From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #199 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, June 30 2001 Volume 04 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to... [kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] last night i mostly listened to... nothing. apart from overheard chat in a pub. conversation with work collegues over a passable indian meal. got home in time to see beckett's 'rockaby' on channel 4. not as good as the original version with billie whitelaw. saturday brings promise of 'waiting for godot'. will it be as good as the max wall version i saw some years ago? ===== kevin eden wmo limited, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wiremailorder.com "dreams that money can buy" Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 03:10:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A Question of Screech Degree Confession time: once did a gig in Leicester with two others (ex- Janitors/Yeah Yeah Noh) under the name of the Bimbles. Oddly enough supporting the Shamen when they'd just changed their name from Alone Again Or. Must have been 1986. Anyway, the 'music' was constructed by putting the vocals, a Dr Rythm drum machine and a bass guitar into a small mixing desk and wiring it to play it back thru the mixing desk (or something) and getting lots of nice distortion/feedback. We did a 15 minute medley of rock classics (Sabbath, Cream, Deep Freeze Mice...) wearing paper mache heads - I wonder where we could have got that idea from? Anyone who has old copies of the NME in their loft can find the review in there. (And I tell you what you don't half sweat under paper mache heads.) John - --- Graeme Rowland wrote: > Tim said > >>>>I take an interest/secret admiration in japanese > blokes who make music feeding back wires into a > mixing > desk, (maybe not enough to actually spend too much > time listening to the results...I've tried it at > home > and it just goes screeeeeeech) > > This reminds me of a story about a Jimi Hendrix > roadie > who picked up Jimi's guitar and couldn't get > anything > but a howl of feedback from it no matter how hard he > tried, whereas Hendrix could get all sorts of > different noises and melodies from it. > > There are of course various different degrees of > screech and Arlo of Villa 21 (a Mancunian who plays > no > input mixer) gets very dense drones and noises which > I > wouldn't call 'screeches', and sounds pretty > different > to the more zenlike meditative high pitches Nakamura > deftly manipulates. > > I've also heard Nakamura get beats/pulses from his > mixer. > > Admit it, you haven't actually heard him or > Toshimaru > Nakamura perform have you? I'm not saying you'd > enjoy > it... > > Practice Makes Perfect! > Graeme > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC > Gilbert > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:53:27 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A Question of Screech Degree << Confession time: once did a gig in Leicester with two others (ex- Janitors/Yeah Yeah Noh) under the name of the Bimbles. Oddly enough supporting the Shamen when they'd just changed their name from Alone Again Or. Must have been 1986. Anyway, the 'music' was constructed by putting the vocals, a Dr Rythm drum machine and a bass guitar into a small mixing desk and wiring it to play it back thru the mixing desk (or something) and getting lots of nice distortion/feedback. We did a 15 minute medley of rock classics (Sabbath, Cream, Deep Freeze Mice...) wearing paper mache heads - I wonder where we could have got that idea from? Anyone who has old copies of the NME in their loft can find the review in there. (And I tell you what you don't half sweat under paper mache heads.) John //////hey , i wish i'd seen that. why just the one gig? i never saw yeah yeah noh but i did see the janitors once. though that must have been a couple of years after 86 i'd guess so post-bimbles. is the performance taped for posterity? p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:57:57 EDT From: Hatsephsut@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Work for it - Oh Man, is this OFF TOPIC In a message dated 6/27/01 3:49:09 AM Central Daylight Time, owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: << Oh please...like men don't already dedicate every minute of every day to working for "it." Or maybe that's just me. ;-) >> If the prize is worth having....... A girl's got to keep a guy on his toes, nice to know my sisters are giving you a run for your, er, effort :-) - but you know, there's a difference between working for *it* and *working for it* - and Dan over there is about to learn the difference - he's obviously already learned to *work for it* since his lovely lady has been coming back for more for quite some time now - but - if she *really* wants to play that album at his place and he keeps refusing, he'll be working for *it* like he never worked for *it* before - probably won't get *it* till...oh....I don't know.... Hell Freezes Over maybe? Laurel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:23:34 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Health Warning (Act Today) Sharing pins & needles can spread PROGS and boogititis. Too much Genesis is bad for the elf. Better to turn to Revelations. It might not be the deadliest Killing Joke but that synthnoise on 'The Pandy's Are Coming' is worth more to me than the squalid warblings of the angle Gabriel. Here's my excellent playlist because I'm so cool Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear Abba - Arrival Sham 69 - Thats Life Limp Bizkit - Starfish thingy Joe Jackson plays the best Polish Polka hits Johnny Ball's playschool breaks & beats Klaus Wunderlich & his magic organ Hicks from the sticks (inc Section 25 & Clock DVA) The Lurkers - Fullham Fallout Don McClean - American Pie Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker Suite The Best of the Spinners Bleache - the Blondie remixes Carter the Unmentionable Sock Machine - Mannequin (best Wire cover ever) Su Pollard - Starting Together 7" Well, I 're-evaluted my music taste' and found that as usual I was WRONG! Anyone want a copy of 154? I feel rather uncool owning it because this band have been featured in The Wire magazine 3 times at least. You'll be sorry when the sun has roasted you, Graeme ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:46:11 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Health Warning (Act Today) Oh lordy! Graeme's had a complete breakdown....must be because Radiohead were on the cover of the Wire...and they didn't print any of his letters!! :-) Mark PS - which Spinners? The kumbiya folkies or the superior Detroit version? << Sharing pins & needles can spread PROGS and boogititis. Too much Genesis is bad for the elf. Better to turn to Revelations. It might not be the deadliest Killing Joke but that synthnoise on 'The Pandy's Are Coming' is worth more to me than the squalid warblings of the angle Gabriel. Here's my excellent playlist because I'm so cool Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear Abba - Arrival Sham 69 - Thats Life Limp Bizkit - Starfish thingy Joe Jackson plays the best Polish Polka hits Johnny Ball's playschool breaks & beats Klaus Wunderlich & his magic organ Hicks from the sticks (inc Section 25 & Clock DVA) The Lurkers - Fullham Fallout Don McClean - American Pie Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker Suite The Best of the Spinners Bleache - the Blondie remixes Carter the Unmentionable Sock Machine - Mannequin (best Wire cover ever) Su Pollard - Starting Together 7" Well, I 're-evaluted my music taste' and found that as usual I was WRONG! Anyone want a copy of 154? I feel rather uncool owning it because this band have been featured in The Wire magazine 3 times at least. >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:17:41 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] today's menu my playlist for today: luna-the days of our nights the fall-cerebral caustic circle x-celestial bailter space-tanker alesini & andreoni-marco polo scenic-the spheres david gray-white ladder gavin friday-adam & eve - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #199 *******************************