From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #41 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, February 8 2002 Volume 05 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- AW: [idealcopy] Re: free-form "hippy" instrumentals [Woerner Frank ] AW: [idealcopy] playlist [Woerner Frank ] AW: [idealcopy] Re : The Church [Woerner Frank ] RE: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song ["Eric Klaver" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: AW: [idealcopy] Re: Marion [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT: mystery track/Church/Buzzkunst/Ubu [John Roberts ] Re: AW: [idealcopy] Re : The Church ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] new member [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] new member [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] new member [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: acr -was [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Hello everybody! ["dan bailey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:57:03 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] Re: free-form "hippy" instrumentals > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: MarkBursa@aol.com [mailto:MarkBursa@aol.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Februar 2002 19:43 > An: keith.astbury10@virgin.net; idealcopy@smoe.org; > mflaher3@triton.cc.il.us; RLynn9@aol.com > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] Re: free-form "hippy" instrumentals > > > << just bought the hives fave new band cd. i know they were > subject of > debate here when i first tuned in, but it sounds ok even if > it isn't the > most original thing i've ever heard. 'hate to say...' - one > of the ones they > did on 'later' is great. >> > > I'm still going with the "Bill Drummond scam" conspiracy > theory there. No > serious band would have a bass player with a moustache. > > Except Husker Du. ... and ZZ Top ... Ok, this moustache is V_E_R_Y big ... ;-)) FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Fwd: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track A mate of mine has come up with this suggestion. Not knowing anything by Wild Swans I wouldn't know if he was near the mark or not. John > Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:29:53 -0000 > > Anyone mention Revolutionary Spirit by Wild Swans? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:30:03 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: John Roberts [mailto:johnroberts_stats@yahoo.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2002 14:22 > An: IdealCopy > Betreff: Fwd: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > > > A mate of mine has come up with this suggestion. Not > knowing anything by Wild Swans I wouldn't know if he > was near the mark or not. > > John > > > Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:29:53 -0000 > > > > Anyone mention Revolutionary Spirit by Wild Swans? Oops, sorry, I couldn't find anything related ... What was the original question? BTW, I have both Wild Swan albums. FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:35:16 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] Re: Marion > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Keith Astbury [mailto:keith.astbury10@virgin.net] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2002 02:33 > An: ideal copy; Dj Na Na > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] Re: ... > may recall i emailed you offline with a friendly message concerning my > shared surname with that of the singer of the cult, because > you said you > liked them. i personally don't particularly like the cult, > but that's cool. > I like marion but no-one else here seems to. I do like them ... do they still exist? Frank from Bavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:21:55 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] playlist here is mine: Pet Shop Boys: new album Luna: new album Spearmint: last album afro celt sound system: vol III other two: superhighways still not listened to wire in 2002, sorry regards, FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:24:07 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] Re : The Church > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ian.s. jackson [mailto:iansjackson@hotmail.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2002 01:22 > An: idealcopy@smoe.org > Betreff: [idealcopy] Re : The Church > > > i'm answering my own question here... As i'm a big church fan and have most of their stuff: What was the question? > it was 'Unguarded Moment' that i was thinking of... > anyone know any other popular ones? I'm going to the shop today buyin' their new album if it is already available. FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:03:07 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song What about ACR or Section 25? