From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #292 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, September 26 2001 Volume 04 : Number 292 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly ["they.wait" ] [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga ["Garry Phillipson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] [very OT] Akiko Yano Concert in London ["David McKenzie" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:51:50 +0100 From: "they.wait" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly It's duet with Freddie Wadling , whoever he is! J > From: Graeme Rowland > Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:48:18 +0100 (BST) > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly > > I can't look at the CD to check right now, but I think > someone else is singing on that track! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:04:11 +0100 From: "Garry Phillipson" Subject: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga Re. 'Eyes Fly' & my allegation that Lewis was doing a Yarwood on Bowie; Graeme Rowland observed... "I can't look at the CD to check right now, but I think someone else is singing on that track!" And he's right. In the small print, the track in question is described as 'Duet with Freddie Wadling'. It's also possible that the Geordie impersonation on 'So Sick & Tired...' that Howard Spencer refers to could be accounted for by the credit 'Additional Madman: John Cloud'. If, that is, these are real people and not pseudonyms behind which Lewis can pursue his secret agenda of trying to get a gig with the Barron Knights. (Note for younger readers: 'Yarwood' = entertainer who impersonated people; B.Knights = group who impersonated other groups. Ah, those were the days.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:28:55 +0200 From: Bart Subject: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly - the Bowie Saga > Re. 'Eyes Fly' & my allegation that Lewis was doing a Yarwood on Bowie; Graeme > Rowland observed... > > "I can't look at the CD to check right now, but I think > someone else is singing on that track!" > > And he's right. In the small print, the track in question is described as > 'Duet with Freddie Wadling'. "Freddie Wadling" Isn't he the swedish Nick Cave? Any IC-ers from Sweden btw? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:41:01 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eyes Fly << It's duet with Freddie Wadling , whoever he is! >> A mate of Sven's?? Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:21:49 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] [very OT] Akiko Yano Concert in London AY is playing one of her rare Western shows this Thursday at Queen Elizabeth Hall, South Bank, London 7.45pm 27/9/01. THo, she lives in NYC, she rarely performs in the West and never so far West as my home in Chicago. http://www.sbc.org.uk/music/sub_music/performance/14867.html?version=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:33:24 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OGWT and Pop TV Archives > I'd also like a comp of the best bits of Snub TV and The Tube. I know there > are a couple of Snub videos but these are long deleted....you could make a > really good anthology of late 80s'/early90s stuff from that show. KLF, > Dinosaur JR, Spacemen 3, MBV, Wire!, Pixies etc etc.... /////they released 2 compilation vids of snub , one of which had a big wire chunk (kidney/eardrum vids and an interview). but very little tube stuff ever came out that i can recall. > The Tube? Well the clip of XTC performing on 'The Meeting Place' on the set > of The Prisoner got me into both that series and XTC....and there is a > whole treasure trove of great telly dying to be compiled...(albeit > alongside a whole bunch of badly dressed 80s crap involving Paula Yates, > INXS, Terrence Trent Derby, Tina Turner and Phil Collins) ////there were some great performances amongst the crap ; sudden sway , monochrome set , killing joke , smiths and i guess loads more. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:17:18 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] ebay go look at item no 1468455781. a vortex flyer , wire supporting sham 69 (snigger) but above bazooka joe (wonder if that was with adam ant ; thought he'd gone solo by then?) . sounds like one hell of a gig. guy wants $25 for it..... p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:23:44 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] fainting murder city devils >Past 15 years? > >Well: > >The Faint-"blank wave arcade" fine album. they're playing about 3 hours from here next month. having just missed catching them at a tiny gig in the riverside park near my former office last year (thanks to my old midnight shift), i'm tempted to make the trek. >Cobra Verde-"Nightlife" >The Murder City Devils-"Broken Bottles, Empty Hearts" good call -- goth garage, for lack of a better description. this is the one that made me a near-obsessive fan after a former co-worker loaned it to me last year ... the first one's almost as good (love "boom swagger boom"), but the 3rd one hasn't grown on me yet. haven't yet acquired the ep that came out earlier this month. when i brought them up a couple of days ago, my ex-girlfriend (who lives in the town where the faint are supposed to play ... i've never been there