From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #61 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, February 28 2002 Volume 05 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Embarrassing CD [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] embarrassing cd's & gosh, an 'on-topic' bit [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is [RLynn9@aol.c] [idealcopy] on-t-acr [Alistair Tear ] [idealcopy] New Eden Project [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs [Neil Soiseth ] Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is [RLynn9@aol.c] [idealcopy] Fwd: RE: [Shriek_Digicon] O'T [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT: Re: [faclist] ACR gig!! [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs/Pill Collins [Ari Britt ] OT Re: [idealcopy] v. prunes in people magazine [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 05:09:27 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Embarrassing CD In a message dated 2/26/02 8:39:01 PM Central Standard Time, Robert.Cambra@harpercollins.com writes: > Thinking about what my most embarrassing cd would be I was going through the > oldie moldies, but no--my most embarrassing cd is something I got--by > special order--just last year: ZERO LANDMINE, by Eno, David Sylvian and a > lot of others whose work I at least usually like. My only solace is that > I've contributed to a worthy cause, but, oh, what a wet, simpering > we-are-the-world touchy-feely disk; and it goes on and on with version > after > version of the same soggy song. This is what completism will get ya. I felt > embarrassed listening to it at home by my self. > > Robert > > phew! well, i'm certainly glad i stopped being a David Sylvian completist by then....i also missed the Readymade-Bold track that he contributed vocals to....oh well... Robert Lynn (the other Robert) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:18:33 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] embarrassing cd's & gosh, an 'on-topic' bit Steve Loubert wrote>> >>and it would be difficult to find even aWire song that every single member thought was great. I think there are plenty of wiresongs that we all agree are great. Does anyone not like pink flag, mercy, map ref, our swimmer, kidney bingos, boiling boy etc etc etc? I recently joined the library near this office with the aim of burning their cd's. Not a great music selection but Mazzy Star's 'so tonight that I might see' has been getting a lot of play on my machine...love it! I got Can 'Sacrilege' the 2xcd remix thang...without knowing there is a Bruce Gilbert remix on there (tv spot)...and it does sound way more interesting and innovative than 99% of the rest. Also each artist gets to say a piece about what 'Can' means to them in the booklet...and the 2 most intiguing are BCG who (ideal) copies the dictionary entry for the word 'Can' and Brian Eno who fesses up that he couldn't improve on the original!. I 'can' burn this for a swap or something should anyone want it. later A ps. anyone fancy meeting up in the 'Spitz' bar for a pint b4 the 93ft east thingy? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:31:12 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] don't nick my pink ballet shoes.../huh >That's nothing buddy,over here in the u.s.of a,there >ARE people that have never heard of frank zapa or >miles davis,i think they're all from an alien planet!Ari I met a lot of born Americans who know who Iggy Pop is but are not aware of any Stooges except for the Three Stooges. Syarzhuk _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:48:21 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] embarrassing cd's & gosh, an 'on-topic' bit so where or what is this "spitz" bar then? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:50:54 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs >Which brings me to the question: What one CD should >one be most embarrassed to admit to owning on this >list? Is there anything that is so universally >reviled as to subject its owner to ridicule from >everyone on the list? Two words for you: Phil Collins. Syarzhuk _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:27:08 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] ot-acr A certain ratio who got a lot of coverage here recently are appearing at Electrwerkz Islington London on 29th March For this and the latest on '24 hr party people' visit this factory fan's site (friend of a friend) http://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/Factory/ later A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:27:02 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is In a message dated 2/23/02 4:24:04 PM Central Standard Time, dotdash40@earthlink.net writes: << By far it's Elton John's "goodbye yellow brick road", which brings back fond teen memories of nervous fumbling with bra straps and getting a hand job in church. Good times...good times. I still love that record. Mike E. >> Did you fight in the "Punk Wars" too?...because if that isn't punk, i don't know what is... RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:33:08 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] on-t-acr Further to the previous - was just looking at the site myself and found in the Durutti Column section a poster for the Labradford 2nd festival of Drifting featuring among others our very own..... BCGilbert