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of ian.s. jackson > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:23 PM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song > > > Mark wrote : > >This is still bugging me. Ed, any more clues? Does it have a chorus? > > re : > > "Stranger where are you taking me > > We passed my stop an hour ago > > Do I know what day it is > > I'm in too deep to turn back now" > > you're not kidding Mark, it's bugging the shit out of me too, > especially the > first two lines, it really, really feels like New Order.. > but it can't be? can it? nah... > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:06:04 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Instrumentals Paul mentioned: >, cocteau twins, < "Ribbed and Veined" -- quite excellent Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:11:33 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track Nope. Certainly isn't the Wild Swans. Mark << A mate of mine has come up with this suggestion. Not knowing anything by Wild Swans I wouldn't know if he was near the mark or not. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:12:42 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] Re: Marion Frank, No. The guitarist (Phil Cunningham) is presently playing with New Order. Mark << > I like marion but no-one else here seems to. I do like them ... do they still exist? >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] OT: mystery track/Church/Buzzkunst/Ubu Hi Frank The original Q was those obscure lyrics. If you can't find the Church new LP in your local shop try direct: http://www.cookingvinyl.com/ These people are also doing the Buzzkunst LP and they do all the Pere Ubu back catalogue. The more you buy the more discount so worth a look. Cheers John - --- Woerner Frank wrote: > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: John Roberts > [mailto:johnroberts_stats@yahoo.com] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2002 14:22 > > An: IdealCopy > > Betreff: Fwd: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > > > > > > A mate of mine has come up with this suggestion. > Not > > knowing anything by Wild Swans I wouldn't know if > he > > was near the mark or not. > > > > John > > > > > Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: mystery track > > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:29:53 -0000 > > > > > > Anyone mention Revolutionary Spirit by Wild > Swans? > > > Oops, sorry, I couldn't find anything related ... > What was the original question? > BTW, I have both Wild Swan albums. > > FrankfromBavaria Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:14:54 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (ot)Instrumentals Alistair wrote: << Heard a lovely piece of music on Radio 3's 'Late Junction' last night....turned out tt was called 'gypsy violin' by Harold Budd from his record 'Lovely Thunder' Sublime! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes! nice one! and to any of you who haven't explored the world of Harold Budd..you should!..it's amazing stuff...the music of heaven and lonely deserts in southern california....If you like Lovely Thunder then you should listen to The Moon and the Melodies (a collaboration with the Cocteau Twins) and White Arcades....his two albums with Brian Eno are just as tranquil and beautiful ("Ambient 2: The Plateaux of Mirror" and the "Pearl" which includes help from Daniel Lanois)....Budd has also done an album with Andy Partridge of XTC fame.....Budd's treated piano work is just shimmering and beautiful...heck of a nice guy too! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:21:40 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Instrumentals In a message dated 2/7/02 9:02:54 AM Central Standard Time, eklaver@elysium-sl.com writes: << "Ribbed and Veined" -- quite excellent Eric in Toronto >> oh Yasssss! this is a damn good track! very sensual..like drifting smoke....have you heard the BBC sessions (double cd) by the Cocteau Twins? They do a blurry version of "Strange Fruit"....amazing...it now stands as my second favorite version behind Nina Simone's......I reckon the only bad thing the Cocteau's have done (imho) was the Snow Ep..the one with the cover of Frosty the Snowman...a staple in Starbuck's everywhere...ugh...HOWEVER i would still like to have it for my collection (ugh..a terrible addiction leads to things like this...just say no, kids!) but i don't want to pay evil ebay's inflated prices...anyone out there have a copy they could burn for me? Robert Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:22:17 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song As far as I can tell it's not by a factory band. Certainly not ACR, SXXV, Crispy Ambulance, The Names, the Wake, Tunnelvision or Stockholm Monsters. The singer sounds southern English, a bit goth/emotional - somewhere between Jim Kerr and Pete Murphy. The guitar playing is Cure-like, with string synth and melodica over a slow, spacey sound. Other bands it's not - Modern English, And also the trees. Mark << What about ACR or Section 25? >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:31:51 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] No-man Anybody out there like No-man or Porcupine Tree?... I've been listening to both a lot lately....I prefer No-man but i don't have very much by Porcupine Tree....any opinions or suggestions??? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:10:23 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Baby, You're Just Instrumental >> actually, i think i listen to MORE instrumental music than vocal..now that >> i >> think of it... >> >> Robert > >I'll second that. > Chris I might as well go ahead and "third" it (not particularly surprised at which 2 members I'm "thirding" :) ). I would estimate that about 85-90 % of what I listen to in a typical month is instrumental or close to it. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:07:12 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Baby, You're Just Instrumental In a message dated 2/7/02 10:02:57 AM Central Standard Time, mflaher3@triton.cc.il.us writes: << >> actually, i think i listen to MORE instrumental music than vocal..now that >> i >> think of it... >> >> Robert > >I'll second that. > Chris I might as well go ahead and "third" it (not particularly surprised at which 2 members I'm "thirding" :) ). I would estimate that about 85-90 % of what I listen to in a typical month is instrumental or close to it. Michael Flaherty >> I guess we should call ourselves The Terrific Trio ? cheers to you both! (it's never too early!) Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: [idealcopy] OT The Church on the road And a Cult note... FYI - I was checking out www.pollstar and the Church is in the midst of a massive world tour! They are in Aus, then Europe for a month or so, then to the US in April. Also, they always have a picture on their home page and today's was the Cult's Ian Astbury, from a 12/2001 concert, so they seem to be active as well! > As i'm a big church fan and have most of their > stuff: ===== - ----------------------------------------------------------- Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95016 (831) 425-7335 - ----------------------------------------------------------- Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:44:12 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (ot)Instrumentals and speaking of the Cocteau Twins...i am a little disappointed that the new Violet Indiana cd is just a compilation of the three eps: "Choke"/"Special"/"Killer Eyes" with only three new tracks.....and they inexplicably left off "Busted" (from "Choke"), which is one of the best tracks...sigh..oh well, it's still great stuff!!! for any of you interested in things in the Goldfrapp/Portishead mood you really should check out the full length cd "Roulette" or this ep compilation "Casino"...Robin Guthrie's reverb drenched and sublime guitar really works well in tandem Siobahn Mare's (ex-Mono vocalist) smoky vocals....and no it doesn't sound like a bogus Cocteau Twins rip-off/rehash at all!..it really has it's own identity without losing any of Guthrie's sound....and Mare's vocals sound better in this setting than in the Portishead copy- cat sound of Mono...check it out! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:53:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (ot)Instrumentals In a message dated 2/7/02 12:47:06 PM Central Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: << and speaking of the Cocteau Twins...i am a little disappointed that the new Violet Indiana cd is just a compilation of the three eps: "Choke"/"Special"/"Killer Eyes" with only three new tracks.....and they inexplicably left off "Busted" (from "Choke"), which is one of the best tracks...sigh..oh well, it's still great stuff!!! for any of you interested in things in the Goldfrapp/Portishead mood you really should check out the full length cd "Roulette" or this ep compilation "Casino"...Robin Guthrie's reverb drenched and sublime guitar really works well in tandem Siobahn Mare's (ex-Mono vocalist) smoky vocals....and no it doesn't sound like a bogus Cocteau Twins rip-off/rehash at all!..it really has it's own identity without losing any of Guthrie's sound....and Mare's vocals sound better in this setting than in the Portishead copy- cat sound of Mono...check it out! Robert Lynn >> who says i don't listen to music with vocals...hahahaha robert lynn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:07:28 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song Eric wrote : >What about ACR or Section 25? Ed kindly sent me a clip of the mystery. its definately NOT either of those two. it's much, much, much more obscure than that... much more a 'one or two singles and *gone*' band from 81/82... it's a doozy this one... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:16:18 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] totally OT - left back (at the old folk's home...) Robert wrote : >so what does it mean if i am still playing striker after all these years? >am i nuts? should i start playing left back as well? answers from an old pro... 1. it means you're still young enough, probably. 2(a). if you're over 35, then, yes...and you get no glory whatsoever... 2(b). only if no other bugger will play there (i'm a right-footer) don't forget lad(ie)s, each game as it comes... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: jonathan mukukenow Subject: [idealcopy] Hello everybody! Hello, This is my first post, as I've only joined the list since yesterday! I mainly got interested in Wire by a few associations, Minor Threat cover (12XU) and (gasp!) Wire ripoffs--Elastica. Can't say that I have a favorite album or track (there's too many to choose), but Wire's music (and side projects) are definetly something that I never grow tired of listening to. That's about it for now, any other posters here reside in the Chicago land area? Take care--------Jon Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:42:07 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] Re : The Church >I'm going to the shop today buyin' their new album if >it is already available. > >FrankfromBavaria saw it in my shop today Frank, hope you like it... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:51:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: totally OT - left back (at the old folk's home...) In a message dated 2/7/02 4:16:25 PM Central Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > don't forget lad(ie)s, each game as it comes... > > ian.s.j. > aye cap'n !!! cheers! Robert Ugly Shins Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:53:04 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello everybody! In a message dated 2/7/02 4:26:41 PM Central Standard Time, j_begbie@yahoo.com writes: > That's about it for now, any other posters here reside in the Chicago land > area? Take care--------Jon > welcome to the list Jon, i reside in St. Louis, which is only 5 hours away...(4 if your driving with Nascar Robert : ) cheers to ya! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:01:04 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song In a message dated 2/7/02 4:09:31 PM Central Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > Ed kindly sent me a clip of the mystery. its definately NOT either of those > two. it's much, much, much more obscure than that... > much more a 'one or two singles and *gone*' band from 81/82... > it's a doozy this one... > > ian.s.j. > boys, we gotta do it !! we gotta figure this one out...let's see, we'll move Ian up to the midfield....Eric you play sweeper...c'mon boys let's do it... Robert Der Kaiser Lynn (snicker) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:47:52 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song By the way guys, I am currently rocking out to all 4 of the Magazine lps !!!! Thanks to all of you who reccommended them so highly! i like them all differently.....good stuff! Robert p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the best one to have/start out with?.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:52:03 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song In a message dated 2/7/02 5:49:16 PM Central Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > By the way guys, I am currently rocking out to all 4 of the Magazine lps > !!!! > Thanks to all of you who reccommended them so highly! i like them all > differently.....good stuff! > > Robert > > p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the > best > one to have/start out with?.... > oh yeah, and i also got Luxuria's "Beast Box" on cd for $2.99....i haven't listened to it yet though.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 00:00:22 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Here it is...again... Robert re-starts a pet subject!!!... >p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the >best one to have/start out with?.... 'To Each...' is fine, but 'Sextet' is THE one dude... ^_^ ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello everybody! You asked if anyone lives nr, chicago Not me,I live in Chapel Hill,N.C,not too far if you look at a (small) map.Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:08:19 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... In a message dated 2/7/02 6:00:46 PM Central Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > 'To Each...' is fine, but 'Sextet' is THE one dude... ^_^ > > ian.s.j. > > now i usually hear differently...but since Ian is the captain of the team , and has never steered me wrong.. Robert (glad to be a part of the B.A.T. FC - British/American Tossers Football Club) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 00:12:59 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... > > 'To Each...' is fine, but 'Sextet' is THE one dude... ^_^ > > > > ian.s.j. > > > > > >now i usually hear differently...but since Ian is the captain of the team , >and has never steered me wrong.. > >Robert (glad to be a part of the B.A.T. FC - British/American Tossers >Football Club) if 'Sextet' don't rock your world, you're on the bench brother!!!! ;) satisfaction guaranteed... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] My list 2002 So far this year I have listened to: A3 Jewels new one(a new,mature Jewel) Shriekback John Zorn Eno Marcus Roberts Miles Davis Arvo Part Radiohead Dead Can Dance Wilco Tom Waits Morphine Barry Adamson Evil Beaver The Cure Dave Douglas Collective Soul Frank Zappa Gil Evans Christine Kane John Coltrane Miroslav Vitous Garbage Psychedelic Furs V.U John Martyn Barbara Thompson David Byrne Roy Orbison Cracker Buddy Holly oh,and of course Wire. Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 00:38:51 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... ...by the way, did they ever issue >Graveyard/Ballroom cassette on cd?? yep, they sure did, Mr.Bursa has the details, must get one... i still have my original (shit) cassette...*confused grin* ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:48:45 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Baby, You're Just Instrumental In a message dated 2/7/02 11:02:57 AM, mflaher3@triton.cc.il.us writes: << >> Robert > >I'll second that. > Chris I might as well go ahead and "third" it (not particularly surprised at which 2 members I'm "thirding" :) ). I would estimate that about 85-90 % of what I listen to in a typical month is instrumental or close to it. Michael Flaherty >> hey michael! no fair! i thirded it first. you can third it second or fourth it first. your choice :o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:53:02 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song In a message dated 2/7/02 5:09:31 PM, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: << Ed kindly sent me a clip of the mystery. its definately NOT either of those two. it's much, much, much more obscure than that... much more a 'one or two singles and *gone*' band from 81/82... it's a doozy this one... >> ooh ooh, can i get a clip too? is it an mp3? - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:57:48 EST From: Bukithead44@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] new member happy to know of other people who appreciate great music! been a fan of wire from the start. i play guitar and have been greatly influenced by wires musical approach. 