From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #6 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, January 7 2002 Volume 05 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] strokes/hives/stripes [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] strokes/hives/stripes [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] Never mind the Strokes... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Cabaret Voltaire are the most erratic band ever? [RLynn9@] Re: [idealcopy] Cabaret Voltaire ... you remix me; I remix you... ["JS (J] Re: [idealcopy] Way OT - Melton Mowbray ["Ian B" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:33:11 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] strokes/hives/stripes Ari wrote: > Bart? wrote >> It just seems false to me. Stage school kids. The > strokes - singer's > daddy >> owns a modelling agency. Guitarist's daddy is Albert > "free electric > band" >> Hammond. THIS IS NOT THE MUSIC OF THE STREETS, > KIDS!!! > > I wonder if anyone on this list is "from the street"! > So what's your point - that they're somehow > genetically polluted? > > problem is we tend to pidgeon-hole ourselves and > become as ignorant/stuck-up/snobbish/elitist as the > 'rest of 'em'. the trick is to embrace all genres and > all styles,but only 'wear' what suits us.If it sounds > good,it is good,Ari. > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - ----------------------------------------- Let's not get confused here, I was the one who wrote: "I wonder if anyone on this list is "from the street"! So what's your point - that they're somehow genetically polluted?" merely reacting to "THIS IS NOT THE MUSIC OF THE STREETS, KIDS!!!" BART bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com PS Maybe we should all start using the same quoting-codes! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:41:47 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] my first music of the new year! I wrote: >> and a weird Aphex Twin cd with >> lots of remixes and unusual stuff. GREAT! [Underworld, Cocteau's, Bowie, >> NIN...] Then Tim wrote: > Is it a bootleg? I've never seen that before. > > One of my favorite stories about Aphex....around 91/92 it seemed almost > everyone wanted an Aphex Twin remix as a sure-fire way of selling that > second CD of their latest single. > Mr James was more than willing to oblige..easy money of course. > But one day he's at home and a motorcycle courier turns up to collect a > remix that has been commisioned for some indie band (The Lemonheads if I > remember correctly)...Richard James has clean forgot to do the mix so > rushes upstairs and grabs a reel of tape containing an track he's just made > and gives him that. The record company doesn't notice that the tape > contains not one single note of the original song and duly issues the > 'remix' to the unsuspecting public! It's a pretty well crafted CDR - looking like a proper CD. Seemed a friend of a friend compiled all these rarities. It's a great story indeed. It's sort of leading a life of it's own - everyone tells it in slightly different version [wich is nice]. I guess that's how myths and legends start, eh? Cheers... BART bartvandamme@home.nl http://www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:47:07 +0300 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Never mind the Strokes... on 1/5/02 7:38 PM, MrSodium@aol.com at MrSodium@aol.com wrote: > C'mon people--let's maintain our focus > on 80's pop, please! Heard the new Depeche Mode single yesterday - crap as everything else they did - some things never change! giluz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 08:23:30 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] strokes/hives/stripes > << Does being "from the street" lend music instant > credibility? > I grew up lower middle class. If I chose to be a > concert pianist, would that > discredit me? >> Lower Middle Class? Is this a splinter group of the old US punk band The Middle Class? (Out of Vogue/Situations on one of the Fast Product Earcom singles.) More interesting reading I got for Xmas esp for those old punks on the list who used to like Crass: Winter 2001/2 edition of The Idler. Contains lengthy interview with Penny Rimbaud. Includes pics of the Crass commune which I'd never seen before. http://www.idler.co.uk John Let's all laugh at Derby... Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:29:47 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: [idealcopy] wire info Happy New Year to all, Does anyone know where I can find Wire's "Vien" CD?? I like the song Sexy and Rich. This CD is about the only thing I don't have of Wire. Can anyone recommend the bootleg video's that are on VHS or CD-Rom? It looks very interesting to me. I am sure most of you know this but there is a concert online you can watch at http://www.supersphere.com/Club/NoisePop/ Also what about Wire's new CD.....when is it coming out?? I expect it will be mid year, but I hope sooner... I am having new Wire material withdrawal... ;^( peace Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:46:28 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Never mind the Strokes... In a message dated 1/6/02 5:48:40 AM Central Standard Time, giluz@netvision.net.il writes: > Heard the new Depeche Mode single yesterday - crap as everything else they > did - some things never change! > > giluz > what does the b-side sound like? is it instrumental or vocal? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:53:40 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Cabaret Voltaire are the most erratic band ever? In a message dated 1/4/02 8:55:57 PM Central Standard Time, timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: > It got pretty grim after that though. > Didn't they get Stock, Aitken & Waterman to do a remix for 'Keep On'? > > i'm not sure about that...BUT Richard Kirk did do a remix for Bananarama!!! it was a Sandoz or Sweet Exorcict remix, can't rememeber which... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) From: "JS (Jim) Adams" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Cabaret Voltaire ... you remix me; I remix you... > > Didn't they get Stock, Aitken & Waterman to do a remix for 'Keep On'? The Cab's www.brainwashed.com discography lists: Keep On (EMI, 1990) 7/12/CDS 12" single: - Keep On (Clubbing) - Keep On (Land of Oz Mix) - Keep On (Instrumental) A-side mixed by Phil Harding for PWL Ltd. B-side mixed by Paul Oakenfold 7" single: - Keep On - Keep On (Les's Dub) CD single: - Keep On - Keep On (Western Works Mix) - Keep On (Clubbing) Produced by Cabaret Voltaire, Robert Gordon & Mark Brydon Keep On (Sweet Exorcist Mix) (EMI, 1990) 12 - Keep On (Sweet Exorcist Mix) - Keep On (Sleazy Dog Mix) - Keep On (Mayday Mix) A mixed by Cabaret Voltaire and Parrot B mixed by Derreck May But I've also seen a Japanese site list a Stock Aitken and Waterman mix... perhaps club mix by them and not for sale or acknowledged by Kirk/Mal? > i'm not sure about that...BUT Richard Kirk did do a remix for Bananarama!!! > it was a Sandoz or Sweet Exorcict remix, can't rememeber which... Bananarama: Trippin' on Your Love (London) Trippin' on Your Love (Sweet Exorcist mix) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:59:49 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Way OT - Melton Mowbray Sorry about this; my partner is looking to buy a house in Melton Mowbray, and I was wondering if anybody on the list (Leicester City contingent?) has any insight into the place (e.g places to avoid, pitfalls etc). If so, could you contact me OFF-LIST. Cheers Ian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:25:36 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] the cabs PWL, is of course, Pete Waterman Ltd, which obviously explains the Stock Aitken Waterman association. And why didn't the might 1983 'Crackdown' LP get a mention in the Cabs hilites here. It was their first without the treated vocs - controversial in a dylan goes electric kind of way - but apart from the early 'nag nag nag' 45 I reckon it includes some of their greatest moments. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #6 *****************************