From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #285 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, September 19 2001 Volume 04 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] [idealcopy] Favourites [P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk] Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] RE: CD-R ["wiremailorder.com" ] [idealcopy] Re: Oh Sod it! lets listen to some tunes! [Rain19c@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Oh Sod it! lets listen to some tunes! [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: MSNBC [Felton Frog-Mon ] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites [Felton Frog-Mon ] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu ["ian jackson" ] [idealcopy] Ubu=Wire ["Brian Young" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu [HeySean@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites [HeySean@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Ubu=Wire=Beefheart ["Steve Loubert" ] Re: [idealcopy] Favourites ["stephen graziano" ] [idealcopy] last night i listened to: [kevin eden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:05:46 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp I bought this yesterday. Wow, this magazine really stinks. It's probably not aimed at me, but if I was into clubbing week in week out I still wouldn't but this mag. The CD is very average, a couple of nice ideas, but not many. It's not really worth the #3.95 I paid for it. By the way, anyone going to the New Order gigs? C The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:58:34 +0100 From: P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk Subject: [idealcopy] Favourites OK, OK, OK. May I make a suggestion? Instead of people sending in these long lists of their fave albums, perhaps it would be better to limit the number - some people seem to be listing their entire record collections! How about "Which FIVE albums would you keep - if you had to get rid of ALL the rest". And stick to the five albums! That way, we might find something to chat about - there are just too many at the moment. I'll start it off, even though it's not an easy task - I admit (I've had to think long and hard about this - but here goes) The FIVE albums I'd "rescue" are (in no particular order): The Residents "Not Available" Clock DVA "Thirst" The Fall "Grotesque" Television Personalities "Chocolat-Art" Tuxedomoon "Solve Et Coagula" Paul. PS I wonder who'll be first to submit a list of five albums, and then go on the say which ones would be next, after those five!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:18:58 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp In a message dated Tue, 18 Sep 2001 5:07:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk writes: > I bought this yesterday. Wow, this magazine really stinks. It's probably not > aimed at me, but if I was into clubbing week in week out I still wouldn't but > this mag. > The CD is very average, a couple of nice ideas, but not many. It's not really > worth the > #3.95 I paid for it. ////does it actually contain a wire loop? > > By the way, anyone going to the New Order gigs? > > C > //////me and mark b are going to brixton on the 11th oct. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:21:17 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp ////does it actually contain a wire loop? It does and it's probably the best bit on the CD. But still not worth getting unless you're a completist. > > By the way, anyone going to the New Order gigs? > > C > //////me and mark b are going to brixton on the 11th oct. p I'm their on 11th too (I think). The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:49:24 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu Syarzhuk, For me, Modern Dance is near-perfect. A stunning album up with the best. Thereafter there's a steady decline, with each album getting progressively worse. Bailing Man is hard going... I'd say Cloudland was the nest of the post-reformation albums by a some distance. Mark << Nice to see Pere Ubu showing up in members' Top X lists. However, it's strange to me that only Modern Dance makes it to the lists. I rate "Song of a bailing man" and "Worlds in collision" at the same high level, if not above "Modern Dance". In any case, I created a Pere Ubu list a while back. Things are quite quiet there right now, hopefully we will pick up traffic with the impending release of Rocket From The Tomb CD. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:59:20 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: CD-R >but I do have several CDRs that I really like; I >have heard they don't last well. True? Should we make cassettes of >them? Best estimates for CD-R lifetime approach the 50 year mark. What I've read is keep them cool and dry. I usually cover the front with a label, adds protection to that side.. charles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:05:46 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Oh Sod it! lets listen to some tunes! tim: >but If you like preposterous, maximalist, OTT >orchestral drone-rock/pop then get this! haha, but its not as proposterous and OTT as the muse album! >"The trouble with the straight & the narrow is I keep >sliding off to the side". i liked the line, "the only time im drug free is when i get my drugs for free" and i am a bit upset the tracklisting was changed..out of sight sounded great as track 2. bah, thats what you get for downloading the thing early. ~michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Oh Sod it! lets listen to some tunes! > Spiritualized - Let it Come Down > Mixed reviews for this one. Well this one won't > convince the many > Spiritualized-haters on this list but I still think > its a belter. The > critics say it isn't as good as the last one....well > to me "Ladies & > Gentlemen..." was