From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #113 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, April 15 2001 Volume 04 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists ["Stephen Jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] post-whore [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] OT: Eater [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists ["ian jackson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:12:19 +0100 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists >ok, i give in... >here's what i've been listening to this week. So do I. For one week only: Beck: Midnight Vultures (co-incidence!) Beck: Odelay Ruts: You Gotta Get Out of It (all the talk sent me back to it! Now playing.) Talk Talk: The Colour of Spring Donna Summer: Greatest Hits Manic Street Preachers: The Holy Bible The Beat: I Just Can't Stop It U2: October Bow Wow Wow: Greatest Hits XTC: Transistor Blast Howard Devoto: Jerky Versions of the Dream Buzzcocks: Time's Up Alabama 3: Harbour Road Wire: Document & Eyewitness Echo and the Bunnymen: Heaven Up Here Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They use the head and not the fist. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:43:36 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists In a message dated 14/04/01 03:17:46 GMT Daylight Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > Meat Puppets - II > ////////// now funnily enough i've had that in my car all week. the good tracks are classics but i think kurt chose the right ones for nirvana....... plateau/field of fire are so good. are the other MP albums up to this standard? p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] post-whore Charles wrote: "funny this has been proposed to the list a few times before, including by yours truly. I'm sure I could host the files on the wiremailorder site, but perhaps setting up a MP3.com site would be equally advantagous. apparantly however that it must not be that great of an idea!" Well, I'd be up for doing something... I do a mean acoustic guitar version of Brazil that'd make your toes curl. I could always resurrect my Marooned, too. Anyone else? C ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Eater For my sins I have never seen the Punk Rock Movie. By Wirey I mean that they sort of went a bit more poppy, had I am the Fly bass lines and flanged guitar. The singer sounds like Colin - a bit. John - --- PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 13/04/01 18:37:44 GMT Daylight > Time, > johnroberts_stats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Eater and Unwanted are on the Roxy LP. Later > Eater > > sounds like they were trying to do a Wire? Beats > > their attempts at being Velvet Underground I > suppose. > > > > > > ////////// god i hate eater , to me they were the > real arse-end of 77. the > "punk rock movie" clip of the singer chopping up a > pig's head with an axe > always summed them up for me. i didn't realise they > had a later "mature" > phase. any better? p Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:20:51 +0100 From: "ian jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists sorry Paul, that's the only lp of theirs i'm familiar with because of the Nirvana thing!! maybe someone else on the list can help out? cheers, ian. >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >To: iansjackson@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] off topic - playlists >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:43:36 EDT > >In a message dated 14/04/01 03:17:46 GMT Daylight Time, >iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Meat Puppets - II > > > >////////// now funnily enough i've had that in my car all week. the good >tracks are classics but i think kurt chose the right ones for >nirvana....... >plateau/field of fire are so good. are the other MP albums up to this >standard? p > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:06:08 +0100 From: Tim Robinson Subject: [idealcopy] Autechre :The Tyranny of the Beat (OT) My apologies to listees, but I know some of you like Autechre as well, and Crack'd Machine@Yahoo & I both attended an Autechre event last night which has left me a bit puzzled. Allow me to canvas monsieur Rowlands opinion of this and delete if you don't like Aw-tekk-er, him or me....hey its eastertide its gonna be quiet anyway! and of course please chip in if you've seen em live (were we the only ICers there?)......and also maybe this raises some questions listees may be interested in about music and the impact of the venue/context. Compare Wire at the RFH to Wire at the Garage or whatever small US venue you saw them at last year..... - -------------------------------------------- So GR, we rarely agree on anything but what did you think of Autechre last night? Last time I saw them they were spellbinding! I thought the first couple of tracks were great, but I wished they would have let the kick drum subside and it never did....! They seemed afraid to let the beats go haywire (like a circus falling down a flight of stairs) lest they let down the dancing pill-munchers. But from where I was stood most of the chemical crowd had left, head-scratching in search of water for their ravaged kidneys to wait for DJ Conventional to return to the stage and play some more early 90s House faves. This left the strange array of industrial weirdys, sigue-sigue-goths, bruce gilbertesque artniks in sober suits, electronica trainspotters and ambient mongers in the crowd expecting the intricate melody, and sheer musical invention (yet retaining a gleaming electro-sheen, no matter how undanceable) that Ae are on record, to wonder why they felt the need to mask all the (entirely new as usual) music with that bloody numbskull bass drum. I would have hapilly done the eardrum buzz to whatever atonal, arythmic nonsense they could chuck at us but they played it 'safe'. Bastards! They didn't do that last time! I can only assume this was due to the Chameleon nature of the band adapting to their surroundings, which in this case was a 'Skam Block Party' (read club night run by goatee-bearded track-suit wearing 30 something Mancunian men who wish they could be teenage New York B-boys in the halycon days of electro 80-82 dreaming of BMX bikes and f**KING star wars and F***king snowboards). All this in the club formerly known as Rafters where Joy Division got their big break. The pilled-up, petty theives in front of me were wondering why they weren't playing 'f**kin techno'. Hmmm! Perhaps their gig at the Brixton Fridge was better (I believe this was more of traditional gig structure and ended at midnight, before a crowd who had come specifcally to hear Autechre rather than any old beats). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 04:01:24 +0100 From: Tim Robinson Subject: [idealcopy] Another the lister (Depeche-Pop as Good as Wirepop?) This week I have mostly been listening to: Stereolab - Emporer Tomato Ketchup - Kraftwerk/Wire/Suicide/Serge gainsbourg..IC-ers start here if you don't know them. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (I've got these arms and legs and legs a flip flop flip flop....boy that sounds swell!...and presuambly Klive agreed!)....Forken great! ACR - Must thank Ian for helping to rekindle my enjoyment of this marvellous band (A comp of The Fox/Flight/Shack-Up/Knife Slits Water etc...all essential listen for Our Swimmers!) Wire - Coatings . One thing puzzles me...the sleeve of this is apalling crap but the sleeve of its companion piece Turns & Strokes is one of the best in the history of popular music. Hmmm! The Avalanches - Since I Left You LP. one of those records that is too nice, like Pet Sounds....use sparingly! One thing struck me today. I walked into a record store in Manchester and there were three men, not much older than me (28) dressed as Mods listening to old Motown 7"s. They looked at me scornfully as I waded through the punk section looking for a copy of Dot Dash (for a Wire sceptic friend). Lousy Pathetic Retrograde bastards should listen to this......Pure class and its pure pop and its new! I got Dot Dash and my friend loved it and is gonna buy the 3cd box set! Chris Clark - Clarence Park - Nice and Noisy Warp Electronica....Dome Fans may like and its only #6 Depeche Mode - Singles 81/85-86-98 - I'm not really a massive fan of these reformed rock pigs but what electropop giants, and what grrrrrreat pop singles ...and Martin Gore has such as way with a chord/melody which only listening back to ver Mode, do I realise that he has infected me as a writer! And surely the only 80s band who can rival Wire for twisted, subversive pop singles are Depeche Mode? V/A An Imaginary Singles Club - Gooom Disques (Cat: Gooom 10CD)..and who is that track one side one? By jingo its me and my band....along with lots of other top-knotch eurpoean electronic artistes.....stop me and buy one! www.gooom.com Paaaaarp! Whats that? Why thats me blowing my own trumpet! Hey its Easter after all! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:14:28 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: [idealcopy] OffTopic: New Cale JOHN CALE: Sun Blindness Music. Couldn't find any info about this new release. Does anyone know anything about it? giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #113 *******************************