From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #294 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, September 28 2001 Volume 04 : Number 294 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Very very OT... [Bart ] FW: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling [giluz ] Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling [Bart ] Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] [idealcopy] Re:viral ["ray\)\(o\)\(mac" ] Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re:viral [giluz ] [idealcopy] Language virus [Joseph S ] Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:viral [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [none] ["Mats Hammerman" ] [idealcopy] last night i listened to: [kevin eden ] [idealcopy] holiday [kevin eden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:42:02 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Very very OT... > minny pops Paul, Here you might find some more info: http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/minnyhis.html Cheers, Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:57:06 +0300 From: giluz Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling on 28/9/01 6:40 AM, dan bailey at dpbailey@worldnet.att.net wrote: > But, as the great L. Anderson said: "Language is a >> virus" [is she from scandinavian origin?] > > > didn't the great w. burroughs same the same thing (or something very similar > ... perhaps along the lines of information being a virus) several years > earlier? > > dan > And that's where she took it from - Anderson also collaborated with burroughs in that period. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:01:12 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling > 28-09-2001 05:40 Dan, Are you a day ahead of us, or is the time-difference that big? Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:04:09 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga >Since the early 80-ies hes been the frontfigure of bands like Cortex, >Mobile Whorehouse, Blue for two, Fldskkvartetten among others. Fldskkvartetten? How do you pronounce this? (shudder) Seven consonants in a row is just too much for me... Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 06:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] The future of Wireviews As some of you are probably aware, Wireviews is being rebuilt at the moment for a final update later this year (after which minor changes like news and new reviews will be added). There will be a change of design, domain (www.wireviews.org) and a reorganisation of the structure, but in terms of actual content, if anyone has ideas about what they would like to see on the site, now is the time to tell me. Note that audio/video clips are *not* an option unless someone is willing to host them! I have very little room left on Snub Communications, so I'm thinking mostly text-based stuff and maybe some images. Best Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://listen.to/veer SVA: http://welcome.to/snub - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:11:14 -0500 From: "ray\)\(o\)\(mac" Subject: [idealcopy] Re:viral William Burroughs indeed said: "Language is a virus ... from outer space" This fit in nicely with Bryon Gysin's *somewhat* misogynistic theory (very roughly paraphrased) that the disolution of reason and civilization began when Eve said "hello" to Adam. I need to reread The Word to get it a little better. Laurie Anderson is of Swedish heritage (Anderson, get it) but I beleive she is America born and bred. ... So who was the first Swede? ... The third? ... Swedes in Varberg are advised to visit Nitanaldi and say hi to Lars from Davidmack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:25:00 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling In a message dated 9/27/01 3:50:29 AM, bart@adrem.nl writes: >as the great L. Anderson said: "Language is a >virus" [is she from scandinavian origin?] i thought she was of new jersey origin - -paul c.d. p.s. thanks bart, i've visited frank brinkhuis' site many times...i would love to find out more about nasmak, smalts, and especially a blaze color, but the only sites i've found are not in english. any tips, anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:19:59 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga > >Since the early 80-ies hes been the frontfigure of bands like Cortex, > >Mobile Whorehouse, Blue for two, Fldskkvartetten among others. > ///well i like the sound of mobile whorehouse ; what were they like? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:31:22 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: In a message dated 9/27/01 2:23:59 AM Central Daylight Time, wmouk@yahoo.com writes: << Can - Monster Movie This Heat - Live at Krefeld ===== kevin eden >> This Heat is one of the artists that i have criminally left unexplored....i am ashamed of myself...Do fellow Ideal Copyists have any suggestions for me? For reference, i am much more into soundscapes and musique concrete as well as the Gilbert and Lewis solo stuff.....Thanks for any help..... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:14:32 +0300 From: giluz Subject: [idealcopy] Re:viral on 27/9/01 4:11 PM, ray)(o)(mac at dmack2002@yahoo.com wrote: > William Burroughs indeed said: > "Language is a virus ... from outer space" > This fit in nicely with Bryon Gysin's *somewhat* misogynistic theory (very > roughly paraphrased) that the disolution of reason and civilization began > when Eve said "hello" to Adam. I need to reread The Word to get it a little > better. > > Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash uses ancient assyrian mythology and computers to construct his own language virus, a sort of basic universal language that you can actually program people with. If language is a virus what is art? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:05:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph S Subject: [idealcopy] Language virus ///But, as the great L. Anderson said: "Language is a >virus" [is she from scandinavian origin?] didn't the great w. burroughs same the same thing (or something very similar ... perhaps along the lines of information being a virus) several years earlier? //// Indeed Burroughs said it first and appears on the albums on which Anderson's song Language Is A Virus appears, United States Live and Mr. Hearbreak. He also does the vocals for Sharkey's Night on Mr. Heartbreak. He was a big inspiration for Ms. Anderson and was part of a tour in 80 or 81 that also featured John Giorno (check out the document of that tour, You're The Guy I want To Spend My My Spend My Money With (or something to that effect). ~dwei pfennigs from Joseph dan - ------------------------------ - - - - - - - - - To feed men and not to love them is to treat them as if they were barnyard cattle. To love them and not respect them is to treat them as if they were household pets. -Mencius, philosopher (c. 380-289 BCE) _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:11:20 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling & they say (correctly, most of the time) that arkansas is always at least 5 years behind the times ... odd how that happened, since my time/date setting seems to be correct as i type this. dan >> 28-09-2001 05:40 > >Dan, > >Are you a day ahead of us, or is the time-difference that big? > > >Bart > >www.bartvandamme.com >bartvandamme@home.nl >bart@adrem.nl >icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:02:18 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:viral In a message dated 9/27/01 12:17:20 PM, giluz@netvision.net.il writes: > >If language is a virus what is art? a tumor? - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:03:14 From: "Mats Hammerman" Subject: [none] Oh... Many questions. Heres some replies: Bart wrote: >I only heard some of Wadling's work visiting my [also dutch] friend who lives in Stockholm [and who's also into Wire]. I'm sure I have some stuff on tape, but I don't play tapes that much anymore. :-) What I remembered I quite liked though. Maybe I wil check out FQ - it sounds just like a combination I might like. Yes. check out Fleshquartet. To answer your question Giluz they also have a swedish name - Flaskkvartetten ( but the first "a" is an a with two dots above which made the mailprogram go wild and created a interesting word with seven syllables... >Graham Lewis, he used to live in Sweden, didn't he? Still does? Perhaps you have some information about this? Cheers, As far as I know he stills lives in Uppsala, about 100 kilometers north of Stockholm. I have some friends who have worked with him but unfortenately I have never met him myselve. PaulRabjohn wrote: ///well i like the sound of mobile whorehouse ; what were they like? p Cant really recall. Wery noisy and to my opinion one of the few albums to avoid. It might have worked out fine live but not on record. Davidmack wrote: So who was the first Swede? Actually I think I was the first one but I think that there is one more nowadays on the list. All the best Mats _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: Cluster - First encounter (live in USA 1996) ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] holiday WMO (UK) will be offline from 29th September until 15th October. Going on holiday. ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #294 *******************************