154 is my favorite album. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:59:07 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: acr -was[idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song In a message dated 2/7/02 6:49:16 PM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: << p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the best one to have/start out with?.... >> okay, i am officially seconding sextet. i love to each, and if you do too you can't go wrong with sextet. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 01:04:00 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song >ooh ooh, can i get a clip too? is it an mp3? > >-paul c.d. Ed? can you send it on to Paul? i think i've deleted mine!! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:05:25 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new member In a message dated 2/7/02 7:59:31 PM, Bukithead44@aol.com writes: << happy to know of other people who appreciate great music! been a fan of wire from the start. i play guitar and have been greatly influenced by wires musical approach. 154 is my favorite album. >> i could've written the same intro, cept i started with chairs missing. welcome to the list buckithead, another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:15:07 -0800 (PST) From: mrbollocks Subject: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song ???? Perhaps someone could log onto audiogalaxy with this clip? (make sure you provide a name for it and let us know) This way, we could all have a crack at it. Cheers, Billy - --- Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/7/02 5:09:31 PM, > iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > > << > Ed kindly sent me a clip of the mystery. its > definately NOT either of those > two. it's much, much, much more obscure than that... > much more a 'one or two singles and *gone*' band > from 81/82... > it's a doozy this one... >> > > ooh ooh, can i get a clip too? is it an mp3? > > -paul c.d. ===== . /\/\/\ { . . } /\ -- -bollocks! (R)GWS Ltdhttp://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new member welcome to the list buckithead, another the paul 'OO R U callin' bucket'ead nice way to great a new member i must say old boy. Ari ===== everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:07:26 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song Robert, As a general rule, ACR get worse as they go on. For me the best stuff is on 1st album, The Graveyard and the Ballroom (hunt this down on CD - it was reissued by Creation a few years back) - the original was a cassette-only release on Factory. Also essential is the Flight 12 inch (comes between TGATB & To Each...) and Sextet, the follow-up to TE. Don't forget all the singles (esp the excellent Waterline) aren't on the albums so you need to find those too! By the time of the 4th album (I'd like to see you again) it all gets a bit smoooooth for my liking - too much into jazz-funk. But still worth a listen... Mark << p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the best one to have/start out with?.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:09:44 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... To each was screwed up in production - a dozy studio engineer wiped Hannett's roiginal mix, and he had to redo it - and never got it right. Sextet is better - but The Graveyard and the ballroom is THE one!!! Mark << > 'To Each...' is fine, but 'Sextet' is THE one dude... ^_^ > > ian.s.j. > > now i usually hear differently...but since Ian is the captain of the team , and has never steered me wrong. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:13:35 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new member It's his email address! Mark << 'OO R U callin' bucket'ead nice way to great a new member i must say old boy. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:17:17 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... << yep, they sure did, Mr.Bursa has the details, must get one... i still have my original (shit) cassette...*confused grin* >> It was a "quick before we go bust" rerelease by Creation of all people. The originals were recorded on the shittest cheap tapoes ever made. They actually deposiyted brown gunge on your cassette deck heads after about 10 mins causing a uffled sound. I actually made a tape-to-tape backup of the opriginal, recording it track by track, and cleaning the playback head after each song! The CD reissue was most welcome. It's a fabulous album, on which you can hear the genius work of Peter Terrell - ACR's own mini-Bruce Gilbert! Those ACR reissues were gone so fast - maybe I should have words with Mr Nice at LTM.