From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #94 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, March 28 2001 Volume 04 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Punk Was Dead (Again) [Mark Short ] RE: [idealcopy] Whitechapel Gallery Events ["giluz" ] RE: [idealcopy] Punk Was Dead (Again & again & again) ["giluz" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk Was Dead (Again) Graeme Rowland wrote: > > Giluz said > >>>>Attempts to make music based on mathematical > equations exist in modern classical music, and is > basically one of the main reasons why people don't > write good classical stuff anymore. > > Pierre Henry and Bernard Parmegiani still write good > stuff. > Is that classical though? > Is Luigi Nono still with us? > No, he died about ten years ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:32:56 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Whitechapel Gallery Events > CONTINUITY DISOBEY > > > Late June - Early July 2001 > > The Whitechapel is working closely with Mute Records to create an > exhilarating and challenging programme of contemporary art, music > and dance. > Collaborators include renowned choreographer and dancer Michael Clark, > artist Cerith Wyn Evans teamed with Wire, Finnish band Panasonic working > with Carsten Nicolai, and many others. Is this the automn London gig Colin was talking about, or is it something different (June-July isn't really automn, I know)? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:41:04 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Punk Was Dead (Again & again & again) > >>>>By the time I watched Nirvana smash guitars at the > MTV awards I realised that punk-rock was dead. If > there was any single band/artist responsible for this > it would be them. > > Punk died in 1977. Guilty: The Clash. > It died again in 1978. > And then in 1979 punk was pushing up the daisies. > 1980 - punk kicked the bucket! > It was wormfood by '81. > 1982 saw punk shuffle off this mortal coil. > By 1983, punk had had in its chips. > Punk mortified in nineteen eighty FORE! I meant punk in the broader sense of the word, i.e. the punk attitude and most of the things it's led to - there certainly is a straight line going from punk to new wave and the alternative/indie scene of the 1980's. And when I said it died I meant that the music industry has finally managed to sink its sharp teeth in it and turn it into an integral part of its money-making machine. giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #94 ******************************