better do some work later A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:54:33 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: UK gig promoters wanted Greetings Listers Apologies for using the list to further my own interests but I was wondering if there's anybody on the list who puts on gigs, or knows a (wo)man who does? I've taken on this local band, Bocca, who have just about finished recording their debut album, due to be released on a local label, Captive. If anyone can help out please mail me off list. If you want to hear Bocca then by all means please do have a listen to the six tracks available here: http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/audio.htm (I'd recommend 'Street Theatre' as a starting point if you're a bit rushed.) Cheers John _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:29:52 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs > What one CD should one be most embarrassed > to admit to owning on this list? Is there anything that is so universally > reviled as to subject its owner to ridicule from everyone on the list? Or > is there at least one person who likes everything? The "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack? I mean, if you actually bought it on CD, at least five years after the whole disco scene crashed, well... that's pretty pathetic, right? Actually, I don't think you can single out particular CD's; you'd have to list artists whose entire catalogues are universally bad, because nobody on this list would ever make the effort to go through those catalogues just to decide which complete albums are the "worst." Personally, I'd say there's about 5-6 artists who'd fall into that category (and I wouldn't include Phil Collins, but mostly just for personal reasons). In no particular order: - - Celine Dion - - Jimmy Buffett - - David Hasselhoff - - Anyone named "Osmond" - - Kenny G Of course, I'd expect such a list to be controversial more in terms of who's *excluded* rather than who's included... For example, I hate Mariah Carey, but you have to admit that she has an exceptional vocal range. I also really despise Kiss, but they've always tried very hard to please their live audiences, and you have to respect the effort, even if it *is* just pandering. And then of course there's Barry Manilow, who probably belongs up there, but the fact is I just can't get some of those cheap hooks out of my head some days - and you have to give him credit for managing to record them without being mercilessly sued by all the people he stole them from! (Unlike Oasis, for example.) And finally, there's the whole question of mass-consumption metal bands in general - Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue, etc., maybe even going back to awful 70's (i.e., pre-CD-era) acts like Angel, Journey, and REO Speedwagon. Sure, they're all appalling, but I still can't put them in the same category as the aforementioned for reasons that are difficult to explain. (Well, okay, they *paid* me not to...) But if I had to come up with a sixth, I guess it would be either Loverboy or Bryan Adams. As for my own most embarrassing CD, as far as the Wire list is concerned that would probably be Echo & the Bunnymen's "Reverberation" album. John "havin' a slow day" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:17:29 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] New Eden Project As Kevin hasn't announced it himself, I'll report that he and Sid Smith (author of the new book on King Crimson) are collaborating on a book on Brian Eno. I'm not giving away any secret here, by the way; the news is on both the Crimson (DGM) and Eno (Enoweb) sites. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs Two words for you: Phil Collins. Syarzhuk ............... Right On! funny thing is when he was drummer for 'Brand X' I considered he had talent.Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is Did you fight in the "Punk Wars" too?...because if that isn't punk, i don't know what is... RL Robert! how COULD you consider that to be Punk?Ari - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Click a to send an instant message to an online friend = Online, = Offline ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:24:21 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs In a message dated 2/27/02 1:35:21 PM Central Standard Time, jh3@winco.net writes: << David Hasselhoff >> as long as Germany exists...David Hasselhoff will have a job, be famous, loved, and rich....a strange world we live in... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:30:05 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs In a message dated 2/27/02 1:35:21 PM Central Standard Time, jh3@winco.net writes: << And finally, there's the whole question of mass-consumption metal bands in general - Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue, etc., maybe even going back to awful 70's (i.e., pre-CD-era) acts like Angel, Journey, and REO Speedwagon. Sure, they're all appalling, but I still can't put them in the same category as the aforementioned for reasons that are difficult to explain. (Well, okay, they *paid* me not to...) >> of course,. i must say that the best metal albums of all time are ALL the Ozzy Osbourne era Black Sabbath albums...the first 4 Ozzy solo albums...the first three RATT albums...Judas Priest's British Steel, Screaming For Vengeance and