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:59:12 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new member In a message dated 2/7/02 8:23:33 PM, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: << welcome to the list buckithead, another the paul 'OO R U callin' bucket'ead nice way to great a new member i must say old boy. >> hehe, it's his (her?) email address! the email wasn't signed, so... :o) - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:05:48 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: acr -was [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song In a message dated 2/7/02 9:09:44 PM, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << Also essential is the Flight 12 inch (comes between TGATB & To Each...) and Sextet, the follow-up to TE. Don't forget all the singles (esp the excellent Waterline) aren't on the albums so you need to find those too! >> yeah! flight has some of my fave songs on it. unless you're a vinyl fiend, you may want to wait until sometime next month (hopefully) when there's supposed to be a 2CD release of early acr, including rare stuff like the 12"ers & b-sides, remixes, that sorta stuff. woohoo! - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:59:51 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Here it is...again... In a message dated 08/02/2002 00:09:17 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > 'To Each...' is fine, but 'Sextet' is THE one dude... ^_^ > I've got most of what ACR have done & they do seperate into 2 distictly different sounds.I prefer the early ACR 7 I have to agree with Ian that Sextet is the one to start off with.Try Force later on for their progression into a more funky sound altogether. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:41:31 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello everybody! if memory serves, a pretty decent hometown listmember contingent was on hand when wire played chicago in 5/00, though most of them (not including my host, the redoubtable laurel) seem to have dropped by the wayside. i flew in from little rock (though i've since consigned myself to montgomery, ala. -- funny how lr has now taken on the patina of, say, nyc in comparison) for that one ... the first & quite possibly the last (finances & advancing age being what they are) time i've ever done such a thing for a "mere" band. dan > You asked if anyone lives nr, chicago >Not me,I live in Chapel Hill,N.C,not too far if you >look at a (small) map.Ari > >===== >everything in moderation is good for you,including excess. >Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! >http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:57:08 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song >By the way guys, I am currently rocking out to all 4 of the Magazine lps !!!! at the same time? quite impressive -- i think i've got only 3 means of playing music (stereo, ghetto blaster, car tapedeck). dan >Thanks to all of you who reccommended them so highly! i like them all >differently.....good stuff! > >Robert > >p.s. any opinions on A Certain Ratio ?...I have "To Each".. is this the best >one to have/start out with?.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:01:12 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: acr -was [idealcopy] 20 Year Mystery Song >yeah! flight has some of my fave songs on it. unless you're a vinyl fiend, >you may want to wait until sometime next month (hopefully) when there's >supposed to be a 2CD release of early acr, including rare stuff like the >12"ers & b-sides, remixes, that sorta stuff. woohoo! > >-paul c.d. keep us posted ... the only acr that's ever impressed me was the debut all night party/thin boys 7", but perhaps i need to pull the first couple of lp's back out. (when exactly did martha tillson -- if i'm remembering her name correctly, which at 3 a.m. is hardly guaranteed -- take over the vocals? i think i liked her better on the occult chemistry 7", though now i'm reaching back a couple of decades for that one). dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:17:31 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ad music >It seems quite the trend, at least in the USA for car ads to feature really >cool music. We've had Pyshic TV and Nick Drake and Television >Personalities, which tvp's? that one must've passed me right by ... along with the Who. Caddilac is using Zeplin's "Rock and >Roll" now, but my personal fave is T Rex's "20th Century Boy". That riff >just jumps off the screen .... i doubt that i'd even recognize rock & roll ... i certainly agree about 20th century boy, though -- between that & the use of get it on on another ad these days, perhaps it's time for t rex to finally make a splash over here. (how long till some car company picks up on metal guru, anyway?). dan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "dan bailey" >To: "idealcopy" >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:07 PM >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ad music > > >> it's not exactly the usual topic here (though if we're discussing wizzard, >> etc ...), but just how sad is it that i got excited a few minutes ago upon >> hearing the faces' ooh la la on the tv in the front room as the theme for >a >> mitsubishi ad? maybe ronnie lane's descendants are getting a bit of money >> ... >> >> dan ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #41 ******************************