From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #259 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, August 24 2001 Volume 04 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- AW: [idealcopy] records onto CD [Woerner Frank ] RE: [idealcopy] Records onto cd ["giluz" ] [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: [kevin eden ] Re: AW: [idealcopy] records onto CD [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] PostEverything [Bart ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Martyn Bates/Kowalski/Nightblooms ["Mileta Okiljevic"] Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] FW: [idealcopy] PostEverything ["giluz" ] [idealcopy] Re:issues desired ["David McKenzie" ] [idealcopy] reissues ["ray\)\(o\)\(mac" ] [idealcopy] Re: reissues ["ray\)\(o\)\(mac" ] Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: ["stephen graziano" ] Re: [idealcopy] Swim team 2 [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Cure (was Jim Kerr Sectioned under Throbbing Gristle Act) ["S] Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re:Nightblooms ["ian jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] listening while riding [Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] records onto CD >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Mileta Okiljevic [mailto:baltazar@panet.bits.net] >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. August 2001 22:32 >An: Frank J|rgen Wvrner; idealcopy@smoe.org >Cc: Mileta Okiljevic >Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD > >I like very much Josef K. more than Orange Juice even i am >fond of them.. >i always liked scottish bands, i like their melodies.. Yes, I also bought lots of scottish guitar bands throughout the years. Although their soccer team was always weak their music was always very good. I dare to admit that I also liked the Armoury Show and Big Country ... hmmm, I shouldn't say this on the idealcopy list ... I always preferred guitar music to keyboard music ... >funnu thing is that i search my old collections of video tapes >two days ago ( of course, i haven' t list what is on them ) >and when i play one of many first clip was Jim Jiminee,,, >and you mentioned it...spooky..!! > >Julian Cope is one of my heroes.. He is a lunatic, isn't he ? There is a long way from "Treason" to the time where he was photographed sitting under a turtle shell for an album cover ... ;-)) I have the "treason" 12'' where there is also a french version on it ... brilliant. Weekend's album "la Variete" I also own but haven't listened to it for a long time. Isn't it similar to early "Everything but the Girl" output? FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:48:05 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Records onto cd > The first two Flying Lizards albums "The Flying Lizards" and > "Fourth Wall". I > think they were issued on CD in Japan, but I've never seen them. > I think David > Cunningham disapproved of these reissues; I don't know why. > Apparently he's now > working on a reissue of "Fourth Wall", but this is taking a very > long time. I've got Fourth Wall on CD - I don't know what DC would have against it. It doesn't sound different than the vinyl, at least to my ears, and the bonus tracks are cool. giluz > > Mark Short ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:54:57 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: U Srinivas - Rama Shreerama Pharaoh Sanders -Thembi ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] SET SALE - DAY 4 Thanks for all who have enquired about this. Orders will be despatched on receipt of funds. A few items left. To help clear them there have been some reductions etc. E-mail for list. cheers ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:13:17 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] records onto CD > I dare to admit that I also liked the Armoury Show > and Big Country ... hmmm, I shouldn't say this on > the idealcopy list ... ////2 bands i did actually see live and was grossly underwhelmed. especially the AS who on paper sounded a great act but live sounded a bit like a failed attempt at big country. > > Weekend's album "la Variete" I also own but haven't > listened to it for a long time. Isn't it similar to > early "Everything but the Girl" output? ///// never thought weekend really got there. alison stratton's voice was great in YMG , but she wasn't really up to the jazz stuff weekend tried out. there was an odd compilation of YMG/weekend singles i saw a couple of times ; seemed a funny thing to do. p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:46:29 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] PostEverything www.posteverything.com Giluz, did you make this site? real professional work! Bookmarked it! Bart bartvandamme@home.nl www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:54:38 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Martyn Bates/Kowalski/Nightblooms > Blast from the past. I saw them support Spear Of > Destiny at Leicester University (when I was still at > school!). This would be their first tour for the > Grapes of Wrath LP. Kowalski had a metal grinder on > stage with them and shot sparks all over the place. yes, they used frequently in some interviews photos with sparks on stage... but, they were honest and admit that is only similarity with neubauten.. and german origin > > Re: Nightblooms. I remember a single coming out via > Fast Forward/Cartel and then didn't Fierce Records > (Pooh Sticks and various novelty releases) release an > album of theirs? I know that Fire was their label.. at least on this album i owned until two days ago.. i send that as gift to my US friend.. he is big MBV fan, and Nightblooms was into that waters.. in US Seed records... mileta ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:18:42 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD > >I like very much Josef K. more than Orange Juice even i am > >fond of them.. > >i always liked scottish bands, i like their melodies.. > > Yes, I also bought lots of scottish guitar bands throughout the years. > Although their soccer team was always weak their > music was always very good. > I dare to admit that I also liked the Armoury Show > and Big Country ... hmmm, I shouldn't say this on > the idealcopy list ... I always preferred guitar music > to keyboard music ... ha, football again.. i must admit that in big competitions i always support Scotland.. even if i know that they will be out very soon... Skids connection at all... did you know that Jobson failed as football player when he was youngster then start to work on art.. long way from football ground to Jean Paul Sartre.. > >Julian Cope is one of my heroes.. > > He is a lunatic, isn't he ? > There is a long way from "Treason" to the time > where he was photographed sitting under a turtle > shell for an album cover ... ;-)) He is or want to be thinking he is..mad there is a list a mad thing he done in last year.. i must admit that i hevn' t heard last 3 from him... i like his solo work, but still prefer more Teardrop.. i like waht Crucial 3 done..after they split.. years ago i sold my copy of Wah!