From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #62 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, February 28 2001 Volume 04 : Number 062 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Japanese version of PF; more on (moron?) KC ["Paul Pietro] Re: [idealcopy] He Said - Could You [Mark Short ] [idealcopy] OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 ["Stephen JC Sheen" ] [idealcopy] Japanese version of PF; more on (moron?) KC [Wireviews Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Japanese version of PF; more on (moron?) KC > I'm curious about this item I saw recently on eBay. It claims 17 extra > tracks, some of which appear to be drawn from Peel sessions. There are also > a lot of demos for CM tracks. > Actually, if it's the official Japanese release, the extra tracks are from Behind The Curtain. Check (A)ndrew's website for details: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/ specifically: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/discography.html Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:28:14 +0000 From: Mark Short Subject: Re: [idealcopy] He Said - Could You MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > << >>I've been acquainting myself with He Said's Take Care, >> > > I have to say, the cover version of Leonard Cohen's Suzanne on that record > has to be the worst piece of music recorded by a member of Wire in any form. > Truly cringeworthy. > > Mark (waiting for loads of listers to pop up, saying it's their favourite > Wire solo work etc) I've always had a bit of downer on Leonard Cohen, so hearing his greatest hit get done over in Wire style always cheers me up. But I think the Graham's version was done more in a spirit of affection than of parody, which takes the edge off my enjoyment. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:41:21 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: [idealcopy] OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL Here's a link to the official site. They are currently looking for extras. http://www.partypeoplemovie.com/ Chris. The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:47:50 -0000 From: "Stephen JC Sheen" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 ... with regard to which, this Thursday's edition of the Mancunian Way (BBC Radio 2, 10pm GMT) will tell the Factory story. After the build-up on this list to the punk edition two weeks ago but the absence of any comment afterwards, perhaps no-one got round to listening to the programme. For the theorists, it did actually do a good job of confirming the unimportance of musical influences against the inspiration to getting on with doing your own thing. But never quite pulled off the trick of convincing us of the credit that the Manchester punk rock explosion deserves for directly inspiring Mick Hucknall and Mike Pickering to proceed to forming Simply Red and M People. But Mark E Smith was allowed to contribute his opinions from what sounded like the bottom of a pickle jar. And the main commentator chosen to set the scene for 1976 was at the time swotting for his O Levels in Birmingham and still dreaming of forming a Hendrix covers band. Diverting, if not essential. You will have missed the Hollies/Herman's Hermits story last week, but try it this week. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:17:55 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 I intentionally missed it last week because Dave Lee Travis was on the show. A case of cutting of my nose to spite my face! Chris. "Stephen JC Sheen" on 27/02/2001 10:47:50 To: idealcopy@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Chris Ray/IT/MEDAS) Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 ... with regard to which, this Thursday's edition of the Mancunian Way (BBC Radio 2, 10pm GMT) will tell the Factory story. After the build-up on this list to the punk edition two weeks ago but the absence of any comment afterwards, perhaps no-one got round to listening to the programme. For the theorists, it did actually do a good job of confirming the unimportance of musical influences against the inspiration to getting on with doing your own thing. But never quite pulled off the trick of convincing us of the credit that the Manchester punk rock explosion deserves for directly inspiring Mick Hucknall and Mike Pickering to proceed to forming Simply Red and M People. But Mark E Smith was allowed to contribute his opinions from what sounded like the bottom of a pickle jar. And the main commentator chosen to set the scene for 1976 was at the time swotting for his O Levels in Birmingham and still dreaming of forming a Hendrix covers band. Diverting, if not essential. You will have missed the Hollies/Herman's Hermits story last week, but try it this week. The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:36:38 -0000 From: "ian jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] (idealcopy) OT PartyPeoplePart2 it IS going to be a disaster isn't it? The taxi driver in Paul Morley's Guardian piece got it right straight off, Wilson is going to luv it. mind you, i wouldn't have minded going for the peter hook part (having done a few dodgy JD cover versions in the dim and distant past)!!! can't wait to see 'spider' as Devoto! ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:56:28 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 > to forming Simply Red and M People. But Mark E Smith was allowed to > contribute his opinions from what sounded like the bottom of a pickle jar. Didn't you know that Mark E Smith lives, eats and sleeps (and makes his music) at the bottom of a pickle jar? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:37:03 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Japanese version of PF; more on (moron?) KC " I'm curious about this item I saw recently on eBay. It claims 17 extra tracks, some of which appear to be drawn from Peel sessions. There are also a lot of demos for CM tracks. " The Japanese releases basically split the tracks from Behind the Curtain and placed them as 'extra' tracks on 154, Chairs Missing and Pink Flag. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:06:26 -0600 From: "dMc" Subject: Re:[idealcopy] Japanese version of PF The reissues are covered in depth at andrew's site: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:17:17 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] Rick's Picks! and a quick review! So yesterday was 12 1/2 hours of staring at a computer screen! Yuck!! Here's the music that helped me out!!! Bauhaus - Gotham Cake - Prolonging the Magic The Cramps - Stay Sick! Cure - Wish Delerium - Karma Robert Fripp - Exposure Gong - You Joy Division - Closer KMFDM - What do you know Deutschland? Kraftwerk - Electric Cafe Steve Lawson - ..and Nothing but the Bass Lords of Acid - Voodoo-U Love Spirals Downward - Ardor Midnight Oil - Red Sails in the Sunset Mission UK - Carved in Sand Colin Newman - It Seems Skinny Puppy - Fractal Zoom Sugar - F.U.E.L. U2 - Joshua Tree Tom Waits - Blue Valentine Wire - 154 XTC - English Settlement And as a side note, I just bought the "Manscape" single on Ebay and it arrived in the mail yesterday and really like "Gravity Workshop" and "Who has Nine?" alot! And one item of note is that the album version on the single is a little different than on the Manscape album that I have! I thought that was rather interesting! I'd never heard the 7" or 12" versions before, so this was a nice little treat! And off topic - I don't know how many Robyn Hitchcock fans are on the list, but my next concert coming up is the Soft Boys! Also, I noticed Echo & the Bunnymen were touring the UK. I was not aware they even existed anymore! Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:09:14 -0600 From: "Alyce Ornella" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rick's Picks! and a quick review! The Soft Boys are coming to Chicago on March 30 i haven't been as exited about an upcoming show since Wire played here last year! the benefits of living in a large city. alyce _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:38:09 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT PartyPeoplePart2 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, giluz wrote: > > to forming Simply Red and M People. But Mark E Smith was allowed to > > contribute his opinions from what sounded like the bottom of a pickle jar. > > Didn't you know that Mark E Smith lives, eats and sleeps (and makes his > music) at the bottom of a pickle jar? But I don't think it's full of pickles, despite its contents' pickling effects. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:42:01 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT 24HourPartyPeople - FINAL In a message dated 27/02/01 10:46:47 GMT Standard Time, Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk writes: > Here's a link to the official site. They are currently looking for extras. > > http://www.partypeoplemovie.com/ > > Chris. > > ////// oh dear ; i guess the next important project that needs sorting is > who will play wire in the forthcoming "life and times of daniel miller" > record that he is allegedly making as a vanity project with all the moby > proceeds. due to the money available i'm told you can almost take your pick > from the acting profession. maybe a rhythm section of bruce willis and > chevy chase might work? but i'm a bit stuck on who could play colin and > bruce. any suggestions? p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:49:15 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] manscape 12" about 2 years ago i tried to buy a 12" single of "life in the manscape" off gemm , and was told it was out of stock. anyway , out of the blue the dealer in question debited my credit card and sent me an e-mail to say it was coming. i was not over impressed with this but i thought i'd wait to see what arrived. anyway , today it came. it's a promo 12" in an american enigma bag with a sticker on the front in the "manscape" style. tracks are side 1 ; manscape (radio mix) , manscape (12" mix); side 2 ; stampede / children of groceries (album versions). lovely sound quality 33rpm pressing , the "radio mix" seems the same as the 7" mix on the cd single. really nice record , anyone else seen these around? p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #62 ******************************