From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #372 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, December 7 2001 Volume 04 : Number 372 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] 2001 top 10 [giluz ] Re: FW: [idealcopy] My sympathy to you Brits [MarkBursa@aol.com] AW: [idealcopy] OT - Lali Puna [Woerner Frank ] Re: [idealcopy] IC <-> WC ["bartvandamme@home" ] Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! [RLynn9@aol.co] Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! [MarkBursa@aol] Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! [RLynn9@aol.co] Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! [MarkBursa@aol] [idealcopy] Most influenced last years ["janjnoorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 2001 top 10 on 11/13/01 12:43 PM, kevin eden at wmouk@yahoo.com wrote: > How about an end of year fave top 10. The rules are > that they must be records/cd's released/bought OR > discovered in 2001, therefore allowing any 'old' > records a chance to shine. 1. Present - High Infidelity 2. Eardrum - Side Effects 3. Swim Team #2 4. The Fall - Are You Are Missing Winner 5. Foetus - Flow 6. Silo - Alloy 7. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun (1999?) 8. Club Off Chaos - S/T (1998) 9. dol-lop - Cryptic Audio (1997) 10. Boredoms - Some Are (1998?) plus Robert Wyatt - Shleep (1997) - I bought it when it was released and probably wasn't in a Wyatt mood then - rediscovered it this year. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:25:46 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: [idealcopy] My sympathy to you Brits Not to mention the Nandrolone.... Mark << But as I said, the fact that the players are a bunch of overpaid primadonnas is also part of the problem. Baaaad mentality! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:42:00 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] OT - Lali Puna Hi Robert, I swear, they do sound like modern YMG. Read the posting from giluz where you can find a link with a few soundsamples of Lali Puna or try Morpheus where I downloaded lots of songs. Now I'm checking ebay for the albums. regards, FrankfromBavaria - -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 17:57 An: Woerner Frank; idealcopy@smoe.org Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Lali Puna In a message dated 12/4/01 3:06:06 AM Central Standard Time, Frank.Woerner@nbg.sbs.de writes: << has anyone ever heard of Lali Puna. I downloaded a few songs from morpheus and they sound like a 2001 edition of the young marble giants. Any information would be welcome ... regards, FrankfromBavaria >> I have not heard of them...but i do LOVE the Young Marble Giants...i finally got the cd!... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 16:01:52 +0100 From: "bartvandamme@home" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] IC <-> WC > Not to mention the Nandrolone.... > > Mark Rub it in Mark... it's a pityfull bunch indeed! Bart [hmmm... now wich country could I emigrate to?] www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:42:50 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! In a message dated 12/5/01 10:26:37 PM Central Standard Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: << and being a bit of a factory records fanatic, i like to hear all the related stuff. so, i think i'll avoid the ones that came after united kingdoms, unless they turn up cheap somewhere...and the search for the early ones continues... -paul c.d. >> well you are the man i need to answer a question...I just saw a Wake cd in my local shop and i noticed it was on Factory Records...Is this band worth my time? is this cd worth my time? It is not a used cd so it will cost me $15.99...what do you think? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:09:57 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! Robert, << well you are the man i need to answer a question...I just saw a Wake cd in my local shop and i noticed it was on Factory Records...Is this band worth my time? is this cd worth my time? It is not a used cd so it will cost me $15.99...what do you think? >> Which album? Is it the new LTM reissue of Harmony? I don't think any of the Factory stuff ever came out on CD.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:33:03 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! In a message dated 12/6/01 10:09:57 AM Central Standard Time, Mark Bursa writes: << Which album? Is it the new LTM reissue of Harmony? I don't think any of the Factory stuff ever came out on CD.... Mark >> yes it is Harmony and it has a peel session included as well as some bonus tracks.