despite living 90 percent of my life here in arkansas) advised me that all the scenesters in seattle hate them for having gotten so much media attention, a la the white stripes & detroit's demimonde -- a sure sign of success, i suppose. dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V4 #289 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Prince Of Happiness wrote: > The Faint-"blank wave arcade" Not Danse Macabre? I loved Blank-Wave Arcade, but the new record is a real classic. If you like pop-electro. a - -- FREE FAST FICTION ON DEMAND -- - -- at www.bantha.org/~trap/ltd -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:46:54 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ebay It begs the question as to why Wire were support? Pink Flag must have been either just out or imminent in Oct 77 - and Wire hadd certainly been playing London gigs a lot longer than the corduroy-wearing future ballerina and his Surrey chums... Mark << go look at item no 1468455781. a vortex flyer , wire supporting sham 69 (snigger) but above bazooka joe (wonder if that was with adam ant ; thought he'd gone solo by then?) . sounds like one hell of a gig. guy wants $25 for it..... p >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:46:44 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ebay ////the story adam usually tells about bazooka joe is that after the pistols supported them (first ever pistols gig i think) he realised the game was up and went and formed a punk band (strummer tells a similar tale). that must have been in 76 so i guess this was a post-adam version or alternately that tale of adam's is a bit more wishful thinking. but like you say , hard to believe wire were still 2nd on the bill to the band they called the cockney cowboys by that point. maybe jimmy p was a wire fan and his "challenging" diversions into ballet were a result of exposure to something more artful than his own bands tragic efforts? > > It begs the question as to why Wire were support? Pink Flag must have been either just out or imminent in Oct 77 - and Wire hadd certainly been playing London gigs a lot longer than the corduroy-wearing future ballerina and his Surrey chums... > > Mark > > << go look at item no 1468455781. a vortex flyer , wire supporting sham 69 (snigger) but above bazooka joe (wonder if that was with adam ant ; thought he'd gone solo by then?) . sounds like one hell of a gig. guy wants $25 for it..... p >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:11:43 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Finding Solo Wire >How many people buy solo Wire items naively, ie buying it for what it is rather >than the work of an ex Wire person? Given the lack of coverage that the solo >releases get, I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the solo stuff gets beyond >Wire's loyal fanbase. I certainly found solo Wire, well, through Wire. But right now--and in fact for the last 20 years--I am more interested in their solo works than their group work. It wouldn't particularly surprise me if a few people found Graham and/or Bruce through one of their avant events, or if some found Colin through Swim. I don't KNOW of anyone who did--just saying it's possible. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] Solo into Main Course I can't say that the Wire solo stuff has ever done much for me. But then I'm cloth eared old punk. 8-) But I daresay that there are all kinds of ways of discovering Wire. Lots on the list have discovered them via a goth album that I've never even seen. I actually got into Wire via the Live at the Roxy album. My uncle bought it for me for Xmas. At the time I was only familiar with the Buzzcocks and X Ray Spex. Whilst the music was certainly different I think it was mainly the emphasised disdain (a la Johnny Rotten) and pure *attitude* in the 'Hello, we're Wire' that caught my ear. Mind you I thought Slaughter and the Dogs were f*cking brilliant on that LP too (and still do)! It was some time before I took the plunge and bought a whole Wire album though. The amount of times I stood in Revolver in Leicester with Pink Flag in my hand only to put it back in the rack to buy a couple of UK Subs coloured vinyl 7"s. What put me off? I remember hearing Outdoor Miner on Peel and thinking it was Squeeze. Which is enough to put anyone off parting with their pocket money isn't it? Thankfully I got better i.e. older and ditched the Angelic Upstarts and Cockney Rejects. Happy memories. John Still working on those Top Fives... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:26:12 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: top 5 post-1985 OK, again strictly a "rock" list--does not include solo Gilbert, for example. (I can never resist these things, silly as they may be): 1. Sonic Youth: Daydream Nation 2. Sonic Youth: SYR 1-3 (instrumental jams from 1000 leaves session) 3. King Crimson: Projects Box (again, instrumental work toward their latest lp. I guess right now the process is more interesting to me than the final product.) 4. Nirvana: In Utero (yes, I like that one more) 5. Wir Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: Technical Space Composers Crew (aka Holger Czukay / Ralf Dammers) - Canaxis 5 (original version. Not the Spoon reissue, remixed and shorter) ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #292 *******************************