From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #64 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, March 2 2001 Volume 04 : Number 064 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia [Woerner Fran] Re: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia [Chris.Ra] AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia [Woerner Fran] Re: [idealcopy] Lewis and the Radiohead connection (?) [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: Wire - the movie [Howard Spencer ] [idealcopy] YMG/Raincoats gig cancelled [John Roberts ] [idealcopy] RUNE LINDBLAD (1923-1991) ["Jan J Noorda" /////// worlds worst band of tragic actors ; bowie/sting/adam ant/phil > collins. with roger daltrey and the kemp bros on standby. actually you're > struggling to think of a rock star who didn't make a fool of himself on the > screen. be fun seeing bowie do an "eardrum buzz". p I'm glad Ian Dury wasn't included in your list. Thankfully, he didn't appear in Miami Vice either! C The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:31:56 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk [mailto:Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2001 11:36 > An: Wilson, Paul > Cc: 'idealcopy@smoe.org' > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 > > > Were not all submitting last nights playlist. I find it quite > interesting / > intriguing that someone is still playing KMFDM ;-) BTW, as KMFDM are a German group I'll tell you what it means: "Kein Mitleid fuer die Mehrheit" ... you might try some translate bot now ... otherwise I'll translate it for you with my next posting. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:38:37 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia And I always thought it was Kill Muther Fucking Depeche Mode. Not that I agree with that you understand. C Woerner Frank on 01/03/2001 10:31:56 To: "'idealcopy@smoe.org'" cc: (bcc: Chris Ray/IT/MEDAS) Subject: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk [mailto:Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2001 11:36 > An: Wilson, Paul > Cc: 'idealcopy@smoe.org' > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 > > > Were not all submitting last nights playlist. I find it quite > interesting / > intriguing that someone is still playing KMFDM ;-) BTW, as KMFDM are a German group I'll tell you what it means: "Kein Mitleid fuer die Mehrheit" ... you might try some translate bot now ... otherwise I'll translate it for you with my next posting. Frank The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:32:49 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ... some trivia > And I always thought it was Kill Muther Fucking Depeche Mode. > Not that I > agree with that you understand. > > C Nice try but not quite right ... ;-)) and, about "Rick's lists": I often almost commented about his selection but somehow never did so ...all I did when I saw him listening to "Foxtrot" from Genesis was thinking " oh my goooood ..." Frank ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:14:44 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Lewis and the Radiohead connection (?) Alyce, << since it IS the 28th of February, you can see how I was obligated to play part of the live Joy Division album Preston 28 February 1980. Yeah! I was three days old then! woohooo...... >> ....and I was at the gig ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:50:49 +0000 From: Howard Spencer Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire - the movie Bruce - Pete Pothleswaite (can't spell that) Colin - David Thewlis or Mark Thomas (don't know if the latter can act, but that never stopped many) Malka - Ally Sheedy Angela Conway - err ... Caroline Aherne? George Gill - Ade Edmondson Daniel Miller - Danny Baker EMI Mr suits - Ian Whatshisname who played the `you may say that I couldn't possible comment' politician Robert - the bloke in that advert for after eight mints who looks like a hawk - i.e. Robert. Graham - Vinnie Jones Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:03:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: [idealcopy] YMG/Raincoats gig cancelled I don't know whether you knew this already people.... - --- Motion Records wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:53:48 +0000 > To: newsletter@motionrecords.com > From: Motion Records > Subject: Vic latest > > ****************************************************** > ROUGH TRADE GIG UPDATE: > > Unfortunately this ill-fated gig has now been > cancelled: > > One of Young Marble Giants took ill and The > Raincoats pulled out. As a > consequence, Rough Trade cancelled the gig without > telling Nectarine No 9 > (train tickets, rehearsals costs etc having been > incurred). > > ********************************************************************** > The good news is that Vic has finished mixing the > first few tracks of his > new album and is excited about them. I still haven't > heard anything yet so > wait with breath bated! > ********************************************************************** > > > > All the best > > James Dutton > > > Motion Records > South West London > United Kingdom > +++++++++++++++++++++ > Website: http://www.motionrecords.com > email: jd@motionrecords.com > FAX 020 8767 0638 > R.A.W. Member #1240 > +++++++++++++++++++++ > http://www.ultimatecharts.com Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:12:42 -0800 (PST) From: Squonk Upholstery Subject: [idealcopy] Re: OT - ETC - Lists in Lists I concur with the general opinion that as long as Rick cares to share, that's all well and good. It probalbly would not make a good trend for all of us to join in to tho ;) I would like to repeat a comment which comes up all too frequently on every list (it seems) PLEASE limit quotes to a relevant line or two. Digest readers get dizzy trying to find your one line addition to 50 lines of quoted text. This small amount of effort on the your part in replying to a post will save hours of effort on the parts of the hundreds of readers. