From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #281 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, September 15 2001 Volume 04 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] ["Jerry Butson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Fwd: Spooky -] [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] been off for a couple of days, but have been listening to: [RLynn9@aol.] Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] [RLynn9@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] been off for a couple of days, but have been listening to: [RLynn9@aol.] Re: [idealcopy] Mulletscape [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Mulletscape [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] WIRE MAIL ORDER - only 60 days left ["wiremailorder.com" ] [idealcopy] Grow Up! ["Dr.volume" ] Re: [idealcopy] Grow Up! [Paul Pietromonaco ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:21:36 +0100 From: "Jerry Butson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] What I want to know is what makes this new "war" more legitimate than anyone elses? It may be the USA's forst war this century but I doubt Israel/Palestine et al would agree... j - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Loubert" To: "Ideal Copy" Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] > NBC did a poll in which 63% of the respondents opined that this attack was > more serious than Pearl Harbor. Only 5% thought it was less serious. I > imagine the results would have been similar if people had been asked to > compare it to the sun going supernova. > > Yeah, it's war. Here in the US we also have war on drugs, war on poverty, > and "war on high prices" at our local discount store. Metaphorically > speaking, wars are a dime a dozen in the US. Legally, I don't think we've > had an actual war since World War II. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nik > > > > By the way, has any of you been asked whether you wanted 'the first war > > of the century'? Would this bring anyone back to life? Bush's speech > > this afternoon - 'universal approval' - really? - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 05/09/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:31:56 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: spooky word trick - nostradamus, etc Not spooky - it's a *font* not even microsoft centric you do not have to change the font several times either type NYC (caps) in *any* word processor which includes the Wingdings font and you see the same thing there are also numerology emails circulationg on the signifigance of the date 9/11/2001 myself, i am way too dumbfounded by the whole thing to want to see any more of this nonsense please do not send it to me - listers who want this in their lives are free to disagree but this is the first time i have ever found off-topic truly inappropriate and offensive there is a real tragedy which needs no more sensationalizing and it's not over my prayers are with you and us all ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:18:53 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: FAX label for those who don't already know large amounts of the FAX and Rather Interresting (as well as SubHarmonic and other) label back catalogues are available for download from eMusic. The first 100 songs are free, (here, just try it kiddo ;) but the monthly fees are not too bad if you have a fast connection and plenty of time to process everything. I like the Create series, the first Electronic Musik Centre and all the Tetsu Inoue stuff best myself. And some of the namlook stuff approaches mediochre fusion (esp when he plays guitar - yeesh) Rather different than our lads - Namlook just records/releases/records/releases. Obviously consistancy will suffer, but there's loads of good stuff there if you have the time. In my 3 month subscription I have downloaded close to 500 albums (and no I haven't listened to them all) ... btw - fax afficianados will appreciate another small german label, elektrolux as well ... ... bbtw ... em:t afficianados are advised that substantial portions of that very htf catalogue are available (streamed) at www.emit.cc ... a surestream capture hack for winamp completes the picture ... see http://emit.woestenburg.com/ for details ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:22:35 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Fwd: Spooky -] In a message dated 9/13/01 5:24:21 PM Central Daylight Time, nik@trans-lingua.demon.co.uk writes: << By the way, has any of you been asked whether you wanted 'the first war of the century'? Would this bring anyone back to life? Bush's speech this afternoon - 'universal approval' - really? 'There exists a limit to the force even the most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the artistry of government. Misuse of power is a fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool for vengeance, never a hostage, not a fortification against the martyrs it has created.' Frank Herbert, Dune Messiah. Nik >>>>> I applaud you on words well said.....Though i am deeply saddened and extremely angry, i am not certain that attacking entire countries for the actions of a group of madmen is the correct action.....maybe we should wait until we know for CERTAIN who is responsible for this and what countries they are in, then demand that those countries turn them over.....I watched a program on PBS last night that really opened my eyes to what is REALLY going on and the events that lead up to this HORROR in chronological order....This program did not use the slant of good versus evil..it just told the facts....Nobody is innocent..there is blood on this country's hands as well...Our media of course is NOT going to tell the truth about that....WE