From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #372 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, December 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 372 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses [Howard Spencer ] [idealcopy] talismanic ["dMc" ] Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream [Joh] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses ["Stephen Jackson" ] [idealcopy] "On Returning to Map Ref G7: Zooming in on the Germ Ship" [=?] [idealcopy] RG [Wireviews ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses ["Stephen Jackson" ] [idealcopy] Wireviews submissions [Wireviews ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:28:01 +0000 From: Howard Spencer Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses "I don't think they will, simply because they live in three different countries!" I'm curious - England, Sweden and ...? Howard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:57:12 -0600 From: "dMc" Subject: [idealcopy] talismanic a high point for wire mark iii for me tho 2 people in a room - you *were* at metro last time, right? the piece gained some stature in my estimation that evening fairly knocked me through the back wall > Hmmm...I never would have thought of "Advantage in Height" as "talismanic": not a bad song, but hardly central to my impression of Wire, even Wire Mk. II. Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:48:55 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream Quite how > much attention they pay to the current music scene > is unclear, but against a > backdrop of "bed-wetting" music the decison to play > VERY hard is a sound one. Quite. > Ambitious, like Ahead, is somewhat of its time. Part > of Wire's "New Order" > period. Nothing worng with that, but again, not in > line with the Y2K model. Hmmm. I always thought Ahead was in the same kind of league as In Vivo with Ambitious more in line with Over Theirs, Finest Drops etc. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:17:38 -0000 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses >"I don't think they will, simply because they live in three different >countries!" > >I'm curious - England, Sweden and ...? England!.... ('they' presumably meaning GL, BG and CN) Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They use the head and not the fist. - -----Original Message----- From: Howard Spencer To: idealcopy@smoe.org ; MarkBursa@aol.com Date: 13 December 2000 10:34 Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses > >Howard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:29:06 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] "On Returning to Map Ref G7: Zooming in on the Germ Ship" 8.12 1945 Met up with Mark Bursa and Paul Rabjohn in the bar of the very posh Balmoral Hotel where Mark was staying. These guys are both bigger than me and seem to like a drink... all evening I kept turning round to find another beer! Thanks! We taxied back to the Queens Hall and minutes later Uri Baran arrived, straight off the plane and still in his suit. Four Ideal Copy members were present, level and ready to spin, which gave the E-mail list a certain symmetry with Wire. The support band Life Without Buildings seemed a bit lightweight, sounding like Altered Images with a splash of Talking Heads. Maybe it's the name that made me think of the latter, and small cute singer skipping about like a birthday Grogan that made me think of the former. Lets face it, we were soon in the bar gassing about Wire! Back in the main hall the lighting shifted and there was a palpable thickening of the atmosphere as Wire prepared to take the stage. Bruce and Robert seemed to quietly materialise at their gadget posts and the hum and pulse began. Centre stage, Colin coaxed drones from his guitar by resonating the strings with an e-bow. It took a while for some to realise that the gig had begun, but when Graham strode on halfway through the dronestrumental there was a round of applause and the fourth letter zoomed into place. The sequence locked perfectly and the Wirengine was picking up speed slowly but surely. The set list had it as 'Zoom'. Om! Om! Om! Zo zo zo zooom om om om zzzzoom. WMIORZEO. ZROIOEMW. Four letters: two identical circular vowels, a harsh jagged consonant and a soft immersive one. The low key opening meant that the photographers, girls and men in wheelchairs could join me for a gentle sway at the front. Sadly there was no sign of Jimmy the illuminated goose. What has become of him? The rearranged 'Heartbeat' pumped itself free of the 'Zoom' and although it didn't connect with me as emotively as on Garage Sunday, I was still very glad to hear it again. It's just so much better than the original they really have to release it at some point. Colin must've remembered how to play 'Ally in Exile' after its descendent 'Art of Persistence' was deemed too light for there it was doubling and trebling the locks on its doors once more. If anything its the perfect showcase for Bruce's minimal but devestatingly effective open tuned apocalypse guitar which makes nough noise for four lesser instruments. Never have so few chords done so much - until the most rockin' 'Pink Flag' ever closed the main set. Anyway it seems almost superfluous to say that it was a