Stained Class...ANY RUSH album (if you can call them "metal") especially from A Farewell to Kings up to Power Windows...the first 5 or 6 Van Halen albums.......YES, I OWN ALL OF THESE....I am not embarassed in the least! nothing wrong with rocking out with the shades drawn once in awhile....hahhahahaha Robert "Flying V" Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:35:04 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs In a message dated 2/27/02 3:22:12 PM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Two words for you: Phil Collins. Syarzhuk ............... Right On! funny thing is when he was drummer for 'Brand X' I considered he had talent.Ari >> actually i once sampled that ridiculous bassline from "Sussudio" and used for an equally ridiculous techno track...... Robert Take Me Home Cause I Don't Remember Lynn p.s. Home By The Sea IS a cool song though ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs Robert, Talking of metal,what about Scraping Feotus off the Wheel's 'Nail",it's the ONLY 'metal, I own.Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:40:03 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs In a message dated 2/27/02 3:36:04 PM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Robert, Talking of metal,what about Scraping Feotus off the Wheel's 'Nail",it's the ONLY 'metal, I own.Ari >> actually, speaking of Foetus, i love the stuff Thirwell did with Marc Almond called SLUT.....and by the way, i am sending out that Boards of Canada for you tommorrow Ari.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:37:57 -0600 From: Neil Soiseth Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs on 27.2.02 1:29 PM, JH3 at jh3@winco.net wrote: > The "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack? I mean, if you actually > bought it on CD, at least five years after the whole disco scene > crashed, well... that's pretty pathetic, right? Tho I don't own it--my sister did have the 8 track back in the day--Staying Alive is genius (as an instrumental, that is). > - Celine Dion > - Jimmy Buffett > - David Hasselhoff > - Anyone named "Osmond" > - Kenny G No argument here. Add Michael Bolton to the list. > And finally, there's the whole question of mass-consumption > metal bands in general - Poison I have a friend with mostly decent musical taste, tho he has an affection for, among others, Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, Bee Gee's, The Captain and Tenille, and, yes, even Poison. He has declared that he's the only person who paid full price for the Poison Best of cd. And yet he regards Elvis Costello as his favorite artist. Strange birds of a feather > Journey, and REO Speedwagon. Sure, they're all appalling, but > I still can't put them in the same category as the aforementioned > for reasons that are difficult to explain. (Well, okay, they *paid* > me not to...) I'd never buy anything by them, but when I was 12 or 13 I did, and as such some of those songs still, um, resonate. > But if I had to come up with a sixth, I guess it would be either > Loverboy or Bryan Adams. But, as I understand it, Paul Dean of Loverboy played in X-Ray Spex, so there is a certain respectability (once or twice removed) there. Great pleasure in reading folk's confessions. Some scary stuff resting in people's collections, but thankfully no one can agree on what's what. Later all, Neil Every revolutionary ends up either by becoming an oppressor or a heretic. -- Albert Camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:37:29 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The most embarassing cd in my collection is In a message dated 2/27/02 3:24:31 PM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << Did you fight in the "Punk Wars" too?...because if that isn't punk, i don't know what is... RL Robert! how COULD you consider that to be Punk?Ari >> AWWWW C'MON!!!!! a handjob in Church!!!!! i doesn't get ANY more f**kin' rebellious and anarchic than that!!! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:50:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: RE: [Shriek_Digicon] O'T > Thought those of you on the wire site might want to read this from Barry Andrews(Shriekback) any info would be appreciated from anyone over in Britain.Ari > Ari, here ya go. It's also permanently at the > Digicon homepage on Yahoo! > > Workinprog Bulletin 1 > > > > To those it may concern: > > > > Since it's traditional to keep one's backers up to > speed in situations like > this I thought I would let you people who have > contributed time money and > the not-so-tangibles to this new Shriekback record > know the present state of > play. > > No birth is painless (or so they tell me) and this > album -like most of the > others come to think of it- has been medium > stressful so far-. nevertheless, > after some hairy moments (during which the > possibility of dumping the whole > thing was not wholly absent) I now feel like I've > got something to talk > about other than latent timing, lost files and > inexplicable digital > distortion. > > Like someone who's been walking up a steep hill for > some time, I just > turned around the other day and saw the view. We now > have 14 tunes- that's > right 14! (Although naturally all the usual Rights > of Dumpage apply) with > recognisable shapes, smells and habits and I thought > people might find it of > interest for me to briefly