From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #243 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, August 11 2001 Volume 04 : Number 243 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] ot - dm/leer/rental [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] OT Mark Stewart and the Mafia [John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] ot - dm/leer/rental [DM] > btw, next two singles will be " Free Love " > and "Goodnigt Lovers" Great: two duff tracks in a row. What is Mute thinking, espeically when there is a decent unreleased track on that album 'Shine'?... > and Dave will work next year on solo album w/guests > like Bjork, PJ Harvey... Erm... David Gaham is a mannequin -- he doesn't write anything... hmmm... > Thomas Leer - "Letter From America" kind of > a weirded out psychedelic and > mostly electronic crazy kind of pop record..... Is this available on CD anywhere? > explain robert rental to me? Elusive experimental popster, now sadly departed... Besides the Mute and Rough Trade stuff, did he do anything else? > i've only heard the tl/rr collaboration 'monochrome > days' + robert rental's 'double heart' 'Double Heart' is fantastic -- one of my all-time favourite tracks. > i have a great lp by Robert Rental and The Normal Due for reissue on the Grey Area since about 1992, but it never appeared... grrr... What's the album like? > What is Monochrome Days???? One of the best tracks on 'The Bridge' -- the Leer/Rental collaboration that's still available on CD from Mute Grey Area. www.mute.com Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://listen.to/veer SVA: http://welcome.to/snub - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] OT Mark Stewart and the Mafia > Mark Stewart and the Mafia - "Learning to Cope with > Cowardice"...dub reggae > On U Sound style meets paranoia and conspiracy > theories with stark > electronics and effects....also check out Mark > Stewart lp...it has a bizarre > cover version of David Sylvian and Ryuchi Sakamoto's > "Forbidden Colours"..... This is STUMM43 is it not? 'Survival' on there is an old Grandmaster Flash track and Donna Summer's 'I Feel Love' is mangled to death on the LP too. 'Hell is Empty' appears as an instrumental on K LeBlanc's Major Malfunction LP and on the Alternative Tentacles soundtrack LP to Terminal City Ricochet with Jello rather than Stewart talking over it. Anyway, IMO by far the best Stewart/Mafia LP. e.g. much better than the rather dull and repetitive Metatron. John Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:03:00 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Deconstructions of Gilbert & Lewis Robert lusted after....... Deconstruct (Blast First) Mesmer Variations (Ash International) Antiphony (Ash International) Touch Sampler # 3 (Touch) Decay (Ash International) Meridian #1 (Touch) cassette only... I have all these except the Touch cassette, but the Lewis track off that is on pre He (or is that the 2nd Meridian tape?). The Gilbert track from Meridian appears on The Haring. The AC Marias Whispered Year doesn't involve Gilbert (it's title describes it well...) The live at Disobey 2CD compilation 3 Fingers & a Fumb with a Gilbert & a Dome track is also well worth hearing if you can track one down (also has a very nice recording of Phill Niblock on it). Deconstruct is an amazing plunderphonic remoulding of the Blast First back catalog by Gilbert, Poss & Stenger, Stock Hausen & Walkman, Philip Jeck, Christian Marclay & John Oswald and if any of you ever see a copy snap it up quick as it's now quite rare (only 1000 were made). All of these are now out of print except Touch Sampler 3 & possibly the Decay comp which should be available direct from the Touch website. Touch Sampler 3 & Deconstruct & Antiphony are fine all the way through. Decay is worth buying too. Mesmer Variations gets a bit tedious... Lock up your hats! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:14:20 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Wire fans do not have to be clean! This is what Charles actually said in the interview for Wireviews: "C: You know there's this profile of a Wire fan that's pretty spot on. You're male, educated (though perhaps not formally), and you're a completist. Colin always said he thought it sad Wire didn't have more female fans." How did the word 'clean' end up in there? Goddam spell checkers! Graeme np Boredoms Super Roots 6 ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:15:34 EDT From: MrSodium@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - dm/leer/rental In a message dated Fri, 10 Aug 2001 7:38:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Wireviews writes: > > i have a great lp by Robert Rental and The Normal > > Due for reissue on the Grey Area since about 1992, but > it never appeared... grrr... What's the album like? Isn't this the one sided live release? If that's what you have in mind, it fits in well with what Cabaret Voltaire was doing at the same time (primitive electronic sound.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:09:50 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] i like the postman today! wow....what a great way to end a week.....in the mail i recieved cds from friends in the mail: John Foxx - Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour cd-r (ltd to 500 originally) Edward Ka-Spel - Chyekk/Aaazhyd China Doll double cd with bonus tracks Erasure - the singles Box Set 1&2 (i love Vince Clarke! i don't care what any of you say...he is a synth master..and a genius at the pop hook) Depeche Mode - I Feel Loved cd single with cover of Dirt by The Stooges...HEY! it's pretty darn good....not hard at all...it's still synths...in a brooding tone.... oh well....i love it all so it doesn't matter....i hope you all have a great weekend! Hopefully this weekend and next week will fly by, i am eager to road trip to Chicago to see Squarepusher/Plaid/Mira Calix at the Metro!...take care, Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:32:14 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Girls Who Like Wire Who Like Boys Who Like Wire Tim: and the lack of female contributions to this list does concern me //////////////////// Some light may be shed on this by the fact that my spouse makes fun of me for subscribing to this list. I do know at least one other female who loves Wire and has been my companion at all three Wire shows I saw last year and at the Garage dragged me backstage to try and persuade Colin and Graham to play in her native Iceland. //////////////////////////////////// I am not sure that Icelandic women constitute a good sample group (see Bjork) Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:38:38 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT; Joys of Music Collection Chaos Robert Lynn: Legendary Pink Dots - Premonition 5 /////////////////// Always wanted to pick up some stuff by these guys. What is a good starter for a CV/Kraftwerk/Neu etc. fan? Kraftwerk - Antenna>>>>>>actually, i think Radio-Activity is a very underrated album ////////////////////////////// Probably their most complete concept album. I like "Ohm sweet Ohm" the best Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:58:55 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: [idealcopy] tried to reply psychically (but it didn't work) Graeme asked but I took a long time replying: I know nothing of the band Psyche... do you think they would appeal to a fellow Neubauten & Wire fan? /////////////////////// hmmm, maybe a microphonies era cab v., soft cell, chrome fan. Check out 'Insomnia Theatre' and 'Unveiling the Secret'. They have just been re-released with extra trax. Also, if anyone is interested, their third LP Mystery Hotel was produced by a dude from Telex whose name escapes me. Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:08:58 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: [idealcopy] today i mostly listened to aphex twin- i care because you do radiohead- amnesiac (sorry, graeme. it's even better when driving) omd- navigation b-sides ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #243 *******************************