lot tighter and well drilled than the version on 'Document & Eyewitness'. Everything Wire play live now seems to make a mockery of the original versions! Colin and especially Bruce seem a lot more relaxed and comfortable on stage than they did at the Royal Festival Hall. Colin had an almost lackadaisical air about him, like he was transported somewhere in a dream of his own. Bruce didn't turn his back on the audience like he did at the Garage, and seemed to be enjoying himself more. He almost broke into a jig during 'Pink Flag'! And whilst at the Garage he seemed to be locked into concentration trying to remember how to play the chords, here it seemed a lot less trouble. Robert and Graham are both incredibly intense performers in their own way and both make very visceral, muscular rhythms seem quite effortless. Graham sometimes looks at his powerful bass like some long lost love, whilst Robert shoots his cymbals looks of such eagle eyed intent they could almost crack from it! More amusingly when he does peer out at the audience, he looks like he's wondering why the hell they're there. The set was an almost perfect study in acceleration - except for 'Lowdwon' which dipped the pace a little after a joyfully fiery 'Advantage in Height', every track seemed to rock harder than its predecessor. '12XU' and 'Pink Flag' were definitely the best versions I've heard and whilst the encore 'Drill' didn't quite ascend to the heights it did with Susan Stenger's help on Garage Saturday, it was still suitably intense, with Colin's 'Could this be a?' holler ending the rewired performance, leaving us memories of perfect sound forever. The new song 'Germ Ship' was a bit of a surprise! It really rocked hard compared to the other new material that's emerged since February. 'Art o'P', 'He Knows', 'Zoom' and the new 'Heartbeat', which is taking on a life of its own, are all slow to mid-paced and fairly reflective. 'Germ Ship' was like a bastard son of the 'Pink Flag' album, returned after travelling the world with a bag full of blacked out CD's, alarms in glass, marzipan sheds, techno beats and organic parsnips. It opened with an instrumental section which was like a venomous axe through 'The Commercial' then Colin and Graham stepped purposefully up to the mikes as one and sang words of fatal attraction before the ship circled out with an outro much as the intro. It was all over in about two minutes flat. The fully formed 'He Knows' and 'Boiling Boy' were still playing the beauty card even if Bruce has roughed up his hat thief a little. My atoms were excited enough to keep me moving for the whole gig, and the rest of the crowd seemed to catch up by 'Advantage in Height', which marked a turning point: downhill all the way, ein bier, ein whiskey! Once again Wire were in appearance unique and in action of course they delivered. If only there was even just one other British rock band even half this magnificent! Yeah, The Fall still make good records, but the last three gigs I've seen them do have been very dull. Afterwards Colin spoke to us with his voice. He said they were bored with 'Mercy' and told me to keep practising my dancing. That cheeking tongue always seems to have the last word. A visual eyewitness Edinburgh document to follow (via Swim or Wireviews) Keep on Lockin' Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] RG " RG's not against technology - he's against drum machines. I doubt if he'd have a problem if Colin, Graham and Bruce all decided to play keyboards - - so long as whatever song they played had real drums. " My understanding of it is that RG isn't against tech per se, but *is* against it diluting his role to such an extent that it becomes superfluous to requirements. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:16:17 -0000 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Wire addresses >>"I don't think they will, simply because they live in three different >>countries!" >> >>I'm curious - England, Sweden and ...? > >England!.... > >('they' presumably meaning GL, BG and CN) Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Next time I shall try and engage my brain..I'm tired ok? As far as I know Colin Newman is based in Belgium, Lewis in Sweden, Gotobed and Gilbert in England. Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They use the head, but not today. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:20:24 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Wireviews submissions Hi all If anyone has any images of Wire's recent gig, then please could they let me know? I have Graeme's review (thanks, BTW!), which will be on the site next month, but if anyone else wants to submit some prose, then feel free. The next update will be before January 8, 2001. Also, as an aside, due to massive workloads and commitments in my 'real job' and also with Snub Comms/Veer, I no longer have time to effectively prune the IC of useful info. (This may change in the future, but this is unlikely before Feb 2001), so if you do want to submit something, please do so directly. If you send something to IC that you also want to submit, then just CC wireviews@yahoo.com so that the email ends up separate from the digests in my inbox! Cheers Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #372 *******************************