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:20:18 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (OT) Ultramarine/Cabs/Bunnymen/Wyatt/Yeah! Robert, Well worth buying. That album and the second one (Here comes everybody) are both good ones. James Nice at LTM is reissuing all the rest of the Wake's stuff next year. The peel session features one Robert Gillespie on bass! Mark << yes it is Harmony and it has a peel session included as well as some bonus tracks.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:58:43 +0100 From: "janjnoorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Most influenced last years Here is my contribution to nicest bought ceedees last year 1 Fennesz - Endless summer (MEGO) 2 Brian Eno - Drawn from life 3 Silo - Alloy (Swim) 4 Pan Sonic - Aaltopiiri (Blast First) 5 Magnetophone (4AD) 6 Biosphere - Substrata 2 (Touch) 7 Hazard - Wind (Ash international) 8 Neu - Neu 2 9 Click and Cuts 2 (Milles Plateaux) 10 Symptoms - Apathy (Swim) Off Topic Kronos Quartet - Requiem for Adam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:25:37 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: [idealcopy] [OFF TOPIC] Jaz Coleman interview Is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_1679000/1679 442.stm As an American, I haven't heard too many interviews with him. The guy's an interesting interview. Cheers, Paul *********************************************************** Brain: "Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" Pinky: "I think so Brain, but can the gummy worms really live in peace with the marshmallow chips?" Paul Pietromonaco Test Engineer - Reflection X WRQ, Inc. E-Mail: paulp@wrq.com *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:46:29 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: [idealcopy] [Slightly OFF TOPIC] Angela Conway and the Smashing Pumpkins? Hi everyone, I was looking at the track listing of the new Smashing Pumpkins video collection, and I noticed that Angela Conway directed the first five videos or so. I'm not sure precisely how many videos she directed, since I have the disc on order and I haven't received it yet. I was just browsing the new DVD section at a local Tower Records and noticed her name in the credits. Anyone know much about these videos, or how she hooked up with them? Cheers, Paul P.S. Is there a website that lists all of her work? *********************************************************** Brain: "Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" Pinky: "I think so Brain, but can the gummy worms really live in peace with the marshmallow chips?" Paul Pietromonaco Test Engineer - Reflection X WRQ, Inc. E-Mail: paulp@wrq.com *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:56:25 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: the wake on cd In a message dated 12/6/01 10:42:50 AM, RLynn 9 writes: > >well you are the man i need to answer a question...I just saw a Wake cd >in my local shop and i noticed it was on Factory Records...Is this band >worth my time? is this cd worth my time? It is not a used cd so it will >cost me $15.99...what do you think? is it the harmony +bonus tracks cd on les temps moderne? i'll be getting that very soon. i have the vinyl, but it is well worth repurchasing on cd just for the bonus tracks. imo, the wake were the most underrated factory band. the harmony album and other early work should appeal to jd/no fans with open minds. i know you've got an open mind, robert, so if you're a fan of early new order especially... :o) great news for factory fans is there are more cds to come from les temps moderne by the wake and stockholm monsters. add those to the recent releases by the names, crispy ambulance, josef k, and section 25, and oh boy! i need to get a third job :o\ - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:02:54 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: the wake on cd In a message dated 12/6/01 9:56:25 PM Central Standard Time, Eardrumbuz writes: > i know you've got an open mind, robert, so if you're a fan of early new > order especially... :o)>>>> Thanks Paul! > > << moderne by the wake and stockholm monsters. add those to the recent > releases by the names, crispy ambulance, josef k, and section 25, and oh > boy! i need to get a third job :o\>>>> OUCH! me too!...I've always wanted the Section 25 stuff on CD...i don't even own the lps...just a few 12"s Robert > Now Playing: Squarepusher- "Music is A Rotted One Note"...Man, this cd is > waaaay better than i remembered! If you like "electric" Miles Davis era > stuff like On the Corner, In A Silent Way, Nefertiti, Sorcerer, and Get Up > With It..or even the great trilogy by Herbie Hancock: > Mwandishi/Crossings/Sextant...then you are sure to LOVE this!!! no ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #372 *******************************