describe them; > > I think we are looking at Shriekbacks darkest ever > album by the way. > > > > Golden Age: an archetypal Shriek drummachine and > dubstyle bass groove. Bruce > Mcrae on Golden Guitar. > > It's got the Middle East in it somewhere not > obvious. A bitter-sweet lyric > because obviously it's not really a Golden Age > -c'mon get real for fucks > sake. > > > > Meat: hairy psychedelia in the Health & Knowledge > mode -Lu on electric Saz . > Another sustained medtation on the Shortcomings of > Everything > > > > More Heat than Light no-nonsense (well ok- some > nonsense) heads-down > Velvettsy two chord ROCK. Some may remember a ropey > version of this from > the Belgian gig last year. This is what it's > actually meant to sound like. > Illuminated by the spectral glow of 11th Sept (the > day before my birthday > -talk about pre-emptive). The groove a co-write by > the unlikely team of me > Marsh and Finn (my lad) who guests on BVs . The > mighty Lu on the strangest > bass guitar you ever did see. > > > > My New Religion: unabashed FONK - and jolly Baad > too. Vocals somewhat > remeniscent of a world-weary Dr Seuss giving it > special at the Church of the > Holy Fuzzbox. > > > > Month of Sand -a Marsh co-write and although the > words are mine it does > sound like I osmosed the Marshness somehow. More > miserablist subject matter > belied by the 'kitchens of the future' cheerful > music. A 'Month of Sand ' > being dead gritty and 'orrible of course. > > > > Feverish Hands: reeks of late bars and languid > women, smoking, shagging and > prowling through the Modern Urban Fabric. One of the > first I wrote (October > 2000) and a personal favourite. > > > > Sunday Night at Home: writing on my own has produced > some curious things > which I would never have dared try in company..This > is one of them. A funny > little Victorian wind-up toy meets Faded Flowers in > a glass of Absinthe. > Jeez -whatever was I thinking? > > > > Seething: the first tune we did back in May 00 when > we all met up again for > the first time in 15 years .Ian Caple -naturally- > recording it. The song > though was written by Mart and I back in the Sacred > City period and > performed with the accoustic band (there's a -dodgy- > version on > 'Demonsration). This is proper 4 piece Shriek Funk > though and I think you > can hear it was very nice to be doing it again. > > > > Plangent Realm a nice little instrumental which > conjours a whole bunch of > still, stony images in my head. Bit of a Philip > Glass Loop going on. Calms > you right down. > > > > Going Equipped: mostly recorded in the studio in > Belgium with the Class of > 85. A diseased tango. Very pleased with the > words-example : 'We got the > poisons we got the towels we got the head-sets - We > got the flowers and the > owls'. Evocative or what? > > Look out for the musical saw solo. > > > > Hooligan Illumination: an examination of those times > when the Universe makes > it's point rather brutally. Weird groove -has been > compared to a clog-dance. > Claustrophobic and strange and sort of Minimalist. > Chamber Music for people > who can't get out of the Chamber. > > > > Gods' Gardenias: luscious tune -very Barry and Mart > circa BNM. Deep bass and > gangs of percussion and keys. Disgracefully gorgeous > melody (I think). All > about You Girls.. mmmm > > > > The Glass Fish: gotta have a fish tune eh? Spooky, > Large and shimmering. > > > > Baby Lions written back in 93 by Mart and myself > (Terribly Swollen time) I > very much enjoyed it and it was a shame it never > came out. In the meantime > we lost the DAT so I had to start again. Inspired by > an event at Regents > Park zoo when a man who was obsessed with lions got > into their enclosure and > -predictably- got mauled to death. This song has a > Gilbert and Sullivan > style 'Chorus' question and answer thing which I've > never done anywhere > else. It's hilarious. > > > > Feel the Need: it's that cover-song again. Recorded > for Go Bang and sounded > dreadful even with Robbie Shakespeare on it -mainly > because the producer > didn't have a clue what we were trying to do. > > So here it comes again -the DIY version-the > original by the Detroit > Emeralds and very lovely too -this however has been > left for weeks in a vat > of Solution of Anti-Funk. And see how attractively > distressed it is. What > 'needs' can you feel now? > > > > There are also a bunch of outsiders -often known to > come up and surprise > you- which include: > > Queens Beast , The Classifieds, Take me to the > Tranquil Vermin, Rem > Koolhaas Stole my Shovel .... > > > > There it is for those whoare interested. I'm > starting to feel tentative > confidence. I reckon we have about another couple of > months work to get it > ready to mix. Then we shall see. Anyone got a nice > big studio in the UK? Or > a user-friendly Record Company? > > Thanks again to all you Contributors. You Rule. > > Best Wishes > > Barry Andrews > > West London > > feb 20002 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ari Britt [mailto:luvjazzz@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:37 PM > To: Shriek_Digicon@yahoogroups.com; > antiM93@hotmail.com > Subject: [Shriek_Digicon] (unknown) > > > Does anyone still have the letter Tracy sent us from > Barry?I deleted mine by mistake.Ari > > ===== > everything in moderation is good for you,including > excess. > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every > occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > If we stand together long enough and in the right > place, perhaps the > accustomed fog will lift and we will glimpse whole > new planets and, further > off, the unfamiliar stars.... > ~~'Shriek Without End'~~ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:03:59 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs not a CD but... somewhere, i *think* i have a vinyl copy of Rick Wakeman's 'Six Wives of Henry VIII'...i'll take the prize-money now, shall i? ian.s.j. (np - Jim O'Rourke - 'Bad Timing') SPIKE MILLIGAN R.I.P. (put him in the curry...) