From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #385 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, December 20 2001 Volume 04 : Number 385 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Alright...'ere It Is....AGAIN! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Antitrade [Michael Flaherty ] [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? [BillyD ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? [dpbailey@att.net] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OUR FRANK... ["bartvandamme@home" ] [idealcopy] Oblique Strategies [kevin eden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:16:27 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Alright...'ere It Is....AGAIN! Tim, Hang on though - only another 18 months and we can start re-enacting the post-punk wars! I'll get me raincoat... Mark << Is alternative music turning into some kind of musical 'Sealed Knot' society re-enacting famous cultural battles of yesteryear? Fackin Ell. This Christmas I suggest all of us cultural critics on IdealCopy raise a glass to the real makers of the 21st Century. The Hidden and the un-publicised. Those who mangle the Powerbook and tweak the fader. Those who quietly build a better musical future for us all while the NME and their misguided followers doggedly hope to start a new revolution by re-enacting the Punk wars. >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:34:54 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Antitrade >>////so what are the tracks called on those other 2 compilations? p Antiphony: National Grid Pts 1 + 2 (Gilbert) Decay: I Saved M. I. T. (yes I did) (Lewis) While I'm here: Mesmer Variations: Remesmer (Gilbert) Threw her gewgaw (Lewis) Touch Sampler 3: Voice (Gilbert) All on Touch/Ash International. I think Decay and Sampler 3 (along w/ Antitrade) are the only ones available, but this stuff does turn up on ebay. It is all, just so everyone considering investing knows, very avant garde. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:40:47 -0800 (PST) From: BillyD Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? Hello All, I just found this out from Billboard: Stuart Adamson, former lead singer of Scottish rock act Big Country, was found dead Sunday in a hotel room in Hawaii. He was 43. This was all they said. Billy ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:13:17 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? .worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk it was mentioned here a couple of days ago. a real shame ... never listened much to big country (i don't think i even heard their big us hit, in a big country, until at least half a decade after the fact), but the first skids lp (us version, at least -- didn't hear the uk version till fairly recently, thanks to the cd reissue, & offhand i'd say it's better) is one of my favorite albums, period, esp. calling the tune. dan > Hello All, > I just found this out from Billboard: > > Stuart Adamson, former lead singer of Scottish rock > act Big Country, > was found dead Sunday in a hotel room in Hawaii. He > was 43. > > This was all they said. > > Billy > > > ===== > . ./\/\/\. > [ . . ] > /\ > -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. > http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 > http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com> or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:09:27 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Did I miss someting? Er, yes. It was reported yesterday... Mark << Stuart Adamson, former lead singer of Scottish rock act Big Country, was found dead Sunday in a hotel room in Hawaii. He was 43. This was all they said. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:23:18 +0100 From: "bartvandamme@home" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OUR FRANK... >>> but to recap -- i think his first solo lp was pretty >>> good, while his 2nd (teenager of the year) i regard as an >>> underappreciated >>> gem, one of the best of the '90s. And a BIG amen to THAT! >> For me, with the exception of Los Angeles, the first LP was a massive >> disappointment. Sounded like he was trying to channel the spirit of David >> Bowie or something. Bowie? Weird, I hear more Beach Boys in it! And I like it a lot! >> What little bits I heard from the next few albums >> convinced me that I was better off looking elsewhere. I found the Breeders >> axis to be more in line with my tastes. I can imagine people had to get used to a solo FB after 5 outstanding Pixies albums, but as I said earlier, for me his solo stuff was still better than lots of other related releases and his first two I rate in the same league as the last two Pixies albums. >> (Although, I'll probably pick up >> Teenager of the Year at some point.) Phew... your soul is safe now! > I've got to agree with Dan on this one: FRANK BLACK was rippingly good, > and TEENAGER OF THE YEAR sublime. I think I had TEENAGER in the car > rotation for over two years. Over twenty hooky songs that don't outlive > their welcome (PINK FLAG, anyone?), insane variety of subjects and musical > approaches, ahhhhhh. Just the other day I turned two non-believers to the Frank-camp [with Teenager] so now my place in Pixies-heaven must secure! O;-) > The only real disappointment (IMO of course) in the FB solo catalog was the > next album, the uninspired THE CULT OF RAY. I agree it is the least of Frank's albums, but it has it's moments... > Having said that, I will admit > that I'm not as thrilled by the FB & the Catholics albums as a lot of other > people were -- there's some great songs on those albums, but the first ones > miss the instrumental textures of Eric Drew Feldman, and somehow his return > on DOG IN THE SAND doesn't really change the equation much. There's a > samey-ness of sound on the Catholics records; maybe it has to do with what > Paul says about the limitations of the "live to two-track" approach, though > there's no reason that properly *arranged* that you couldn't make a rich, > varied sound using the same production method. To me it seems that with the Catholics records Frank wanted to capture the rougher spirit of the early Pixies recordings, but of course they were much more original, theatrical and feverish. But I still like it enormously. I still think that with Doolittle Frank's [and Kim's] craftmanship and originality peaked. Bart http://www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] Oblique Strategies The fifth revised edition of Brian Eno' Oblique Strategies are now available direct from Opal Ltd. Cheques psayable to Opal Ltd for #30.00 or USD$45.00 Oblique Strategies Offer PO BOX 31500 London W11 3FB UK ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wireviews.org "dreams that money can buy" Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #385 *******************************