From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #206 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, July 7 2001 Volume 04 : Number 206 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] more ebay silliness [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT -- eBay [Wireviews ] Re: [idealcopy] more ebay silliness [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [idealcopy] OT -- eBay "Yes, I can find cool things on ebay. But the environment is as sterile and as clinical as being in an accountant's office going over tax sheltered annuities. I say no no no no no no Mr Suit!" I agree, the environment sucks, but I'd been travelling round various record fairs trying to get hold of Seefeel's 'Quique' when, lo and behold, it shows up on eBay, being sold by an American. I now have a copy and am a happy bunny... Since then I've found a whole bunch of things that I could never find in the "real world"... and sold some crap, too :-) Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://listen.to/veer SVA: http://welcome.to/snub - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:33:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [idealcopy] more ebay silliness On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, John Roberts wrote: > Paul > > These be the CDs with the catalogues numbers CDHAR1 > etc? Are these any different from the Enigma > versions? I had these - I remember there was an ugly little glitch somewhere in "I Am the Fly" that wasn't on either Rhino's DIY collection or on the remastered ones. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::In terms of the conjunctures of cultures, [LA is] less like a salad bowl ::and more like a TV dinner with those little aluminium barriers keeping ::all the vegetables in their places. __Catherine Ann Driscoll__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:57:11 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Symptoms of Immense Christian Foetal Humming New to my ears this week: Symptoms - Apathy (Swim) New album due out on Sept 17th. It's a much slower, low key and meditative affair than the debut and it sounds like V/Vm were driving their cars through the Swim studio during mixdown as revenge for the time that Colin & Malka allegedly tried to run them over on the big screen. Still assimilating... but safe to say that this is highly original and the only comparison I could possibly make is with another artist is Immersion's phenomenal Low Impact, although the mood here is darker. Like Touch, the Swim label is getting better & better. Thanks Colin! Fennesz & Rosy Parlane - Live (Synaesthesia) A cute 3" CD continuing the CNewman connection but a little more indirectly here, 2 tracks of genius guitar laptop mangled ambience which point the way forward via crackle, glitch and drone. It has been said elsewhere that Christian F is taking up the baton left dangling lazily by My Bloody Valentine. If you haven't heard Fennesz yet then you can pronounce yourself officially uncool at this point! Does anyone know anything about Rosy Parlane? Foetus - Flow (Nois-O-Lution) Begins & ends with the 2 best tracks the master of disaster Clint Ruin has ever recorded. His production skills are unparalleled. JG Thirlwell is one of the few rockpops demons who gets as much stereo field fuckery into his mixes as the stalwarts of the French Canadian electroacoustic scene. What's more it's possible that Flow was made in part from samples of other Foetus records, but don't quote me on that. It opens with the 2 most catchy poptones I've heard so far this year. Motor Humming - Musical Aluminum (Tzadik) Manic & quirky Japanese instrumental angle rock from the quality label of John Zorn. This trio don't really sound like anyone else, but you're as big a fan of Melt Banana, Boredoms & Ruins as I am, then it'll probably appeal and if they'd been Americans in the eighties they might well have been snapped up by SST. Great fun for a fiver! Immense - Evil Ones & Zeroes (Fat Cat) Pleasant Mogwai impressions can hardly be sniffed at for a quid, but I have to say I've heard the guitar thing done better many times before. Someone ought to show the 'kids' these days how to rock! We need more Wire gigs! When is the Atomsmasher tour? Don't miss Melt Banana in October! Immense might have it in them to make a great record but this isn't it. Bedhead - Transaction De Novo (Trance Syndicate) Their third and best - thanks Ian! The New Year album is even better though! If you liked the Velvet Underground, Galaxie 500 & Seam then it's a fair bet... Killing Joke - Pandemonium The only time I saw this lot live was at a festival around the time of this album and whilst they did fiery versions of Wardance & Requiem the new tracks certainly didn't make me want to rush out and buy this. I also saw much better sets from Shellac, Girls Against Boys & Bailter Space that day, whose records I did buy at the time. This was lurking in the library & I was curious... they appear to have been trying to cash in on the popularity of Ministry & there is one great intense track (Exorcism) but the best thing about this is Youth's acid tinged production and the arabic percussion. But don't pay more than 60p! Well a couple of quid maybe... Brian Eno - Nerve Net From about the same general time period as Pandemonium and about as dated & rather more bland. The last 2 tracks are quite nice though, especially the bit where the very scratched CD begins to lock & stutter (or is that Eno's glitch theory, a mode of escape from artistic mediocrity & repetition where aleatory machine elements play their hand?). There is so much better stuff around today I really can't be bothered with this. In