have killed many innocent people as well, and maybe even provoked SOME of this tragedy...THOUGH I DO BELIEVE THIS IS VERY SICK AND WRONG.....however, THEIR loved ones and people they have lost are no less important than ours...we are all human beings, it is just a damn shame that the fates of so many lives of are decided by the hands and desires of so few.....madness Robert Lynn USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:26:33 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] In a message dated 9/13/01 8:57:06 PM Central Daylight Time, aaron@eecs.harvard.edu writes: << Well, the number of casualties looks like it'll be twice as high as Pearl Harbor, if not higher. Between that and the added horror of non-military people being targeted, I don't really think it's at all strange to say it's more serious. What we're heading into may or may not be as grave as World War II, but that wasn't the question. >> Yes, i fear for the future....this is going to get a hell of a lot worse before it's all over...people are going to die and things are going to be destroyed..hopefully new weapons will NOT be introduced in all of this....I pray that chemical warfare is not used....the "enemy" is here in this country and the terror they could unleash with chemicals is very frightening.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:38:58 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] been off for a couple of days, but have been listening to: In a message dated 9/14/01 2:24:47 AM Central Daylight Time, wmouk@yahoo.com writes: << Charlemagne Palestine - Alloy Charlemagne Palestine - Continuous Sound Forms >> out of curiosity, what does Charlemagne Palestine sound like? speaking of Palestine...i wonder what the late Bryn Jones (aka Muslimgauze) would have thought of the current terrorist situation? A Brit who was always very pro-Palestinian and strangely enough made it quite obvious in his music, song tityles, album artwork etc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:48:10 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [WAY OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] In a message dated 9/14/01 4:38:56 AM Central Daylight Time, jerry@vane-recordings.com writes: << What I want to know is what makes this new "war" more legitimate than anyone elses? It may be the USA's forst war this century but I doubt Israel/Palestine et al would agree... j >> True, but it is so shocking to Americans because we have become complacent and lazy...thinking that this could NEVER happen to us..especially on our soil and of this magnitude....America needs to wake up and realize that the world has changed and is a much more dangerous place....We need to put down the junk food, turn off the tv, quit worshipping movie and rock stars, get our damn heads out of the sand and start using them to think and pay attention to what's going on in our country and in the world...Everyone here sits on their fat asses waiting for everyone else to do EVERYTHING for them....speak for them..think for them..act for them..take care of them...protect them....WHILE DOING NOTHING...We have lost more than our so-called innocence...We have lost our self-discipline and resolve....We are so fragmented and lax here in our land, how the hell do we expect to ward off others who seek revenge or chaos or whatever?...Things do not look good.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:10:37 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] >We need to put down the junk food, turn off the tv, >quit worshipping movie and rock stars... Even Wire? I rather liked worshipping them. You should see my shrine to Graham's mullet... (^_^) (Sorry - trying to add a little levity to the situtation. I'll go back to my hole now...) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:15:13 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] In a message dated 9/14/01 12:12:07 PM Central Daylight Time, paulp@wrq.com writes: << >We need to put down the junk food, turn off the tv, >quit worshipping movie and rock stars... Even Wire? I rather liked worshipping them. You should see my shrine to Graham's mullet... (^_^) (Sorry - trying to add a little levity to the situtation. I'll go back to my hole now...) Cheers, Paul >> no, actually i appreciate all the humour i can get right now!.....Graham has a mullet??? who's have thought? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:19:18 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] >no, actually i appreciate all the humour i can get right now! In that case, you're welcome! (^_^) >.....Graham has a mullet??? who's have thought? "Had a mullet" being the operative case here. It was in the 80's Wire period. I think it's a hairstyle he'd rather forget. His head was clean shaven last time I saw him! Maybe the other list members know, but didn't Colin have a mullet at one point? Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:24:27 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] hhhahhahahhahahha....i can honestly say that i have never had a mullet, although many of my friends did......i did however have some pretty awful hair colors Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] Mulletscape This *is* spooky. I'd just looked at a really old posting that I hadn't had a chance to follow the link on. Have a look at this: http://www.geocities.com/dmack2002/TRA4-egl-grass-s.jpg Cheers John - --- RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > hhhahhahahhahahha....i can honestly say that i have > never had a mullet, > although many of my friends did......i did however > have some pretty awful > hair colors > > Robert __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:33:44 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] been off for a couple of days, but have been listening to: i have been listening to the following: 1. Anthony Manning - "Islets in Pink Polypropelene" (irdial label) if you haven't heard this track it down! i think it's from around 1994 (i think), a great year for ambient/electronica....this is outstanding! opinions? 