From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #27 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, January 27 2001 Volume 04 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] CD/Video ["Jerry" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) [Chris.] Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) [MarkBu] Re: [idealcopy] Re:lo-fi [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: [idealcopy] Re:lo-fi [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) [John ] [none] [John Roberts ] Re: [idealcopy] OT : Beefheart [John Roberts ] [idealcopy] Re: [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Sister Ray Records [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] [idealcopy] Fwd: [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] nervepath [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT - Hey! Look what I did! [Rick Hindman ] [idealcopy] stupid pastimes [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [idealcopy] CD/Video Did I imagine it or did someone say that the contents of that #30 video is available on CD? Can I get it from WMO before it self-destructs? j ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:09:14 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) Tim wrote: The only occasion this didn't have the desired effect was at a Wire gig funnily enough. It was at the Garage and some rather intense looking gentleman chucked his beer at Colin during the intro to 'Another the Letter'. I'd had a few drinks and I collared the guy as he passed me on the way to get another beer. He explained that he threw the missile because he didn't like the 2000 version of Wire's interprtation of 40 Versions! I gently suggested that he might wish to modify his behaviour or I would personally march him back into the streets of Highbury. However, minutes later he was back down the front staring manically at Colin, and I understand he attempted to gain access to the dressing room later on! Who was that then? It was me. Well, not quite. He was probably some city type who was trying to relive his punk days. Either that or some frenzied, spurned autograph hunter. Me again! Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 06:27:54 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) Tim, that must have been the demented looking balding tall bloke with crap glasses. He spent all of one song punching himself very hard on the neck. Complete c**t. You should have thrown the fucker out ;-) Wonder if he's on the list, and too embarrassed to reveal himself! Mark << The only occasion this didn't have the desired effect was at a Wire gig funnily enough. It was at the Garage and some rather intense looking gentleman chucked his beer at Colin during the intro to 'Another the Letter'. I'd had a few drinks and I collared the guy as he passed me on the way to get another beer. He explained that he threw the missile because he didn't like the 2000 version of Wire's interprtation of 40 Versions! I gently suggested that he might wish to modify his behaviour or I would personally march him back into the streets of Highbury. However, minutes later he was back down the front staring manically at Colin, and I understand he attempted to gain access to the dressing room later on! Who was that then? >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:14:32 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:lo-fi On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, squonk wrote: > will oldham might just be the jennifer lopez of alternative in that he looks fantastic in a short skirt? Huh? - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re:lo-fi Ray wrote a lot of agreeable comments about crap bands > > Are there any bands out there now that have the same > spirit of adventure and > experimentation that Wire has??? I must admit to being a bit partial to Pere Ubu. Their latest stuff is excellent and can perhaps be described as a synthesis of their avant garde and Phonogram era directions. Hugely undervalued imo. John Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Quiet gig etiquette breachers (was ASilverMtZ) Well it sounds like a description of me but I wasn't at the gig... John - --- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Tim, > > that must have been the demented looking balding > tall bloke with crap > glasses. He spent all of one song punching himself > very hard on the neck. > Complete c**t. You should have thrown the fucker out > ;-) Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:59:09 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: [none] First batch of events for the Rough Trade 25 years thang has been confirmed including the Vic Godard/Raincoats gig... From the http://www4.deo.com/uk/roughtrade/ website The first raft of Rough Trade 25th dates and line-ups have been confirmed. Check back for updates in Breaking News. Credit Card Hotline for all shows is: 020 7287 0932 Union Chapel Thursday 1/3/01: Mark Mulcahy, Mark Eitzel, Stuart Moxham, Darren (Hefner), Echoboy, Wisdom of Harry Friday 2/3/01: Monica Queen, Eileen Rose, Ana (Raincoats), Anjali Saturday 3/3/01: Vic Goddard/Nectarine no.9/Gareth Sager, The Raincoats, Butterflies of Love ICA Saturday 24/2/01: Jega, Team Dyobi and Freeform [Skam crew]; Gescom Djs (Main Room), and Warp Dj (Bar Area) 93 ft East Tuesday 27/2/01: Bis, The Pastels, Pram Wednesday 28/2/01: Soul Static Sound System - Tikiman Tarwater, Stephan Schneider, Darryl Thursday 1/3/01: Matmos, People Like Us, Life Without Buildings Tabernacle Sunday 25/2/01: Tiger Lillies, Tindersticks