From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #293 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, September 27 2001 Volume 04 : Number 293 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] DISCOvering Wire [Bart ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V4 #289 [Bart ] Re: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga ["Mats Hammerman" ] [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling [Bart ] Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling ["dan bailey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:12:06 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DISCOvering Wire > John : But I daresay that there are all kinds of ways of > discovering Wire. Summer of 1978: One adolescent-lazy-sunday-afternoon a friend of a friend brought the Pink Flag album to our weekly music-listen sessions and I was immediatly struck. The music and the artwork were something completely new to me. The feeling a lot of my friends had with the Pistols/Clash I had with Pink Flag. A fresh new start. Truely the soundtrack of my coming-of-age ritual [that was only matched years later with me turning into my 30's in the good company of the Pixies] The first album I got was Chairs Missing wich was just released. It was amazing to witness their musical progress in such a short time. What the Beatles took a small decade to conquer Wire seemed to do in 3 years! Building and burning bridges. What an accomplisment! Their breaking up seemed sad but logical at the time. Of course I embrased the eighties Wire [hell, some of their best songs are from that decade] but to me it feels more like warm brotherly love than the burning passion I felt for the first tryptich. How that for you IC-ers? Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:26:24 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V4 #289 > D'oh! > > > The Prince of Happiness > "Made sacrifice your key to paradise > Never mind, take the world by storm > Just boogaloo a rhapsody divine"-Roxy Music, "Pyjamarama" You're Roxy quotation made me go and listen to a couple of their albums. GREAT stuff!!! And what a unique voice/style mr. Ferry has!!! I esspecially like their earlier stuff, when the songs still have that haunting quality. My girlfriend likes the 80's Roxy [more romantic, I guess?] best. Cheers, Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:25:54 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: In a message dated 9/26/01 2:28:33 AM Central Daylight Time, wmouk@yahoo.com writes: << Technical Space Composers Crew (aka Holger Czukay / Ralf Dammers) - Canaxis 5 (original version. Not the Spoon reissue, remixed and shorter) >> where did you find that?!.......i bet that is something to have as for my last night's listening...it was a looong night due to some insomnia: Main - Hz Biosphere- Strata Tod Dockstader - Apocalypse Pete Namlook & Richie Hawtin - From Within (vol1) Conrad Schnitzler - Con Brio cheers! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:17:40 From: "Mats Hammerman" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga Freddie Wadling - a Swedish Nick Cave . Hm. Quite close. He started out as singer and bassplayer in a furious punk band with two drummers called Liket Lever (Living Corpse) who did a marvellous single called Levande Begravd (buried alive)in 1979. As you might have guessed Mr. Wadling is quite interested in the darker aspects of human life and therefore the comparison with Nick Cave is quite suitable. He also posesses a really magical voice with tons of feeling. Since the early 80-ies hes been the frontfigure of bands like Cortex, Mobile Whorehouse, Blue for two, Fldskkvartetten among others. He have also done some soloalbums, the two latest with traditional swedish tunes that get a special edge by his voice. Probably unlistnable by non-swedes but if you want to try something try Fldskkvartetten/Fleshquartet - a stringquartet with a mad drummer and freddie or if you more into syntbased, something with Blue for two. He must have at least have 20 albums out by now. Few of them is good all the way trough but there is lots of fantastical gems on all of them. If I have to chose something it would be FQ - Whats your pleasure? Oh i got carried away there I think... All the best Mats, the second swede on the list. >From: Bart >To: >Subject: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:28:55 +0200 > > > Re. 