From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #17 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, January 17 2002 Volume 05 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] re. xtc dream [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] voices [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] mikki maus [giluz ] [idealcopy] Fad Gadget [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Fad Gadget live cd [BillyD ] [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. [Tim ] [idealcopy] Ant News...and Shaky's up to his old tricks too [Tim ] Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. ["Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re. xtc dream > i dreamt that a very old and wrinkly lou reed was on the 'parkinson' chat > show, talking complete bollocks like some old blues singer who's lost his > marbles and that parkinson was smiling as as he tapped the top of a piano in > time to some awful thing that lou played. it was sad to see. believe me... > > keith A talkshow with celebrities suffering from Parkinson's? What will they come up with next I ask you... *sigh* Bart [frequent beeb-watcher from Holland - the country that brought you BIG Brother!] bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:22:32 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] voices > < < Subject: Re: [idealcopy] mikki maus on 1/16/02 12:41 AM, Keith Astbury at keith.astbury10@virgin.net wrote: > played the excellent 'swim team #1' cd last week. one track that sounds > especially good at the moment is the ronnie & clyde track 'mikki maus'. can > any IC-ers recommend anything else by them ? Their "In Glorious Black & Blue" from swim/posteverything (http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=98) - I also bought it after listening to Mikki Maus and didn't regret it. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:26:40 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget Just noticed Frank Tovey's playing the Garage (yes 'that' Garage) as Fad Gadget this Friday 18th tickets #9.50..... I know there are some on this list who are into him and there's a 'wire' connection via Mr Gotobed apologies to those in other geographical locations.. later A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:41:08 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget #2 Also playing Manchester University Saturday 19th Jan later A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:39:38 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Stand & Deliver > Oh, I see....we don' hear much from him, then he is arrested before > headlining a retro tour. Should get himself a better > publicist.........mmmmmm, I dunno though ;) > ///////just think , all those has-beens sitting there waiting to do their first tour for a decade and the headline act gets put into a mental hospital. the tragedy! who can replace such a dude? anyone got jeff lynne's phone number? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:45:36 -0000 From: "Scott Kellock" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V5 #14 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "idealcopy-digest" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #14 > Today's Subjects: > ----------------- - - ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________________________________________ > > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:53:16 EST > From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: amazing stuff > > In a message dated 13/01/2002 19:46:54 GMT Standard Time, > keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > > > people talk about how bowie lost it after > > 'heroes' / 'lodger' / 'scary monsters' (delete as applicable), but > > personally > > i think bowie regained some ground and had a pretty good 90's. > > Oh Oh Keith! don't let Paul Rabjohn hear you saying things like that. > For me personally he has never surpassed 'Low" which is still one of my top > 20 all time albums.The amazing contrast of Side 1 & Side 2 of that LP knocked > me for six when I first heard it.Just great stuff. > Chris Hi Chris. I agree with you , Lets look at "Hunky Dory" 30 years On! f**K the new Bowie Rejoice in the "Old" Bowie , up until "Low". Only a few tracks since then are any good( unless you Know of any unreleased stuff). "Andy Warhol looks a sceam, hang him on my wall"RIP Feeder Drummer (nearly Graham Obree) Sweet Thing!