects 2.7 seconds of silence...it didn't work..i guess i will just do it manually..safer that way... >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:34:17 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: [idealcopy] Certain General It's because I have the highest regard for the standards and taste of the members of this group that I wish to share with you all the following. Some of you may recall that I've started a label - SourMash USA, located on the web at www.sourmashusa.com and have released a few CDs this year, most notably being An Introduction to War by long running NYC cult favorites, Certain General. I hope you'll take the time to read the following review from last week's Brainwashed posting. This is music that fans of Wire, Gang of Four, Television, Echo &, the Birthday Party, Dream Syndicate, Mission of Burma, Contortions, et al. should be aware of. Thanks, Steve. G Certain General, "An Introduction To War" Certain General were a living contradiction of a band. They were both ahead of their time and perfect for the time they were a band. They had punk rock energy for a post-punk alternative sound. And, as this collection shows, they were at the top of their game even when it seemed like it was all falling apart. "An Introduction To War," available at the Sourmash Records USA website, is a 2CD deluxe set featuring completely unreleased Certain General material. The first CD, "Dead Rabbit Gang," would have been the band's second album, culled from recording sessions that took place upon their return from a successful UK tour. This material was prevented from release by internal band turmoil, as the liner notes state, but you couldn't tell by listening to it. All fourteen tracks pulse and crack with raw energy: the mark of a band at their absolute peak. There's so much to hear in these tracks to prove what an affect Certain General had on the musical landscape of the time. You hear elements in these tracks that definitely reveal the Generals' influences, such as the Velvet Underground-esque melodies and basslines, but there's so much more in what influence the Generals had on bands of that timeframe. It's in the vocal delivery tried by just about every 80s band, and the power in the drums, and the wailing guitar. These bands may not be trying to rip off Certain General, per se, but after hearing this collection in comparison to other bands, it's hard to deny that they at least heard the music and appreciated it. It would have been a fine proper album at the time, and now it's a timeless classic heard finally. The second disc, "Savage Young Generals," captures the band live on tape at several shows at CBGB and City Gardens over a 13 month period. If the raw energy present on the studio material doesn't grab you, the live album will definitely blow you away. The showmanship on display for these recordings is the kind most bands would die to have. Sixteen of these songs have never been released in any format, and it's good to hear them alongside the odd cover and the traditional but higher energy interpretations of the songs off their releases. 77 minutes of pure sonic delight. Taken together, these two discs represent a fine document of a, as their website puts it, "criminally overlooked" band. Try out the sound samples if you don't believe the hype, but anyone would be impressed by what they'd find here. - Rob Devlin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question Mark is right,i have both a pioneer stand alone,and a pc burner,on the stand alone you have to put the track numbers there yourself,an easy enough task.....Ari--- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > From: MarkBursa@aol.com > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:33:33 EST > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] cd burner question > To: wireadmin@mindspring.com, idealcopy@smoe.org > > I use a Pioneer PDR-509 as part of my hifi. With the > Poneer burner you have > to add the track breaks manually "live" as you make > the recording if your > source is analogue (vinyl/tape). If you're copying a > CD you can use a direct > connection and it will make an exact clone with all > the breaks in place. What > make of burner do you have? > > Mark > > << >actually...i was talking about a stand alone cd > burner...not a cd burner > on a > >computer...i don't know the first thing about > mp3's and wav files etc. > etc... >> ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Shriek_Digicon] Slender Fungus/O.T - --- Voodoo Digital Design wrote: > To: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com > From: "Voodoo Digital Design" > > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:54:49 -0800 > Subject: [Shriek_Digicon] Slender Fungus > Reply-to: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com > > Fellow listmembers, I've been kind of lurking and in > silent mode on the > list lately due to a variey of reasons. One of which > brings me here > today. It's a new side project of mine seperate from > the stuff I do with > The Circus of the Scars ( > http://www.circusofthescars.net) and the > project name is Slender Fungus. I know how much > everyone here likes > diverse musicks, so I figured I would share it with > you all. As well, > Shriekback is a huge musickal influence on me and I > think in a way that > you can hear that somewhat in the musick that I > make. . . one of the > things that drew me to the shriek vibe was their > marvelous sense of > rhythym and the great beats that they wove together, > almost like rock > and roll voodoo beats or something. . . anyways, on > many tracks I have > tried to do the same with the polyriddims. As well, > I would be > interested in anyone's constructive criticism of > what they hear, and am > in search of people who sing more with emotion than > with training so if > that's you let's talk. Thanks for the off-topic > allowance and your time, > support and patronage. > > Sincerely, > > James P. Bergman > > SLENDER FUNGUS - SLENDER FUNGUS - SLENDER FUNGUS > - SLENDER FUNGUS > It's been desribed as Black Light Audio Alchemy. > Dark, polyrhythmic, > beat-oriented, electronic, experimental musick with > a shadowy and > cavernous feel. Check out some of the new songs > available for free > in mp3 formats at the following location. > > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/383/slender_fungus.html > > > > > > > > > ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:30:13 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Shriek_Digicon] Slender Fungus/O.T In a message dated 3/29/02 4:27:09 PM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Fellow listmembers, I've been kind of lurking and in > silent mode on the > list lately due to a variey of reasons. One of which > brings me here > today. It's a new side project of mine seperate from > the stuff I do with > The Circus of the Scars ( > http://www.circusofthescars.net) and the > project name is Slender Fungus. >> WOW what a coincidence! I was just listening to Slender Fungus by Tones on Tail not more than 20 minutes ago...!!!! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: [idealcopy] Checking in with Bart! Bart- So how is the Wire replacement project going? Most of my sources for Wire-related material dried up. oddly enough. Are you still looking for any specific titles? Do tell... NR: Mark Harris - Bang the Drum Slowly NP: King Crimson - Level Five Skinny Puppy - Rabies Sisters of Mercy - Floodland Tony Levin Band - Pieces of the Sun Wire - IBTABA ND: Anchor Brewing Co - Liberty Ale! ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://3rproductions.com Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #91 ******************************