'Eyes Fly' & my allegation that Lewis was doing a Yarwood on Bowie; >Graeme > > Rowland observed... > > > > "I can't look at the CD to check right now, but I think > > someone else is singing on that track!" > > > > And he's right. In the small print, the track in question is described >as > > 'Duet with Freddie Wadling'. > > >"Freddie Wadling" Isn't he the swedish Nick Cave? >Any IC-ers from Sweden btw? > >Bart _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:40:22 From: "Mats Hammerman" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga John Cloud is an american living in Sweden who also have done some records and he used to be A&R at MNW - the largest Swedish indiependant label. He also lives in Uppsala as Lewis and was also the reason behind that MNW released HALO. Just for your information Mats .... >'Duet with Freddie Wadling'. It's also possible that the Geordie >impersonation on 'So Sick & Tired...' that Howard Spencer refers to could >be >accounted for by the credit 'Additional Madman: John Cloud'. If, that is, >these are real people and not pseudonyms behind which Lewis can pursue his >secret agenda of trying to get a gig with the Barron Knights. > >(Note for younger readers: 'Yarwood' = entertainer who impersonated people; >B.Knights = group who impersonated other groups. Ah, those were the days.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:51:18 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Very very OT: Urchins Anyone has any information on the band The Urchins? I have an album by them. Can't say I like their original songs too much (except maybe for "Take me away"), but they cover David Byrne's "Enabler" and do a *stunning* cover of "I woke up in love" (yes, originally by no one else but Partridge Family). Really really stunning one - I didn't know where it came from and thought it was a great original song. If you are laughing, this is miles better than the Partridge's original. So, does anyone know anything about Urchins? Did they release anything else? Did they go to form other bands? Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:41:58 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Very very OT... as long as we're inquiring about other music, would anyone have info on the plurex label, specifically nexda, smalts, and especially a blaze color. i once heard the label was the project of minny pops guy wally van middendorp, which sounds about right, but that's all i heard. anything else, more specific to the named bands would be appreciated. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:22:43 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: Can - Monster Movie This Heat - Live at Krefeld ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:49:20 +0200 From: Bart Subject: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling > Freddie Wadling - a Swedish Nick Cave . Thanks for the info Mats... I only heard some of Wadling's work visiting my [also dutch] friend who lives in Stockholm [and who's also into Wire]. I'm sure I have some stuff on tape, but I don't play tapes that much anymore. :-) What I remembered I quite liked though. Maybe I wil check out FQ - it sounds just like a combination I might like. "Levande Begravd". In dutch that would be "Levend Begraven" So many simularities between the dutch and swedish language. [sometimes even more than dutch - german] But, as the great L. Anderson said: "Language is a virus" [is she from scandinavian origin?] Graham Lewis, he used to live in Sweden, didn't he? Still does? Perhaps you have some information about this? Cheers, Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 > Freddie Wadling - a Swedish Nick Cave . > Hm. Quite close. > He started out as singer and bassplayer in a furious punk band with two > drummers called Liket Lever (Living Corpse) who did a marvellous single > called Levande Begravd (buried alive)in 1979. As you might have guessed Mr. > Wadling is quite interested in the darker aspects of human life and > therefore the comparison with Nick Cave is quite suitable. He also posesses > a really magical voice with tons of feeling. Since the early 80-ies hes been > the frontfigure of bands like Cortex, Mobile Whorehouse, Blue for two, > Fldskkvartetten among others. He have also done some soloalbums, the two > latest with traditional swedish tunes that get a special edge by his voice. > Probably unlistnable by non-swedes but if you want to try something try > Fldskkvartetten/Fleshquartet - a stringquartet with a mad drummer and > freddie or if you more into syntbased, something with Blue for two. He must > have at least have 20 albums out by now. Few of them is good all the way > trough but there is lots of fantastical gems on all of them. > If I have to chose something it would be FQ - Whats your pleasure? > Oh i got carried away there I think... > All the best > Mats, the second swede on the list. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:40:18 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Freddie Wadling But, as the great L. Anderson said: "Language is a >virus" [is she from scandinavian origin?] didn't the great w. burroughs same the same thing (or something very similar ... perhaps along the lines of information being a virus) several years earlier? dan ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #293 *******************************