From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #82 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, March 19 2001 Volume 04 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] OT Online Stores ["Andrew Lumbard" ] [idealcopy] "Eardrum Buzz" as a single ["sean bowen" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT Online Stores Chris, << Does anyone know of decent online CD stores apart from Carbondisks and Sister Ray? >> Try www.gemm.com - massive selection drawn from independent stores around the world, with new and used stuff. You might also like to try http://www.highway61.co.uk/system/index.html based in Wolverhampton, and specialising in alt.country and power pop if you're into that sort of thing. AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:13:18 -0000 From: "sean bowen" Subject: [idealcopy] "Eardrum Buzz" as a single Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:26:51 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Illuminated Eardrum Schism (Fruit) John said >>>>They must have foreseen that Eardrum Buzz was potentially their most commercially viable product for a long time. >Actually, Wire wanted 'In Vivo' out as a single and >'EBuzz' was only put out at the request of Daniel >Miller. Colin was also unsatisfied with Rico Conning's >sampling on the original version of 'In Vivo', and >insisted on redoing it for the eventual single >release. I remember reading this in Kevin's book. Personally, I think Miller was right, and the band were wrong. "Eardrum Buzz" was a terrific single with a wonderful video. With a little more hype it could have been a big chart hit, up there with "Made of Stone" as the indie single of Summer '89, and given Wire the success they deserved after years of hard work. Just because a song is "accessible" and "catchy" it's not necessarily any less worthy. "Kidney Bingos", "In Vivo" and "The Offer" are all pleasant, but no way were they hit singles material. When "Manscape" came out, and was clearly less "commercial" than the previous releases, I took it to mean that Wire were in despair of never breaking it big; if they couldn't chart with "Buzz", then they might as well give up trying to make ever more perfect pop songs and try a completely new direction. The book proved me wrong; their motivations were not as I assumed at all. As has so often been the case..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:16:54 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] golden anorak etc In a message dated 17/03/01 22:26:55 GMT Standard Time, Mark Bursa writes: > Shaky covered Roy Orbisonbs Blue Bayou, sampled by Lewis on He Said Omalabs > Matching Crosses > > /////// well that's a good possibility now i think about it , sad to say my knowledge of shaky's output is less than encyclopaedic so i can't totally say this didn't happen. but , as the saying goes , not the answer we're looking for. further clue ; the link is thru just mr gotobed........... p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:21:17 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] radiohead gig (OT) saw an ad in the guardian yesterday for a big radiohead gig in the summer , july 7th at something called south park , oxford. support beck (solo) plus others "to be announced". #27.50 a pop. sadly i won't be there as i'm committed to a trip to england/australia cricket at edgbaston that day , shame as i'd have fancied it. guess this will appeal to a fair few of you guys in my absence........... ..........and when exactly is this venice biennale thing anyway? p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:48:55 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] where's shaky these days anyway? He is lurking behind the green door, but occasionally abducts unwitting noise pop offal wafflers. V/Vm were trying to make a retrospective compilation documenting the death of electronica but got abducted and were quite shocked to find out what Shakey had been hiding behind his green door for all those years. The V/Vm boys were having a knees up with some pensioners at Stockport Town Hall when an aging Shakey appeared and asked them to help him crowbar his green door. He'd been locked out and had had to do the old hits to thirty pensioners at Butlins routine, but knew V/Vm were the lads to help, being good at breaking and entering and protected by their special copyright laws VVMCPS. The green door hid a hideous secret, a historical musical dumping ground. There they found a giant crab who thinks he's Craig David, sixty foot tall German crooners, the A-Team, Jim Bergerac, Jimmy Nail and the best of the worst... Only with the help of comedy duo Cannon and Ball could they escape the clutches of the satanic foaming Shakey, and bring back a flourescent green CD document of snapshots of an aural atrocity exhibition... only #4.99 from all the worst shops... when they played 'Atmosphere' it was Russ Abbot, not Ian Curtis who shook. More garbage here: http://brainwashed.com/vvm A Wire / Shakey connection? P'o - Blind Tim : 'Shake & take it, shake & take it' Maybe climbing thieves had stolen behind the green door? Maybe there is a green door on Robert Grey's barn? Maybe Graham Lewis has a secret double life as an Elvis impersonator? The clues are all there in the song 'Kidnap Yourself' if you're silly enough to look for them! "The hat is yours, the hat is yours Hat-baby, hat-baby This is hopeless We find this is becoming gay It was always fun!" Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:46:03 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] where's shaky these days anyway? In a message dated 18/03/01 18:52:37 GMT Standard Time, crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk writes: > A Wire / Shakey connection? > > Maybe there is a green door on Robert Grey's barn? > > //////// or maybe not. but in an earlier life mr grey did most certainly > undertake some shaky-related activities. the truth will soon be > told......... p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:52:47 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] where's shaky these days anyway? Paul, the suspense is killing me. Please, tell all! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:15:30 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] where's shaky these days anyway? In a message dated 18/03/01 19:56:31 GMT Standard Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > Paul, > > the suspense is killing me. Please, tell all! > > Mark > ///////// ok , i will reveal. i am slowly collecting mute 7" singles when i see them cheap , i bought one off a guy thru ebay. he then offerred me the sleeve only of a real rarity for $10. my initial thought was not to bother , then i figured i probably wouldn't see it again so i bought it. and the record is...... "teenage head" by the snakes , featuring robert gotobed on vocals. flip the sleeve and the credit is "piano played by ace skudder , courtesy shakin stevens and the sunsets". now that really made me laugh ; wire and shaky in one easy step! sadly i do not have the record to comment further. but the sleeve is a cracker. the band are up against a corrugated iron fence. rob looks well cool , arms folded in a black leather jacket staring into the middle distance. the guy next to him is mr utterly uncool ; pie loving , side parting , white flared suit. the other 2 look like biker types. so somebody tell me what the snakes sounded like? the record was produced by nick garvey , he was in the motors i think. so i guess we're talking pub rock?p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #82 ******************************