From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #350 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, November 17 2001 Volume 04 : Number 350 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] ON-topic! 2000 Seattle show [giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ON-topic! 2000 Seattle show on 11/16/01 8:44 PM, Miles Goosens at outdoorminer@mindspring.com wrote: > While I did remember an undercurrent of idealcopy grumblings about Chicago > and Boston, I didn't remember any negative on-list comments from The Chicago gig was available on video streaming somewhere on the net at that time. Does anyone know where it was and if it's still there? Watched it at work then and it was great. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:21:56 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT, long] Momus Miles, << Paul's comment started me thinking, "where did Paul give up on him," so I started counting the albums out and this was the result. So I'll foist this upon the list for further study and edification... >> You missed 0 - The Happy Family - the man on your street Pre-Momus Currie's vaguely conceptual guitar pop album, made with Josef K's rhythm section. Sounds like a less spiky (and hence not as good) JK with very wordy lyrics. On 4AD too, with whom it sat very strangely. Josef K. Now there was a band. Mark Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:30:37 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ON-topic! 2000 Seattle show > > While I did remember an undercurrent of idealcopy grumblings about Chicago > > and Boston, I didn't remember any negative on-list comments from > > The Chicago gig was available on video streaming somewhere on the net at > that time. Does anyone know where it was and if it's still there? Watched it > at work then and it was great. > The Seattle show was amazing. You know, I might just have to finish that review I started...(^_^) http://www.weasel-bot.com/seattle (The "this is quite a different venue" is a quote from Bruce Gilbert, by the way. That would be in my review, if I ever finish it! (^_^)) I think the concert is still on Supersphere. Look here: http://www.supersphere.com/Club/Archive/?ID=9 and search down the page for Wire. When I click on the link, I get this: http://www.supersphere.com/play/web2.supersphere.com/Content/TV/wire.rm but it doesn't seem to play right now. I do have a copy of the 100 Meg RM file, if this doesn't ever work. I can put it somewhere where members of the Ideal Copy can grab it. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:28:24 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT, long] Momus At 02:21 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: >You missed > >0 - The Happy Family - the man on your street > >Pre-Momus Currie's vaguely conceptual guitar pop album, made with Josef K's >rhythm section. Sounds like a less spiky (and hence not as good) JK with very >wordy lyrics. On 4AD too, with whom it sat very strangely. I would have compared it to a less spiky Gang of Four or Au Pairs (and hence not as good) with very wordy lyrics that are considerably less profound than Nick thought they were at the time. But I've never heard Josef K, so Mark may be more on target, esp. given the JK involvement with the album. Anyway, it's considerably less than essential. If you find one, the best you can do with it is to sell it on eBay to a Momus completist! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:06:48 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: too numerous to list >A few years ago Eno composed the music for Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere BBC >mini-series. Neil answered a faq on his site, www.neilgaiman.com, saying >that excerpts from the soundtrack appear on Eno's last album. Does anyone >know which album is that? Well, if it is his last album it's Drawn From Life. Much of Spinner was taken from a soundtrack he wrote for a (never finished) Jarman film--radically re-worked. There's no note (I'm almost sure) on any Eno album of this film as a source. It is not from any of his art space recording. >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: KLF > >the tate is , i guess , britains premiere modern art gallery. or at least the most famous. No trip to England is complete w/out the Tate! >From: "bartvandamme@home" >Hmmm, I quite liked both Dirty & Experimetal Jet Set, but then again I quite >like mostly all of their stuff. I like them fine--Goo too. Just not as much others (low point being a relative term) >From: "Jerry" >Subject: [idealcopy] Opinions > >All Sonic Youth sucks. That's my opinion... And a well expressed opinion it is. I miss Grahame already. >From: RLynn9@aol.com > commercial suicide cd > insiding 3cd boxset >> > >Really Paul? Here in my hometown (St.Louis, Missouri USA) i see Commercial >Suicide on cd pretty regularly (used for $8.99)....I just saw the Insiding 3 >cd boxset go for fairly cheap on ebay 1. Any copy you see you should buy immediately (at that price). Believe me, someone will buy it from you. 2. Define cheap. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:19:52 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Hey! Let's talk about which mindless 80s pop song is the best! Graeme was issued a yellow >card, not a red. But instead, he chose to leave the match. Does that surprise you? Not me. >Anyone needing a Graeme fix to tide them over can visit his excellent >website at http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine/ or drop him a line at >crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk. I have--with the intension of trying to get him to come back. If I fail to do so, I'll probably join him. I already skim through all the "80s pop stuff", which was mostly what the list was before he came, and probably what will be left after he's gone. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:51:40 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT, long] Momus Miles, << I would have compared it to a less spiky Gang of Four or Au Pairs (and hence not as good) with very wordy lyrics that are considerably less profound than Nick thought they were at the time. But I've never heard Josef K, so Mark may be more on target, esp. given the JK involvement with the album.<< It's very much along JK lines, but without the Haig/Ross twin paintstripper guitars. Certainly nowhere near as funky as either Go4 or AuPairs. As for the K, Imagine a hyperactive garage band Television. Well worth checking out, though I think even the LTM reissues are all long gone. One of the best live bands I have ever seen. >>Anyway, it's considerably less than essential. If you find one, the best you can do with it is to sell it on eBay to a Momus completist! >> Or indeed a Josef K completist ;-) Not essential if you're looking at it from a Momus perspective, but as a slab of early 80s indie it stands up pretty well. I'd say it was well worth having. It sold in minuscule copies - there used to be loads of them in Record & Tape Exchange in Notting Hill, discounted all the way down. (They knock a pound off the price every week, and carry on knocking 20p a time off once it gets below #1. I think I paid 20p for my copy!) Mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #350 *******************************