From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V4 #21 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, January 21 2001 Volume 04 : Number 021 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Annette Newman ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] Re: [idealcopy] Annette Newman [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #17 [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT - Free music editing software! [Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] Annette Newman More stupid trivia - who is/was Annette Newman (cover/photo credits on A-Z and Provisionally Entitled the Singing Fish)? Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:48:51 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] MEGO.NEWS (forwarded from Ramon Bauer @ Mego) - -// new releases: - -> IBM: MEGO 033/045__The Oval Recording: http://www.mego.at/mego033045.html LP + 7", 5 tracks IBM = Ilpo Vdisdnen, Bruce Gilbert & Mika Vainio. Ilpo and Mika are in the group Pan Sonic, who you all should know. Bruce plays in the group Wire, amongst other things, which is something you also should know. The Oval Recording is taken from sessions recorded at Mika's flat adjacent to the Oval Cricket Ground in south London, in 1998. - -> Ilpo Vdisdnen: MEGO 037_Asuma: http://www.mego.at/mego037.html CD, 8 tracks: Autioitu 1, Tukahduttaja, Klikki, Asumaton, Vallitseva, Arvioimaton Ongelma, Jaettu, Autioitu 2 Solo CD from Pan sonic member Ilpo Vdisdnen. ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:19:47 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Gang of Four In a message dated 19/01/01 12:21:06 GMT Standard Time, bamboo7431@hotmail.com writes: << >is this Andy Gill of Gang of Four? Speak of the devil. I know GoF is almost as highly regarded on this list as The Fall :) What's the best album to get that "acquired taste"? I have "Shrinkwrapped" - liked it but can't remember a single song now. Also have "Mall" - boring. Started sownloading some "Entertainment" tracks on Napster - so far my impression is that of a bad sounding Joy Division wannabe band. So what's the best album to start? Syarzhuk >> ////// to add my piece , the GO4 were fabulous in their early days ; i'm really surprised a wire fan would not see something there. entertainment/peel sessions are the 2 i'd recommend. they never kept the quality up after that. never heard "mall" but shrinkwrapped was surprisingly good. the writer andy gill was on the NME in punk days and is not the GO4 guy. mind you , andy "go4" gill did end up working with michael hutchence :-( p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:38:18 -0000 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Annette Newman >More stupid trivia - who is/was Annette Newman (cover/photo credits on A-Z >and Provisionally Entitled the Singing Fish)? His first wife (nee Green- she also did the photos for Pink Flag) Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They use the head and not the fist. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:33:44 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Annette Newman In a message dated 20/01/01 16:14:13 GMT Standard Time, bamboo7431@hotmail.com writes: << Subj: [idealcopy] Annette Newman Date: 20/01/01 16:14:13 GMT Standard Time From: bamboo7431@hotmail.com (Syarzhuk Kazachenka) Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org To: idealcopy@smoe.org More stupid trivia - who is/was Annette Newman (cover/photo credits on A-Z and Provisionally Entitled the Singing Fish)? Syarzhuk ////// i presume she must be colin's first wife? and i also suppose she is the same person as annette green who did the pink flag cover and wrote "different to me". or am i all wrong here? p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:37:03 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V4 #17 In a message dated 17/01/01 14:51:58 GMT Standard Time, P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk writes: << "GILBERT, BRUCE / RAUM" Radiator Plane Bang 7" Ltd 2.99 >> //// anyone heard this? any comments? p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:33:46 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Free music editing software! Hey all, I hope the new year is treating you well! I found an interesting tidbit I thought I'd pass on! If you visit garbage.com, in addition to the usual band info, photos and such, there is a link that allows you to download a free version of Acid! They also provide you with a zip file containing 10-12 loops that you can open up and play with. It is VERY cool and I was hoping to include a sample that I made up in less than 1/2 hour! Unfortunately, it is a 16.5M wave file! OUCH! I am going to try and make an MP3 out of it, but haven't figured how to do that yet....I will, though! Anyway, if you are like me (new and inexperienced at music editing) this is a very cool intro that will enable you to make some cool sounds right away! Talk to you later, RJH Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:31:08 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Edvard Beuyis Jeff2f said >>>>I hate to say this - but both Rose and I thought Lewis in Chicago last year had a certain Bruce Willis-ness to him... Nah, he's more like Joseph Beuys if you ask me... and Colin does bear a slight resemblance to the 7th Dr Who doesn't he? Robert reminds me of an eagle, and Bruce seems vaguely hare like art times. I swear Colin starts to look as if he's mutating into a duck on the ATP webcast of 'Drill' like some buddhist stunt... But which animal is Lewis? A bear? Lock up your hats in the zoo! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:43:33 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gang of four Andy, << how one could characterize gang of four's "entertainment" as the work of a "bad sounding Joy Division wannabe band" is beyond me >> Quite. Entertainment is the only place to start with the Go4. Solid Gold is good too, as are all the singles up to Dave Allen's departure. It's downhill from there. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:56:37 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Taking the 'Fall' John, Frighteningly, I nearly agree with you....a fall consensus? whatever next. I'd just swap Wonderful and Frightening for Perverted by Language (you have to have Garden and Tempo House, plus one of the greatest-ever B-sides, Wings) and Middle Class Revolt for Shift-work. And add The Unutterable at the end. Mark << Best Fall LPs are: Live at the Witch Trials (paranoid tales of excessive speed intake and psychic girlfriends), Dragnet (ditto: but recorded thru one mike stood next to the crash cymbal), Grotesque (anti-music biz rants and accentuated Northern perspectives), Slates (six tracks veering more into a garde territory: tempo changes and kazoos), Totale's Turns (crucial as a document of its time: live in working men's clubs (let's see how to explain WMCs to non-UK): 'Last orders half past ten'), The Early Years compilation (for the otherwise unavailable b-sides Psycho Mafia, In My Area, 2nd Dark Age and the unbeatable original versions of Fiery Jack, Bingo Masters Breakout and Rowche Rumble), Hex Enduction Hour (the Fall at their peak imo), Wonderful and Frightening World of... (big label debut with proper production and tight tunes (even if they do rip off the Stooges)), This Nation's Saving Grace (in the same vein but more nods towards Can), Extricate (the first post Brix LP with Bramah back in and the Fall beginning to enjoy working in the studio), Infotainment Scan (post Bramah and more studio friendly: signs that MES's writing is getting back to form: 'I'm on mobile: is your house for sale?', 'If I ever end up like Ian McShane...'), Middle Class Revolt (ditto and welcome return to form for MES's lyric writing. Plus it has City Dweller). That's all you need to know about the Fall to begin with. (I'll get back in my bunker.) 8-) >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:04:21 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Commercial Suicide Craig, << and a Wire/CN discography (that stops at _Document and Eyewitness_). Was this normal, or some weird issue of it? Probably a dumb question, I know ;) >> Probably because it was the most recent Wire release at that time. Commercial Suicide is roughly contemporary with Snakedrill/Ideal Copy. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:44:28 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Annette Newman Paul, << ///// i presume she must be colin's first wife? and i also suppose she is the same person as annette green who did the pink flag cover and wrote "different to me". or am i all wrong here? p >> That's her. She also co-wrote 'You and your dog' on CN1. mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V4 #21 ******************************