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:25:30 EST From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] menswear PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: >>ps talking of colin impersonations , i wonder what >>that guy from menswear is doing now. "between >>engagements" possibly? ah, people make fun of me for having that menswear cd, yet i must say "daydreamer" is a dead on representation of what wire wouldve sounded like...if they were bubblegum pop :) they actually released a 2nd album, only in japan. it didnt have any colin impersonations though. ~michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:06:00 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V4 #63 >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:34:01 -0600 >From: "dMc" >Subject: [idealcopy] OT: cross-polination > >i know from past postings there are a few television fans here: >from the TV list: >sounds like a familiar agenda, no? >"Now there are three shows. The ATP festival in England April 8, A >festival in Gijon, Spain on April 12, and at a festival in Chicago on >May 10 at the Metro. Hope to see you at these shows. " OK, I can breathe again. Took a minute to recover. Any ticket info, now or in the future, please post. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:53:10 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] roxy tour well for anyone interested i see in the droitwich advertiser (i kid you not) an advert for roxy music at the NEC , tickets #32.50 or #30. i am just so untempted by this idea.p ps graeme would you pse mail me , have you changed your address? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:21:26 -0600 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL Chris wrote: > /////// worlds worst band of tragic actors ; bowie/sting/adam ant/phil > collins. with roger daltrey and the kemp bros on standby. actually you're > struggling to think of a rock star who didn't make a fool of himself on the > screen. be fun seeing bowie do an "eardrum buzz". p I'm glad Ian Dury wasn't included in your list. Thankfully, he didn't appear in Miami Vice either! =========== Don't forget the immortal acting talents of Glen Frey (of the Eagles), and Huey Lewis (sans the News). And don't forget Sir Meat of Loaf (that's Meatloaf to us Americans). On the gripping hand, there's what I refer to as 'amusing' rock-star cameos... Lemmy and Iggy Pop in 'Hardware' spring immediately to mind... If I didn't have this mind-numbing head cold, I could probably think of others... Cheers, Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:41:12 +0000 From: Ian Grant Subject: [idealcopy] Re: lists / Silo At 04:30 01/03/01 -0500, Chriswire wrote: >I agree with Giluz.By the way it's remarkable how much of the content he >lists is in my own collection.I would imagine most people reading would be >nodding agreement subconsciously to most of what our friend listens to. Woah! Steady! While Rick's lists are certainly the source of some welcome entertainment, that's mainly because he only occasionally lists a non-Wire related record that I wouldn't want to take a flamethrower to. It's fascinating how two people on one music-based list can have such different perspectives. I've spent the entirety of my adult life trying to cultivate the image of someone who would never, ever, *ever* own a Supertramp record. I refuse to abandon this position now! :) Re: Silo. Am I the only person who thinks that "Instar" is a much warmer, broader, more satisfying record than "Alloy"? Not that I'm implying that the latter is poor, merely that it strikes me as being slightly grey and joyless in comparison. Cheers, ig. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:35:25 +0100 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] RUNE LINDBLAD (1923-1991) message from David Cotner In 1953, Rune Lindblad composed his first work of musique concret "Party". With this work he wrote himself into music history as one of the first composers in the world to employ electronic music, taped music and sampling. His few percursors include Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre Henry and Karlheinz Stockhausen. Between 1953 and his death 1991, Lindblad composed over 200 sound works, mostly in his hometown of Gothenburg but also at the Electronic Music Studio EMS Stockholm. In the late 1990s, Pogus Productions of New York releases a couple of CDs of Lindblad's music, after which his work is being increasingly talked about. In Sweden he remains a relatively unknown figure. What is even less well known is that he was also a visual artist: painting in the 60s, graphic art and wood engraving in the 70s and collages in the 90s. Faergfabriken is pleased to present the music as well as some of the paintings, engravings and collages of this pioneer on the 10th anniversary of his death. The exhibition also includes records and other objects related to Lindblad's work. It has been curated by artist and composer CM von Hauswolff. To coincide with the exhibition Firework Editions have collaborated with Faergfabriken in producing an LP, a CD and a booklet as well as two compositions by Lindblad, the LP and CD include a series of tributes to Rune Lindblad by different musicians and composers. Parts of Lindblad's sound works have been used in new compositions. The contributors are: CD Kent Tankred - known also as a member of the Sons of God; Leif Elggren - praised for his retrospective at Faergfabriken last autumn; Edvard Graham Lewis - a member of Wire and Dome; B J Nilsen -aka Hazard - , C M von Hauswolff. LP: Jean Louis Huhta - well known musician featured in Ocsid among others and a name DJ Brommage Dub - J.L.Huhta and J Dahlbaeck as a duo. The booklet contains a recent text by Magnus Haglund a Gothenburg music critic , and a photograph of Rune Lindblad taken by Annika von Hauswolff in 1990. The exhibition will be open from Februari 10 until March 18, between noon and 6 pm Thursday to Sunday. An exhibition Italian artist Maurizio Cattalan will be going on at the same time in Faergfabriken's large hall. Faergfabriken Loevsholmbrinken 1 T- Liljeholmen Faergfabriken, STOCKHOLM tel. 468645 07 07 info@fargfabriken.se for information. (culled from CM von Hauswolff: thanks!