a rather patchy record, whereas > this is a big, classic > pop record in the spirit of Brian Wilson/Phil > Spector! They've followed the > same warped-Pop direction that Mercury Rev have > taken and to my ears have > made a better job. > Its laden with hooks and peaks, manic pop thrills, > Beach Boys harmonies, > Krautrock-style trance-outs, sleazy rock & roll, and > the last number is a > great version of Spacemen 3 track 'Lord Can You Hear > Me' done as duet by > Jason with Mimi from Low. > Its big....maybe its not that clever...but If you > like preposterous, > maximalist, OTT orchestral drone-rock/pop then get > this! > Someone said The Stooges for Airports.....I say its > ELO being forced to > deputise for The Velvets in a particularly sordid > night at the Factory. > > "The trouble with the straight & the narrow is I > keep sliding off to the side". > Spiritualized and the Velvet Underground and/or Stooges comparable? Heresy. I've heard this album as my partner got a prerelease copy and to me it sounds what it is - a load of rich knobs from Rugby trying to do the Stones/Velvets. As for the line re: trouble staying on the straight and narrow... if only we all had the problems that poor old Jason has. Round these parts Spiritualized are known as 'Tarquin and the Posh Boys'. I just wish he would f*ck off and get a life tbh. Preferably not in a band. Sorry Tim! John __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:10:27 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dan's Top 60 > rudimentary peni -- extremely atypical anarchopunk. > imagine a great goth > album played at 45 rpm, pretty much ... by no means > thrashy (which their 2 > 7"s were), but very energetic & forceful dirges. Pretty good description. I'd recommend the second proper album Cacophony too. Not so song structured with lots of fiddly 'weird' bits. A sort of concept album about Edgar Allen Poe if you can imagine such a thing. John __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu > For me, Modern Dance is near-perfect. A stunning > album up with the best. > Thereafter there's a steady decline, with each album > getting progressively > worse. Bailing Man is hard going... > > I'd say Cloudland was the nest of the > post-reformation albums by a some > distance. Agree with Modern Dance comment. I do like Bailing Man tho even if anyone I play it to says it sounds 'sooooo eighties'. The post reformation albums: I agree Cloudland is an excellent album but I'd also agree with whoever liked Worlds in Collision. There are some v strong tracks on these even if the production/arrangements are, shall we say, rather mainstream. This more poppy/folky side of the band is presented alongside the more shall we say avant garde aspect of the band on the two most recent studio albums Raygun Suitcase and Pennyslvania and at the recent gig at the RFH. You can pick Modern Dance up at mid price now and Cooking Vinyl the UK label has various promotions at times where you can pick the most recent albums up for something like mid price - you may have to subscribe to the Cooking Vinyl list for this benefit. http://www.cookingvinyl.com/ I actually picked up both CDs as a Two For One in HMV some time ago. John __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:40:53 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu >must say that worlds in collision & story of my >life left me with rather favorable impressions. Story of My Life is uneven, but please give WIC a spin again. It's a perfect pop record. >haven't listened to any of thomas' non-ubu stuff, though. Early albums are conveniently packaged into 5CD/6albums "Monster" box. I like certain tracks here and there but can't say I have a favorite album - though giluz will definitely disagree with me on this one! In any case, I'd recommend to start exploring non-ubu Thomas with his collaboration with two pale boys, "Erewhon". >>hopefully we will pick up traffic >>with the impending release of Rocket From The Tomb CD.< >say *what*? details, please, on that cd All I can say is - read PU web site: http://www.projex.demon.co.uk/rftt.html David Thomas said "We are hoping for a September release" and no one heard back from him. Syarzhuk


Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:19:29 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites In a message dated 9/18/01 5:01:31 AM Central Daylight Time, P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk writes: << Tuxedomoon "Solve Et Coagula" >> ok, no you got my attention...i have been re-exploring the music of Tuxedo moon lately...any suggestions as to which are the best? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:44:38 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Dan's Top 60 >> rudimentary peni -- extremely atypical anarchopunk. >> imagine a great goth >> album played at 45 rpm, pretty much ... by no means >> thrashy (which their 2 >> 7"s were), but very energetic & forceful dirges. > >Pretty good description. I'd recommend the second >proper album Cacophony too. Not so song structured >with lots of fiddly 'weird' bits. A sort of concept >album about Edgar Allen Poe if you can imagine such a >thing. h.p. lovecraft, actually (the 20th century equivalent). dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:53:11 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites > "Which FIVE albums would you keep - if you had to get rid of ALL the rest". > And stick to the five albums! That way, we might find something to chat > about - there are just too many at the moment. > > I'll start it off, even though it's not an easy task - I admit (I've had to > think long and hard about this - but here goes) > > The FIVE albums I'd "rescue" are (in no particular order): > > The Residents "Not Available" > Clock DVA "Thirst" > The Fall "Grotesque" > Television Personalities "Chocolat-Art" > Tuxedomoon "Solve Et Coagula" > > Paul. In that case Joy Division - Closer Dead Can Dance - Spleen & Ideal This Mortal Coil - It'll End In Tears Lycia - A Day In The Stark Corner Cure - Faith can i add few more please !! mileta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:54:35 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp > I bought this yesterday. Wow, this magazine really stinks. It's probably not > aimed at me, but if I was into clubbing week in week out I still wouldn't but > this mag. > The CD is very average, a couple of nice ideas, but not many. It's not really > worth the > #3.95 I paid for it. > Mute offer it in competition.. You cannot know does you win, until ( if ) one will received as praise. strange !? mileta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:08:59 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp Yeah, I entered this competition too. C "Mileta Okiljevic" on 18/09/2001 15:54:35 To: Chris Ray/IT/MEDAS@MEDAS, idealcopy@smoe.org cc: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp > I bought this yesterday. Wow, this magazine really stinks. It's probably not > aimed at me, but if I was into clubbing week in week out I still wouldn't but > this mag. > The CD is very average, a couple of nice ideas, but not many. It's not really > worth the > #3.95 I paid for it. > Mute offer it in competition.. You cannot know does you win, until ( if ) one will received as praise. strange !? mileta The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:23:35 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites > << Tuxedomoon "Solve Et Coagula" >> > > ok, no you got my attention...i have been re-exploring the music of Tuxedo > moon lately...any suggestions as to which are the best? I saw them live in last December, dream comes true.. very minimalistic sounding gig, with help as supporting act of DJ Hell on drum machine & support act ( he choose music, dj-ing set from some very nice artists just to name Snakefinger and his cover of Model ). Tour was called ' Half-Mute 2000 ' and played all the favourites. For me Desire is best, even if i am very fond of almost all they done. But voice of Winston Tong on Desire makes me ecstatic.. i cannot recall, but does we alredy spoke about this in list or it was on some other one, nevermind mileta > > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:30:35 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu Pere Ubu was reason Andrew Eldritch formed The Sisters Of Mercy.. As i saw on official SOM web-site David Thomas & current Eldritch line - up of Sisters played together last year in some gigs. Som, Tin Star and David Thomas and two pale boys. i wonder how it all looks ... doom commander and david.. i adore modern dance and art of walking.. anyone in red crayola !?? mileta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:04:49 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Muzik : Mute Comp > Yeah, I entered this competition too. > > C Did you get a copy !? or anyone else !? mileta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:16:36 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites >OK, OK, OK. May I make a suggestion? Instead of people sending in these long >lists of their fave albums, perhaps it would be better to limit the number - >some people seem to be listing their entire record collections! don't i wish (sort of) -- more like a couple of months' worth of acquisitions, at least back in my glory days (or,most notoriously, about half the lot i hauled home that frantic lunch hour 3 junes ago). How about >"Which FIVE albums would you keep - if you had to get rid of ALL the rest". >And stick to the five albums! That way, we might find something to chat >about - there are just too many at the moment. oh, god ... wire -- pink flag, chairs missing, 154 joy division -- unknown pleasures cure -- pornography agonizing. (& no *wonder* i had such a great time at the cruxshadows' show here sunday night ... highly recommonded to those who like goth crossed with synthpop.) dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:28:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Felton Frog-Mon Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: MSNBC Hey all- Did anyone get this onto an NTSC video tape? I passed this year, but nearly everyone I know went to it! RJH - --- voyteck@webtv.net wrote: > Tonight on MSNBC (9 EDT / 8 CDT), an hourlong > overview of the Burningman > festival; tune in your cable / satellite receiver > for this > recommendation worth checking out. Did not make > Beachboys show, so no > comments/review other than where they played is far > from big city > expectations, even if it might have been stand-ins > performing, the retro > probably was appreciated. So, as with all of us, > 'time's burning'! > Regards, Dave __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Felton Frog-Mon Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites IC folk > >lists of their fave albums, perhaps it would be > better to limit the > number - > >some people seem to be listing their entire record > collections! Actually, given the varied music collections and tastes on this group. I'd like to see a list of the top 5 albums/groups each member would like to turn the rest of us ICers onto. Stay Ideal! __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:47:36 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites > agonizing. (& no *wonder* i had such a great time at the cruxshadows' show > here sunday night ... highly recommonded to those who like goth crossed with > synthpop.) Dan, i am sure that you like Lycia i am in everyday contact with Tara Van Flower and i can gave you very, very nice news.. there will be two Lycia and related release.. Lycia - Empty Spaces aborted at mixing stage two years earlier are mixed and will be out in complete. Two videos was made by ex-member