From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #43 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, February 9 2001 Volume 04 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] off topic: area 39 ["giluz" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Best Bass/PIL on TOTP2 [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: The Mancunian Way [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re:worst singer ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: The Mancunian Way [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] [idealcopy] WMO interview [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] idle (non-ideal) curiosity ["dMc" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:worst singer [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [idealcopy] off topic: area 39 Anyone know anything about an electronics lineup called area 39? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:39:18 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Best Bass/PIL on TOTP2 In a message dated 07/02/01 11:56:59 GMT Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > Re PIL's T.O.T.P.2 appearance, i freaked when i realised it was Hugo Burnham > playing/miming drums but wasn't that John McGeogh on guitar in a dodgy > hat??? anyone??? > > ////// yeah that was him i think. but no surprise there , he was in pil for > years and played on (i think) the last 3 albums. sadly those albums are > pretty poor stuff and jm never seemed to kick much life into pil. and since > then he's basically vanished. > > whereas i never knew hugo b was at all involved with pil , maybe just in a > live line-up? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:42:40 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: The Mancunian Way In a message dated 07/02/01 14:14:32 GMT Standard Time, Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk writes: > Starting next Thursday: > BBC Radio 2 10pm-10:30pm (GMT) > Mark Radcliffe presents a 6-part series on the music of Manchester. > 1. The Punk Revolution of 1976 with Peter Hook (OUR HERO!!!), Bernard > Sumner, Mick Hucknell, Mark E Smith and Pete Shelly. > > ///// now of course the ultimate irony of the above is that this show is > going out on radio 2. so have the above guys become the new MOR? maybe > we're all getting old :-( p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 06:47:17 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re:worst singer >Mariah Carey definately gets by vote for having really all the goods and >making the worst possible use of them What I think is funny about her that if you look at her album covers with each subsequent album she has less and less clothes on. On the last one she's in open two-piece bikini. I guess Walmart will refuse to sell the next one :) Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:33 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re:worst singer > >Mariah Carey definately gets by vote for having really all the goods and > >making the worst possible use of them > What I think is funny about her that if you look at her album covers with > each subsequent album she has less and less clothes on. On the last one > she's in open two-piece bikini. Well, that's because the same guy that does her clothes probably does her music as well, so it figures. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:26:43 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: The Mancunian Way > Starting next Thursday: > BBC Radio 2 10pm-10:30pm (GMT) > Mark Radcliffe presents a 6-part series on the music of Manchester. > 1. The Punk Revolution of 1976 with Peter Hook (OUR HERO!!!), Bernard > Sumner, Mick Hucknell, Mark E Smith and Pete Shelly. > > ///// now of course the ultimate irony of the above is that this show is > going out on radio 2. so have the above guys become the new MOR? maybe > we're all getting old :-( p Radio 2 *occasionally* has interesting programmes. Such as above. Steve Wright still broadcasts on R2 so it is still the champ of MOR. Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] WMO interview An interview with WMO's Kevin Eden is to take place on Sunday and published on Wireviews (and also probably Cracked Machine). If you have any questions you'd like him to answer, send them to me at wireviews@yahoo.com ASAP! Cheers Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:40:41 -0600 From: "dMc" Subject: [idealcopy] idle (non-ideal) curiosity > sorry nik, but i think the person who replaced Dave Allen in Gof4 > was Sara Lee, who also played with Fripp's League of Gentlemen. as well as the ever-rockin' b52 - where IMO her talents were best applied :) anyone heard here solo album of last year? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:26:16 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Worst Bass Ian, << My all time bass heroes, Hook, Burnel, S.Hanley, Barry Adamson, and of course a certain G.Lewis. >> Add to that Simon Gallup, Michael Dempsey, Chris Hillman, Mike Mills. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:34:44 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:exploded views/Newman junior Howard. << http://www.stampalternativa.it/sconc.htm What a beautiful language. Shame I can't speak it, and can only understand by Spanish-led adducement. Does anyone on the list have enough Italian to drop them an email - i might try one in English later. >> They speak English. I bought my copy from them and they seemed like good people. Some other interesting titles too - they'll enclose a catalogue when you buy the book. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:15:25 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: The Mancunian Way Paul, << > ///// now of course the ultimate irony of the above is that this show is > going out on radio 2. so have the above guys become the new MOR? maybe > we're all getting old :-( p >> I just can't bring myself to tune in to radio 2. All I can hear is The BBC Midland Radio Orchestra covering Chicago's If you leave me now, Sing Something Simple with the Mike Sammes Singers and Cheerful Charlie Fucking Chester. I didn't fight in the Punk Rock Wars to end up listening to Radio 2!!!!!! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:14:25 +0000 From: Nik Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Best Bass/PIL on TOTP2 In message , ian jackson writes >nik wrote :- >Well spoken! Come to think of it - another former GoFer, Gail Ann >Dorsey, is very good, too. > >sorry nik, but i think the person who replaced Dave Allen in Gof4 >was Sara Lee, who also played with Fripp's League of Gentlemen. Thanks, Ian. I was incomplete, you filled the gaps;-). If I'm to last on this list (which I doubt, since I hereby admit to regularly celebrating Sylvester Day on March 11 and yet being quite besotted with the sounds of the Dugga quartet and some of their contemporaries), I'mna have to learn how to be chronologically correct and mention all the Dave Allen replacements (including - Anorak on - Busta Jones who, rumour has it, preceded Sara Lee) before expressing my admiration for a certain Ms Dorsey. No disrespeck, though, man. Next thing I know, you'll serve up a Sylvester-Wire connection I was completely unaware of :-) Thank heavens Minimal Compact only ever had one donkey-kicking bass player (waving of feather boa in direction of Malka the Magnificent, who, of course, should be included in the best bass list). nik P.S.: I wonder if any of the folks from the Wire animals thread are familiar with Philip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy, where people in this one parallel world have so-called 'daemons' in the form of animals representing an integral part of their soul. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:22:40 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin on www.totallyradio.com Giluz, << The choice of music was all provided by me and there are some new unreleased wire & newman tracks plus some old swim faves and some other things I like from outside of the immediate swim/ wire circle (including - junk boy/ wisdom of harry/ magnetophone...) >> Interesting that Colin namechecks Wisdom of Harry. A most unlikley source of some pretty original records. WoH is Pete Astor, formerly of The Loft/Weather Prophets, amiable but hardly cutting-edge 80s indie hopefuls. (I liked both bands, though the records wereusually let down by bad production). WoH combine lo-fi songs with samples/loops/noise etc. Basically it's just Pete and a percussionist/programmer. I'd recommend both the albums (Stars of Super 8 and House of Binary). Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:45:46 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Best Bass/PIL on TOTP2 Nik, << (including - Anorak on - Busta Jones who, rumour has it, preceded Sara Lee) >> Apparently so, as a session player for a tour (of the US?). Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:52:32 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin on www.totallyradio.com Anyone know how to record from streaming audio on to your hard disk? Is there a program that will do this? Mark << The choice of music was all provided by me and there are some new unreleased wire & newman tracks >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:22:54 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin on www.totallyradio.com on 8/2/01 21:52, MarkBursa@aol.com at MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Anyone know how to record from streaming audio on to your hard disk? Is there > a program that will do this? > There is one, but unfortunately I've got it work, and I won't be there till Sunday. I'll send it first thing on Sunday morning. It was recommended by someone from this list, though. I'm gonna just plug my mini-disc to the computer and tape it like that - it's not gonna be good quality even if you record it straight to hard-disk, so I don't really care about the soundcard noise. cheers, giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:13:29 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:worst singer On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Syarzhuk Kazachenka wrote: > >Mariah Carey definately gets by vote for having really all the goods and > >making the worst possible use of them > What I think is funny about her that if you look at her album covers with > each subsequent album she has less and less clothes on. On the last one > she's in open two-piece bikini. And this is a problem exactly why? ;) At least when looking at the album covers you're not forced to hear the music... - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::can you write underwater on liquid paper?:: __Zippy__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:44:20 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin on www.totallyradio.com In a message dated 08/02/01 20:28:20 GMT Standard Time, giluz@nettalk.com writes: > > > > > > on 8/2/01 21:52, MarkBursa@aol.com at MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone know how to record from streaming audio on to your hard disk? Is > there > > a program that will do this? > > > > There is one, but unfortunately I've got it work, and I won't be there till > Sunday. I'll send it first thing on Sunday morning. It was recommended by > someone from this list, though. > /////// as well as colin's radio show , the panasonic peel session and the pinkflag digital downloads are all in a streamed format. so i can see what mark means. i still lack a burner , but in the meantime it would be great to store this stuff for posterity. similarly , there's some good stuff on the "i am wired" site. so a copy of that program would be v.appreciated :-) p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:01:21 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] OT ; vic / gorkys / raincoats well i'm looking forward to the gig. i've got almost a complete vic collection but virtually nothing by the gorkys , anyone care to offer some comment on what's good , bad or indifferent by them? anyone fancy a tape swop? also , did anyone buy the raincoats "comeback" album? any use? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:20:40 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT ; vic / gorkys / raincoats >also , did anyone buy the raincoats "comeback" album? any use? p Do you mean Looking In The Shadows? Or, is there another comeback album? I have Looking In The Shadows. I like it, but since I'm not a real big fan of theirs, I can't really tell you how it compares to their "canonical" albums. Cheers, Paul *********************************************************** Brain: "Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" Pinky: "I think so Brain, but can the gummy worms really live in peace with the marshmallow chips?" Paul Pietromonaco Test Engineer - Reflection X WRQ, Inc. E-Mail: paulp@wrq.com *********************************************************** ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #43 ******************************