From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #266 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, August 31 2001 Volume 04 : Number 266 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Robert Pollard's All Time Top 10/Beatles [Bart ] [idealcopy] (OT) Leeds Festival ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] (Off T)poll/PoL ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: [kevin eden Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert Pollard's All Time Top 10/Beatles It sure is funny to see [what started out with something shallow as] a top 10 list develop into a real cultural discussion. It's weird though, to notice the world still is divided in pro's & contra's on this subject. To me this discord [is this proper english?] itself seems like a relic from the 60's. I therefor agree with Dan's oxygen analogy. Cheers, Bart www.bartvandamme.com bartvandamme@home.nl bart@adrem.nl icq: 106821124 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:52:31 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #265 >>I fought in the punk rock wars to rid the world of this sort of old toss >>etc.... It's funny that a statement like this may have meant something back in the old days, but Punk Rock is as silly now as what it purported to go up against. Punk is really 'old toss' too.... Frank - Listen to REVOLVER. It says everything. charles shop@wiremailorder.com http://www.wiremailorder.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:56:26 +0200 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #265 >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: wiremailorder.com [mailto:shop@wiremailorder.com] >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. August 2001 13:53 >An: idealcopy@smoe.org >Betreff: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #265 > > >>>I fought in the punk rock wars to rid the world of this sort >of old toss >>>etc.... > >It's funny that a statement like this may have meant something >back in the >old days, but Punk Rock is as silly now as what it purported to go up >against. Punk is really 'old toss' too.... > >Frank - Listen to REVOLVER. It says everything. Yup, I like them ... sadly those shoegazers only made two albums ... ;-)) FfB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:27:03 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Beatles (One Last Time) >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert Pollard's All Time Top 10/Beatles > >Robert, > ><< Sure the Beatles were a different sound for the times, but does that >neccessarily make them the be-all-end-all? << > >Their impact was a little stronger than "a different sound for the times". >The Beatles simply rewrote the rules, then rewrote them again..and again. >Everything since owes them a debt, simple as that. This may be the best answer to this question I've seen. There are a good 10 bands or so that I can think of that I like more than the Beatles, but again, only the VU can even begin to match them for importance (the VU perhaps being to underground what the Beatles were to commercial music). Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:56:51 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Swim~ and 'Get Ready' In a message dated 8/29/01 11:51:37 AM Central Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: << question ; what's the piquet album like? one i've often meant to get but never yet managed. any fans of it out there? p >>>>>>>> I am a big fan of the Piquet album....as well as the other offerings from the Parrallel Series (Mute): Kendall Turner Overdrive- "Displaced Links" (which is a great re-working of Simon Fisher-Turner's "Schwarma".......Andrei Samsonov - Void In (classically trained Russian composer).....and the "ORR" cd by Bruce Gilbert and Robert Hampson (of Loop/Main fame)..I can't really describe them except to say they sound very much like Bruce's solo stuff...you really should check them out! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:34:05 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: and i listened to: Nona Hendryx - Skindiver The Blue Nile - A Walk Across Roof tops Paul Haig - The Warp of Pure Fun Sparks - # 1 in Heaven Peter Hammill - Sitting Targets Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:01:20 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] The First Letter Voices >who's the uncredited female voice? Where is this voice? Which track(s)? >who is claude bessey, besides the voice on naked...? A performance artist & writer who died a couple of years ago. The Third Day was dedicated to him. I seem to recall a small obituary for him on Wireviews, but it might've been elsewhere... >who says "it continues" at the beginning of the song? Sounds like Graham Lewis to me. >who sings the words "footsi-footsi"? Sounds like Graham Lewis to me. >what are the words blurted out in ticking mouth? I asked that a while back but no one knew. Sounds like Graham Lewis to me (interrupting Bruce?). Bruce sings the words that are on the insert. >who does the first part of a bargain...? Russell Haswell. He also did the sleeve. And for your next question... Could it be: 'Who is Russell Haswell?' Lock up your hats! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:05:24 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: revolver In a message dated 8/30/01 7:57:43 AM, Frank.Woerner@nbg.sbs.de writes: > >>Frank - Listen to REVOLVER. It says everything. > > >Yup, I like them ... sadly those shoegazers only >made two albums ... > > >;-)) lol!! now that is funny. touche i did happen to see revolver and drop nineteens play in a record store once. good stuff. - -paul c.d. p.s. the beatles revolver really is a fab album ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:10:50 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The First Letter Voices hi graham, thanks for the answers. so what can you tell me about russell haswell? someone else answered the one about the "female" voice. it's colin on looking at me (stop!). hehe - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:52:44 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ON topic! voices - ----- Original Message ----- From: > wir-first letter > who's the uncredited female voice? Isn't Malka Spigel in there? (on Looking At Me) Whose voice (not the whisper) is that on Image on A-Z? How High Is Is? from the Hox album sounds like a vocal duet between Lewis and Gilbert, but it isn't, unless Gilbert's uncredited. Piquet album - very good indeed np P'o - 'Whilst Climbing...' didn't initially like this at all (got it on the WMO CD reissue), but it definitely grows. Aspects of it are, to my ears, reminiscent of The Residents. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:15:06 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: [idealcopy] (OT) Leeds Festival A mate of mine is a journalist and got on the press list for Saturday at the above. I've never been a festival kind of chap, but he was able to get me in 'for free' (compulsory #10.00 donation to charity!) so I went along I wasn't too clued up on who was going to be on except for the posters I'd seen which named the headliners, but was pleased to see Mouse on Mars, who were very good indeed. Also, slipped into the running order in the Dance Tent, one Gary Numan. I called in to that, and as it goes, it wasn't too bad. I only ever liked Are Friends Electric, but was curious to see how he sounded these days. He's still got that whiney voice, and he still does that slightly unpleasant thing where he holds his arms above his head, crossed at the wrist, whilst wiggling his hips, but all in all, pretty entertaining, although he was performing to the Church of Numan. Also caught Eels, PJ Harvey (both very good), Run DMC (awful), back end of Iggy Pop's set and about half of The Strokes (why the fuss?). Food and drink were extortionate, and although it always recovers, the shit-tip that these things turn the beautiful grounds of Temple Newsam into is a bit of a choker. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:01:22 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (Off T)poll/PoL - ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Blakeney > //// Punishment of Luxury - Laughing Academy> Ian I agree about this album by Punilux. I saw somewhere that it managed > to get on some magazines worst 50 albums of all time, but I reckon its > rather good! Phillip from Australia Hmmm, somebody on this list once referred to them as 'just silly really' Odd that it gets into a '50 worst' though (didn't ABIACUIIS get similar rubbishing somewhere recently). What was the mag's criteria? I also saw it on some "Best Albums of 1979' type list on a website a while ago. When I was in my teens Laughing Academy was the one album that mates with very differing tastes but all pretty serious about their music, could all agree on as being an excellent record. Ian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:36:19 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: and for me it was: shoukichi kina-peppermint tea house drowning pool-aphonia godspeed you black emperor-lift your skinny fists... - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:21:00 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: Remember Shakti - Live in Bombay ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #266 *******************************