From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #76 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, March 13 2001 Volume 04 : Number 076 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Wire "hits" ["Jerry Butson" ] [idealcopy] Other window/HMV [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] Lewis pan sonic 'I've got it under my skin'/Eardrum Buzz/drag my canal whoops missus [Howard Sp] [idealcopy] Re:hats ["squonk" ] [idealcopy] re: lyrics ["squonk" ] [idealcopy] re: US Charts ["squonk" ] [idealcopy] Stop Taking Orders From His Master's Voice! [=?iso-8859-1?q?G] Re: [idealcopy] Other window/The Haring ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] tv date update ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:16:20 -0000 From: "Jerry Butson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire "hits" I remember Simon Bates (middle aged bespectacled DJ ex of the national radio 1 station) playing Eardrum Buzz once or twice. He may have been a gobshite but sometimes he would play tunes that no one else would. j - ----- Original Message ----- From: Wireviews To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Wire "hits" > "Trainspotters point - Eardrum Buzz WAS a hit in the > UK - got to no 73! Now then, now then, rattle-rattle, > jewellery-jewellery, cigar-cigar etc." > > Thanks, Jim :-) > > Well, "hit" is top 100, I guess, but afaik, the only > Wire top 40 was 154, which got to 39 in the UK album > charts. According to some photocopy I grabbed from a > big discog book, Chairs Missing got to 49 and Outdoor > Miner 51 before it was pulled... > > Erm... time to remove "trainspotter hat". > > > > C > > > > > ===== > ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- > http://welcome.to/wireviews > News, reviews and dugga. > > Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub > Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer > -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Other window/HMV >>Curiously my favourite Wire lyric is >>one of Bruce's- "The Other Window" One of Wire's best (and most harrowing) images. A couple of people I know weren't sure if they knew Wire, but knew this song, just by remembering the horse "fataly tangled..." >>buyers at hmv.co.uk are recommending as >> "next buys" for fans of various Wire LPs ... >> >> On Returning ... >> Electronic - Electronic >> Elastica - Elastica >> Everley Brothers - Lucille and Other Hits Hahahahaha! Electronic? Hahahahaha! Nice one. Now where's the real list? C ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:57:59 +0000 From: Howard Spencer Subject: [idealcopy] Lewis pan sonic 'I've got it under my skin'/Eardrum Buzz/drag my canal whoops missus Right, this is very exciting as far as I am concerned because when Lewis and Gilbert did their DJ thing at the Oxford museum of modern art about a year ago they did `I've got it (sic) under my skin' (not a live vocal with GL in a lounge suit, unfortunately). It was really good, very funny. I went up and asked GL if there were plans to release it - he shook his head and laughed (the sonic barrage made non verbal communication easiest!). So does anyone know where I can get hold of this 'ere CD that came with a Swedish magazine? Graeme? RE Eardrum Buzz - it got to no 73 in the UK charts, not US. Apologies if I typoed. Tying in another thread - didn't they write a verse each for this? If so, whose is whose, and is this Robert's only contribution in this department? I seem to think Kevin's book credits Bruce with `scratch your name on the walls of the cave'. Re drag my canal, you saucy old salt - this is one of the lines that me and my wire fan mate Chris (not on list) serenade one another with on big nights out; others being `to speak and let my words come round' and the first verse of `a mutual friend'. But you probably have to be there to appreciate it. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:19:32 -0600 From: "squonk" Subject: [idealcopy] Re:hats trainspotters wear hats? don't they interfere with the anorak hood? planespotter d (in chi) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:37:15 -0600 From: "squonk" Subject: [idealcopy] re: lyrics my .02 i enyoy popmusic lyrics best when i haven't a clue what they are about ever better when i don't understand the language hence my great affair with japanese popmusic and portugese is one of the most beautiful languages sung i make it a point to avoid translations, as they almost always dissappoint btw thanks to all for the vic reeves background - purchased 'i will heal you' for $3 on the strength of the 'steve beresford, his piano and orchestra' credit i remember punk rock is worth the price - the remainder is .... shudder ... indeed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:30:09 -0600 From: "squonk" Subject: [idealcopy] re: US Charts Actually all that indicates