Dingwalls Wednesday 28/2/01: The Avalanches (first ever UK show!) Saturday 24/2/01: Shifty Disco Showcase - The Rock of Travolta, Nought, Morbius Cargo Monday 26/2/01 Live: Jeb Loy Nichols, Grand Drive Djs: Soul Jazz vs Pressure Sounds Tuesday 27/2/01 Live: January, Montgolfier Brothers, Headshoppe Djs : Poptones Dj Crew Friday 2/3/01 Live: The Bees, Shawn Lee Djs: WOS/We Love You Djs/ Black Lodge Dj/ Fread Deakin (Lemon Jelly) Dj Set Notting Hill Arts Club Saturday 24/2/01: RoTa club (afternoon) Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT : Beefheart This is going to have to stop Mark: agreeing on best Fall *and* Beefheart albums? Always thought TMR and Decals were a bit too difficult for sustained listening. Always thought Unconditionally Guaranteed and Bluejeans and Moonbeams were too easy. My fave used to be Clear Spot but as I've got older I'd have to say its Shiny Beast closely followed by Safe as Milk. Talking of intros for Wire lps, Safe as Milk does it for me. And what's wrong with having all the albums? John - --- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Ian, > > < Trout Mask, Clear Spot, Decals, Doc At The Radar > Station, > Safe As Milk, (insert your own choice here)... >> > > Probably Ice Cream for Crow.... > > I actually like the late period stuff best.TMR can > be hard going, but Safe as > Milk is as good a 60s psych-rock album as you'll > hear. > Good man, the Cap'n. > > Mark Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:17:16 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Beefheart >I responded on the Beefheart point more to see if >anyone else on the list was a fan than anything else. >Doesn't appear so tho does it? Must've missed that. I like a bit of the ol' Cap and have a few albums that get the odd play. "A tin teardrop". C ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:32:58 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: << First batch of events for the Rough Trade 25 years thang has been confirmed including the Vic Godard/Raincoats gig... From the http://www4.deo.com/uk/roughtrade/ website Credit Card Hotline for all shows is: 020 7287 0932 Union Chapel Saturday 3/3/01: Vic Goddard/Nectarine no.9/Gareth Sager, The Raincoats, Butterflies of Love //// i just rang that hotline and they told me "not confirmed , call back tuesday". i think this looks a great idea actually. wonder what a gareth sager set will be like ; hopefully not too many head numbers.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:30:11 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: [idealcopy] Sister Ray Records http://www.sisterray.co.uk have quite a few Cap'n Beefheart CDs for #6.99 Chris. The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:14:10 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: Return-Path: Received: from web25.aolmail.aol.com (web25.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.1]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:32:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:32:58 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: << First batch of events for the Rough Trade 25 years thang has been confirmed including the Vic Godard/Raincoats gig... From the http://www4.deo.com/uk/roughtrade/ website Credit Card Hotline for all shows is: 020 7287 0932 Union Chapel Saturday 3/3/01: Vic Goddard/Nectarine no.9/Gareth Sager, The Raincoats, Butterflies of Love //// i just rang that hotline and they told me "not confirmed , call back tuesday". i think this looks a great idea actually. wonder what a gareth sager set will be like ; hopefully not too many head numbers.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:24:47 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] nervepath well my copy came in the post today and i must say it looks really nice , a sort of foil gatefold with the 2 x 7" singles in it. but it's never been opened....... question is do you rip it up and spoil the lovely packaging or leave it perfect and get someone to tape it for you. hmmm , a dilemma.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:10:08 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: John, << Tuesday 27/2/01: Bis, The Pastels, Pram >> get your Hello Kitty anorak out for that one! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:11:59 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Hey! Look what I did! Greetings fellow ideal copyists! I wanted to forward the latest musical thing I've been messing with. It's about 1.1M, so it may be a problem, but I kind of like it. It is a 1 minute mp3 based on the loops from Garbage's website. I hope you like it! RJH Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:12:02 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: [idealcopy] stupid pastimes All this talk a while back about Robert G. as eagle or turtle, Gilbert as hare, etc. misses the real point - and the real point is to make the arbitrary assumption that the members of any four-person band must each be a particular Beatle. Okay, Robert Gotobed as Ringo is an easy call, and I'm going to argue for Colin as Paul (strongest interest in pop song, melody, etc. among Wire) - and Lewis seems to be John...but that leaves Bruce as George, and I'm not so sure that proves anything but how pointless this exercise is. Your call? - --Jeff, the Annoying Beatle J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Watson! Something's afoot...and it's on the end of my leg:: __Hemlock Stones__ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #27 ******************************