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:58:42 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Crap Mute film fortunately never to be made ? but i'm a bit stuck on who could play colin and bruce. any suggestions? p I'll do a 'Bruce' if the money is right and easy money it'll be if they license the songs for this imaginary Miller film. I'll stand at the back of the stage with my back to the coke guzzling stadium crowd who'll all be busy ignoring me as they wait for Depeche Mode to come on. I'll try to remember the chords to the Elastica song and strum a bit. There would also be a neat symmetry in having a Bruce play a Graham and a Graeme play a Bruce... And Shaun Ryder can try to do a 'Colin' and will be paid in white powder for 24 hrs only. also I hope we can hire Yule Brinner as Moby Rowan Atkinson as Frank Tovey Jim Carrey as Boyd Rice Shakin' Stevens as Nick Cave Section 25 as Renegade Soundwave Dame Edna Everidge as Genesis P. Orridge Special guest walk-on for Mark E. Smith as 'man with chip' muttering 'Where's me cursor, where's me eraser?' who comes to repair Mr Miller's cracked machine after Mitzi Ebb (played by Henry Rollins) throws a hard body wobbly! Now, where's my fake mystic jog suit and smiley badge? Must've left 'em at Nemrt Dag! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:42:38 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] RUNE LINDBLAD (1923-1991) - a retrospective this came to my inbox today... it's not OT since EGLewis is mentioned... FEBRUARY 10 - MARCH 18 RUNE LINDBLAD (1923-1991) - a retrospective "In 1953, Rune Lindblad composed his first work of "musique concret" (concrete music?): "Party". With this work, he wrote himself into music history as one of the first composers in the world to employ electronic music, taped music and sampling. His few precursors include Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre Henry and Karlheinz Stockhausen. Between 1953 and his death in 1991, Lindblad composed over 200 sound works, mostly in his home town of Gothenburg but also at the Electronic Music Studio, EMS, in Stockholm. In the late 1990s, Pogus Productions of New York released a couple of CDs of Lindblad's music, after which his work is being increasingly talked about. In Sweden he remains a relatively unknown figure. What is even less well known is that he was also a visual artist: painting in the 60s, graphic art and wood engraving in the 70s, and collages in the 90s. Fdrgfabriken is pleased to present the music as well as some of the paintings, engravings and collages of this pioneer on the tenth anniversary of his death. The exhibition also includes records and other objects related to Lindblad's work. It has been curated by artist and composer CM von Hausswolff. To coincide with the exhibition, Firework Editions have collaborated with Fdrgfabriken in producing an LP, a CD and a booklet, as well as two compositions by Lindblad, the LP and CD include a series of tributes to Rune Lindblad by different musicians and composers. Parts of Lindblad's sound works have been used in new compositions. The contributors are: CD: Kent Tankred - known also as a member of The Sons of God; Leif Elggren - praised for his retrospective at Fdrgfabriken last autumn; Edvard Graham Lewis - a member of Wire and Dome; BJ Nilsen - aka Hazard, CM von Hausswolff. LP: Jean Louis Huhta - well-known musician featured in Ocsid among others, and a name DJ Brommage Dub - J-L Huhta and J Dahlbdck as a duo The booklet contains a recent text by Magnus Haglund, a Gothenburg music critic, and a photograph of Rune Lindblad taken by Annika von Hausswolff in 1990. The exhibition will be open from February 10 until March 18, between noon and 6 pm, Thursday to Sunday. An exhibition by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan will be going on at the same time in Fdrgfabriken's large hall." Fdrgfabriken Lvvholmsbrinken 1 T-Liljeholmen Fdrgfabriken, STOCKHOLM 468645 07 07 fon info@fargfabriken.se for information _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:27:36 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] acting musicians, was RE: OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL i'll give you these: kemps, sting, bowie, haven't seen phil collins act but i believe you :o) haven't seen adam ant act except in that episode of northern exposure, and i liked him in that. i think meatloaf was great in rocky horror. which brings us to tim curry who was also great in the few things i've seen him in. he also does a "smashing" job with voiceovers for the wild thornberrys (nickelodeon cartoon). and how about that chris isaak fellow? played a fine federal agent a couple times, but a little dry in little buddha. lastly, i like flea on the big screen. he should do more acting. more acting for henry rollins? probably not necessary. and prince...don't quit your day job. singing, songwriting, guitar playing and dancing is enough for one little guy :o) - -paul c.d. p.s. i think i liked john lydon in corrupt. haven't sen that in a loooong time. should see it again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:55:48 +0100 From: Woerner Frank Subject: AW: [idealcopy] acting musicians > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Eardrumbuz@aol.com [mailto:Eardrumbuz@aol.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Mdrz 2001 03:28 > An: idealcopy@smoe.org > Betreff: [idealcopy] acting musicians, was RE: OT 24HourPartyPeople - > FINAL > > > i'll give you these: > > kemps, sting, bowie, haven't seen phil collins act but i > believe you :o) I'll give you an additional one ... Divine in "Hairspray". They should have given him(her ?) an Oscar for this ... Frank ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #64 ******************************