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:35:25 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs << From discussions here in the past, it looks like there is no artist, save Wire, that is liked by everyone, >> Joy Division? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:52:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: Fw: DO YOU OWN A GOLDFISH?/O.T > Subject: Fw: DO YOU OWN A GOLDFISH? > > > DO YOU OWN A GOLDFISH? > > > > Two builders (Chris and James) are seated either > side of a table in a rough pub when a well-dressed > man enters, orders a beer and sits on a stool at the > bar. The two builders start to speculate about the > occupation of the suit... > > > > Chris: - I reckon he's an accountant. > > James: - No way - he's a stockbroker. > > Chris: - He ain't no stockbroker ! A stockbroker > wouldn't come in here! > > > > The argument repeats itself for some time until > the volume of beer gets the better of Chris and he > makes for the toilet. > > > > On entering the toilet he sees that the suit is > standing at a urinal. > > > > Curiosity and the several beers get the better of > the builder... > > > > Chris: - "Scuse me.... no offense meant, but me > and me mate were wondering what you do for a > living?" > > > > Suit: - No offence taken ! I'm a Logical Scientist > by profession ! > > Chris: - Oh ! What's that then ? > > Suit: - I'll try to explain by example ...Do you > have a goldfish at home? > > Chris: - Er ... mmm ... well yeah, I do as it > happens! > > Suit: - Well, it's logical to follow that you keep > it in a bowl or in a pond. Which is it? > > Chris: - It's in a pond! > > Suit: - Well then it's reasonable to suppose that > you have a large garden then? > > Chris: - As it happens, yes I have got a big > garden! > > Suit: - Well then it's logical to assume that in > this town if you have a large garden then you have a > large house? > > Chris: - As it happens I've got a five bedroom > house... built it myself! > > Suit: - Well given that you've built a five > bedroom house it is logical to assume that you > haven't built it just for yourself and that you are > quite probably married? > > Chris: - Yes I am married, I live with my wife and > three children. > > Suit: - Well then it is logical to assume that you > are sexually active with your wife on a regular > basis? > > Chris: - Yep! Four nights a week! > > Suit: - Well then it is logical to suggest that > you do not masturbate very often? > > Chris: - Me? Never > > Suit: - Well there you are! That's logical science > at work! > > Chris: - How's that then? > > Suit: - Well from finding out that you had a > goldfish, I've told you about your sex life ! > > Chris: - I see! That's pretty impressive... thanks > mate! > > > Both leave the toilet and Chris returns to his > mate. > > > James: - I see the suit was in there. Did you ask > him what he does? > > Chris: - Yep! He's a logical scientist! > > James: - What's that then? > > Chris: - I'll try and explain. Do you have a > goldfish? > > James: - Nope > > Chris: - Well then, you're a wanker. > > > > > ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:03:22 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: O'Rourke >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O'Rourke > >Same here. Don't see how he came across as a twat at all. He seems a highly >intelligent guy who's coming from a different direction to traditional rock >musicians - almost a latter-day John Cale. A "by-the-way": does everyone know that O'Rourke is now a "full-member" of Sonic youth? For all intents and purposes he has been for quite some time, but has resisted their offer to make it official. ... It now is. >> Robert wrote in reply... >> >mainly his crass comments on Chicago in general....his >> >above-it-all-attitude...I really hate the >> >oh-gotta-move-to-L.A.-or-NYC-attitude......Chicago is a great place with >a >> >lot to offer musically and otherwise... As a Chicago-person I suppose I agree, but it didn't bother me. I thought the "I'll never play in London again because of the response our 20th century avant-show got" (paraphrase) was kind of stupid though. Yes, I know it was advertised as not being a rock show, and I'd be mad too, but come on ... Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:46:09 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs In a message dated 27/02/2002 21:35:40 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > ............... > Right On! funny thing is when he was drummer for > 'Brand X' I considered he had talent No question. He is a great drummer.Period.