- Art Of Bluff and guess what my friend bought my copy from some bloke just a month ago.. i know that is my copy, i recognize.. we will transfered it on cd-r.. i cannot wait to hear it again... > > I have the "treason" 12'' where there is also > a french version on it ... brilliant. never heard french version.. treason is classic.. one of best pop single all the time...!! you gave me idea... for a hour-two i travelled to Bulgaria ( Black Sea !ha XTX connection ) and there i will search more bulgarian voices on cd.. that is their folk music.. to lift my travell mood ( i will travell 15-16 hours there..) i will listen KIlimanjaro... it always cheer me up it will be good innuendo to my 10 day vacation... rgds, mileta ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:27:58 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] PostEverything > Bart > bartvandamme@home.nl > www.bartvandamme.com Bart, just checked your site.. nice work.. like that b/w photos... btw, we are born in same year... 1963.. at least we have song new order wrote with that title... also, johann cruyff.. with werner observations about scottish team.. football is word of the day..ha, ha.. cheers mileta ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:26:05 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] records onto cd >>Although their soccer team was always weak Hey Frank I always liked you but you can go off people you know Alistair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:40:42 +0200 From: Bart Subject: Re: [idealcopy] PostEverything > Bart, just checked your site.. > nice work.. > like that b/w photos... > btw, we are born in same year... > 1963.. > at least we have song new order wrote > with that title... > > also, johann cruyff.. > with werner observations about scottish team.. > football is word of the day..ha, ha.. > cheers > > mileta Thnx Mileta, :-) Maybe more IdealCopiers have their own site? Curious... Cheers, Bart van Damme bartvandamme@home.nl www.bartvandamme.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:15:22 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: FW: [idealcopy] PostEverything - -----Original Message----- From: giluz [mailto:giluz@netvision.net.il] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:32 PM To: Bart Subject: RE: [idealcopy] PostEverything > www.posteverything.com > > Giluz, did you make this site? > real professional work! Bookmarked it! > Ha-ha-ha - what on earth made you think that? I admit that I am a computer programmer (though I don't design internet sites and now I'm practically unemployed), but no - I didn't. It is cool and professional, so I take that as a compliment. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:26:51 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] Re:issues desired the skids - joy one of my favorite billy mac moments is on fields two wallowing scots, what could be better? i notice that days in europa has been reissued and the absolute game is due soooon laddies ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:24:12 -0500 From: "ray\)\(o\)\(mac" Subject: [idealcopy] reissues young marble giants - collossal youth has been issued at least twice on CD by crepescule once with the addition of the testcard ep and next with even more additional material freur - doot doot http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1052863496/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/po psearch.html/clickID=tn_srch_txt if you click thru http://www.geocities/com/dmack2002/junk.html you'll give me some pennies of cred i still pine for cd reissues of all lizzy mercier descloux's albums i have one for the soul, and suspense, but would kill for mambo nassau http://www.geocities/com/dmack2002/lizzymercierdescloux.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:26:31 -0500 From: "ray\)\(o\)\(mac" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: reissues really bad replying to my own posts ;) > young marble giants - collossal youth http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000GVZ/qid=998573111/sr=2-1/ref=a ps_sr_pm_1_1/107-2759914-4278160 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:31:30 -0400 From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: I don't know if I'd refer to the Silicon Teens as "mighty". More like the archetypal "slight" band though amusing in their limited way. A novetly act by definition in those early days of electropop. Who remembers the Plastics? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:50:52 -0400 From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: Wire - 154 (imagine that!) Russel Mills/Undark - Pear+Umbra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:58:29 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: as for me...i listened to: while riding my bike through the park : Erasure - Chorus Depeche Mode - Exciter While reading before bed: David Sylvian & Holger Czukay - Flux and Mutabilty Hilmar Orn Hilmarrssen - Children of Nature Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 2 and right now: Richard H. Kirk - Alphaphone Vol. 1 - Step, Write, Run Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Swim team 2 > swim team #2 swimpromo 23:55 17 Aug As far as I'm aware, this will follow the format of the first disc, ie: 74mins, available for the price of a 12". But don't quote me on that. This looks better in terms of new stuff than Swim Team 1. 