is a moderate interest on the part of the distributer at that time. Pre-Soundscan, US charts were derived from phonecalls to record store clerks who mad up list of whole fabric, depending on what incentives the label staff were offering that week and a vague smattering of (subjective) real sales data. Another factor was these figures were often based on incoming shipments, exclusive of returns, so when a horrible pressing of say, the latest def lepard album, actually sold 15 copies in our little store, we had to order 4 boxes of 25 to keep it in stock (as 3/4 were (physically) warped) if it were not for soundscan, i am confident 'nevermind' would have languished in the below the top40 as well. >So "Eardrum Buzz" got to #73 in the US Chart ? >Does this mean that Americans appreciate good music better than Brits after all ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:16:49 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Stop Taking Orders From His Master's Voice! Hence the dog awoke... Well it's obviously not for nothing that the discerning customers at HMV are renowned for their extensive musical knowledge & good taste, but what the hell is >>>>Public Image Ltd - PIL? Could they mean 'First Issue'? Or 'Album'? Or is it the CD box set buy-it-all-again-to-get the Peel session bargain yeh? >>>>XTC get "Pyromania" - Def Leppard and "fourth Drawer Down" - the Associates for "Fossil Fuel"and "Ultravox !" - Ultravox and "Solo 10 CD box set" - Freddie Mercury Well, Andy Partridge would look a teensy bit like Freddie Mercury if he grew a handle bar moustache and gadded about in a string vest then maybe he could do a Queen tribute with wotsisname 'Arry May? I think Wire should now plum for that coveted Madonna support slot and learn to croon a bit so that they can fit Thorn EMI's coprorate-ulent agenda and not confuse the public with tiresome concepts such as 'originality'. Then again, maybe not. We can't blame the public though. Look at the limited choice on the shelves of Manchester HMV. They even have the nerve to pretend Kraftwerk CD's are all German imports, and charge extra for them, when they're not! Altogether now, to the tune of Joy Division's 'Exercise One': Are you looking for life In a shrinkwrapped shop? Security spies Hike up the price of it all Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:36:01 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Other window/The Haring - ----- Original Message ----- From: Wireviews To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Other window/HMV > >>Curiously my favourite Wire lyric is > >>one of Bruce's- "The Other Window" > > One of Wire's best (and most harrowing) images. A > couple of people I know weren't sure if they knew > Wire, but knew this song, just by remembering the > horse "fataly tangled..." > I found the section on The Haring concerning the horse and rider who leap to their deaths from a railway bridge an interesting companion piece. Was the recurring theme of horse/railway/train/death intentional or coincidental? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:07:05 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] i love the matrix (wire, and ON TOPIC) so, who likes to look at their records sideways and read the words etched into the run-off (that is the matrix, right?)? anyway, i was playing the album "on the other hand" by fourwaycross. hadn't played it in a while, so i glanced at the matrix. lo and behold! it says "oh what a pearl" right there in the vinyl. of course i had to flip it right over to read what i already knew would be on the b-side... what a well made world, indeed. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:04:53 +0000 From: Tim Robinson Subject: [idealcopy] Silo Want to X You/Autechre Got a nice parcel from Swim today containing a 7" Silo single which is 'K2' off the new LP backed by a Colin Newman remix of 'Prime Movers'. Its twice the speed of the original and very much in the Twelve Times U vein so if you liked that you'll like this ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:28:31 -0600 From: "squonk" Subject: [idealcopy] tv date update this just in: TELEVISION has added a London show for Easter: April 15, at the SHEPPARD'S BUSH EMPIRE. Now there are a total of four (4) Television dates: Camber Sands April 8, Gijon Spain April 12, London April 15 and Chicago May 10. Hold on to your hats (graham ^_^), more to follow... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:21:17 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv date update > this just in: > TELEVISION has added a London show ... I hadn't heard about this. Is this *the* Television? Tom Verlaine, Richard Lloyd, et al? (Not that I can get to England to catch these shows, but still -- that's pretty cool news.) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #76 ******************************