2.Recoil - "Hydrology" (mute label) - This is a beautiful record as well...probably my favorite Depeche Mode related record along with the Counterfeit ep by Martin Gore and Black Celebration 3. David Toop and Max Eastley - Buried Dreams (Beyond label)...wow i still love this icy trip into an imagined future landscape....riveting Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:36:40 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mulletscape mulletsgalore.com .........this is the mullet site to end all mullet sites....it doesn't get any better than this...they even have pictures of basketball playing midgets with mullets!!!!!! ENJOY!!!!! Robert Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:42:46 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mulletscape In a message dated 9/14/01 12:28:50 PM Central Daylight Time, johnroberts_stats@yahoo.com writes: << This *is* spooky. I'd just looked at a really old posting that I hadn't had a chance to follow the link on. Have a look at this: http://www.geocities.com/dmack2002/TRA4-egl-grass-s.jpg Gasp! i can't believe it! Graham with a mullet!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:48:02 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: [idealcopy] WIRE MAIL ORDER - only 60 days left THE END NEAR IS There's only 60 days left to order your favorite WMO items. After November, we're closing shop forever. Don't miss out - visit www.wiremailorder.com and order over the internet with your credit card on our secure server. WMO 1CD Desmond Simmons "Alone On Penguin Island" WMO 2CD Various Artists Play Wire "Whore" WMO 4CD Wire "Turns & Strokes" *** only 5 copies left on 2LP WMO 5CD Bruce Gilbert "The Haring" WMO 6CD E. G. Lewis "Pre>He" WMO 8CD Various Artists Play Drill "Dugga Dugga Dugga" WMO 9CD Dome "Yclept" *** limited quantities WMO 11CD P'o "Whilst Climbing..." *** limited quantites WMO 12CD Michael O'Shea WMO 14CD Wire "Coatings" WMO 16CD Gilbertpossstenger plus selected other titles from THOUSAND and SWIM. LIMITED quantities of He Said Omala and Vapourspace Sweep 3x12" (with Swim remixers). PLEASE check our set sale as well. As always, thank you for your support http://www.wiremailorder.com shop@wiremailorder.com [we will only send out 1 more remainder before our final email] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:46:05 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] In a message dated 14/09/01 18:23:37 GMT Daylight Time, paulp@wrq.com writes: > Maybe the other list members know, but didn't Colin have a mullet at one > point? > > Cheers, > Paul > ///////well he had a very nice pony tail in 91/92 but i can't actually recall a colin mullet. of course , all photographic evidence is gratefully recieved....... p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:51:22 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [NOT SO OFF TOPIC][Fwd: Spooky -] as some here may recall, a little over a year ago i found myself the unwitting wearer of a mullet, having gone in for a haircut for the first time in something like 10 months (one never knows when an emergency call for a robert smith lookalike might come in, does one?) & told them to trim it something like 4 inches all over. little did i realize that a uniformly applied shearing would leave the back longer than the rest ... within a week i crept back in & had them hack away the offending growth, of course. the sheer (no pun intended) horror of it all ... dan >hhhahhahahhahahha....i can honestly say that i have never had a mullet, >although many of my friends did......i did however have some pretty awful >hair colors > >Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:51:48 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mulletscape >In a message dated 9/14/01 12:28:50 PM Central Daylight Time, >johnroberts_stats@yahoo.com writes: > ><< This *is* spooky. I'd just looked at a really old > posting that I hadn't had a chance to follow the link > on. Have a look at this: > > http://www.geocities.com/dmack2002/TRA4-egl-grass-s.jpg > >Gasp! i can't believe it! Graham with a mullet!!!!! obviously, none of us is safe. dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 02:20:31 +0100 From: "Dr.volume" Subject: [idealcopy] Grow Up! This has been a horrible week and some of my fellow listees hysterical and ill-considered comments have not made it any easier. Pray for the victims & their loved ones and have some respect for our many US friends on IdealCopy. Stop all this mindless, pathetic, childish crap about f**ing Nostradamus and all this crass, ill-informed speculation. I'm sorry to disappoint some of you soul-destroying gloom & doom merchants, but this isn't the end of the world. Just another violent chapter in history....and probably the worst we will ever experience in our lifetime. There will be cultural implications from all this and we'll discuss this when the tears dry out. But for now....I'm tuning into Radio Silence. P.S. Don't f**king bother replying to this e-mail right now because I don't want to discuss this at all. All you Need is Love. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:48:39 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Grow Up! >This has been a horrible week and some of my fellow listees hysterical and >ill-considered comments have not made it any easier. > What the hell brought this on?????????? Was it the mullets???? Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #281 *******************************