From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #312 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 04 : Number 312 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] TWO NEW LISTS [kevin eden ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: [ot] mercy ["Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] TWO NEW LISTS Back from a good holiday and a further clear out of stuff. Two lists: one set sale, the other an auction (rarities). Mostly all vinyl. To request list(s) simply state: SET and/or AUCTION. Instructions are in the respective lists. cheers ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:28:06 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: [ot] mercy > Mileta, > > << shame about Leeds yesterday, when they will have winning mentality > they will beat anyone...<< > > Oh come on, a point from Anfield is a point won, not two points lost. We've > taken four points out of six from away games at Liverpool and Arsenal. I'm > happy with that. yes, but i am not sure that all LU players will second that opinion.. when other half of player will think that LU will be giant.. > > >>i think it is " missing link ", like Roma few years ago... > fantastic players, but ... > still, think they will won the championship >> > > We're still two or three players away from a squad to really compete for the > title. We need another striker - but we can't buy one as we have four - > hopefully Michael bridges will be back before the end of the season. We could > do with a right-sided midfielder (Kieron Dyer??...Trevor Sinclair??) and > another central midfielder (Seth Johnson??...Sebastian Deisler??) > > Lots of rumours, but no transfer action!! well, i think that central forward like Kezman who is now in PSV is what LU need !!! Near Viduka ( strong one ) he will be in chance to scored as much as possible.. shame that rumour said that he is already signed to Juventus ( who will destroyed one more player.. ) > > I think the target this year is a Champions League place, and a trophy of > some kind would be a bonus. > Yes, i can agree with that, but it will be shame.. my brother and myself discussed last night and agree that LU together with Deportivo and Valencia ( when couch will not stopped them with too defansive tactics ) and Roma when is in full flight is best eye-catching-team in Europe.. MU it seems to be back, but we will see.. thanx on transfer info.. what is your opinion on possible Yorke - Fawler change... here on continent rumours are every day loudly that Owen is already in Calcio.. i think that Liverpool want to get as musch as possible offer... mileta > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 06:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A bell is a cup until it is struck > I don't know if that's what you meant, but the > Magritte's statement is that > you're not looking at an actual pipe, but at the > representation of a pipe (this > is not a pipe, but an image of a pipe). In our > society we're more often looking > at the representation of things (be it through TV, > posters, pictures, etc.) than > at the real things. This is one of the basic > argument of the postmodern > philosophy, but don't get me into that please... Still relies on the pedagogic imperative that this is not a pipe. If I say it's a pipe, why isn't it a pipe? These bloody postmodern aesthetes, I don't know. Additional answer: Am I being ironic? Does anyone know anymore? (Consider the additional answer as a supplement or graft cf. Jacques Derrida, Of Grammatology.) Or something like that. Which brings us back to representation. 8-) John Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:57:55 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V4 #310 >> I knew someone on one of the trade center planes. I do not wish to read one >> more presumptuous commentary from an ignoramous about how they deserved it, >> or the US is to blame; or some other half witted horseshit. >> >> Joel >> > >I agree in principle but I don't think anyone said anything to that effect >and noone intended to insult the memory of anyone who tragically died that >day - if anyone took offence I don't think it's the right place. I completely agree with Joel, and I find the idea that as we pull the bodies out of the wreckage we should contemplate what we did to deserve this rather offensive. Whoever is responsible for America's wrong doings (and I've never denied they exist) I feel fairly certain were not on those planes or in those towers. I also agree w/ those who feel this list is not a particularly good place for this particular discussion, so, while I couldn't resist this one comment, I'll leave it at that. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:38:47 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TWO NEW LISTS last night's listening: Coil - Constant Shallowness Leads to Evil Black Light District (Coil) Thousand Lights in a Darkend Room Oren Ambarchi - Suspension Rehberg and Bauer - Passt Legendary Pink Dots - Crushed Velvet Apocalypse Edward Ka Spel - The Blue Room Playing right now: Lisa Carbon - Trio De Janiero.....didn't think i'd like this but i really do....guess i'm just in a goofy mood..... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: BillyD Subject: [idealcopy] You can't keep ELO off this list! my final comment Can't you guys get up to date? I've had this cd for months. Sounds like ELO. They are already touring in the States and I saw a recent concert of theirs on PBS in August. (good show) Cheers, Billy - --- PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 13/10/01 16:14:12 GMT Daylight > Time, andrew@lumbard.co.uk > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aaaaarrggggghhhhhhh........and we though the > Simple Minds covers album was a > > bad enough concept :-) > > > > In celebration of a new ELO album ("Zoom" due in > July) and touring for the > > band this summer and fall, Not Lame is proud to > announce this excellent > > collection of Lynne's songs...... > > > > ///// well hey , i will certainly be buying that. > in a local paper i saw an > > ad for a great sounding gig , a few lesser members > of ELO have teamed up > > with a "real" orchestra and are doing a tour of > "orchestral interpretations > > of ELO's finest moments". no jeff sadly , but i'm > sure still well worth a ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:57:46 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sad gig of the day mark hollis did a solo cd (just called "mark hollis" i think , very much along the lines of latterday talk talk). he claimed he was quitting after that , but who knows? so whch one of the rods was his brother? i think in the early (crappy) talk talk line up there was MH's brother ; maybe a different one? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:54:07 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sad gig of the day > mark hollis did a solo cd (just called "mark hollis" i think , very much along the lines of latterday talk talk). he claimed he was quitting after that , but who knows? yeah..thanx. i like that one, but heard some rumours that he will re-activate again.. friend of mine had O'Rang CD but never find enough time to hear that.. i am intersting in yr.opinion.. he is sometime clumsy to describe some music, friend describe it as with techno influence... can it be true, mark with solo album made even quiter than last few of Talk Talk.. > thanx mileta ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:11:16 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sad gig of the day Mileta, << can it be true, mark with solo album made even quiter than last few of Talk Talk.. >> Oh yes. Imagine Spirit of Eden played entirely on acoustic instruments. I guess he works in his own time - so expect a new album around 2008. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:36:03 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] OT: help with cd burning hey everyone i am currently experiencing a *hell* of a lot of cdr burning problems, so if anyone has any suggestions for me they would be greatly appreciated. i know there is a bunch of tech people here. basically, i keep getting errors writing to the disc, to the point where i have to start over again and again with a new disc. today, it hit meltdown, as i went through like 10 cdrs trying to record one stupid bsides compilation. the programs i use are cd spin doctor and nero burning rom, and my external cd burner goes through a pcmia card slot. is burning significantly better/reliable if is done through the parrellel port instead? usually i am copying wav files to cd. anyone have ideas about the source of the errors? i have a sneaking suspicion it could be the burner itself :( ~michael, one frustrated guy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:57:39 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Re:Fridge Theft, Warp Death and Britney Cowardice Rant Bad luck Fridge. I wonder if the robbers will form their own over-rated post-rock combo with all that gear? I also read from the same website this came from, that Rob, one of the founders of Warp Records died of cancer last week. Thankyou for the music Rob! Rest in Bleep. On checking the facts of this on the NME website I find that Britney Spears has cancelled her tour and cancelled an appearance on the Jay Leno show cos she thinks she'll get Anthrax. What a f**king waste of skin you are Britney. A pointless, f**king wet piece of lettuce with no guts, and no talent at a time when everyone else in the world is touring, gigging, writing, digging, building, re-building, planning, spending, flying, f**king and fixing and above all working there arses off with shedloads of courage to get this sh*tty excuse for a world back to something like normal. I f**king despair I really do! At 04:30 15/10/01 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:16:51 +0100 (BST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= >Subject: [idealcopy] FRIDGE9S EQUIPMENT STOLEN ON US TOUR > >NB. Fridge is one of Colin's favourite bands... > >** Please circulate this information as widely as >possible ** > >Fridge (Kieran Hebden, Sam Jeffers, Adem Ilhan) had >all their equipment stolen on the day of the first gig >of their US tour, scheduled to begin in Arlington, MA >on Thursday 11 October. It9s the band9s first venture >into the US - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #312 *******************************