From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #88 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, March 27 2002 Volume 05 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Shoegazing ["Stephen Graziano" ] RE: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation ["Andrew Lumbard" ] Re: [idealcopy] questions , questions.......... ["ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Shoegazing Does that make Lush - - Freddie and the Dreamers? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Shoegazing > Robert! Inverted commas or not, I must say that to call MBV 'Shoegazing' is > like calling the Beatles 'Merseybeat'. > > Then again, that makes Ride 'Gerry and The Pacemakers' ....so maybe its not > such a bad idea. Chapterhouse would be The Swinging Blue Jeans! > > Ride had four good songs. Lush maybe two. > > Slowdive got loads more bad press than any of this lot but, as Robert > rightly points out, Souvlaki wasn't half bad...in fact its a monster > record..and will no doubt start changing hands for #50 on Ebay in a few > years time before someone cottons on and re-releases it. Brian Eno seems to > have forgotten he worked on a couple of tunes if you read his book. > > Two more really good records that may be branded as 'Shoegazing' are > 'Everythings Alright Forever' by Boo Radleys and 'In Ribbons' by Pale Saints. > Both bands having a good crack at that MBV thing of harnessing noise and > feedback to make melody with some success. Those two bands have a lot in > common. I once saw them both on the same bill, they played brilliant sets > and I bought their records. But both had only two good albums in them (In > Ribbons by Pale Saints is superb and Giant Steps by The Boo Radleys is a > forgotten classic and was NME record of the year once if i'm not > mistaken....) ....and I witnessed both play utterly dire gigs about four > years later....Pale Saints after Ian Masters had left to explore his own > backside and Boo Radleys after they had finally drunk all their talent away > and pissed it down the Mersey....and there we are full circle back at the > Cavern! > > Say Ooh-Ahh Martin Carr...Say Ooh-Ahh Martin Carr! > > > > At 04:30 21/03/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >MY favorite "shoegazing" albums: > > > >My Bloody Valentine - Loveless > >Ride - Nowhere > >Slowdive - Souvlaki > >Chapterhouse - Whirlpool > >Lush - Spooky > > ________________________________________ > Two Fat Persons....Click Click Click > http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:57:54 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation >> > > Robert asked: >> > > ...what has been in heavy rotation in fellow Ideal Copyists >> homes/cars ? Ralph said >> 5. The notwist "Neon golden" I said <> Two IC'ers giving the same recommendation, must be something in it Robert? AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:51:11 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation > > Robert asked: > > ...what has been in heavy rotation in fellow Ideal Copyists homes/cars ? Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance (surprise, surprise...) / Bad Timing XTC - CD's 1 & 2 of new boxed set Subway Sect - 1976-1980 Low - The Curtain Hits The Cast Wire - I.A.I.T.B. (content, shock-horror...) White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl 7" ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:01:14 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Wire - The Third Day Help! I need a copy of the Third Day cd !! It's out of print and i cannot find mine anywhere! I think it's been nicked! Can any of you Ideal Copyists lend me hand and burn one for me??? Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:02:25 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Heavy Rotation In a message dated 3/26/02 5:56:26 PM Central Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance (surprise, surprise...) alright Ian....i guess i am going to have to give in and go buy the used copy at my local store! Several Ideal Copyists can't be wrong as the saying goes! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:04:53 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire - The Third Day >Help! I need a copy of the Third Day cd !! It's out of print and i cannot >find mine anywhere! I think it's been nicked! Can any of you Ideal Copyists >lend me hand and burn one for me??? http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=1068 will take care of you. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:10:33 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] questions , questions.......... i wrote : > > my mate's mum is related to Annie Lennox, cousin or something... > > > > i'll get me coat... > > > > ian.s.j. > > > >really, that is pretty cool actually!...how have you been Ian??? > Robert answered. i'm fine, thank you Robert. just busy... believe this or not, but another mate is a relative of McCartney's...!! (yeah, Alf McCartney... ;) ) ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:17:10 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire - The Third Day In a message dated 3/26/02 6:05:37 PM Central Standard Time, paulp@wrq.com writes: > http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=1068 > > will take care of you. (^_^) > > Cheers, > Paul > YIKES! That'll be almost $20.00 for me! i didn't realizes it was that expensive..mine was originally a gift and i had never looked into it....sigh... Robert ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #88 ******************************