(As the Yanks say) Call me old fashioned but who could argue that Selling England By The Pound was shite at that time.And that Collins drumming wasn't first class. One of the best lyrics in the world comes from that LP. This is 1974 remember.. (sorry Non UK listers) "TesCo-Operates" A sign of things to come ?? Chris (Sainsbury's Reward Cardholder) O'Connell 2 CDR's posted today.Dalek I Love You. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:15:56 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Re: [faclist] ACR gig!! here's the acr gig info, for all you lucky londonidealcopyistacrfans cheers, another the paul >>ELECTROWERKZ >>Torrens Street, London EC1 >> >>Friday 29th March 2002 >> >>A Certain Ratio >>Richard H Kirk >> >>DJs: >>Andy Weatherall >>Soul Jazz Sound System >>Trevor Jackson (Playground) >>Jerry Dammers >> >> >>tickets: # 11 >> >>from Sounds Of The Universe >> >>12 Ingestre Place >>Soho >>London W1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:43:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs/Pill Collins Wizzcrier wrote: In a message dated 27/02/2002 21:35:40 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: ............... Right On! funny thing is when he was drummer for 'Brand X' I considered he had talent ................. S'funny,coulda sworn my name's Ari........Huh ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:09:41 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Embarrassing CDs/concerts In a message dated 2/27/02 4:36:04 PM, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: >Talking of metal,what about Scraping Feotus off the >Wheel's 'Nail",it's the ONLY 'metal, I own.Ari i'd say you've done a pretty good job of keeping at a safe distance ari :o) no offense rob...i saw rush twice (on purpose)...first concert i fell asleep (i think during bytor and the snow dog (right title?), and about 20 minutes into the second concert they went to the 20 minute drum solo...i think that got me turned off all that music for good :o) never sold the old vinyl though...maybe i'll sneak a listen to hemispheres this weekend, hehe do any listers remember an interview that was done with janie jones and geddy lee? hehe, i think it was in rolling stone, possibly cream, i'm not sure. memory tells me it must've been around 1981-82. i remember it being quite funny, all the arguing over the success of the clash vs rush and the like. - -paul (imagining a geriatric rush reuniting in 2112) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:26:38 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] v. prunes happened to glance through the latest issue of people magazine last night (my neighborhood's thai restaurant -- 1 of 2, actually -- keeps stacks of waiting-room-like reading fodder around, for some reason, a nice thing for the inveterate readers in their clientele) & saw the piece on bono contained some quotes from guggi(sp?) about their growing-up days. odd that it never thought to mention his old band (he *was* a prune, wasn't he?) ... dan, whose most recent listening consists of positive noise's heart of darkness lp on the car's tape deck (can't remember if the one-sided love like property [or something like that] 7" came as a bonus with it or the next lp, not that i've played it yet). not bad, & i'm surprised that they haven't warranted at least a mention in a mick mercer goth retrospective ... the subsequent change of heart is on the flip, but i haven't listened to it yet -- the snatches i heard while taping 'em both over the weekend make me think i won't be bowled over, though. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 00:57:53 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: OT Re: [idealcopy] v. prunes in people magazine In a message dated 2/28/02 12:27:02 AM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: >saw the piece on bono contained >some quotes from guggi(sp?) about their growing-up days. odd that it never >thought to mention his old band (he *was* a prune, wasn't he?) ... heh, when i started to read dan's post i thought it was going to turn out to be an article about virgin prunes in people! anyway, yeah. guggi was in the prunes. the "growing-up days" stories have been told before, i forget where, but kinda fascinating if you can find them...maybe here G A V I N F R I D A Y . C O M (http://www.gavinfriday.com/) or here True Life Story - the Virgin Prunes pages(http://www.estragon.demon.co.uk/vprunes/). stuart, the guy who runs the true life story site, was looking for fan stories years ago. i wrote him a long detailed email about seeing them in ny in 1983. he lost my story and being an internet newbie, i hadn't saved a copy of the letter. i rewrote him a very brief description and asked him what other info he wanted, but he posted the little bit i gave him. kinda stupid compared to the other ones at the site, but i went off on a bit of a tangent... the neat thing about the prunes/u2 story was about how they all decided when they were young that they would form 2 groups and that u2 would strive for pop stardom and virgin prunes would do the opposite, hehe. i think they succeeded! i wonder how they all feel about the decision now, and i wonder why bono hasn't given gavin friday more of a push to the public (my assumption, i don't really know how much bono's supported him. i just think gavin would've had at least one hit given the right circumstances). paul (come to daddy) c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #61 ******************************