fact there was a lot of better music around in 1992 as well, even on the major labels! Who needs mouldy old dough? Graeme ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 02:12:00 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Its hot! And I'm listening to POP! Oh dear folks, its Summer here in the UK which means those 3-4 weeks when the temperature jumps above the 20 degrees mark and I feel a bit light-headed. This means I suddenly find myself listening to breezy summery pop music and cursing my home country for not investing in air-conditioning in 99% of its buildings (due to the fact that for the other 48 weeks of the year over here its rainy and cold) Anyway, right now the following records make perfect sense, being as they are this years unexpected gems of pure, sunny pop excitement: Daft Punk - Discovery Basement Jaxx - Rooty The Avalanches - Since I Left You Super Furry Animals - Juxtaposed With You (this will be the first time the word 'Juxtaposed' has appeared in the hit parade I suspect) All came out this year and all combine instant pop breeziness with effortlessly fab production (in the same league as Phil Spector/Brian Wilson/Benny 'n' Bjorn/Giorgio Moroder/Trevor Horn) and very cleverly crafted popular songwriting. These records also have a warmth that scary Belgian/Luxemborgian Pop robots who write the songs for Hearsay/Steps/SclubSeven or dollar-sign-eyed US R&Bleee megatosspots severely lack. The Wire connection? These records sound frivolous and daft on the surface (intentionally?) but are actually very carefully made by very clever people....and I don't know bout 'choo but that makes me think of Pink Flag. All these acts have taken the current pop trends (House/2-Step/Vocoder-ised disco revivalism/late 70s AOR cheese) and run with the ball and taken it somewhere else, with a bit of a thoughtful ironic slant, just as Wire did with shouty punk (like Mr Suit) circa Pink Flag. I was only 6 at the time but I can imagine someone hearing Wire for the first time in 79 and recognising the physical, pogo-ing peaks of Pink Flag and recognising that also appreciating the depth that the rest of the LP had, just as I am currently enjoying the Daft Punk LP despite its many no-brain DJ-friendly moments. And the Kids love em! _________________________ The Kids Are a bit warm but otherwise alright http://www.kidsindestructible.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 23:43:47 EDT From: HeySean@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Its hot! And I'm listening to POP! OMG! Six?? (I was 19 when I was began listening to Wire - I don't mind saying I think it was the perfect age to begin listening to Wire) Well just for the sake of the predictable argument...what was happening for the rest of you surly lot when you were six? I was in first grade (1966) at St. Emydius (my parents were good Irish Catholics...or is that Catholic Irish? One can never be sure) and my decidely disturbed older brother and sister (did I mention we were Catholic? It explains so much) were digging the Beach Boys and the Fab Four and the Stones and Otis Redding and Wilson Pickett and Sonny and Cher and so on. Dad was playing Enoch Light and his Light Brigade and Billy Strange and all that 101 Strings Plays Modern Hits shit. So let's hear from you former 6 year olds...you all were at one time y'know. Tonight's Listening Pleasures Luxuria: Beast Box Style Council: Our Favorite Shop Incantation: Incantation Split Enz(sorta): Enzo Joe Jackson: Tucker soundtrack Chris Issak: San Francisco Days Buzzcocks: Time's Up ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 23:23:51 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Its hot! And I'm listening to POP! six? i remember about 3 songs from then ('65/'66 for me) ... tie me kangaroo down sport, the green green grass of home, & probably something from the beatles' cartoon show. add together an older mother, absent father & no older siblings, & that's pretty much what you get. *sigh* dan, fired today for the 2nd time in 5 months (guess i'm making up for my first 41 1/2 termination-free years) & not particularly pleased about it dan >OMG! Six?? (I was 19 when I was began listening to Wire - I don't mind >saying I think it was the perfect age to begin listening to Wire) Well just >for the sake of the predictable argument...what was happening for the rest of >you surly lot when you were six? I was in first grade (1966) at St. Emydius >(my parents were good Irish Catholics...or is that Catholic Irish? One can >never be sure) and my decidely disturbed older brother and sister (did I >mention we were Catholic? It explains so much) were digging the Beach Boys >and the Fab Four and the Stones and Otis Redding and Wilson Pickett and Sonny >and Cher and so on. Dad was playing Enoch Light and his Light Brigade and >Billy Strange and all that 101 Strings Plays Modern Hits shit. So let's hear >from you former 6 year olds...you all were at one time y'know. > >Tonight's Listening Pleasures >Luxuria: Beast Box >Style Council: Our Favorite Shop >Incantation: Incantation >Split Enz(sorta): Enzo >Joe Jackson: Tucker soundtrack >Chris Issak: San Francisco Days >Buzzcocks: Time's Up ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 04:22:44 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Its hot! And I'm listening to POP! In a message dated 07/07/01 02:21:10 GMT Daylight Time, timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: > I was only 6 at the time but I can imagine someone hearing Wire for the > first time in 79 It was even better in '77 ! Chris (pedantically) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #206 *******************************