John Fair nad will added as cd-r tracks on Empty Spaces. I cannot wait !! Also, Estraya ( lycia acoustic alter-ego ) in secretly recorded new one " Tripping back to broken days ". Tara described that as " sadest we ever made ". In 28 September there will be benefit gig for victims of WTD attack and seems it will be real Projekt fest compared to that one will happen' next year !! Until now Estraya, Soul Whirling Somewhere and Audra are confirmed, Steve Roach was asked but it seems that he will be absence ( you know how delicate is for him to perform ). Live CD will be out, all event will be filmed, label is to be finded yet.. Also, one news you will not find on Projekt web-site but from " horse-mouth " there will be Excelsis new pack enriched with Excelsi 2.7 with seven new tracks. Excelsis 3 ..maybe in holidays 2002 cheers, mileta > > dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:21:43 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites << >"Which FIVE albums would you keep - if you had to get rid of ALL the rest". >> I hate things like this - they make my head hurt. But it'd probably be.... Wire - 154 Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures The Velvet Underground and Nico Magazine - Secondhand Daylight Television - Marquee Moon Though how I'd live without any Fall albums is a major problem... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:31:50 +0100 From: "ian jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu i'm a 'Modern Dance 1st' lover too, but, at the time, i thought 'Love, Love, Love' and 'Waiting For Mary' were classic pop singles... just thought i'd chip in... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:00:35 -0700 From: "Brian Young" Subject: [idealcopy] Ubu=Wire Ian.s.j. wrote: >i'm a 'Modern Dance 1st' lover too, but, at the time, i thought 'Love, >Love, Love' and 'Waiting For Mary' were classic pop singles... >just thought i'd chip in... I rate the Datapanik in the Year Zero ep, Modern Dance and Dub Housing as equals. Then, to me, Ubu got spotty for a few albums and rightly took a break. A David Thomas and the Wooden Birds album "Blame the Messenger" sounded like an Ubu record, and shortly afterwards they re-grouped. Although I loved the pop albums Cloudland and World in Collision, they seemed as much like bald-faced attempts at commercial acceptance/success as Captain Beefheart's attempts-Bluejeans & Moonbeams and Unconditionally Guaranteed. Ray Gun Suitcase and Pennsylvania seemed to be true returns to form. Now the Wire comparison (thanks for waiting): I put the Datapanik, MD & DH first three up there in my pantheon as equals to the first 3 Wires. All 6 of those releases shook my musical foundations and rocked me to the core. Best, Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:50:25 EDT From: HeySean@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu I've always been partial to Non-Alignment Pact as being my favorite Ubu tune although I haven't seen them in concert in 20+ years. These recent postings made me dig out a bootleg of theirs: Don't Expect Art recorded in 1978 at the Interstate Mall in Akron. It starts off with a wild cacophony: Hard To Start and just keeps going from there. Great stuff but probably not everyone's cup of tea. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:55:09 EDT From: HeySean@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites personally I think Half Mute is the best followed by Desire. After that would be Holy Wars and Ship of Fools. The EP Scream With A View is excellent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:42:57 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ubu=Wire=Beefheart From: Brian Young > I rate the Datapanik in the Year Zero ep, Modern Dance and Dub Housing as > equals. I'm with you there. > bald-faced attempts at commercial acceptance/success as Captain > Beefheart's attempts-Bluejeans & Moonbeams and Unconditionally Guaranteed. I was drooling for months in anticipation of the follow-up to the brilliant Clear Spot. When it turned out to be Unconditionally Guaranteed I was stunned. I have never been more disappointed in a follow-up to a great record. I never understood it either, because Clear Spot was actually getting airplay on the local album rock station. UC never did. > Now the Wire comparison (thanks for waiting): I put the Datapanik, MD & DH > first three up there in my pantheon as equals to the first 3 Wires. All 6 > of those releases shook my musical foundations and rocked me to the core. My thoughts exactly. Sad to say, Document and Eyewitness has to rate somewhere near the top of my all time disappointing follow-ups. Of course, by then I had heard that Wire had broken up, and probably wasn't expecting as much from a live album. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:01:40 -0400 From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pere Ubu >say *what*? details, please, on that cd, especially since it could affect >my >plans to pick up the "pere ubu unchained" (or something like that) cd on >punk vault that's in the store near my house for (*gulp*) something like >$26.66. i think the first 6 or so tracks are by rocket from the tombs. any >thoughts on that disc, if you've heard it? > The sound quality is quite rough _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:13:00 -0400 From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Favourites >In that case >Joy Division - Closer >Dead Can Dance - Spleen & Ideal >This Mortal Coil - It'll End In Tears >Lycia - A Day In The Stark Corner >Cure - Faith > >can i add few more please !! > >mileta I thought he meant 5 different albums. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i listened to: Arvo Part - Arbos john Coltrane - A Love Supreme ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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