From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #245 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, August 13 2001 Volume 04 : Number 245 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT; Section 25 [jeffh@artnet.net (Jeff Hall)] [idealcopy] Fwd: P J Harvey Confirms UK Tour For September (OT) [PaulRabj] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] now spinning [John Roberts Robert, > ><< Section 25 - In the Garden of Eden (I think)>>>>>>i have a few singles >that > i still like..wondering if i should get any of the full length reissues >> > >Every home should have the first two albums (Key of Dreams and Always Now). >Buy the new LTM reissues - loads of extra tracks and only #10 each if bought >direct. > >Mark The newest CD, Illuminus Illumina, comes as a freebee with "The Night Watch". Unbelievably good collection of stuff from the same era. http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/ltm2322.html Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:47:47 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: P J Harvey Confirms UK Tour For September (OT) just in case anyones interested , some good advance warning. i'll try to do brixton i think (never been there ; is it much of a venue?)p Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINYB33-0812094436; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:44:36 -0400 Received: from ns.digicc.net (ns.digicc.net [64.29.31.41]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB59-0812094427; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:44:27 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by ns.digicc.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA28882; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:51:48 GMT Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:51:48 GMT Message-Id: <200108121351.NAA28882@ns.digicc.net> To: paulrabjohn@aol.com From: pjlist@pjharvey.net Subject: P J Harvey Confirms UK Tour For September X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P J Harvey Confirms UK Tour For September: P J Harvey has confirmed that, following her headline tour in America, she will return to the UK for a handful of live dates. Harvey will play Glasgow Barrowlands on September 26th, Manchester Apollo on September 28th & London Brixton Academy on September 30th. Special guest for these shows will be Moris Tepper (www.candlebone.com). Tickets for all three shows will go on-sale on Monday August 13th and will be available from the following outlets: GLASGOW, BARROWLANDS 26/9/01: Box Office: Tel: 0141 221 5273 & 0141 331 8383 MANCHESTER APOLLO 28/9/01: Box Office: Tel: 0161 242 2560 & 0161 832 1111 LONDON, BRIXTON ACADEMY 30/9/01: Credit Card Hotline: Tel: 0207 287 09 32 Stargreen: Tel: 0207 734 89 32 Way Ahead: Tel: 0207 403 33 31 Ticketmaster: Tel: 0207 344 40 40 Rough Trade Shops (Neal's Yard & Talbot Rd.) Rhythm Records (Camden) HMV, Tower & Ticketmaster Shops throughout London & The South East. On-line: www.gigsandtours.com - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- You received this email because you subscribed to the PJ Harvey mailing list. Please go to http://www.pjharvey.net/mailing/index.html if you wish to unsubscribe. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] now spinning Scarey. Robert has freaked me out by playing the same Lee Perry album on the same day. This is the one on Trojan isn't it (TRLS227)? Inspired me to look over at the mess in front of the record cabinet to see what else I've been listening to recently (mainly reggae at the mo): Lee Perry - Mystic Warrior Lee Perry - Turn and Fire/Upsetter Disco Dub Twinkle Brothers - Dub Massacre 2 Gregory Isaacs - The Sensational Prince Far I - Umkhonto We Sizwe Frankie Paul - Give Me That Feeling Greensleeves Sampler 1 Sonic Youth - Sister Dub Syndicate - Tunes from the Missing Channel Obscure Independent Classics Vols 1 and 4 (Cordelia Records) The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace Can - Tago Mago and Cannibalism Heptones - The Original... Alternative TV - The Image Has Cracked Colin Newman - Commercial Suicide Three Johns - Demonocracy Swell Maps - Jane from Occupied Europe Rudimentary Peni - Cacophony and CDs: Wire - Turns and Strokes Mark Stewart and the Mafia - Mark Stewart Magazine - Maybe It's Right... CD box set Various - Lipstick Traces Various - those Punk Rock Rarities CDs one of which includes George Gill's lot the Bears [truly awful comps of mostly pub rock bands - don't bother with them - I've only got them at the mo because someone has lent me them] John - --- RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > now playing on this beautiful mid-western (u.s.) > morning: > > Flying Saucer Attack- "Chorus" > Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - "Fourth World 1: Possible > Musics" > the Orb - "Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld" double > cd with all tracks > included > Lee Scratch Perry - "Battle of Armageddon" > > and speaking of the Martin Gore covers lp > counterfeit (which i think is > great), does anyone recommend any Tuxedomoon cds? > > Robert Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:40:35 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Or Some Throbbing Frith Farmers New to my ears this week: Freebies to review....... Francisco Lopez & Zbigniew Karkowski - Whint 2CD (Absolute) One CD each featuring a lengthy composition made exclusively of white noise... if you have trouble pronouncing Fennesz, ol'Zbigniew must look like a nightmare! http://www.absolutesound.net OR SOME COMPUTER MUSIC 2 (OR) Jim O'Rourke, Farmers Manual, Tom Wallace, Phoenicia, Curtis Roads, Alberto de Campo, Atau Tanaka/Eric Wenger Secondhand at top whack..... Ikue Mori - Hex Kitchen (Tzadik) Evan Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble - Drawn Inward (ECM) New double CD bargains at a fiver Yeh!.... Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (Matador) ......their worst album by far, haven't looked at the CDROM videos yet Nick Cave - No More Shall We Part ......I bet this is his worst too, but haven't listened to it yet! A bootleg CDR from an Ideal Copyist........ Killing Joke - The Unperverted Pantomime [thanks Paul] A 7" single left in my bag by a friend after a Floach/Villa 21/John Thomas gig..... Floach - Sticky Glue to Shake Off Your Shoe (Half Eaten Records) Golden Oldies on Vinyl......... Fred Frith & Henry Kaiser - With friends like these (1979) Fred Frith - Gravity (1980) Fred Frith - Speechless (1981) Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report Throbbing Gristle - Third & final report Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats Well, actually I'd heard bits of these Throbbing Gristle albums over the years, but never heard them all the way through before. Friday evening played all three... it's getting a bit Edenesque going for all the same artist in one night! Didn't check what timings Frith & Kaiser were playing either, but I think they would pass the 'drrgrrrping' test! A neighbour thought TG-20JFG was 'freaky' and funnily enough left the flat when I put the 2nd annual report on. The fact that she is moving to Bristol on Monday is entirely unrelated. Funny that the most recent one 20JFG has dated so much more than the earlier two, although it does sound more 81 than 79! My friend who I borrowed them off said that the 2nd annual report was originally issued with the first side playing forwards... has it ever been reissued this way? Favourite TG track: Walls of Sound (well it had to be!) Does anyone want a cheap copy of the Kendall Turner Overdrive CD (#3.50)? Currently obliterating hangover by playing Acid Mothers Temple very loud! Lock up your hats! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:21:02 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] now spinning In a message dated 11/08/01 13:48:14 GMT Daylight Time, baltazar@panet.bits.net writes: > Simple Minds - Neon Lights ( Eagle ) . It will be out Sept.24 ! > > 01. Gloria ( Van Morrison ) > 02. The Man Who Sold The World ( David Bowie ) > 03. Homosapien ( Pete Shelley ) > 04. Dancing Barefoot ( Pattie Smith ) > 05. Neon Lights ( Kraftwerk ) > 06. Hello, I Love You ( The Doors ) > 07. The Needle & The Damage Done ( Neil Young ) > 08. Bring On The Dancing Horses ( Echo & The Bunnymen ) > 09. For Your Pleasure ( Roxy Music ) > 10. All Tomorrows Parties ( Velvet Underground ) > > ///////good god what a prospect. wonder if their "hello i love you" will be > up to the adam ant version? unlikely. and the prospect of jim tackling > homosapien sounds like another excruciating low point in his mostly > excrucitiatingly bad career. p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:38:13 EDT From: HeySean@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] now spinning ah well...it were a cassette weekend here: The Glove - Blue Sunshine The Cure - Carnage Visors Brian Eno & John Cale - Wrong Way Up Tuxedomoon - Desire Tuxedomoon - Ship of Fools Ramones - It's Alive The Stranglers - IV Rattus Norvegicus Colin Newman - Commercial Suicide PIL - PIL James Chance and the Contortions - Live in New York Stewart Copeland - Rumblefish (movie soundtrack) Joe Jackson - Mike's Murder (movie soundtrack) please understand...I don't really like this music...I only listen so that the other people on this list will think I'm cool. After all, I'm 42, clean and educated, and easily influenced by radio stations and clerks in music stores. If I had any guts at all I'd be listening to Wayne County and the Electric Chairs, Roogaltors, X Ray Spex, the Snivelling Shits, and John Otway. That is, if it's ok with you guys :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:53:58 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] analogue v. digital - the last word at the risk of re-introducing this over-covered topic i must share... http://whenlpsroamedtheearth.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:42:59 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] analogue v. digital - the last word >at the risk of re-introducing this >over-covered topic i must share... > >http://whenlpsroamedtheearth.com/index.html Umm, it doesn't work for me. Are you sure the URL is correct? Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:12:23 +0100 From: P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk Subject: [idealcopy] RE: OT Tuxedomoon << does anyone recommend any Tuxedomoon cds? >> This is a difficult one. There's a vast difference in the sound of many of their albums. I think there are probably three distinct periods (very Wire-like!). I personally rate their first LP "Half Mute" as their best, but the second "Desire" is also a corker. Holy Wars is pretty good, but shows a marked change in style (second period). Stay clear of their later works (too laid back for me) - although "The Ghost Sonata" has some wonderful tracks on it - and the video is OK. There is also "Joeboy In Mexico" which I'm just starting to appreciate - but this isn't Tuxedomoon (well strictly speaking, it is). Having said all this, perhaps the best place to start would be with the best of compilation "Solve Et Coagula", or the live double CD "Ten Years in One Night". Both feature tracks from most of the bands different periods. I'm not sure about availability on these. "Ten Years" was re-issued by the Italian label Materiali Sonori in 1998, and "Solve..." was issued by the Belgian label Cramboy in 1993. I would also recommend the double LP bootleg "Title X" (it does fit onto one CD). Trades welcome! Paul rezMole THE MOLES For all things Residential www.theresidents.co.uk PS This weekend I listened to Kilimanjaro - Teardrop Explodes (which I bought last week on vinyl for #5) Songs For Swinging Larvae - Renaldo and the Loaf. L.A.M.F - Heartbreakers (the original cassette version with a proper mix!) Warts 'N' All - Marc Riley & the Creepers ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #245 *******************************