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:12:01 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Oh No 'The Wire'!!! which reminds me of the fact that my favorite used store back in little rock has (or did when last i was there) the first 3 lp's, looking to be in perfect shape, on the shelves for maybe $3 each. one can only *hope* they were ditched by someone replacing them with the cd reissues ... which also reminds me of the entertainment editor for my former paper, who a couple of years ago mis-reviewed the album "magazine" by the band jump little children as being the album "jump little children" by the *band* magazine (or rather *a* band magazine ... i doubt he'd know howard devoto from karla devito, or whatever her name is). *sigh* at that point, of course, i had no choice but to move on. dan > In a message dated 1/10/02 9:26:03 AM Central Standard Time, > MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > > << << as a matter of fact i marched up to > my local used cd shop and purchased "Secondhand Daylight" by Magazine for > $4.99 !!! great stuff! > >> > > I like it when listers do as they're told!! > > $4.99 well spent - now go and get the other two :-) > > Mark >> > > yes sir! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:07:35 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Magazine/Buzzcocks it also goes without saying, i think, that the devoto- era buzzcocks stuff -- the spiral scratch ep & time's up demos, both reissued on cd (even in the us!) within the last year or so -- is also essential. dan > Robert wrote : > >as a matter of fact i marched up to > >my local used cd shop and purchased "Secondhand Daylight" by Magazine >for > >$4.99 !!! great stuff! > > now all you gotta do is get hold of 'Real Life' and 'The Correct Use Of > Soap'...all 3 different in mood, but all equally brilliant, honest. > you KNOW you can trust us...! ;) > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:24:42 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Unknown Pleasures/Great Lost LP's > John wrote re: Unknown Pleasures: Great Lost Albums > > >For the anoraks and/or to facilitate discussion the > >other albums 'rediscovered' in it are: > >Neil Young, Time Fades Away; > >Captain Beefheart, Clear Spot; > >Chic, Risque; > >Specials, More Specials; > >Gene Clark, No Other; > >Todd Rundgren, A Wizard, A True Star; > >ABC, The Lexicon of Love; > >Abba, The Visitors; > >Go Betweens, Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond > >Express; > >Residents, Eskimo; > >Bow Wow Wow, See Jungle! See Jungle! Go Join Your Gang > >Yeah, City All Over! Go Ape Crazy!; > >Raincoats, s/t; > >Orange Juice, You Can't Hide Your Love Forever; > >Fleetwood Mac, Tusk; > >Soft Boys, Underwater Moonlight; > >Microdisney, 39 Minutes; > >Fatima Mansions, Lost in the Former West; > >Dexy's Midnight Runners, Don't Let Your Love Stand Me > >Down; > >Led Zeppelin, Presence; > >Curtis Mayfield, There's No Place Like America Today. > > > >I've only got three of these albums (not including > >Secondhand Daylight); Raincoats, Residents and > >Beefheart. > > ok, i'll go with this one just for the hell of it... > of the above, i own or have owned (apart from 'S.D.') > the Beefheart, Go-Betweens, Bow Wow Wow, and Orange Juice LP's. > curiously (for me), i think, of the others, i'd really like to have/hear > 'More Specials' right now, if i had to choose only one... > oh,...ok...and the Gene Clark!! > i'm sure we could all add a few more to that list...couldn't we...? > ian.s.j. whereas i definitely own the raincoats, go-b's & fatima mansions ... possibly the abc, chic & orange juice as well (my vinyl is still in a roomful of boxes). if i had to add what i consider an overlooked gem to that list, it'd be alternative tv's strange kicks from '81 or thereabouts -- great pop, & completely different from, say, the image has cracked. i've also become very fond of wall of voodoo's final (& 2nd post-stan-ridgway) studio lp, happy planet. dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 05:42:45 +0000 From: Peter Subject: [idealcopy] Apologies I'm writing to apologise to those of you that got email bounces (Messenge undelivered) from my 'cancellation.freeserve.co.uk' account. I installed a new mail system and failed to set it up correctly and subsequently anyone sending a message that ultimately arrived here got back. Sorry again and in future I will RTFM. - -- Peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:48:24 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget In a message dated 1/16/02 6:24:56 AM Central Standard Time, alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk writes: << Just noticed Frank Tovey's playing the Garage (yes 'that' Garage) as Fad Gadget this Friday 18th tickets #9.50..... I know there are some on this list who are into him and there's a 'wire' connection via Mr Gotobed apologies to those in other geographical locations.. later A >>>>>> If anybody goes to any of the Fad Gadget shows, would you please pick up some memorabilia for me? a poster, a flyer, a ticket stub? anything! i am a huge Fad Gadget fan...any of you kind fellows/gals can e-mail me at RLynn9@aol.com..THANKS! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:01:41 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget In a message dated 16/01/02 17:50:21 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > If anybody goes to any of the Fad Gadget shows, would you please pick up > some > memorabilia for me? a poster, a flyer, a ticket stub? anything! i am a huge > Fad Gadget fan...any of you kind fellows/gals can e-mail me at > RLynn9@aol.com..THANKS! > > Robert Lynn > ////if you go look at ebay some naughty fellow is selling a whole stack of live FG cd'r's for about $9 a pop. nobody seems to be bidding , i bought a lyons 1/81 disc (wonder why i chose that one?) a couple of weeks back but it hasn't arrived yet so i can't comment on the quality. saw fad about 3 times post-rob (mid-80's). liked him live but never totally impressed with the records , couple of singles apart. p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:53:53 -0800 (PST) From: BillyD Subject: [idealcopy] Fad Gadget live cd I bought one of these cds from someone and I'm still waiting for it to get here. It's a concert from last year opening for Depeche Mode. If it ever shows up I'll post the list and I would be willing to make copies. Cheers, Billy > > > ////if you go look at ebay some naughty fellow is > selling a whole stack of > live FG cd'r's for about $9 a pop. nobody seems to > be bidding , i bought a > lyons 1/81 disc (wonder why i chose that one?) a > couple of weeks back but it > hasn't arrived yet so i can't comment on the > quality. > > saw fad about 3 times post-rob (mid-80's). liked him > live but never totally > impressed with the records , couple of singles > apart. p ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:09:40 +0000 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. Good to see Can, Depeche Mode, Throbbing Gristle and Fennesz on the same CD! Very IdealCopy methinks. P.S. But oh god not bloody Warm Leatherette again......... - --------------------- Rare and exclusive tracks from the likes of APHEX TWIN, BRIAN ENO, HUMAN LEAGUE and JOHN CAGE feature on a forthcoming electronica compilation from ROUGH TRADE. CD1 7 Brian Eno - 'Signals' 7 Rod Freeman & The Blue Men - 'I Hear A New World' 7 Oval - 'Kardamon' 7 Barbara Morgenstern - 'Die Liebe (R. Lippok: Schneekristall Mix)' 7 Throbbing Gristle -'Hot on the Heels of Love' 7 Christian Zanesi - 'Marseille 2' 7 BBC Radiophonic Workshop - 'Doctor Who (Original Theme)' 7 I-F - 'Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Radio Edit)' 7 Raymond Scott - 'Bufferin: "Memories" (Original)' 7 Schneider TM Vs Kpt. Michi. - 'Gan The Light 3000' 7 Thomas Leer & Robert Rental - 'Day Breaks, Night Heals' 7 Autechre - 'Basscadet' 7 New Order - '586' 7 Matmos - 'Freak 'n' You' 7 Uusitalo - 'Between Kate and Naomi' 7 Pierre Henry- 'Atelier' 7 Aphex Twin - 'Inkey $' 7 Terre Thaemlitz - 'D.C. D.O.A.' 7 Kraftwerk - 'The Robots' 7 John Cage - 'Radio Music (Edit)' 7 Non - 'Out Out Out' CD2 7 Faust - 'Just A Second (Starts Like That!)' 7 To Rococo Rot -'Cars (Variant)' 7 Can - 'I Want More' 7 Stereolab -'Freestyle Dumping' 7 Pan Sonic -'Arvio' 7 Arovane - 'Tascel_7' 7 LB - 'Superbad' 7 D - 'Firspk' 7 Human League - 'Being Boiled' 7 Aux 88 - 'Direct Drive (Edit)' 7 Bruce Haack - 'Mean Old Devil' 7 Kevin Blechdom - 'Peanuts' 7 Fischerspooner - 'Turn On' 7 Thomas Brinkmann - 'Trixie' 7 The Normal - 'Warm Leatherette' 7 Depeche Mode - 'Big Muff' 7 Dexter - 'Senderwahl' 7 Fennesz - '011' 7 Farben - 'At the golden circle Stockholm vol.1,1965' 7 Elph Vs Coil - 'Ended' _______________________________________ www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:17:38 +0000 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Ant News...and Shaky's up to his old tricks too Ant Update. All is not well in Ant-World. Those over-lit Mike Mansfield videos and that pantomime cat haunt me still........ http://www.nme.com/news/story.htm?ID=100438 And as for Shaky...... http://www.nme.com/news/story.htm?ID=100448 What is it with these stars of the early 80s? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:46:27 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. In a message dated 1/16/02 8:11:02 PM Central Standard Time, timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: << Good to see Can, Depeche Mode, Throbbing Gristle and Fennesz on the same CD! Very IdealCopy methinks. P.S. But oh god not bloody Warm Leatherette again......... --------------------- >> I WILL NEVER GET SICK OF WARM LEATHERETTE!!! OR THE B-SIDE T.V. O.D...!!!!.....c'mon those songs rule! I also love the version of Warm Leatherette by Grace Jones...Sorrow do an awesome version as well! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:58:44 -0800 From: "John M Campbell" Subject: [idealcopy] UK currency I wonder if some nice English list person can help me. I just won an auction on eBay and the seller is in Devon, UK. Now it happens that I have a five pound note w/ her majesty on one side andtheDuke of Wellington on the other. My question is....is this note(souvenier of a great trip of awhile ago) still legal tender? It's the exact amount of the transaction - so convenient. Anyway thanksfor any help..........Cheers, johnc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:38:49 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. what's wrong with 'warm leatherette' ? it's a great record - as is 'tvod' on the other side (and grace jones version of 'leatherette' is pretty fab too) . - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:09 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. > Good to see Can, Depeche Mode, Throbbing Gristle and Fennesz on the same CD! > > Very IdealCopy methinks. > > P.S. But oh god not bloody Warm Leatherette again......... > > --------------------- > > > Rare and exclusive tracks from the likes of APHEX TWIN, BRIAN ENO, HUMAN > LEAGUE and JOHN CAGE feature on a forthcoming electronica compilation from > ROUGH TRADE. > > > > CD1 > 7 Brian Eno - 'Signals' > 7 Rod Freeman & The Blue Men - 'I Hear A New World' > 7 Oval - 'Kardamon' > 7 Barbara Morgenstern - 'Die Liebe (R. Lippok: Schneekristall Mix)' > 7 Throbbing Gristle -'Hot on the Heels of Love' > 7 Christian Zanesi - 'Marseille 2' > 7 BBC Radiophonic Workshop - 'Doctor Who (Original Theme)' > 7 I-F - 'Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Radio Edit)' > 7 Raymond Scott - 'Bufferin: "Memories" (Original)' > 7 Schneider TM Vs Kpt. Michi. - 'Gan The Light 3000' > 7 Thomas Leer & Robert Rental - 'Day Breaks, Night Heals' > 7 Autechre - 'Basscadet' > 7 New Order - '586' > 7 Matmos - 'Freak 'n' You' > 7 Uusitalo - 'Between Kate and Naomi' > 7 Pierre Henry- 'Atelier' > 7 Aphex Twin - 'Inkey $' > 7 Terre Thaemlitz - 'D.C. D.O.A.' > 7 Kraftwerk - 'The Robots' > 7 John Cage - 'Radio Music (Edit)' > 7 Non - 'Out Out Out' > CD2 > 7 Faust - 'Just A Second (Starts Like That!)' > 7 To Rococo Rot -'Cars (Variant)' > 7 Can - 'I Want More' > 7 Stereolab -'Freestyle Dumping' > 7 Pan Sonic -'Arvio' > 7 Arovane - 'Tascel_7' > 7 LB - 'Superbad' > 7 D - 'Firspk' > 7 Human League - 'Being Boiled' > 7 Aux 88 - 'Direct Drive (Edit)' > 7 Bruce Haack - 'Mean Old Devil' > 7 Kevin Blechdom - 'Peanuts' > 7 Fischerspooner - 'Turn On' > 7 Thomas Brinkmann - 'Trixie' > 7 The Normal - 'Warm Leatherette' > 7 Depeche Mode - 'Big Muff' > 7 Dexter - 'Senderwahl' > 7 Fennesz - '011' > 7 Farben - 'At the golden circle Stockholm vol.1,1965' > 7 Elph Vs Coil - 'Ended' > > _______________________________________ > > www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:48:45 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. > In a message dated 1/16/02 8:11:02 PM Central Standard Time, > timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: > > << Good to see Can, Depeche Mode, Throbbing Gristle and Fennesz on the same > CD! > > Very IdealCopy methinks. > > P.S. But oh god not bloody Warm Leatherette again......... > > --------------------- >> > I WILL NEVER GET SICK OF WARM LEATHERETTE!!! OR THE B-SIDE T.V. > O.D...!!!!.....c'mon those songs rule! I also love the version of Warm > Leatherette by Grace Jones...Sorrow do an awesome version as well! > > Robert looks like robert has already sent exactly the same reply as me. that'll teach me to read all my messages before i reply in a fit of pique. still a nice bit of synchronatic solidarity i'd say. keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:47:45 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Electronic Comp. In a message dated 1/16/02 11:38:10 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: << what's wrong with 'warm leatherette' ? it's a great record - as is 'tvod' on the other side (and grace jones version of 'leatherette' is pretty fab too) . >> Here here!!!!! i just said that Keith!!!!! Robert ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #17 ******************************