1. SILO - Root AFAIK, a new track. 2. TOUCAEN ? Lecci on the Grande Jatte 3. HOST - In Suspension New Swim signings. 4. BUMPY - Bumpy on the Beach 5. COLIN NEWMAN - Tsunami (edit) New material. 6. SILO remixed by COLIN NEWMAN - Prime Movers (boss remix) From the 7" -- the only new Silo 4:4 track. Well worth a listen. 7. IMMERSION/ FLYING SAUCER ATTACK - Even Further No idea what this is. 8. LOBE ? November (edit) New track, presumably. 9. DICTAPHONE- esc. meetings New signing. 10. SYMPTOMS - Stale Air on a City Morning (edit) Edit from 'Apathy' 11. MALKA SPIGEL ? Antimatter New track. 12. BEATKITTEN - Bored? New artist. 13. COLIN NEWMAN - Time Will Allow New track 14. SILO - Prime Movers (edit) From 'Alloy' 15. BUMPY ? Blokey 16. IMMERSION - 2MStens 17. FREDERIK AMMITB?LL - Copy 18. SYMPTOMS ? Rose 19. IMMERSION - Outro New tracks. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://listen.to/veer SVA: http://welcome.to/snub - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:15:22 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Swim team 2 In a message dated 8/23/01 11:00:48 AM Central Daylight Time, wireviews@yahoo.com writes: << 7. IMMERSION/ FLYING SAUCER ATTACK - Even Further >> Flying Saucer Attack has an album called "Further"...so i guess this is Immersion and FSA doing a collaboration take on this or a remix of some sort...could be interesting... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:20:09 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: Mileta, As Silicon teens were a Daniel Miller pseudonym, I'm sure the stuff is still available. Mute must have warehouses full of records as large amounts of its output is still there - including most of the Wire, He Said and AC Marias releases from the 80s (to takle the list on a rare foray back on topic!!!) go to http://www.mute.com and follow links to the Mute Bank Mark << eminded me of mighty SILICON TEENS.. i've enjoyed them a lot...but sold album many, many years ago.. it is strange that i missed that album a lot lately, and for some reason thought about it very much.. mark, you know almost everything.. does ST are re-issued on CD or there are some plans.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:28:27 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Cure (was Jim Kerr Sectioned under Throbbing Gristle Act) Robert wrote 2 weeks ago, but I only read it today: >17 seconds/Faith (especially)/Pornography (one of the bleakest >records ever)..were and are still the greatest Cure work.....and >Disintegration was a great comeback at that time....everything else >is so-so to weak..... Wish is a good, if not great post-goth album. Head On The Door is a great pop record. However, I do agree that Top, Kiss Me and Wild Mood Swings are kinda weak though they did produce a fair amount of great singles. Syarzhuk


Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:29 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD yes, i happen to love the first five Tangerine Dream albums: Electronic Meditation...Alpha Centauru....Zeit....Atem....and yes, even Phaedra.....out of the stuff from the Krautrock era of the early 70's, i'm partial to Kraftwerk, Cluster, and a lot of Klaus Schulze's stuff....the few Conrad Schnitzler lp's i have heard have been great..Does anyone know how to find his stuff?...i'd actually like some of the late 70's-early 80's Schnitzler stuff..... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:14:55 +0100 From: "ian jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Re:Nightblooms >Re: Nightblooms. I remember a single coming out via >Fast Forward/Cartel and then didn't Fierce Records >(Pooh Sticks and various novelty releases) release an >album of theirs? i remember the Nightblooms quite well, fairly pleasant pseudo-MBV with touches of Sonic Youth. they must have done an lp or two, though i myself only have a few tracks and the odd Peel Session on tape. ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:53:26 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD In a message dated 22/08/01 12:57:19 GMT Daylight Time, stumper@osc.de writes: > Young Marble Giants > The Deep Freeze Mice > The Normil Hawaiians > Eyeless in Gaza > > and most important: "Dootdoot" from Freur. > > Frank,you're a man after my own heart.That Freur record is great.Young Marble Giants & Eyeless In Gaza are well represented in my collection but the other 2 bands you mentioned have passed me by I'm afraid.Any idea where to start ? cheers Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:57:47 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: In a message dated 22/08/01 14:17:57 GMT Daylight Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > sigh* sometimes my record collection frightens me to death. > > dan > > > > Seconded. Chris i.e Level 42 "World Machine" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:03:35 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] records onto CD In a message dated 8/23/01 6:59:50 PM Central Daylight Time, CHRISWIRE@aol.com writes: > Eyeless in Gaza > > > what exactly does "Kodak Ghosts Run Amok" by Eyeless in Gaza sound like? and bands/albums you could compare to? just to give me a good idea? i've always been curious about it but never found it in my favorite second hand shop....thanks, Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:49:09 +0200 From: Woerner Frank Subject: [idealcopy] listening while riding >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2001 17:58 >An: sjgraziano@hotmail.com; wmouk@yahoo.com; idealcopy@smoe.org >Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to: > > >as for me...i listened to: > >while riding my bike through the park : > Erasure - Chorus > Depeche Mode - Exciter That's dangerous ! I, as a triathlet, would love to listen to some music during my long distance race bike exercises. But: it is forbidden in Germany. it is VERY dangerous. I did some spinning at the local gym last winter with some nice ladies besides me and disco lights and loud music - that was very cool - I might ask the teacher if some WIRE music is ok for our exercises next winter. FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #259 *******************************